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Hot Sauce Guy
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sorry, voice to text sucks
as it is super flex, the Carr side seems fair, if unexciting.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yes, I always have to remind myself about the short rosters. Clearing space has value in that format.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FLEX
Team A gave up
Team A gave up
- Brown, Dyami WAS WR;
- Valdes-Scantling, Marquez GBP WR;
- Year 2022 Draft Pick 2.07;
- Year 2023 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A; (2020 playoff team, still strong)
- Year 2023 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team C (2020 league Champ, still strong)
- Renfrow, Hunter LVR WR;
- Howard, O.J. TBB TE;
- Year 2023 Round 5 Draft Pick from Team B
I think I’d take the larger package here pretty comfortably. The three 2nds are nice even if they’re later, and I still like Dyami well enough.
Howard has next to no value for me anymore.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah it is both a major limiting factor on trying to squeeze deals together, as well as a driving force behind it. The market is robust in terms of activity and need (to cutdown), but the middle ground to find a deal is very thin.
Mid, could be early.
forgot to say its also a contract league- both guys are on 1 year deals.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
I would do this for Deebo in a second...he is an elite fantasy player/difference-maker and there are only so many of them...Akers is still an unknown (I would rather this piece be different), I like St. Brown but I like Deebo a lot more and the #1 is the type of asset it takes to get a stud still in his prime...nice move!
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farfromforgotten
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Agreed. St. Brown is a good player but I don’t see him becoming a great player. Akers is still unknown. The 23’ 1st is an unknown as well. Give me the young stud.
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swabs
Footballguy
The 1st is also likely to be end of round 1 since I won last year. St. Brown and Akers were gonna be on my bench this year anyways. I now have Adams, Tyreek, Deebo, and CeeDee, with Hopkins as bye week filler/trade bait.
Maggot Brain
Footballguy
This went down in an IDP 12 tm PPR contract league I'm in..
Team A: Gave 1.09, 1.12, & 3.12
Team B: Joe Mixon
Team A: Gave 1.09, 1.12, & 3.12
Team B: Joe Mixon
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
Ridiculous statement is ridiculous. A 23’ 1st and one of either St. Brown or Akers should not be enough for Deebo. Come on.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Players at the end of round 1 in 2023 might be equivalent to players going at the beginning of round 1 in 2022.
I like getting Deebo. I still think it’s too much by a Cam Akers.
for giggles I ran it though my calc & for 1 QB format it has the Deebo side at 189 to the Alers/ARSB/2023 1st side 452.
I don’t agree that it’s THAT lopsided, but it does seem like a lot for Deebo.
I love Deebo, especially as a Niners fan, but there’s legit concern about his QB for 2022 ~>, and whether he can hold up to the pounding of playing a hybrid role as he enters his year 27 season.
i would still deal for him, I just personally wouldn’t pay this much.
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Nope. I’d view Akers straight up and ASB and me “most” 2023 #1’s for him as equitable.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It absolutely should. Both calcs I ran it though agree, and I agreed before I ran it through the calcs. Cam + 23 1st seems like a very fair price.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Do people think there won't be hiccups with Trey Lance?
Do people think Deebo's rushing numbers are sustainable?
If people are viewing him as a "young stud", then he is the most obvious sell high candidate I have seen in quite some time.
Do people think Deebo's rushing numbers are sustainable?
If people are viewing him as a "young stud", then he is the most obvious sell high candidate I have seen in quite some time.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC 1QB not involved:
Team A gives Kupp, 2023 3rd
Team B gives Woods, 1.04, 2023 1st
Team C gives Carter, Schultz
Team D gives 1.04, Sermon, Mostert, Parham
FFPC SuperFlex not involved:
Team E gives 2023 1st, A Robinson, Carson
Team F gives Mac Jones
Team G gives Tyreek, D Henry
Team H gives 1.04, 1.08, 2.03, 2023 2nd
Team A gives Kupp, 2023 3rd
Team B gives Woods, 1.04, 2023 1st
Team C gives Carter, Schultz
Team D gives 1.04, Sermon, Mostert, Parham
FFPC SuperFlex not involved:
Team E gives 2023 1st, A Robinson, Carson
Team F gives Mac Jones
Team G gives Tyreek, D Henry
Team H gives 1.04, 1.08, 2.03, 2023 2nd
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm a Niner fan and love me some Deebo but they are changing QBs and who knows if what he did this year was repeatable. I would lean the Akers/ASB/23 1st side but if you were way deep, Akers/ASB were just bench/taxi guys, and that 1st is going to be late then I have no problem with either side.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I agree with everything you said here and I think this is too much but if I was the Deebo owner, I wouldn't even consider a really late 23 1st and ASB for him after the year he just had. With that being said, I'd accept this one in a hurry for sure.
