****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (14 Viewers)

[barackdhouse]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

 

[Marauder]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Williams easily. He was a mid first last year knowing that he would be basically a red shirt for a year. He should be worth more now than he was last year now that we know he's healthy.

 

[titusbramble]

Yeah, give me Jamo in that spot

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Love that value. I might offer 2.01 and see if I get a nibble.

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Love that value. I might offer 2.01 and see if I get a nibble.

You're on the right track. He had offered for my 1.11 and I let it sit there for like a week instead of slamming it (because I hadn't paid my entry dues yet). He withdrew the offer and then my moneytrain came in and I bought in and offered 1.12 and he slammed it.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Love that value. I might offer 2.01 and see if I get a nibble.

You're on the right track. He had offered for my 1.11 and I let it sit there for like a week instead of slamming it (because I hadn't paid my entry dues yet). He withdrew the offer and then my moneytrain came in and I bought in and offered 1.12 and he slammed it.

I already have ASRB, but I do see it as a potential buy-low. The Williams owner in my league has like 10 good WR.

 

[ghostguy123]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Agree - I'm pretty sure my offer will be rejected, but my potential partner has so many WR I'm hoping maybe it'll open a discussion for one of the others.

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

It was a different owner. Sold the team and this partner doesn't like Williams I presume.

 

[Buckna]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Williams easily. He was a mid first last year knowing that he would be basically a red shirt for a year. He should be worth more now than he was last year now that we know he's healthy.

Eh, can’t say I agree that he should be worth more now than a year ago. ASRB broke out big time and showed he wasn’t a one year fluke. Williams missed a lot more time than originally expected and did little once he got on the field at the end of the year. I don’t think anyone expected him to end the year with exactly one catch even rehabbing and missing part of the season. Detroit looks likely to stick with Goff which while not nearly as bad a sounding idea as a year ago still doesn’t fill me with a lot of long-term confidence.

I still really like him and would definitely buy for the 1.12 but I wouldn’t pay a pick a whole lot higher than that. Probably would top out around the 1.09 or so for me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

It was a different owner. Sold the team and this partner doesn't like Williams I presume.

My offer was rejected with no counter.

 

[Boston]

Got 1.03, 1.04 and 1.06.

Want something definite rather than 3 unknowns. Probably helps with that added context.

I liked the deal before knowing this...this fact makes me like it even more.

 

[Boston]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Williams easily...the fact it is not SF makes doing this for a 1.12 even stranger...not sure what this Owner thinks he is getting at 1.12 that makes this deal worth it...and even if he has a target in mind how do you know he will even be there.

 

[TartanLion]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

 

[Blick]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

 

[TartanLion]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

 

[Boston]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

I know what you mean...probably clearer to say that because he played, we now know the ACL is in the rear-view mirror...which was the most important thing for him in 2022...how he loses value after that makes zero sense to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

This is how I tried to sell it to the owner in my league. He’s loaded at WR, has very little at RB.

Wouldn’t bite on the 2.01

Might offer the 1.10 to see if that moves the needle.

If not I’ll spend the picks or try to trade with someone else.

 

[Buckna]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

I know what you mean...probably clearer to say that because he played, we now know the ACL is in the rear-view mirror...which was the most important thing for him in 2022...how he loses value after that makes zero sense to me.

Pretty simple really, very few people are scared of ACL's these days so healing up really wasn't that big a concern for his value. It was mildly concerning that it took him longer to come back than originally anticipated, but that was alleviated once he got on the field. What's a bigger concern now is that once healthy he played 6 games and averaged less than 2 targets a game and caught 1 pass that counted officially. That is massively disappointing for a highly drafted 1st round WR. Maybe it was because they were bringing him along slowly or he wasn't 100% yet, or maybe it's because of more fundamental issues? We can't say for sure right now and that breeds uncertainty. An even bigger factor is you couple that with ASRB's ascension and the odds of Jameson taking over as the WR1 went down considerably from a year ago when many thought ASRB was a volume fluke due to being the only Detroit WR option in '21.

I don't agree with those podcast guys that you just dump him for any 1st or give up on him. With more time to heal and a full offseason he may yet overtake ASRB or they may become the next Chase and Higgins. Jameson did flash special talent in college. But given that fantasy is often "what have you done for me lately" and ASRB's solidifying himself with a great season, it's pretty easy to see why his value has declined from a year ago.

