****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (11 Viewers)

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team PPR 1QB 

Team A gets 1.6/Donovan Peoples-Jones

Team B gets 1.8/D.J. Chark

I like the 1.08/chark side. 

It might not be this year, but the talent is there for Chark. 

I’m not sure what DPJ brings to the table but moving down 2 spots to upgrade to Chark is the right move here, IMO. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I guess I’m in the minority here given the tone of the past few posts on this page but I’m buying Akers for a 2nd all day. The arguments have all been hashed out. I’m on the side of we just haven’t seen enough Achilles tears to young, talented backs to really know if it’s a death knell. I’ll take the gamble at that price that it isn’t here.

I’m probably buying for a 2nd too. 

Except I offered it to the Akers owner and they said they were gonna wait I see.

So while I’m buying for a 2nd, they’re not selling for a 2nd, making this kinda moot for me, but I agree with you.

I would not pay a 1st for him. But it’s worth the gamble. He could make a comeback.

What I see as a possible issue down the road is he gets Wally Pipp’d. Say Henderson takes the reins & never looks back. Or if they bring in a veteran back. Or draft one in 2023 where there are likely to be some good options. 

There is a scenario where Akers simply loses his job, even if he recovers.  

Adds some risk to this. 

 

[Cobbler1]

I’m probably buying for a 2nd too. 

Except I offered it to the Akers owner and they said they were gonna wait I see.

So while I’m buying for a 2nd, they’re not selling for a 2nd, making this kinda moot for me, but I agree with you.

I would not pay a 1st for him. But it’s worth the gamble. He could make a comeback.

What I see as a possible issue down the road is he gets Wally Pipp’d. Say Henderson takes the reins & never looks back. Or if they bring in a veteran back. Or draft one in 2023 where there are likely to be some good options. 

There is a scenario where Akers simply loses his job, even if he recovers.  

Adds some risk to this. 

I don’t think there’s much out there in the veteran back department that would threaten a recovered Akers in 2022. And if Henderson blows up they’d likely split next year and then I don’t know if they’d be able to pay Henderson starting back $$$ after that while Akers is there recovered. To me, a recovered Akers is a top 20 back at minimum for a few years with a ceiling to be much higher. Can he recover, who knows. But as of now I’m valuing him around a late 1. 

 

[Cobbler1]

16 team por.

Give: Carr, Boyd, 2.01, James White

Get: Antonio Gibson, Chris Conley, Kerryon.

Love this. This guy’s qbs were Dalton and Trubisky so I tossed out Carr and a couple other decent pieces for Gibson. Qbs are hard to come by in a 16 teamer but I’d rather play all year with Ryan Leaf at Qb than part with Gibson.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

16 team por.

Give: Carr, Boyd, 2.01, James White

Get: Antonio Gibson, Chris Conley, Kerryon.

Love this. This guy’s qbs were Dalton and Trubisky so I tossed out Carr and a couple other decent pieces for Gibson. Qbs are hard to come by in a 16 teamer but I’d rather play all year with Ryan Leaf at Qb than part with Gibson.

Solid deal for you. 

 

[JoeSteeler]

16 team por.

Give: Carr, Boyd, 2.01, James White

Get: Antonio Gibson, Chris Conley, Kerryon.

Love this. This guy’s qbs were Dalton and Trubisky so I tossed out Carr and a couple other decent pieces for Gibson. Qbs are hard to come by in a 16 teamer but I’d rather play all year with Ryan Leaf at Qb than part with Gibson.

Stole Gibson

 

[ghostguy123]

I guess I’m in the minority here given the tone of the past few posts on this page but I’m buying Akers for a 2nd all day. The arguments have all been hashed out. I’m on the side of we just haven’t seen enough Achilles tears to young, talented backs to really know if it’s a death knell. I’ll take the gamble at that price that it isn’t here.

Depending on format, roster spots..........anyone out there trading for Akers to hold for the year and move in the offseason?

I am doing this, and if I cant get what I think is good value considering what I gave up and the use of an IR spot, I will just ride it out and see if he rebounds.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Depending on format, roster spots..........anyone out there trading for Akers to hold for the year and move in the offseason?

