BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
14 team .. no PPR
Penny, Bateman, and 2024 2nd Round Pick (late)
for
Aaron Jones
Penny, Bateman, and 2024 2nd Round Pick (late)
for
Aaron Jones
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (30 Viewers)
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Purdy and not close but I’ve never been on the Jamo wagon.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
If you have nobody at RB, you probably need to aim higher than Spears.
MTskibum
Footballguy
I also had 2.02 and 2.04 and took Achane and Kendra Miller and I will continue to try and get young backups/RBBC candidates.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I then gave 2024 2nd & 3rd
I got 2.08 OTC and took Roschon Johnson (hadn't heard that he missed practice today so that's fun)
I gave Nico Collins, 3.19
I got 2.10 OTC and took Tank Bigsby
Birdie048
Footballguy
Now admittedly, I don't do SF ... not limber enuf, but give me Bijan... the pick is gravy.
Burrow hurt, Chase having "domestic" ruffles making a new contract discussion complicated,
Not a bad deal by any means ... but I would prefer Bijan
Not sure I could make a deal giving up either of them .... hard choice.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I'm confused. Are you rebuilding or contending. There really isn't much of a middle ground...well, there is and it's a bad place to be in dynasty football. My point (and I'm not trying to come after you at all) is that Spears, Achane, and Miller aren't the kind of guys you want to count on to roll into a contending season. All 3 are the kind of guys you want stashed on you bench in the hopes that you can get 1 of them to play at a RB2/Flex level. If you're rebuilding, I totally get it.
MTskibum
Footballguy
If I can hit on some runningbacks then I can be contending, if I don't then I am still rebuilding. I am young at every other position and I have above average WR's. I should be close to the tail end of my rebuild.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Gotcha. My point is that hitting on one of those 3 guys is a longshot at best. Assuming one hits, he's likely a RB2/Flex play. The odds of hitting on one of those guys to be a RB1 play is pretty astronomical. Back to the original point, packaging Sutton, picks and maybe another player for a RB1 or a young, high upside RB2 kinda guy might have made more sense for contention. All that said, I don't know your league dynamics nor the roster builds.
MTskibum
Footballguy
I typically do ~5 trades in my other dynasty leagues ever year, I am surprised I managed 2 trades which gives me 2 out of the 4 trades in this dynasty league this year. This was a rebuild I took over quite some time ago, where the previous owner left me with only a single asset worth any value at all and no 1st and 2nd picks for the first 2 years I had ownership of the team.
I have tried to send out some offers for the cheaper RB 2s like Gibson, Perine, Aaron Jones, etc. But I got ridiculous counter offers in return.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I like what you did and disagree with Ditka's take on your rebuilding v contending status and I don't think you have to find a RB1 to contend. I think Sutton is a scrub and although I am not big on Spears I like this trade a lot in terms of going after your guy.
My main disagreement is that I don't think this trade is big enough to matter one way or another. I don't think it matters one bit whether you think you are a contender or a rebuilder, or whether you actually are, this trade is still a good one.
wlwiles
Footballguy
Congrats on identifying the owner in your league that's 2 months behind on NFL news and doesn't know Dalvin got released yet.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I think you stole candy from a baby. Now I don't know much @ 10 Team SF, but wow!
Geno has come around and is in a good system for his skills. ETN & a 1st are bonus.
Murray is still uncertain when he will see the field again and Diggs is making noise about his situation (not long in Buff IMO).
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
On the flip side, Geno is 32, Etienne's 1st season back after a brutal lisfranc injury/surgery he posted a pedestrian 66 yards rushing and 2 catches/20 yards receiving per game (barely RB1 stats in a 10 player league). Dulcich looks promising and the 1st is great to have, but I don't think this trade is as much of a slam dunk. To be fair, I think the OP 'won' this trade, but it really depends on contending vs rebuilding.
