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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (16 Viewers)
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Dez
Footballguy
I guess I jumped the shark on this one I unloaded Parris too soon on May 21st for a 4.01 in a 14 team league (Pick 43) and drafted Sean Tucker.
Boston
Footballguy
Nice cash-out on Mattison...Dynasty-wise I'm not sure how long his shelf life is and the bottom-line is prior to Cook being released a few weeks ago you couldn't deal him for close to this...even if Mattison ends up in a best-case scenario production-wise for a few years you should be able to get equal value to him with this pick...don't get greedy, take the #1 and don't look back.
Boston
Footballguy
For some reason I have always had a soft spot for Campbell and he is worth a roster spot at least thru the beginning of the season as he is showing signs of fantasy-life...on the surface the 3.12 doesn't look like anything special but when you put Musgrave's name to it, I like it...I don't see Campbell's upside being anything more than a backup so I would rather do the dice roll on Musgrave and hope you hit on a position that has been dicey of late.
titusbramble
Footballguy
I'm trying to move Campbell on my team given decent reports, mainly as a throw in to get a small incremental upgrade elsewhere, but not getting anything done
Boston
Footballguy
I think he'll be tough to move until he shows something in a game or two...he is one of those guys 1/2 the league has probably owned at some point because he has been such a tease.
eric rymer
Footballguy
16 team full IDP partial PPR. Keep 6 off / 8 def Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 1 ST
Roster:
Burrow, Goff
Rhamondre, Aaron Jones, Antonio Gibson
Chase, Godwin, Lazard, Gabe Davis
Pitts, Chig
Myles Garrett, TJ Watt, Reddick
Wagner, Werner, Ellis
Derwin James, Minkah, Jon Owens
Gave
Aaron Jones
1.13
2.13
Got:
Kenyon Drake
1.5
4.05
Roster:
Burrow, Goff
Rhamondre, Aaron Jones, Antonio Gibson
Chase, Godwin, Lazard, Gabe Davis
Pitts, Chig
Myles Garrett, TJ Watt, Reddick
Wagner, Werner, Ellis
Derwin James, Minkah, Jon Owens
Gave
Aaron Jones
1.13
2.13
Got:
Kenyon Drake
1.5
4.05
ffmail4me
Footballguy
That was exactly how I viewed the trade. I didn't move him for the 3.12 until 3.11 had picked and felt with my WR core (JJ, Jeudy, McLaurin, Jameson Williams, Diontae Johnson, Evans, Addison, Doubs) I could afford to move a non starter to improve my weaker TE core (Gesicki, McBride, Logan Thomas, Ertz) as I feel Musgrave could possibly become my #1 TE. Crazy thing was I ALMOST picked Musgrave with the 2.11 pick but took Bryce Young instead. I never figured Musgrave would fall that far.
Boston
Footballguy
Fantastic "on the clock" move...and you gotta love getting a guy a round later after you almost took him.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Interesting format. When are keepers declared?
WHat was the purpose of the trade for you?
The way I see it, it nets you a guy like Addison/Johnson/Flowers at the expense of a K Miller / C Brown type. You're now awful thin at RB, though. I get the idea of getting value for Jones now, but I'm not sure this helps your team now or in the future.
eric rymer
Footballguy
All very fair questions and concerns. July 31 is the keeper deadline. I’m legit concerned about Godwin with Mayfield at QB. But you’re exactly right about who I’m targeting. I’m generally the most active on the waivers and FA pickup. I have a few other RB’s I like and will make a secondary move later. Young WR’s carry a higher premium for me. There are a couple teams that have rb’s that I can make a move for post draft.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I like your thought process. If you can flip Godwin for a mid first (think charbonnet) or a promising 2nd year rb, you've won.
opensourcebeer
Footballguy
Start 1 QB, PPR, Bestball
Team A gave: Brock Purdy
Team B gave: Nico Collins
Team A gave: Dionte Johnson, Isaiah Hodgins, 2024 3rd (early)
Team B gave: 2024 1st (mid-late)
Team A gave: Brock Purdy
Team B gave: Nico Collins
Team A gave: Dionte Johnson, Isaiah Hodgins, 2024 3rd (early)
Team B gave: 2024 1st (mid-late)
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Colliins and easily the 2024 1st.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
1. I think I'd rather stash Purdy on the bench than Collins
2. Dionte continues to be grossly undervalued. He's the new Kenan Allen.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Concur
Spookytooth
Footballguy
12 tm ppr dynasty 1 qb deep 27 man rosters but switching to super flex 2025.
Traded Love, Dotson, Bigsby, late 24 second for devonta smith and early-mid 24 first. Thoughts??
Traded Love, Dotson, Bigsby, late 24 second for devonta smith and early-mid 24 first. Thoughts??
sheerterror
Footballguy
Not enough for Bijan
Da Franchise
Footballguy
FFPC
Gave: Pitts, Olave
Got: Garrett Wilson, Mattison, Juwan Johnson, early 24 2nd
Gives me a lineup of
Burrow
Bijan
Mattison
Jefferson
Chase
Lamb
Wilson
Hockenson
Gave: Pitts, Olave
Got: Garrett Wilson, Mattison, Juwan Johnson, early 24 2nd
Gives me a lineup of
Burrow
Bijan
Mattison
Jefferson
Chase
Lamb
Wilson
Hockenson
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
I believe I favor the Pitts / Olave side, even though I like Wilson. I'm not a Mattison truther.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
With Hock on your roster, Pitts is expendable. Gimme Wilson, Mattison and the 2nd. You're in a great spot to compete NOW.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
In terms of value I agree. I’ve been trying to get Wilson from this guy since January and this was what I had to do to get him. I’m not really a Mattison truther either but I did need an RB2. Got a bunch of guys like Penny, Foreman, Ford, etc.