 

[TartanLion]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

I know what you mean...probably clearer to say that because he played, we now know the ACL is in the rear-view mirror...which was the most important thing for him in 2022...how he loses value after that makes zero sense to me.

Pretty simple really, very few people are scared of ACL's these days so healing up really wasn't that big a concern for his value. It was mildly concerning that it took him longer to come back than originally anticipated, but that was alleviated once he got on the field. What's a bigger concern now is that once healthy he played 6 games and averaged less than 2 targets a game and caught 1 pass that counted officially. That is massively disappointing for a highly drafted 1st round WR. Maybe it was because they were bringing him along slowly or he wasn't 100% yet, or maybe it's because of more fundamental issues? We can't say for sure right now and that breeds uncertainty. An even bigger factor is you couple that with ASRB's ascension and the odds of Jameson taking over as the WR1 went down considerably from a year ago when many thought ASRB was a volume fluke due to being the only Detroit WR option in '21.

I don't agree with those podcast guys that you just dump him for any 1st or give up on him. With more time to heal and a full offseason he may yet overtake ASRB or they may become the next Chase and Higgins. Jameson did flash special talent in college. But given that fantasy is often "what have you done for me lately" and ASRB's solidifying himself with a great season, it's pretty easy to see why his value has declined from a year ago.

I don’t think it was at all a concern if you at all follow what the HC and GM were saying. There was no need to rush him back AT ALL. It’s obvious they eased him in slowly and they have bigger plans for him. Going back to the draft Holmes described him as ‘not only a wide receiver 1, but an absolute dog that loves to play football’. Said they didn’t move up for a wide receiver they moved up for him specifically as he’s not only a potential star but a potential star that has the correct mentality.

I also think it was clear what ARSB was before this season started, tbh. Anyways, your most likely correct in highlighting what other peoples thinking might be, even if it doesn’t align with mine.

 

[Blick]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

I know what you mean...probably clearer to say that because he played, we now know the ACL is in the rear-view mirror...which was the most important thing for him in 2022...how he loses value after that makes zero sense to me.

Pretty simple really, very few people are scared of ACL's these days so healing up really wasn't that big a concern for his value. It was mildly concerning that it took him longer to come back than originally anticipated, but that was alleviated once he got on the field. What's a bigger concern now is that once healthy he played 6 games and averaged less than 2 targets a game and caught 1 pass that counted officially. That is massively disappointing for a highly drafted 1st round WR. Maybe it was because they were bringing him along slowly or he wasn't 100% yet, or maybe it's because of more fundamental issues? We can't say for sure right now and that breeds uncertainty. An even bigger factor is you couple that with ASRB's ascension and the odds of Jameson taking over as the WR1 went down considerably from a year ago when many thought ASRB was a volume fluke due to being the only Detroit WR option in '21.

I don't agree with those podcast guys that you just dump him for any 1st or give up on him. With more time to heal and a full offseason he may yet overtake ASRB or they may become the next Chase and Higgins. Jameson did flash special talent in college. But given that fantasy is often "what have you done for me lately" and ASRB's solidifying himself with a great season, it's pretty easy to see why his value has declined from a year ago.

I don’t think it was at all a concern if you at all follow what the HC and GM were saying. There was no need to rush him back AT ALL. It’s obvious they eased him in slowly and they have bigger plans for him. Going back to the draft Holmes described him as ‘not only a wide receiver 1, but an absolute dog that loves to play football’. Said they didn’t move up for a wide receiver they moved up for him specifically as he’s not only a potential star but a potential star that has the correct mentality.

I also think it was clear what ARSB was before this season started, tbh. Anyways, your most likely correct in highlighting what other peoples thinking might be, even if it doesn’t align with mine.

I'm not sure I can get on the Jameson train. ASRB is putting up historic numbers. He's still going to get his. Detroit fought for a playoff spot. If Jameson could have been a difference maker, I can't believe they wouldn't have let him do his thing. I think he was either still not right (concerning) or not that good (very concerning). I see major red flags.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I still think he's going to be exceptional.
I paid the 1.06 for him last year and I'm not selling for less than that now.

 

[Boston]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

No idea why people do this. Why even draft him last year?

Furthermore, was listening to a dynasty podcast the other week and it was talking about collating draft picks and getting liquid so you can make moves in season. The two guys said “Jameson Williams yes trade away for a first, instant re-roll”. I was just like why ??? You’ve spent a mid to late first on him, know he won’t play, he’s got fit, flashed, why would you do that it makes no sense ?? I tweeted both of them asking and neither replied

Flashed? Not sure about that. If you liked him enough last year to take him in the top 7 or so, there’s probably no reason to move him for a 23 1st unless you need a RB.

