****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)

[greenmountaingoat]

I took on an orphan as my first ever dynasty team. Digging in, I got problems, especially at WR. 

The format is forgiving. 1qb, 1rb, 1wr, 1te, 3 flex, k, dst. , 14 teams, ppr

Major assets: Javonte Williams, Elijah Mitchell, C. Patt, Amon Ra St Brown, Dawson Knox, Kmet, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Plus 1.01, 1.13, 2.01, 2.09, 3.01, 4.01.

Feels like a rebuild. 1.01 has to be Hall then it’s a bushel basket of WR. Do you agree? My WR 1 probably is a top 4 2023 pick, I’m imagining. 

Does it make sense to try to flip some of those picks to 23? If so, how is the year change factored into value? In other words, 22 4.01+ 3.01 = 23 2.06ish? I understand that I’ll be doing guesswork on the team I’m dealing with, expected finish, etc. 

 

[greenmountaingoat]

Apologies for the rambling advice request, should have just asked about value for trade 22 vs 23.

 

[Buckna]

These are guys I would take over Deebo (potentially a couple of them I might prefer Deebo if my team sucked and needed to rebuild).  There are also some guys who I might like Chubb, Montgomery, Ekeler, Mcclaurin., Diggs, Godwin, Adams.....

Dalvin Cook, Jonathan Taylor, Swift, Najee Harris, Derick henry, Barkley, Javante Williams, CMC

DK Metcalf, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Jaylen Waddle, Ceedee Lamb, Cooper Kupp, Justin Jefferson, Jamaar Chase

Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews

There is 18 plus a handful of guys I can easily see over Deebo.  

I would also take rookie pick 1.01 over Deebo right now.

Yeah, pick 8 is silly.  Trade down to pick 20 for a lot of extra value and either still get Deebo or a similar value guy

Half those names have ADP’s after Deebo, and you most likely won’t get him at 20 (ADP’s will likely shift after the QB’s get traded or don’t and FA is done for sure, guys like Adams may plummet or rise back up.) I could just as easily say pass on any of those particular names with similar ADP’s and trade down for extra value and it would still be a valid statement.

You apparently don’t like Deebo much compared to some others top players. I can respect that and there’s certainly reason to doubt a repeat performance. I respectfully disagree with quite a few of the names you listed. For instance, valuing 27 or 28 year old RB’s coming off injuries that highly in a startup is not a strategy I would pursue. Others prefer to all-in in year 1 though so to each their own.

 

[BigAl21]

FFPC;

didn’t get much value for Ridley after news broke but moved him anyway

Gave: Ridley, 2023 2nd

Got: Mattison, 1.12

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC;

didn’t get much value for Ridley after news broke but moved him anyway

Gave: Ridley, 2023 2nd

Got: Mattison, 1.12

Didnt get much value?  You got a full 1st rounder and a top end handcuff more than he is worth.

That's one of the worst trades (for the other guy) I have ever seen.

Edit...well you did give up a future 2nd, which you can easily make a case that cancels out Mattison.

So you got pick 12 for free

 

[Pwingles]

12 tm superflex

Sent: Cousins

Got: 1.03

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC 1QB not involved:

Team A gave Akers, Gesicki, 1.11
Team B gave Mixon, Sutton

FFPC SuperFlex not involved:

Team A gave 2023 1st
Team B gave 2.07, 2023 2nd x2

Team C gave Ridley
Team D gave 2023 4th

FFPC SuperFlex

I gave T Marshall, 2023 3rd
I got 2023 2nd, Ridley

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC 1QB not involved:

Team A gave Akers, Gesicki, 1.11
Team B gave Mixon, Sutton

i’ll take Mixon and Sutton.

FFPC SuperFlex not involved:

Team A gave 2023 1st
Team B gave 2.07, 2023 2nd x2

Knee jerk, give me the 1st,  but depending on the day I could easily say I would take the 2ב23 seconds. 

Team C gave Ridley
Team D gave 2023 4th

I will keep the pic. I’m starting to doubt that Ridley will ever be a significant factor in Fantasy Football again. 

FFPC SuperFlex

I gave T Marshall, 2023 3rd
I got 2023 2nd, Ridley

I like this trade for you only because of the 2023 second rounder. I’m not that high on Marshall, & Ridley might be a drop candidate at some point, so that’s kind of a wash to me.

that 2023 second round pic seems like the most valuable piece in this trade.

 

[Marauder]

FFPC;

didn’t get much value for Ridley after news broke but moved him anyway

Gave: Ridley, 2023 2nd

Got: Mattison, 1.12

Great trade for you.  In FFPC I'd value Ridley at about a 4th at best (maybe lower) due to the value of roster spots.  Getting the 1.12 for him is fantastic.