I am doing this, and if I cant get what I think is good value considering what I gave up and the use of an IR spot, I will just ride it out and see if he rebounds.  

I mean. If you can get him for a future 2nd, and have an IR spot, it’s probably worth the gamble.

Worst case scenario, you threw away a 2ns round pick. Something everyone here has probably done on a bust player before, so…maybe close to even odds that you blow it on Akers as you would have on that 2nd rounder.

That said, 2nd round picks can also be used in trades to get RBs who haven’t torn their Achilles.

lots of ways to look at it. But if he comes back from this, that’s a decent return on your investment. 

 

[ghostguy123]

I mean. If you can get him for a future 2nd, and have an IR spot, it’s probably worth the gamble.

Worst case scenario, you threw away a 2ns round pick. Something everyone here has probably done on a bust player before, so…maybe close to even odds that you blow it on Akers as you would have on that 2nd rounder.

That said, 2nd round picks can also be used in trades to get RBs who haven’t torn their Achilles.

lots of ways to look at it. But if he comes back from this, that’s a decent return on your investment. 

The question is, what is Akers market value a year from now if he is no longer limited and appears on track to start the year healthy?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The question is, what is Akers market value a year from now if he is no longer limited and appears on track to start the year healthy?

Hard to say. If Henderson takes hold of the gig & tears up the league, probably not great.

if Henderson misses time to injuries & is just ok, probably much better. 

All assuming he comes back something resembling 100%, of course. 

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

FFPC, not involved

Gave Harris, Najee

Got Barkley, Saquon

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC, not involved

Gave Harris, Najee

Got Barkley, Saquon

Stole Barkley. 

That dude should have a guilty conscience. I like Harris, but that’s a serious buy low. 

 

[IHEARTFF]

Stole Barkley. 

That dude should have a guilty conscience. I like Harris, but that’s a serious buy low. 

Ha. Guy offered it to me out of nowhere. I'm nervous he knows something I don't know, but I still had to click accept.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Ha. Guy offered it to me out of nowhere. I'm nervous he knows something I don't know, but I still had to click accept.

Probably skittish about the reports he’s gonna start limited & ramp up. 

But that’s like literally every player who’s ever recovered from anything. 

IMO Barkley has a legit shot at being the #1 overall fantasy player from week 3 ~~>

You shouldn’t be able to sleep tonight. Shame on you.  

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Very leery about Saquons inj, but I'm on the Saquon side here.

 

[King of the Jungle]

FFPC, not involved

Gave Harris, Najee

Got Barkley, Saquon

I understand both sides of the argument. It is close but give me Najee.

 

[barackdhouse]

I guess I’m in the minority here given the tone of the past few posts on this page but I’m buying Akers for a 2nd all day. The arguments have all been hashed out. I’m on the side of we just haven’t seen enough Achilles tears to young, talented backs to really know if it’s a death knell. I’ll take the gamble at that price that it isn’t here.

My thing is that even if Akers does recover to a level that is clearly capable of being a starter, it may be too late because although the Rams will give him every opportunity to succeed in his rehab, and although they're going to say the right things about it, they know the same information we all do about the relative lack of success in coming back from achilles tears. 

They're going to go with Henderson and/or other vets and 2022 rookies/FAs. They are crazy not to. Akers will get a chance again but he will not only be climbing the injury recovery hill, he will also be competing with others above him on the depth chart. 

I am out on him but truly hope I'm wrong. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Very leery about Saquons inj, but I'm on the Saquon side here.

These days it’s far more rare for a player to not come back from knee surgery than not. The only players I can recall in recent memory who didn’t come back 100% were older guys.

Barkley is such a special player & NYG seems like they could be an offense on the rise. I’d be pretty psyched to be on that side of the deal. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They're going to go with Henderson and/or other vets and 2022 rookies/FAs. They are crazy not to. Akers will get a chance again but he will not only be climbing the injury recovery hill, he will also be competing with others above him on the depth chart. 
 

yeah, that’s about where I’m at on him. 

But there’s a price where I’d pay it to take the chance. Just not one that Akers owners would likely be happy with. 