Based on market value it's an overpay, but I'd rather have Deebo not taking market value into account. I've seen Deebo ranked as high as 8th overall in startups and WR6, and he only turned 26 six weeks ago so while not 'young' he's not old either. There may be hiccups with Lance and he may bust but it's not like Garoppolo was a stud either. Akers is a major question mark and a polarizing player. He's being ranked early and highly valued in calculators (not quite where he was pre-injury but getting closer), but I can't trade him away for anything near that high a value in the leagues I own him in. Lots of folks questioning the injury still and his playoff performance. FWIW, one of the calculators I plugged this into has it as an overpay by St Brown.
farfromforgotten
Footballguy
I view him being QB proof as long as said QB can put the ball into his hands at a reasonable rate.
People must see a different Deebo than I do.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I could see both sides but could be light for AJ Brown. I'd prefer to make this trade after the draft personally. Mooney taking over as the #1 in Chicago probably makes this a good move as long as 1.2 isn't a bust.
Poster said they won the league as well, I agree in that I don't think any Deebo owner would consider ASB plus a future 1st from the reining champ. Akers plus a late 1st I think would definitely make someone stop and think unless they don't like Akers.
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Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I don't play these FFPC or SF but I'll throw my 2 cents in:
1st - Kupp is aging so 1.04/23 1st/Woods could be too much but I don't have a huge problem depending on team makeup. If rebuilding though, that is a decent get for Kupp.
2nd - This one I went back and forth on as I'm not a huge Carter believer and Schultz is a FA. Sermon/Mostert/Parham aren't much really but 1.04 could be a nice piece. I probably go Carter now but that could change after the combine/draft.
3rd - This feels light for Mac Jones in SF. Depends on where that 23 1st falls though. A-Rob feels like a guy who's career is over and Carson probably in the same boat. At least in a huge downswing for both.
4th - I know Tyreek and King Henry are aging but 1.4/1.8/2.3 in a down draft and a 23 2nd doesn't feel like enough to me. I would have wanted one of those 1sts to be in 23 and feel comfortable with it falling in the top half if at all possible. If I had any chance to compete, I'd take the players here. I guess a rebuild it is the picks but feel you could maybe have diversified that better.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm a huge Niner fan but he did it for 1 year and did something that may not be sustainable with how much he runs. I'd say we would need a bigger sample size to call him QB proof. He may not even be history proof regaurdless of QB. I like him though and if I had him, I would require a lot like this to trade him.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I think how they view Akers would go a long ways for sure. Akers and a 1st might be enough but I'd still want better than a bottom 3 pick in that case. I think due to the lateness of the pick, not having ASB (or similar piece) along with it, and most people would say, I'll see what Deebo can do for a sequel instead.
If you believe Akers is what some do then I'm sure plenty would rush to it. I think Akers is a bit overrated in some circles (including many "experts" sites). I would go with the Akers side here but I do think that Deebo is the only one that is a stud. None of the 3 pieces on the other side are that but could be.
Shawnky
Footballguy
Shawnky
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Shawnky
Footballguy
Would prefer Brown, but his injuries the past 2 years have me worried about taking him in redraft next year. Absolute stud when he plays.
Boston
Footballguy
This year he had 77-1405-6 and 365-8...that is elite...too much production to be a fluke and I can't believe anyone who watched him would think it looked like a fluke.
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Boston
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
i don’t love buying players off of an otherworldly triple crown career year.
Paying for 2021 stats that likely won’t repeat. It’s not horrible. But I’d rather have the w2x firsts & Woods than pay that much.
gimme Carter/Schultz
Oof. I’ll take the 2023 1st & gamble that ARob/Carson bounce back. I don’t see huge upside in Mac Jones.
Tyreek/Henry in a landslide.
Shawnky
Footballguy
Never said fluke. Just said not elite until more proof. You’re telling me you’ve never seen a 1 year wonder? Anyone can buy in on 1 year’s wonder of stats and get burned.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I do not consider Deebo a fluke. I have concerns about his repeating this kind of production with Lance, and I have concerns about his well being taking that kind of punishment.
Injured /= Irrelevant. He was studly the 2nd half of his rookie season posting WR1 points over the 2nd half of the season including giving us a preview of the rushing ability/opportunities he got this past season. (He set a record for most rushing yards by a WR in the SB that year.) Then he fractured his foot during off-season workouts landing on IR to start the year, got put on the COVID list for a brief time, and was never healthy for 2020 playing only 7 games before getting shutdown due to a hamstring injury after the 49ers were out of the playoffs. People got massively enamoured with Aiyuk who was the last man standing catching passes (Kittle missed half of the season too) and folks forgot about Deebo to their detriment this past year.
I understand wanting to see him repeat his performance, I’ve certainly been on that side of an argument many times before. He needs to show he can stay healthy for more than one season (he did only miss 1 game his rookie season.)