 

[barackdhouse]

i’ll take Mixon and Sutton. Gimme Akers, Gesicki and the pick

Knee jerk, give me the 1st,  but depending on the day I could easily say I would take the 2ב23 seconds. 

I will keep the pic. I’m starting to doubt that Ridley will ever be a significant factor in Fantasy Football again. 

I like this trade for you only because of the 2023 second rounder. I’m not that high on Marshall, & Ridley might be a drop candidate at some point, so that’s kind of a wash to me.

that 2023 second round pic seems like the most valuable piece in this trade.

Yeah all about that second rounder and clearing Marshall off my roster. Don't know if I will keep Ridley and really it was all about getting that 2nd. That 1st for three 2nds is crazy. Would do that all day for that 1st. I like Mixon hate Sutton. Akers is the mystery.

 

[JoeJoe88]

FFPC;

didn’t get much value for Ridley after news broke but moved him anyway

Gave: Ridley, 2023 2nd

Got: Mattison, 1.12

Surprised you were able to get this, honestly. He’ll be at least 29 before he’s able to even step foot back on the field. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Surprised you were able to get this, honestly. He’ll be at least 29 before he’s able to even step foot back on the field. 

at least

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC standard

Pick 1.01

For

Pick 1.05 and a 2023 1st ( middle of the road team so future pick could truly be anywhere).

I believe most people "easily" took the side of pick 5 and future 1st here.

Any change of thought?  Same?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I believe most people "easily" took the side of pick 5 and future 1st here.

Any change of thought?  Same?

I would definitely still take 1.05 and the 2023 1st. 

there should be a pretty solid player at 1.05, and ‘23 is expected to be stacked with quality running backs.
 

So no matter how well Hall did at the  the underwear Olympics, you’ve got guys like Gibbs, Tank Bigsby, Zach Evans and so many more all through the 2023 first round. Also expected to have several stud receivers in the first round, like JS-N & Boutte. Plus a few studly quarterbacks and at least 1 tight end that could sneak into the late first round as well as well, of course. 

so no matter what the 2023 pick turns out to be, the chances of landing a stud at one of those positions it’s pretty high.

I make that trade-off fairly easily. But of course it will also depend on your team needs and current state of competitiveness.

 

[JoeJoe88]

I believe most people "easily" took the side of pick 5 and future 1st here.

Any change of thought?  Same?

No change for me. Firmly on the 1.05 and 23’ 1st side. 

 

[wlwiles]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.11, 2.10, 2023 4th
I got 2023 1st, Albert Okwuegbunam

Still hold 1.07, 1.12, 2.03 and 2.08

Somebody knew something before the rest of the class, methinks....

 

[Buckna]

I believe most people "easily" took the side of pick 5 and future 1st here.

Any change of thought?  Same?

Closer now with Hall’s combine home run. But still need to see where he lands in the draft. I also would go with 5 & 1st but likely a trade both sides may end up very happy with. 

 

[Gally]

Zealots PPR, 1 QB, IDP

Team A gave:  Sermon, Jeudy, 2022 2nd

Team B gave;  Nwangwu, Thielen, Robert Woods, & Jordyn Brooks

This one loses a bit of value of moving Jeudy

 

[barackdhouse]

Somebody knew something before the rest of the class, methinks....

Yeah bumping him up even further now. The double bounce. Fant is gone and Wilson is in. This was just a 4th for Albert that we threw in at the last minute.

 

[ffmail4me]

12 team PPR dynasty league (1qb league) 

Traded: Mike Williams 

Got: Trey Lance 

Wentz was my only starting QB and I was loaded (Chase, Godwin, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Elijiah Moore, Curis Samuel) at WR so made the deal. Wish I had more proven production on Lance, but as much as they gave up to get him, surely he's got the goods right? 

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

FFPC

trying to get little younger and still be competitive. My RB situation is dire so I took a shot on Barkley

Gave: Tyreek Hill, Davante Adams

Got: Barkley, Devonta Smith, 1.06, 2023 2nd, 3rd

Had Hill and Adams on block/ shopped around with little interest in Hill and zero interest in Adams

I understand the desire here as you need a RB but I'm not a fan of this trade at all.  Hill/Adams are elite options.  No way I give up both and not get a real stud back unless Barkley can stay on the field for a bad team.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

FFPC;

didn’t get much value for Ridley after news broke but moved him anyway

Gave: Ridley, 2023 2nd

Got: Mattison, 1.12

I have Ridley and I would jump on this in a heartbeat.  He may never play again.  So unless that 2023 2nd ends up being 2.01 in a deeper draft then this is a steal for you.  Getting anything for Ridley is a good get right now.  Not sure what the other guy was thinking.