 

[Cobbler1]

My thing is that even if Akers does recover to a level that is clearly capable of being a starter, it may be too late because although the Rams will give him every opportunity to succeed in his rehab, and although they're going to say the right things about it, they know the same information we all do about the relative lack of success in coming back from achilles tears. 

They're going to go with Henderson and/or other vets and 2022 rookies/FAs. They are crazy not to. Akers will get a chance again but he will not only be climbing the injury recovery hill, he will also be competing with others above him on the depth chart. 

I am out on him but truly hope I'm wrong. 

There aren’t any vets out there right now that would matter long term to a healthy Akers. I doubt they’d throw multiple year starter money at any vet next offseason either unless it’s clear Henderson isn’t any good and Akers isn’t recovering. I really don’t see anyone but Henderson having a shot at being above him on the depth chart come May of 2022. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I guess I’m in the minority here given the tone of the past few posts on this page but I’m buying Akers for a 2nd all day. The arguments have all been hashed out. I’m on the side of we just haven’t seen enough Achilles tears to young, talented backs to really know if it’s a death knell. I’ll take the gamble at that price that it isn’t here.

That’s a fair way to look at it - let’s not pretend all second round picks pan out anyway.

 

[Helaire-ious]

I mean. If you can get him for a future 2nd, and have an IR spot, it’s probably worth the gamble.

Worst case scenario, you threw away a 2ns round pick. Something everyone here has probably done on a bust player before, so…maybe close to even odds that you blow it on Akers as you would have on that 2nd rounder.

That said, 2nd round picks can also be used in trades to get RBs who haven’t torn their Achilles.

lots of ways to look at it. But if he comes back from this, that’s a decent return on your investment. 

I tried to get him for a 3rd & was told a 2nd might do it, but even then he'd likely rather hold. My 2022 2nd will likely be late, but I still declined to offer it to him. Maybe I'm nuts.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I tried to get him for a 3rd & was told a 2nd might do it, but even then he'd likely rather hold. My 2022 2nd will likely be late, but I still declined to offer it to him. Maybe I'm nuts.

Yeah, it’s definitely a tweener situation.

unless you’re confident that Akers will come back 100% AND get his job back it’s not worth offering more than that.

and unless the Akers owner just wants to cut bait, confident that Akers won’t come back 100% or get his job back, then at some point the offer’s low enough that it’s worth the risk to wait & see.

The best chance to get him low seems to be making him part of a larger deal, or working out a Henderson/Akers package if you’re the Akers owner and have Henderson (as in the deal above). 

Tricky situation. 

 

[ghostguy123]

Hard to say. If Henderson takes hold of the gig & tears up the league, probably not great.

if Henderson misses time to injuries & is just ok, probably much better. 

All assuming he comes back something resembling 100%, of course. 

Well, that's why I said a year from NOW.  We wont know how healthy and strong he really is until he plays in games.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Well, that's why I said a year from NOW.  We wont know how healthy and strong he really is until he plays in games.

Of course. And as I, and others have said, there’s no guarantee he’ll have a full time feature back roll if he comes back. 

There’s a lot of risk on both sides, so anything like a 2nd is probably fair. 

 

[JohnnyU]

yeah, that’s about where I’m at on him. 

But there’s a price where I’d pay it to take the chance. Just not one that Akers owners would likely be happy with. 

Akers owners are upset enough right now that they would probably consider most offers insulting, not really grasping the reality of the situation.  I don’t want to be that guy messing with an Akers owner’s fragile mentality right now.  A smart Akers owner wouldn’t take a 2nd rd pick this early after the injury.  

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Akers owners are upset enough right now that they would probably consider most offers insulting, not really grasping the reality of the situation.  I don’t want to be that guy messing with an Akers owner’s fragile mentality right now.  A smart Akers owner wouldn’t take a 2nd rd pick this early after the injury.  

Yep - I said exactly that above. I hate to be a vulture. 

if one approached me for a RB & offered a pick + Akers or something I’d entertain it, but I don’t wanna be adding insult to injury or salting the wound. 

