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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)

You mean by 2.04? 
Sorry didn't explain myself well. No I meant by 1.08. I don't know that more than 2 QBs go in the first round of SF this year. Which mean 1.08 may not get you a RB that is better than Carter. Can it get you a WR that is maybe better than Carter in an abstract sense? Maybe. Probably just as good a chance for that kind of WR at 2.04, and as you said you are already strong there. Also, if you're dipping into the next tier of rookie RBs, 2.04 is maybe closer to the sweet spot.

As for Jones, I hate him. Bias acknowledged. TLDR *maybe* you're missing out on something special at 1.08 but I think Carter is way undervalued right now.

 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave 2.10, 3.10
I got 2.12, 3.12, Vaughn

FFPC 1QB

I gave 4.11, 5.10, 2023 5th
I got 5.04, 6.04, T Marshall

I'm trying to have less of these guys but this is practically free.

 
Sorry didn't explain myself well. No I meant by 1.08. I don't know that more than 2 QBs go in the first round of SF this year. Which mean 1.08 may not get you a RB that is better than Carter. Can it get you a WR that is maybe better than Carter in an abstract sense? Maybe. Probably just as good a chance for that kind of WR at 2.04, and as you said you are already strong there. Also, if you're dipping into the next tier of rookie RBs, 2.04 is maybe closer to the sweet spot.

As for Jones, I hate him. Bias acknowledged. TLDR *maybe* you're missing out on something special at 1.08 but I think Carter is way undervalued right now.
Thank you - this was exactly my approach, and I feared the bottom falling out on Danny 10 Pennies.

it’s sucky, because when the regime change happened in NY, I allowed myself the slightest bit of excitement - now the Trubisky noise is getting louder and this felt like a fortunate opportunity to unburden myself of Jones after years of disappointment. 

 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave 2.10, 3.10
I got 2.12, 3.12, Vaughn

FFPC 1QB

I gave 4.11, 5.10, 2023 5th
I got 5.04, 6.04, T Marshall

I'm trying to have less of these guys but this is practically free.
I started laughing when I saw the names because I know you’ve been trying to move off of these two. But you’re right. Might as well take ‘em if they’re giving them away. 

 
Thank you - this was exactly my approach, and I feared the bottom falling out on Danny 10 Pennies.

it’s sucky, because when the regime change happened in NY, I allowed myself the slightest bit of excitement - now the Trubisky noise is getting louder and this felt like a fortunate opportunity to unburden myself of Jones after years of disappointment. 
Giants are in serious cap hell and this year will be about getting the cap in order. I don’t think there’s any reason they’d bring in Trubisky (and with a few teams still desperate for a QB some one will pay more than the Giants).

Thats not really a comment on your trade because there’s a very real chance this is Jones last season as a starter in the NFL - I do think there’s not much chance he doesn’t start this season though.

 
Dr. Octopus said:
Giants are in serious cap hell and this year will be about getting the cap in order. I don’t think there’s any reason they’d bring in Trubisky (and with a few teams still desperate for a QB some one will pay more than the Giants).

Thats not really a comment on your trade because there’s a very real chance this is Jones last season as a starter in the NFL - I do think there’s not much chance he doesn’t start this season though.
How do you feel about Carter (I value Jets fans perspective)?

 
How do you feel about Carter (I value Jets fans perspective)?
I really like him as far as the NFL. I also like him for fantasy but see him as more of a depth/flex piece (with upside) as I do think they likely see him as more of a RBBC back. He's very quick and has more power than I expected for his size - but even in college he was a RBBC back. Unless the Jets use a very early pick at RB (and I do not see that) I can see him being the leader of the committee. If Wilson builds off his strong finish, Carter could finish the season as a solid RB2.

I would have made that trade I think, as I think there's a pretty decent chance that this is Jones' last stand and I don't think the Giants are in any position to build up that o-line or add skill position players in one offseason with their cap situation - but I admit I've never player in a super-flex dynasty.

 
I really like him as far as the NFL. I also like him for fantasy but see him as more of a depth/flex piece (with upside) as I do think they likely see him as more of a RBBC back. He's very quick and has more power than I expected for his size - but even in college he was a RBBC back. Unless the Jets use a very early pick at RB (and I do not see that) I can see him being the leader of the committee. If Wilson builds off his strong finish, Carter could finish the season as a solid RB2.