End of the day, I think Wilson is a true stud whereas Olave I view as a really good dynasty WR2 type. And Pitts I still believe in, but I don’t expect it to happen this year. This is me shoving my chips in a little bit.
efactor
Footballguy
Why? Not saying you're wrong, but they were drafted back to back, put up similar rookie numbers with Olave having 28 less targets. Almost identical size and speed.
I don't own either (unfortunately and trying to get one of them) but Wilson seems to be getting a lot more love. Asked this same question in the dynasty discussion thread.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Probably cause Rodgers gives him 350 point potential
efactor
Footballguy
Adams had a great FF season with Carr last year. Not like all top FF WRs have elite QBs.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
In a word, physicality.
Want to make it clear that I really like Olave. He has finesse to his routes, great speed, hands, yac, all of it. Really really like him but I just don’t see him as a guy that you should funnel 150+ targets to every year and work your red zone offense through. And there’s also a chance that Michael Thomas comes back from the dead and if that happens it puts a lower ceiling on a ceiling that I already think is a little low. I see him as a guy that will throw up 200-250 points year after year and that’s awesome. Like a younger McLaurin in terms of production, who is criminally undervalued.
Wilson on the other hand is my #3 ranked WR for dynasty and I think there’s a decent to good chance he could ascend to the god tier with JJ and Chase this season. He’s just a much different player to my eyeballs than Olave. I didn’t have any kind of strong conviction between the two as rookies last year but after watching them a year in the league, I do now. You can be a great receiver and still not throw up monster stats but to me Wilson is that PLUS a guy a team should force the ball to, over and over, especially near the end zone. Add in Rodgers who I’m convinced will play two years with the Jets and I just see a pretty big chasm between the two. And it’s no shade on Olave at all. He’s damn good.
I try not to make heavy player takes very often because that seems like a bad recipe to me, but when I do I go all in and it’s generally worked very well for me. My hit rate has been very high on those high confidence plays so I’m just going to keep leaning into it on the rare occasions they happen. Wilson is my biggest buy this year. He’s not cheap at all, but I still think he’s undervalued and about to go bonkers this season. Like WR1 overall production is definitely within his reach.
As for this trade for this specific team, I just locked down my top 4 ranked dynasty WRs in JJ, Chase, Wilson, and Lamb. Think people throw around long range estimates way too haphazardly but legit I think those 4 are WR1 contenders for the next 6-7 seasons. There’s immense value to that because I don’t even need to try to chase WRs and can focus those efforts on the running back roulette wheel instead. I really wanted to get this done without giving up Pitts but end of the day, the MCL worries me a tad, I don’t think he’s blowing up this year because of QB and system, and if he doesn’t have a big year his value is going to drop quite a bit. Plus I have Hockenson and Juwan is a guy that I like a lot and view as more than a throw in. Like I can envision a world where Juwan out scores Pitts this year. It’s maybe 10-15% chance, but it’s possible.
That’s a lot of info but you asked a real question so I’m giving a real answer. I could be dead wrong. But I’ve long decided that when I have strong conviction in this game, I must act. I’d rather lose because of being wrong than lose because I didn’t make the move I really really wanted to make.
Plus it’s fun lol.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
If Achane is available at 1.08, I disagree.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
12team .5ppr TE premium.
Team A:
CMC, David Monty, Micheal Pittman, ‘24 3rd
Team B:
Breece, Dameon Pierce, ‘24 1st
Team B also had Jaymir Gibbs, making David Montgomery more valuable.
Who wins
Team A:
CMC, David Monty, Micheal Pittman, ‘24 3rd
Team B:
Breece, Dameon Pierce, ‘24 1st
Team B also had Jaymir Gibbs, making David Montgomery more valuable.
Who wins
kutta
Footballguy
I think Breece and CMC are close, but I’ll take CMC. But Pierce and the 1st aren’t enough to make up the difference, so I’ll take the Breece side.
Interesting trade. Any idea where that first will be?
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Solid roster. After getting CMC I’d project that team to be one of 3 favorites - so likely a bottom pick in the first. 9th-12th overall
kutta
Footballguy
Even late, I still think I like the Breece side but it’s really close.
I just don’t have a lot of interest in Monty, Pittman, or a 3rd. I think the ancillary pieces make me lean toward the Breece side.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I wouldn't touch Achane at 1.08.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Breece side pretty easily for me. I would rather have Breece over CMac, Pierce over Monty and a 1st over Pittman and a 3rd.
Boston
Footballguy
Nice move...Dotson is very intriguing and all you did was nibble around the edges of your assets to get him...Davis can still bounce back but right now he is not someone I am giving up a quality asset for...the two picks are legit but when you combine it all together this is not much to give up for a 23-year-old WR who looked really promising as a rookie and could really turn into something very solid...I don't understand why the other guy would do this.
I think in BB that Davis is a very nice player and has a big increase in value for that format. For me, this trade will depend on team construction and whether or not I need a boom/bust guy or a higher floor/consistent guy.
Boston
Footballguy
Actually I missed that part and don’t do best ball…is that because he has big weeks? If so, Dotson looks like the type that will have big weeks as well with a chance to be more consistent.
yes, Davis is the type of player where you never know when to play him but at the end of the year he seems to have been a solid player. Until you realize half of his points came in two games. It's great for best ball but terrible for weekly lineups.
Dotson may have the potential but the QB situation is still a bit sketchy so I wonder how often those will be. I do think he is a solid WR though.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Man those five team leagues are really heating up
Blick
Footballguy
Very, very cheap for Wilson.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Strange trade…SF at least I hope?
Boston
Footballguy
Waste of one of the best Dynasty assets out there.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I think Dobbins is going to have a good year, so it may turn out better than people think, but I prefer the Wilson side.