 

[Tau837]

12 team PPR Superflex

Team A gave Akers, Cam LAR RB
Team B gave Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick

This league just did a startup draft that completed a few weeks ago. I had Team B pegged as likely to finish in the bottom 2-4 teams in the league, so that pick seems likely to end up top 4.

That's a great value for Team A IMO. Team B offered me the same deal, and I responded that it wasn't even a consideration for me, even though I expect to finish in the top few teams in the league this season, meaning my pick would have been at/near the end of the first.

 

[Tau837]

Hard to say. If Henderson takes hold of the gig & tears up the league, probably not great.

if Henderson misses time to injuries & is just ok, probably much better. 

All assuming he comes back something resembling 100%, of course. 

A year from now, we won't know if he is going to come back at "something resembling 100%". In fact, we will be months from truly knowing. We wouldn't know until he has played in some number of real NFL games, which means well into the 2022 season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

A year from now, we won't know if he is going to come back at "something resembling 100%". In fact, we will be months from truly knowing. We wouldn't know until he has played in some number of real NFL games, which means well into the 2022 season.

Don’t disagree. But we’ll know if he’s medically cleared and practicing. 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

Sam Darnold

for

Henry Ruggs

6.2 (Simi Fehoko)

 

[Boston]

12 team PPR Superflex

Team A gave Akers, Cam LAR RB
Team B gave Year 2022 Round 1 Draft Pick

This league just did a startup draft that completed a few weeks ago. I had Team B pegged as likely to finish in the bottom 2-4 teams in the league, so that pick seems likely to end up top 4.

That's a great value for Team A IMO. Team B offered me the same deal, and I responded that it wasn't even a consideration for me, even though I expect to finish in the top few teams in the league this season, meaning my pick would have been at/near the end of the first.

Definitely a #1...you not only get out of having to deal with Akers and his achilles but you are getting back a very legit asset...this is a real bad use of a first round pick, way too much room for error to give away that pick.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

James Robinson

for

1.9 (Rondale Moore)

3.6 (Kellen Mond)

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

1.4 (Javonte Williams

Tevin Coleman

for

Josh Jacobs

2023 1st (most likely top half of the round)

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

Michael Thomas

for

Michael Gallup (Cowboys fan)

2022 2nd

2023 2nd

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

Sam Darnold

for

Henry Ruggs

6.2 (Simi Fehoko)

Good buy-low on Ruggs. 

Maybe. lol

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

James Robinson

for

1.9 (Rondale Moore)

3.6 (Kellen Mond)

Tough one. I’m of the belief that Robinson still has a viable role. His ceiling is severely capped, but he’s likely flex-worthy. 

Moore is probably behind Hopkins, Green, Kirk for at least this year. Next year who knows. 

hmm…gimme the Robinson side.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

1.4 (Javonte Williams

Tevin Coleman

for

Josh Jacobs

2023 1st (most likely top half of the round)

It’s a fair deal. Not sure which side imd want. Coleman doesn’t really change the eval for me. 

I’d probably take Jacobs and the ‘23 1st. 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Good buy-low on Ruggs. 

Maybe. lol

Darnold was my QB4 (I hate holding that many) but this league is crazy with QBs so I held them.  I felt it was worth the dart throw that he can turn it around.  I don't feel great about him though.  Lol.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Tough one. I’m of the belief that Robinson still has a viable role. His ceiling is severely capped, but he’s likely flex-worthy. 

Moore is probably behind Hopkins, Green, Kirk for at least this year. Next year who knows. 

hmm…gimme the Robinson side.

I agree.  I am on the J-Rob side but get the argument.  This guy is a huge Moore believer and plans on leaving him on Taxi all year.  He has some decent RBs in CMC, Carson, and Hunt too but not sure I make that trade.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Had our rookie draft this weekend (I know late) and had some moves.  12 team, .5 PPR, and 1 QB.

Michael Thomas

for

Michael Gallup (Cowboys fan)

2022 2nd

2023 2nd

Gallup side. If Cooper is gone after this year, and they find a way to lock up Gallup, he’s gonna deliver solid value. 

Thomas is probably a paperweight this year & I don’t have a ton of confidence in Hill / Winston to know what that offense will be like down the road. 
 