I would have made that trade I think, as I think there's a pretty decent chance that this is Jones' last stand and I don't think the Giants are in any position to build up that o-line or add skill position players in one offseason with their cap situation - but I admit I've never player in a super-flex dynasty.
Appreciate it - I agree about Jones. Sure, he’s had a raw deal. Dearth of talent around him, and when they finally add weapons he loses his RB & his OL stinks.

And while that’s all fair criticism, it also doesn’t add value to my FF team to think about “what might have been” vs “what is”.

Im happy to move on, and felt the price of dropping 8 spots in the draft to acquire a young RB was worth it.

i expect I’ll be able to package Carter (or keep him) if I want after 2022, while Jones might be holding a clipboard or out of the league in 2023.

 
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14 team ppr 1QB, 6 point passing.

Got offered a 2023 2nd round pick (likely late, think 2.10 or so) plus Davis Mills for Russell Wilson.

Thinking of countering with Russ + 2022 2.09 (or 3.01) for his 2033 1st, again likely 1.10. So Wilson pays for the difference between 1.10 2023 vs 2.09 2022. Guy has no high picks this year and Rodgers. Plus a huge core of aging studs at all other positions. 

My team is very very thin at WR, have 6 2022 picks including 1.01, 1.13, 2.01, 2.09. This will leave me with Fields as my QB which, considering I'm basically in a rebuild and there's a bunch of QBs coming in next year is probably fine. 

 
14 team ppr 1QB, 6 point passing.

Got offered a 2023 2nd round pick (likely late, think 2.10 or so) plus Davis Mills for Russell Wilson.

Thinking of countering with Russ + 2022 2.09 (or 3.01) for his 2033 1st, again likely 1.10. So Wilson pays for the difference between 1.10 2023 vs 2.09 2022. Guy has no high picks this year and Rodgers. Plus a huge core of aging studs at all other positions. 

My team is very very thin at WR, have 6 2022 picks including 1.01, 1.13, 2.01, 2.09. This will leave me with Fields as my QB which, considering I'm basically in a rebuild and there's a bunch of QBs coming in next year is probably fine. 
I feel like that’s still a little light, even in a 1 QB league. 

i’d probably ask for his 2023 1st & a WR2 type. See if he bites. Right now you’ve got the most valuable trade chip. 

 
FFPC standard

Mike William's, 2.04, 2023 3rd

For

Calvin Ridley, James Robinson, 3.10

Seems.......stupid
Williams side by a lot.  It doesn't make a lot of sense mostly because the picks are off.  Williams for Ridley/Robinson assuming the guy moving Williams has strong WR depth could be ok with a pick thrown in on the Ridley/Robinson side but adding a high 2nd and 3rd seems like overkill.

 
FFPC standard

Mike William's, 2.04, 2023 3rd

For

Calvin Ridley, James Robinson, 3.10

Seems.......stupid
I cannot fathom why anyone would be dealing for Ridley right now, much less at that price. 

I’d rather have the Mike Williams side even without the Ridley off-field adventures. Terrible.

 
The guy trading away Mike William's has the obvious worst team.  Shocker

That trade is basically a free Mike Williams.   Maybe more.  I would deal just that 2nd for Ridley and Robinson

 
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mzkp54 said:
12 team SF PPR IDP

Gave: Ceedee Lamb, Ronald Jones, 1.10
Got: Justin Jefferson, Jerry Jeudy 
The "gave" side must be a Cowboys fan.  This is a bad trade as Jefferson is worth a ton more than Lamb and Jeudy just got Russ.  I'd consider this fair if Jeudy was left off all together.

 
FFPC standard

Mike William's, 2.04, 2023 3rd

For

Calvin Ridley, James Robinson, 3.10

Seems.......stupid
This is terrible.  I like Ridley and hope he comes back but he has almost 0 value right now.  J-Rob coming off of an injury.  Not sure why the Big Mike Williams side had to include an early 2nd and a 3rd in a deep draft.  BMW is worth Ridley, J-Rob, and 3.10 by himself especially since he already signed his long term deal this week.