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
12 Team PPR Dynasty - 1 QB
Team A receives:
Josh Allen
Jaylen Waddle
Team B receives:
Trevor Lawrence
DK Metcalf
Christian Watson
Team A receives:
Josh Allen
Jaylen Waddle
Team B receives:
Trevor Lawrence
DK Metcalf
Christian Watson
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Fair. Allen/Waddle comfortably unless I’m rebuilding. Although I’d have different targets in mind if I was rebuilding and this deal wouldn’t happen.
rockaction
Footballguy
Also fair, and give me the Lawrence/Watson/DK side. I roster both receivers and Lawrence dropped 3.96 points on me in the championship game last year (thank you, Trevor!), so I'm biased.
I don't think Lawrence is going to give you too many 3.96 games in the future.
Who is Allen throwing to again this year?
I don't know. Fair.
I don't think Lawrence is going to give you too many 3.96 games in the future.
Who is Allen throwing to again this year?
I don't know. Fair.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
No offense intended here but I really don’t like your side at all. 10 team 2 QB leagues demand studs to win. I don’t see you getting anything remotely close to a stud or difference maker and that’s even if I raise my low expectations of Rachaad all the way up to market value. And with Bijan/Gibbs you really don’t need to be adding dead zone RBs, especially at this stage of the season. IMO it would be much wiser to keep the picks, see how the season shapes up, and spend them midseason to plug holes or upgrade a starter if you’re in the mix. This is an evergreen take.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Not going to argue your take, but the answer to your question is “the same guys as the last two years, plus Kincaid”. Personally I think their offense is sagging in general post Daboll, but there’s no getting around how elite for fantasy Allen is regardless of real life appraisal of his play.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I thought of my own answer, but what if Diggs really chases his own tail out of town? Then you're looking at a helicopter QB (no wings).
I guess I just see that extra receiver on the come-up and think that it's worth the risk. Everybody else's mileage gonna vary.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Probably gonna be an unpopular trade, but I'm a decidedly non-contender working on a 2 year plan to contention.
Superflex, PPR, TEP
Gave: Trevor Lawrence
Got: Pickett, Rhamondre, Mingo
I'm gambling that Fields will be my #1 QB and that Pickett will fill the role as a solid #2. So I traded down in QB value to get a sorely needed RB and some promising youth at WR.
Superflex, PPR, TEP
Gave: Trevor Lawrence
Got: Pickett, Rhamondre, Mingo
I'm gambling that Fields will be my #1 QB and that Pickett will fill the role as a solid #2. So I traded down in QB value to get a sorely needed RB and some promising youth at WR.
Birdie048
Footballguy
I like it but I have to question what with Rham's value be in 2025?
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
That is a good question. My take is that he'll be a 27 YO RB with 4 seasons under his belt. He will likely still have some tread on the tires and into a good groove with the Pats. All that said, Ole Bill is still his coach, so there's a good bit of risk with him. He'll be a UFA in the 2025 season, so either he signs a 2-3 year deal as the workhorse for the Pats or gets a similar term deal with another team that uses backs differently.
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't play Superflex so won't comment, but any time you're starting with this sentence clause, one has to wonder if you even think you got market value for what you gave up, never mind what we think.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Plus if he's productive (and he will be), he's a nice trade chip for you if you want to go in that direction.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Team B was League champ last season. The dust hasn't settled on Cook yet and he may wind up with 2 starting RB. It's somewhat a gamble though, no doubt.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Understandable. I think I got better than market value FOR THIS SITUATION, but can understand the idea that "elite" QBs are nearly untradeable in SF....hence the starting sentence.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Just make sure you trade Rhamondre to a contender during the season for a 1st round pick or some such and it’s fine. Love Mingo.
Allen > Lawrence. Overall I still like Allen weapons better.
Waddle > Metcalf. One is on up and other more down
watson does not make up for losses.