Gallup is 25, Thomas 28?  Yeah. 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

It’s a fair deal. Not sure which side imd want. Coleman doesn’t really change the eval for me. 

I’d probably take Jacobs and the ‘23 1st. 

I feel like Jacobs and the 1st by a decent amount for me.  I really like Williams but feel like this has the stink of rookie bias due to this time of year.  Could end up being way in Williams favor in the near future but seems like an overpay to me and I agree that Coleman means nothing to me.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Gallup side. If Cooper is gone after this year, and they find a way to lock up Gallup, he’s gonna deliver solid value. 

Thomas is probably a paperweight this year & I don’t have a ton of confidence in Hill / Winston to know what that offense will be like down the road. 
 

Gallup is 25, Thomas 28?  Yeah. 

I believe you are right on those ages yes.  I just felt like one of those 2nds should have been a 1st personally but Thomas could have another year of nothingness.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I believe you are right on those ages yes.  I just felt like one of those 2nds should have been a 1st personally but Thomas could have another year of nothingness.

I think 2021 could be something of a lost season for Thomas. If it’s worst case scenario he’s back in October/November?

And it’s not all on Thomas. What if the Saints are a .500 team or worse with Hill/Winston not really working out? Does he rush back or take his time to really rehab after already having 1 setback? 

Also there’s risk of re-injury after he comes back. 1/2 his games are on turf, too. 

Ok, now you’ve got a 29 y/o Thomas returning “healthy” in 2022 with a Saints offense that’s kind of a mystery. 

2 seconds + Gallup seems fair given the injury/age. A healthy Thomas should get a 1st even at 28, sure, but his injury situation changes everything, IMO. 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

I think 2021 could be something of a lost season for Thomas. If it’s worst case scenario he’s back in October/November?

And it’s not all on Thomas. What if the Saints are a .500 team or worse with Hill/Winston not really working out? Does he rush back or take his time to really rehab after already having 1 setback? 

Also there’s risk of re-injury after he comes back. 1/2 his games are on turf, too. 

Ok, now you’ve got a 29 y/o Thomas returning “healthy” in 2022 with a Saints offense that’s kind of a mystery. 

2 seconds + Gallup seems fair given the injury/age. A healthy Thomas should get a 1st even at 28, sure, but his injury situation changes everything, IMO. 

I guess I don't value 2nds extremely high personally because of the high bust potential and Gallup is unknown too.  No guarantees he is ever more than he is.  I do think he gets a shot next year somewhere to be a top 2 WR on a team though.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I guess I don't value 2nds extremely high personally because of the high bust potential and Gallup is unknown too.  No guarantees he is ever more than he is.  I do think he gets a shot next year somewhere to be a top 2 WR on a team though.

I think it’ll be Dallas if they let Cooper walk. They could sign Gallup for far less as the WR2 with Lamb ascending to WR1. 

If I were involved in this trade I’d see it as a safer bet than an aging, hurt Thomas delivering WR1 numbers for my team.

So it’s a perspective thing. 

 

[eric rymer]

16 team IDP keeper. partial PPR Keep 6 Off 8 Def

4.01 and Sony Michel

get

Myles Gaskin and 9.15

He wasn't protecting Gaskin and I needed to shore up the position pre-draft

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

16 team IDP keeper. partial PPR Keep 6 Off 8 Def

4.01 and Sony Michel

get

Myles Gaskin and 9.15

He wasn't protecting Gaskin and I needed to shore up the position pre-draft

Gaskin side & well done. 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

16 team IDP keeper. partial PPR Keep 6 Off 8 Def

4.01 and Sony Michel

get

Myles Gaskin and 9.15

He wasn't protecting Gaskin and I needed to shore up the position pre-draft

I don't play IDP but I'd go Gaskin for sure.  Especially if you had a need.

 

[Todem]

I won the title last season in this league. Got an offer and pressed accept in about 1 minute of pondering. Win again mode.

I traded:

Cam Akers

Tee Higgins

KJ Hamler

2022 1st round rookie pick

Got back:

Chris Carson

Odell Beckham

JuJu Smith Shuster

Damien Williams (I own David Montgomery so why not take a flier on a potential handcuff)