 

[osiriskid]

12 team dynasty SF PPR

Team A gets : 2022 1.12

Team B gets: Cortland Sutton  

 

[Shawnky]

12 team dynasty SF PPR

Team A gets : 2022 1.12

Team B gets: Cortland Sutton  

I’ll take Sutton easily. 

 

[foxco]

I’ll take Sutton easily. 

In SF think I'll take the pick even in a QB weak year, but fair trade IMO. 

 

[mzkp54]

Offloaded a share of Ridley today. Not the best return but I’m okay with it. 
 

12 team SF PPR TE premium

Gave: Calvin Ridley 
Got: Van Jefferson, 3.05, 3.07

 

[wlwiles]

12 team dynasty SF PPR

Team A gets : 2022 1.12

Team B gets: Cortland Sutton  

In SF I think this is a great price, in 1QB I think the 1.08 or .09 is about right. 

 

[BigAl21]

FFPC,

these two players would have been sure cuts at cut down two days ago. Albert became a fringe guy with news of the trade…

Gave: 1.12, Curtis Samuel, Albert O

Got: 2023 1st (league champ last year)

 

[wlwiles]

FFPC,

these two players would have been sure cuts at cut down two days ago. Albert became a fringe guy with news of the trade…

Gave: 1.12, Curtis Samuel, Albert O

Got: 2023 1st (league champ last year)

As long as this isn't a 20 team league I'd take the random '23 first all day long.  Samuel is waiver fodder and AO isn't enough to bridge the gap to a better draft class. 

 

[rockaction]

Samuel is waiver fodder

I would love to acquire him. The guy in our league that has him notoriously just will not answer trade offers, no matter how reasonable. In fact, I'm sort of pissed off that he is a dutiful owner otherwise. (Always on time for drafts, declares his RFAs on time, etc.) It makes it less fun to play with a guy like that. 

Anyway, on to Samuel. He's highly rated in Matt Harmon's Reception Perception. He intrigues me. If he were ever on the wire, I'd bid a ton for him. 

 

[wlwiles]

I would love to acquire him. The guy in our league that has him notoriously just will not answer trade offers, no matter how reasonable. In fact, I'm sort of pissed off that he is a dutiful owner otherwise. (Always on time for drafts, declares his RFAs on time, etc.) It makes it less fun to play with a guy like that. 

Anyway, on to Samuel. He's highly rated in Matt Harmon's Reception Perception. He intrigues me. If he were ever on the wire, I'd bid a ton for him. 

hmmm, you've got me reconsidering now.  I take back the waiver fodder remark then, maybe WR5-6 material.  I had him in redraft like 3 times last year and he just was never healthy so I guess I just soured on him and ruled him out in my mind.  

 

[Gally]

12 team dynasty SF PPR

Team A gets : 2022 1.12

Team B gets: Cortland Sutton  

Is Sutton the new Gabe Davis?

 

[rockaction]

hmmm, you've got me reconsidering now

Thanks. But never let me do that. I can be truly terrible at this game at times. Heh. 

My take on Samuel might be one of those times. He's an undersized guy with tons of speed. He's not a traditional receiver, and his best finish came when Carolina was letting him run the ball. I tried to acquire him before last year because Ron Rivera had said advanced statistics show that you win when you get him the football. That was all I needed to hear. 

But he was indeed hurt all last year. It was a wasted year and one wonders what was up with the Washington medical staff, a staff notoriously and rightfully defamed by the Trent Williams story. One could also question his desire to play, though nobody in Washington did. Sounded like a hernia that needed surgery and never healed, one surmises. 

Anyway, RP has him rated highly. Do with that what one will. 

 

[Enderdog]

I would love to acquire him. The guy in our league that has him notoriously just will not answer trade offers, no matter how reasonable.

Challenge accepted.

 

[rockaction]

Challenge accepted.

Enderdog, are you the Las Vegas Raiders in our league? All signs point to you...

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

SF, PPR

I gave: 

2022 1.08, Daniel Jones 

I got 2022 2.04, Michael Carter

My rebuilding team has a nice corps of young WRs, but is a RB wasteland.

The only part I don’t love is having Zach Wilson + Carter, as it’s a lot of Dependency on Jets, but I like Carter, and I think it’s fair. 

And I am now officially no longer invested in Daniel Jones/NY Giants. My trade partner has Trubisky, so he was interested in potentially locking up that QB situation. 

 

[barackdhouse]

SF, PPR

I gave: 

2022 1.08, Daniel Jones 

I got 2022 2.04, Michael Carter

My rebuilding team has a nice corps of young WRs, but is a RB wasteland.