Made some deals in various FFPC, 1QB leagues recently
Gave: Waller, Montgomery
Got: 2024 1st
Gave: LaPorta
Got: 2024 2nd
Gave: Waller, Tyreek Hill
Got; Mark Andrews
Gave: McCaffrey, Mitchell
Got: Olave, 3rd
Gave: Najee, Roschom Johnson
Got: 2024 1st and 2nd
Gave: Deandre Swift
Got: 2024 1st
Gave: McCaffrey
Got: Justin Herbert, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Overall the trend is moving RBs at this point opening roster spots and back load with other RBs when wire opens up
Gave: Waller, Montgomery
Got: 2024 1st
Gave: LaPorta
Got: 2024 2nd
Gave: Waller, Tyreek Hill
Got; Mark Andrews
Gave: McCaffrey, Mitchell
Got: Olave, 3rd
Gave: Najee, Roschom Johnson
Got: 2024 1st and 2nd
Gave: Deandre Swift
Got: 2024 1st
Gave: McCaffrey
Got: Justin Herbert, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Overall the trend is moving RBs at this point opening roster spots and back load with other RBs when wire opens up
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
NIce moves. I especially like the McCaffrey and Waller gives. I suspect you probably could have gotten a bit more out of Najee and Roschon, but I'm high on Roschon for 2024 and I often wear Bears colored glasses.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
14 team .. no ppr
Contender receives: Tyreek Hill
Rebuild receives: Hollywood Brown, 2024 1st (late), 2025 1st (late)
Contender receives: Tyreek Hill
Rebuild receives: Hollywood Brown, 2024 1st (late), 2025 1st (late)
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That’s pretty good exit value for Hill - it’s possible that those picks don’t even end up late, as things happen.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I don’t love the trade, so you’re correct there.
For one, any time I see the term “2 year rebuild” and one of the assets obtained is a 25 y/o RB, I’m already a little down on it.
I love RS, made him my 3.16 RB1 (4th player) in a dynasty start-up. But as part of a rebuild I’d be looking to move RBs, not acquire them, unless they’re Bijan, maybe Hall.
That brings me to my 2nd concern, which is market value for TLaw in a SF format. I just don’t think you got enough for him in Pickett, Mingo, & RS. It’s short by an early-to-mid 1st at a glance, and even then I’d want a better WR than Mingo coming back. If it were Pickett, RS, Higgins & a 1st? Yeah - all day. But as someone who recently paid significantly more for TLaw (in a 16 team league though) I feel like your return for arguably a top 4 dynasty QB is light.
At the end of the day perfect deals can’t always be worked out, which I totally understand. You’re at the mercy of the market in your own league’s fishbowl economy, so sometimes what you can get is what you can get.
But I don’t love it. I’d probably be trying to flip RS to see if you can turn a little profit there.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
2 firsts is fairly solid value for Hill with or without Hollywood
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like all of your moves but this one.
I don’t see why one moves LaPorta for a 2nd when his value could easily jump with even 1 productive game. Dude hasn’t played a snap yet.
Everything else made sense to me. This one stood out as being a little counterproductive.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
2 firsts is a lot to give for a WR who is almost 30
I agree. I went to try and see if I could get LaPorta for a 2 but it didn’t work lol
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Most spent a high 2nd for him. Best I can figure this is getting some value before small roster cut downs.
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
14 team ... no ppr
Aaron Jones traded for 2nd time this week in our league.
Aaron Jones and 2023 2nd round pick - 2.09
for
Dobbins and Perine (Javonte owner)
Aaron Jones traded for 2nd time this week in our league.
Aaron Jones and 2023 2nd round pick - 2.09
for
Dobbins and Perine (Javonte owner)
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Unloading an aging RB for a younger player with upside is something I love doing. Dobbins side for me, even with the uncertainty of his situation.
Had a Tyreek trade in a league of mine yesterday.
Standard FFPC:
Tyreek, Friermuth and a 2023 #3
For
Mingo(chosen 10th), Gabe Davis, Jameson Williams, Kmet and a 2024#2
Super weak return IMO and as a side note I traded Tyreek to the team who just unloaded him back in January for pick 1.2.
My favorite trade you made was getting the 2024#1 for Swift.
My least favorite was giving up LaPorta for a future second.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I don't like the value on CMC here. I have Tyreek > Andrews or pretty close to equal so I call that a free Waller. I don't like Najee but I like Roschon so that one is probably dependent on where the pick is but I'd like go picks side. The others ones I didn't list are gonna depend on teams needs, pick projection, etc but all looked fair.