By that, I mean when he got the ball he looked great, albeit they eased him back in very slowly. 40 yard rush, 1st caught pass a TD, long TD called back against Packers etc. maybe wrong use of the word.

I know what you mean...probably clearer to say that because he played, we now know the ACL is in the rear-view mirror...which was the most important thing for him in 2022...how he loses value after that makes zero sense to me.

Pretty simple really, very few people are scared of ACL's these days so healing up really wasn't that big a concern for his value. It was mildly concerning that it took him longer to come back than originally anticipated, but that was alleviated once he got on the field. What's a bigger concern now is that once healthy he played 6 games and averaged less than 2 targets a game and caught 1 pass that counted officially. That is massively disappointing for a highly drafted 1st round WR. Maybe it was because they were bringing him along slowly or he wasn't 100% yet, or maybe it's because of more fundamental issues? We can't say for sure right now and that breeds uncertainty. An even bigger factor is you couple that with ASRB's ascension and the odds of Jameson taking over as the WR1 went down considerably from a year ago when many thought ASRB was a volume fluke due to being the only Detroit WR option in '21.

I don't agree with those podcast guys that you just dump him for any 1st or give up on him. With more time to heal and a full offseason he may yet overtake ASRB or they may become the next Chase and Higgins. Jameson did flash special talent in college. But given that fantasy is often "what have you done for me lately" and ASRB's solidifying himself with a great season, it's pretty easy to see why his value has declined from a year ago.

I don’t think it was at all a concern if you at all follow what the HC and GM were saying. There was no need to rush him back AT ALL. It’s obvious they eased him in slowly and they have bigger plans for him. Going back to the draft Holmes described him as ‘not only a wide receiver 1, but an absolute dog that loves to play football’. Said they didn’t move up for a wide receiver they moved up for him specifically as he’s not only a potential star but a potential star that has the correct mentality.

I also think it was clear what ARSB was before this season started, tbh. Anyways, your most likely correct in highlighting what other peoples thinking might be, even if it doesn’t align with mine.

Agreed...I am just not that concerned with how he was used this year and I don't think there are many Dynasty Owners that drafted him with a first round pick thinking he would contribute in 2022...as you said, it was all about getting back on the field with an eye towards 2023...IMO the fantasy clock starts ticking in 2023 but the good news is 2022 alleviated the fear of his recovery lingering.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

So some one drafted Williamson knowing his rookie season would be a red-shirt year, and then sold at a loss?
Makes sense.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

So some one drafted Williamson knowing his rookie season would be a red-shirt year, and then sold at a loss?
Makes sense.

People have short attention spans?

Unfortunately the Williams owner in my league did not.

 

[DropKick]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

So some one drafted Williamson knowing his rookie season would be a red-shirt year, and then sold at a loss?
Makes sense.

There were unrealistic expectations around Jameson in 2022. I recall one poster saying the "worst case is he misses 5 games (PUP)". Reality check - even by the end of the season, he was les than a year removed from the ACL injury. I was of the opinion that its should be a true red shirt season but they felt he could get on the field with six weeks left. I'm glad he stayed healthy. I would say they accomplished their initial objective of getting him acclimated to the league. How much more did they really expect?

In limited snaps, we saw three big plays. The first TD was really blown coverage. He also had about a 40 yard run and a ~65 TD called back (holding). The Lions, as a team, were much more competitive and prolific on offense. Plenty of reasons to be bullish on Jameson.

 

[barackdhouse]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

So some one drafted Williamson knowing his rookie season would be a red-shirt year, and then sold at a loss?
Makes sense.

I mentioned this above but it got lost in the shuffle - this owner wasn't the one who drafted him. Team was abandoned and new owner stepped in and presumably hates Williams.

 

[menobrown]

FFPC 1QB

I gave 1.12
I got Jameson Williams

Chiming in the great value. If Jameson were thrown back into this draft class I think he'd the favorite to be the WR1.

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Gave 1.07, 2024 (should be late 2024 first, Christian Watson and 2.04.

Got CMC, DK Metcalf and 3.10.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gave 1.07, 2024 (should be late 2024 first, Christian Watson and 2.04.

Got CMC, DK Metcalf and 3.10.

Do you feel like you need a shower?