I like Carter and think it is fine. I don't think there will be more than a couple QBs that go high. Even in this format.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

FFPC,

these two players would have been sure cuts at cut down two days ago. Albert became a fringe guy with news of the trade…

Gave: 1.12, Curtis Samuel, Albert O

Got: 2023 1st (league champ last year)

I can’t see how Curtis Samuel survives the cutdown to 15 for any team in any league - and I’m a semi-fan of his.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I like Carter and think it is fine. I don't think there will be more than a couple QBs that go high. Even in this format.

You mean by 2.04? 

 

[rockaction]

I can’t see how Curtis Samuel survives the cutdown to 15 for any team in any league

Just to clarify. I don't think he would survive that cut, either, but our league holds at least forty-sixty at all times, presumably twenty on offense and twenty on defense (it never works out that way, but let's assume). We go through the season with fifty-one, cut down to forty-eight by March, assign eight guys to a restricted free agency pool, and then after that, we expand to about sixty, with the final cutdown after the draft to fifty-one again. That's the kind of roster that I'm thinking about. 

 

[mzkp54]

12 team SF PPR IDP

Gave: Ceedee Lamb, Ronald Jones, 1.10
Got: Justin Jefferson, Jerry Jeudy 

 

[rockaction]

12 team SF PPR IDP

Gave: Ceedee Lamb, Ronald Jones, 1.10
Got: Justin Jefferson, Jerry Jeudy 

Ronald Jones was sought in something? 

Give me the "Got" side, and pretty easily. 

 

[Boston]

12 team SF PPR IDP

Gave: Ceedee Lamb, Ronald Jones, 1.10
Got: Justin Jefferson, Jerry Jeudy 

I like Ceedee a lot but not sure what they are trying to accomplish here...Jefferson is elite and while Jeudy has been a disappointment I would like to see what he can do with Wilson before treating him as kind of a throw-in...just don't see the reason for this deal.

 

[Boston]

SF, PPR

I gave: 

2022 1.08, Daniel Jones 

I got 2022 2.04, Michael Carter

My rebuilding team has a nice corps of young WRs, but is a RB wasteland.

The only part I don’t love is having Zach Wilson + Carter, as it’s a lot of Dependency on Jets, but I like Carter, and I think it’s fair. 

And I am now officially no longer invested in Daniel Jones/NY Giants. My trade partner has Trubisky, so he was interested in potentially locking up that QB situation. 

I am a big fan of Carter but this deal makes me nervous in a SF format...while Jones has been very below average if Daboll gets squared away you could really regret this.

 

[JohnnyU]

I am a big fan of Carter but this deal makes me nervous in a SF format...while Jones has been very below average if Daboll gets squared away you could really regret this.

I don’t think he will.

 

[Boston]

I don’t think he will.

I doubt it as well but it is not out of the question and in SF this can real come back to hurt you...between that and 1.8 there is some real downside to this deal.

 

[rockaction]

I like Ceedee a lot but not sure what they are trying to accomplish here...Jefferson is elite and while Jeudy has been a disappointment I would like to see what he can do with Wilson before treating him as kind of a throw-in...just don't see the reason for this deal.

CeeDee and the 1.10 could conceivably (conceivably) be a wash with Jefferson.  I know I offered A.J. Brown and a first for Justin Jefferson and was told that he wasn't trading until after the draft, so that was, for all intents and purposes, a "no." I can't see how CeeDee and the 1.10 get it done, really, either.  

So even granting that equality (it probably isn't, at least by my estimation), then you're left with Jeudy for Ronald Jones, the latter of which moves the value needle almost negatively. 

What? You want me to take Ronald freaking Jones? Sheesh, bra. 

So I don't get this deal, either. 

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC,

these two players would have been sure cuts at cut down two days ago. Albert became a fringe guy with news of the trade…

Gave: 1.12, Curtis Samuel, Albert O

Got: 2023 1st (league champ last year)

I had Albert in 7 FFPC leagues before the news yesterday and was planning on keeping him in all of them. He was a prime TE target for me in waivers towards the end of the season and had been going after him in trades. For super cheap. But I do agree most owners were probably cutting him. He is available in several leagues in the FA pool. I got offered 2.11 for him yesterday and turned it down. Samuel is a guy I might cut.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am a big fan of Carter but this deal makes me nervous in a SF format...while Jones has been very below average if Daboll gets squared away you could really regret this.

I could.

Or I could watch Jones value drop to zero if they bring in Trubisky & he beats out Jones in camp.

Either way, I feel like I have a young asset that I can keep or trade, where with Jones it feels like the already tattered rug could be pulled out from under him at any moment. 

Calculated risk. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I doubt it as well but it is not out of the question and in SF this can real come back to hurt you...between that and 1.8 there is some real downside to this deal.

I didn’t feel like anyone at 1.08 would be worth more than Carter. Certainly possible, but harder to predict.