 
This is terrible.  I like Ridley and hope he comes back but he has almost 0 value right now.  J-Rob coming off of an injury.  Not sure why the Big Mike Williams side had to include an early 2nd and a 3rd in a deep draft.  BMW is worth Ridley, J-Rob, and 3.10 by himself especially since he already signed his long term deal this week.
I can fathom why anyone would give MW for that package, let alone the picks.

I may protest it just to maybe knock sense into the owner.  Dumb

 
FFPC standard

Mike William's, 2.04, 2023 3rd

For

Calvin Ridley, James Robinson, 3.10

Seems.......stupid
That would be close to a fair trade if none of Ridley's mental health/suspension issues were at play and Robison didn't tear his Achilles. With those things this is just bizarre. 

 
That would be close to a fair trade if none of Ridley's mental health/suspension issues were at play and Robison didn't tear his Achilles. With those things this is just bizarre. 
I personally liked Ridley far more than BMW before last year started so I think without the mental/gambling and J-Rob not injured they kill this deal.  However even if J-Rod not hurt this would be a bad trade and with the injury, it is just terrible.  No reason any manager should have considered this right now.

 
Quite a few in the past two weeks in a:

14 team, SF, PPR, TE premium

QB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/3 FLEX (only 1 can be QB)

QB Fields,  CHI

for

QB Watson, HOU

3.04, 4.04 

for

WR Wilson, DAL

RB Herbert, CHI, 2.02, 2.12

for

WR Lockett, SEA, 3.04 (pre Russel Wilson trade)

2.10, 2.14

for

RB Patterson, ATL

QB Tannehill, TEN, WR Hopkins, ARI, WR Skowronek, LAR

for

QB Jones, NYG, WR Lazard, GB, WR McLaurin, WAS

WR McLaurin, WAS WR Wesley,, ARI

for

WR Samuel, CAR, WR Thomas, NO

2.13 

for 

WR Landry, CLE

RB Carter, NYJ, 1.15, 2023 2nd

for

QB Winston, NO, WR Osborn, MIN, TE Goedert, PHL

WR Ridley, ATL

for

2023 2nd

*Not all the same teams involved in trades

 
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FFPC 
I Received 2023 1st Round Pick & 2023 3rd Round Pick (Same team, both around 1.04-1.06)

Note: This was a day before Wentz was Traded

Team B Received:  Michael Pittman & 2023 4th Round Pick (Roughly 4.10-4.12)

I was up against the roster cap and still have the following at WR...

D.Adams, J.Jefferson, J.Chase & B. Aiyuk. Have Kelce at TE, N.Harris and a few RB2's as well as all my 2022 picks and 3 2023 1st's, 2 2023 2nd's and 2 2023 3rd's

 
12 team Superflex TE premium

TRANSACTIONDATE

Team 1gave up Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Herbert, Khalil CHI RB; Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.06; Year 2022 Draft Pick 3.05

Team 2 gave up Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.01

 
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12 team Superflex TE premium

TRANSACTIONDATE

Team 1gave up Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Herbert, Khalil CHI RB; Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.06; Year 2022 Draft Pick 3.05

Team 2 gave up Year 2022 Draft Pick 1.01
Why would anyone move down 5 spots to get that such fringe pieces back? How could he not get a better deal for the 1.01? 

 
That would be close to a fair trade if none of Ridley's mental health/suspension issues were at play and Robison didn't tear his Achilles. With those things this is just bizarre. 
I think if those things were not at play it would have been a blowout on the side getting Ridley/Robinson. And saying this trade is awful for 2022 purposes and I agree the Ridley side lost. But, and I'm not trying to be a contrarian here, this is the kind of trade I view as horrible in the short term, give it some time and it might work out. 

 
I feel like that’s still a little light, even in a 1 QB league. 

i’d probably ask for his 2023 1st & a WR2 type. See if he bites. Right now you’ve got the most valuable trade chip. 
It may be a little light but I doubt you'd get a 2023 1st as the team does have Rodgers and, unless a huge Wilson/Denver fan, not in dire need of a QB. Crazier things have happened though.