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

He said he was interested in 1.07. I said I could he interested in CMC and DK. He sent me that. I loved it. Didn't want to take a chance of tinkering with it and have him pull the deal. I also have 1.01 and 1.10 still to go with Breece and Javonte.

 

[zaner75]

Some QB trades by the same team in a 14 team SF, start 8 (not involved)

Trade 1: Trades 3.14 for Jacoby Brissett
Trade 2: Trades 1.01 for Kyler Murray
Trade 3: Trades 2024 1st for Brock Purdy (also has Lance - whom he traded for in-season for what turned out to be 1.10)

 

[robb]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

 

[BeTheMatch]

Gave 1.07, 2024 (should be late 2024 first, Christian Watson and 2.04.

Got CMC, DK Metcalf and 3.10.

This is what I meant when I said people are insane when it comes to draft picks.

 

[JohnnyU]

Some QB trades by the same team in a 14 team SF, start 8 (not involved)

Trade 1: Trades 3.14 for Jacoby Brissett
Trade 2: Trades 1.01 for Kyler Murray
Trade 3: Trades 2024 1st for Brock Purdy (also has Lance - whom he traded for in-season for what turned out to be 1.10)

Even in SF I would trade Murray for Bijan Robinson and not give it a second thought.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Trade 2: Trades 1.01 for Kyler Murray

This one is interesting. Feels like an overpay, but only in the context of Bijan’s currently obscene value.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

I’m on the DJM side but it’s probably fair.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

I’m on the DJM side but it’s probably fair.

I wouldn’t be trading for Dalvin Cook, I would be selling him.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

I’m on the DJM side but it’s probably fair.

I wouldn’t be trading for Dalvin Cook, I would be selling him.

Exactly.

 

[Boston]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

Who are your RBs and WRs?

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Given I already have CMC, Breece and soon to be Bijan...

Gave Javonte, Isaiah Likely.

Got AJ Dillon, 2024 (likely early it seems), 2024 second.

 

[eighsse2]

Given I already have CMC, Breece and soon to be Bijan...

Gave Javonte, Isaiah Likely.

Got AJ Dillon, 2024 (likely early it seems), 2024 second.

That's a first rounder?? If so, well done.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Given I already have CMC, Breece and soon to be Bijan...

Gave Javonte, Isaiah Likely.

Got AJ Dillon, 2024 (likely early it seems), 2024 second.

Wow. That’s a nice pull.

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Yes first, sorry!! Thanks guys!!

 

[Boston]

Given I already have CMC, Breece and soon to be Bijan...

Gave Javonte, Isaiah Likely.

Got AJ Dillon, 2024 (likely early it seems), 2024 second.

I like what you did here...since you have Hall as well you now only have to worry about one ACL recovery and Javonte's injury seemed pretty serious...Dillon is a solid depth RB who can help any team and with CMac, Hall and Bijan he fits very nicely into your RB unit...those two picks are a very nice score, especially if you feel the #1 has a chance to be a good one...Likely can play but unless you have Andrews you can move on from him.

 

[Twenty-Four Eighty-Four]

Thanks! My thinking as well. I don't have Andrews so I felt fine getting rid of Isaiah Likely. And now I have a 24 first which I traded away earlier and it should be significantly better.

 

[menobrown]

Gave: DJ Moore, WR Carolina
for
Dalvin Cook, RB Minnesota

Gave too much or did I get a deal??

Sorry, don't like it, even if you have a RB need.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Ceedee Lamb should be the centrepiece of any rebuild.

Unless you are woefully under strength and desperately need to turn one body into several, or you are receiving a huge overpay (3x plus 1st round pick value), he shouldn't be sold.

 

[foxco]

Ceedee Lamb should be the centrepiece of any rebuild.

Unless you are woefully under strength and desperately need to turn one body into several, or you are receiving a huge overpay (3x plus 1st round pick value), he shouldn't be sold.

More or less agree. I traded for Lamb this year when I decided to rebuild mid-season. Gave ASB & Travis Kelce for Lamb, Nico Collins, Isaiah Likely, '23 1st (turned out to be 1.12) . Other team won the league thanks to Kelce so he's happy, and I feel pretty good about building around Lamb though maybe I overpaid a bit cause Kelce's freaking Kelce. Hopefully a win-win.

 

[BigAl21]

FFPC, 1 QB

Gave: 2.01, 2.11
Got: Javonte Williams

Little risky bc the injury but could pay off if he regains some of his old form.