 
FFPC 
I Received 2023 1st Round Pick & 2023 3rd Round Pick (Same team, both around 1.04-1.06)

Note: This was a day before Wentz was Traded

Team B Received:  Michael Pittman & 2023 4th Round Pick (Roughly 4.10-4.12)

I was up against the roster cap and still have the following at WR...

D.Adams, J.Jefferson, J.Chase & B. Aiyuk. Have Kelce at TE, N.Harris and a few RB2's as well as all my 2022 picks and 3 2023 1st's, 2 2023 2nd's and 2 2023 3rd's
Pittman's just a guy to me. Solid, but just a guy. Great trade for you especially in light of your lineup.

 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave Mooney
I got Renfrow

Yeah I got a skosh older but I think Renfrow and McDaniels in Vegas are going to be a thing. I am a bit skeptical on Mooney moving forward. Either way I think it is a wash in terms of value but I think Renfrow has a bigger 2022. 

 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave Mooney
I got Renfrow

Yeah I got a skosh older but I think Renfrow and McDaniels in Vegas are going to be a thing. I am a bit skeptical on Mooney moving forward. Either way I think it is a wash in terms of value but I think Renfrow has a bigger 2022. 
I’d rather have Mooney, personally.

 
It may be a little light but I doubt you'd get a 2023 1st as the team does have Rodgers and, unless a huge Wilson/Denver fan, not in dire need of a QB. Crazier things have happened though.
Why’s a team that has Rodgers trading to acquire Wilson?  That doesn’t make a ton of sense unless he’s planning to flip one of them. 

 
FFPC 
I Received 2023 1st Round Pick & 2023 3rd Round Pick (Same team, both around 1.04-1.06)

Note: This was a day before Wentz was Traded

Team B Received:  Michael Pittman & 2023 4th Round Pick (Roughly 4.10-4.12)

I was up against the roster cap and still have the following at WR...

D.Adams, J.Jefferson, J.Chase & B. Aiyuk. Have Kelce at TE, N.Harris and a few RB2's as well as all my 2022 picks and 3 2023 1st's, 2 2023 2nd's and 2 2023 3rd's
I’m higher on Pittman than many & I’d take that package all day for him. 

The trade timing isn’t really relevant - if anything, the Wentz trade might help his numbers. 

 
2.02 seems like an overpay to move up 1 spot; but i guess if that was the price that was the price. Someone really wants Hall.

I could see doing this after the NFL Draft when we knew where Hall was going.
 I thought it was a solid deal. At this point Hall and Walker seem like cream of the crop to or I should say for me and paying 2.2 to put yourself in position in case one lands great and the other maybe not makes sense to me. You just don't know. It might end up being were at pick 1 you could go either way and at the end of the day you gave up 2.2 for nothing.

 
FFPC SuperFlex

I gave Mooney
I got Renfrow

Yeah I got a skosh older but I think Renfrow and McDaniels in Vegas are going to be a thing. I am a bit skeptical on Mooney moving forward. Either way I think it is a wash in terms of value but I think Renfrow has a bigger 2022. 
Totally agree

 
 I thought it was a solid deal. At this point Hall and Walker seem like cream of the crop to or I should say for me and paying 2.2 to put yourself in position in case one lands great and the other maybe not makes sense to me. You just don't know. It might end up being were at pick 1 you could go either way and at the end of the day you gave up 2.2 for nothing.
Yeah, like I said, if that’s the price, that’s the price.

I get it. It makes sense. But I still think it’s a lot to pay. As you mentioned there are a couple of blue chip players this draft. I’d probably be happy knowing I was guaranteed one of them. 

 
I’m still holding Jones. He should draw some FA interest. Dude’s only 24. He’s shown flashes. 
I own him on a few team and he's one of the players I'm most interested to see land. It could factor into me deciding to cut him or putting a fairly decent value on him. At least I hope it makes my decision more clear.

I just found out last night  that the Ravens almost traded for him this past year-that would have been great last year, that they thought they had put a fair price out for him but got rejected. That's the kind of landing spot I might have to just cut(FFPC). And that's actually a good system for him could highlight his strengths and minimize his weakness in passing game but it's the 3 headed RBBC with a running QB that would not be so great. Anyway I only found out this news because a Ravens beat writer listed him as a possible FA target and then explained why(that they tried to trade for him and both RB's coming off injury)

 

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