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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (20 Viewers)
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BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
14 Team - No PPR - start 1 QB
Last week I traded Aaron Jones for Love and 2024 High 2nd Round Pick ..
RBs -Jones was my 5th RB behind CMC, Henry, Barkley, Jacobs, Stevenson and JWilliams.
QBs- Mahomes and Goff
Now:
Gave: Love and Lazard
Got: Pacheco, Nacua and 2024 1st Round Pick - mid to late
Last week I traded Aaron Jones for Love and 2024 High 2nd Round Pick ..
RBs -Jones was my 5th RB behind CMC, Henry, Barkley, Jacobs, Stevenson and JWilliams.
QBs- Mahomes and Goff
Now:
Gave: Love and Lazard
Got: Pacheco, Nacua and 2024 1st Round Pick - mid to late
Neal Cassady
Footballguy
Dynasty 10 team .5 PPR league start 2 Wr’s and usually another WR in flex. My team was high scorer last year and definitely could win it all this year. Need a third WR badly. Right now Pittman is that guy.
Would you rather have Pittman or London? London owner is a huge Colts fan, and I can’t think of a better time to reach out for London after this past weekend.
Thanks in advance
Would you rather have Pittman or London? London owner is a huge Colts fan, and I can’t think of a better time to reach out for London after this past weekend.
Thanks in advance
TartanLion
Footballguy
Tbh I’d rather have Pittman
sheerterror
Footballguy
Pittman owner and it's crazy to think of the way their values have flipped after 1 week. Before the season you'd probably have needed to add a 2nd+ to Pittman to get London IMO.
Neal Cassady
Footballguy
But in dynasty, where London is 3.5 years younger, I’m torn on whose future looks brighter. Arthur Smith and Ridder won’t be there forever..I hope. But you are right, a week ago I’d bet people would say London over Pittman in dynasty, although maybe not.
Total steal off of the little data we now have
heckmanm
Footballguy
With our league structure, Dell can be kept for 2 years before having to use a contract slot due to when he was drafted. Whereas Puka was drafted later and will have to be given one of my 7 available contracts starting in 2024. So that factored in.
I have Kupp on IR, and given his injuries the last couple years and his age, I felt it was worth giving up the extra years.
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
.5 PPR / QB-RB-RB-WR-WR-TE-FLEX
to contender: Dameon Pierce + early '24 3rd
to rebuild: Sutton + late '24 1st
to contender: Dameon Pierce + early '24 3rd
to rebuild: Sutton + late '24 1st
BearsFan4Life
Footballguy
14 Team .. No PPR
Sold high!
Gave: Love
Got: Etienne
Sold high!
Gave: Love
Got: Etienne
FFPC best ball superflex
Gave: Zach Wilson
Got: 2024 R2
My team is tanking, and the fact that I still had Wilson on my roster is an indication of how bad my QBs are. The team with Rodgers had only Taysom Hill at QB, so I made the offer and he snap accepted, which surprised me, but I'll take it!
Gave: Zach Wilson
Got: 2024 R2
My team is tanking, and the fact that I still had Wilson on my roster is an indication of how bad my QBs are. The team with Rodgers had only Taysom Hill at QB, so I made the offer and he snap accepted, which surprised me, but I'll take it!
Birdie048
Footballguy
12 Team 1 QB PPR TE-P
I am finishing up my rebuild to be competitive for 2024
I gave up: Min RB A Mattison & Den WR C Sutton
I got back: NOS RB A Kamara & Clev WR E Moore
Calcs say even but I like it for me. I have Kupp on IR & Kendre Miller sitting so this adds to my start to rise Week 5
Sitting 1-0 thanks to TLaw & Ridley duo
I am finishing up my rebuild to be competitive for 2024
I gave up: Min RB A Mattison & Den WR C Sutton
I got back: NOS RB A Kamara & Clev WR E Moore
Calcs say even but I like it for me. I have Kupp on IR & Kendre Miller sitting so this adds to my start to rise Week 5
Sitting 1-0 thanks to TLaw & Ridley duo
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Just made a massive deal in my $1250 FFPC Triflex. Might be biggest deal I’ve ever made.
Gave: Jefferson, Pollard, Kamara (also threw in my drops, MVS and Parham)
Got: Purdy, Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Mims, Khalil Herbert, 2nd, 3rd (presumably late, he has a great roster)
I lost Rodgers and had no other real QB for my flex (Mahomes QB1). Went super young in our startup last month and felt like I had no chance of being in the money this year, so this is a pure value play for next year.
Other roster notables: Mahomes, Dotson, Eli Moore, Rashee Rice, Mingo, LaPorta, Dulcich, Achane, Charbonnet, Atwell, Hodgins, Tucker
Thoughts?
Gave: Jefferson, Pollard, Kamara (also threw in my drops, MVS and Parham)
Got: Purdy, Garrett Wilson, Zay Flowers, Mims, Khalil Herbert, 2nd, 3rd (presumably late, he has a great roster)
I lost Rodgers and had no other real QB for my flex (Mahomes QB1). Went super young in our startup last month and felt like I had no chance of being in the money this year, so this is a pure value play for next year.
Other roster notables: Mahomes, Dotson, Eli Moore, Rashee Rice, Mingo, LaPorta, Dulcich, Achane, Charbonnet, Atwell, Hodgins, Tucker
Thoughts?
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Flip Kamara for something and I love it.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Could be good for either side. I figure even if Wilson is bad which seems likely, he’s probably a low QB2. Obviously his QBs are bad but if he’s loaded elsewhere might be okay.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
In a vacuum, I think that's light for JJ. Getting back G Wilson is great, but I wouldn't count on him as your WR1 if you're trying to compete this year. Heck, maybe even next year as well. Love the guy's talent, hate his CURRENT situation.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
“Went super young in our startup last month and felt like I had no chance of being in the money this year, so this is a pure value play for next year”.
Don’t like it even if you aren’t competing this year. A 1st short and I still not into doing it. If you really feel non competent I’ve then trades Pollard alone (RB shelf life) would have made more sense to me. Everyone needs RB help and he alone could have gotten you some nice young WR assets while keeping the best non QB asset in Fantasy. Sold low on both JJ and Pollard IMO
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Based on your trade history in our league that you crashed, burned and left in short order, I appreciate this answer lol.
Bought that team off orphan page at FFPC; played a year basically free and sold for small profit on DD? Yup that’s the one. You made a bad trade here IMO. You clearly like the move or you wouldn’t have done it, but don’t get all mad when you post for opinions and then people disagree with you. Seems childish. Who moves Jefferson in a rebuild. That’s the real lol here.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Not mad at all bro. Be well.
dschuler
Footballguy
16 team PPR Superflex
Got: Chris Olave / Mac Jones
Sent: Romeo Doubs / Elijiah Moore / 1st round / 2nd Round.
I have 8 good young WRs so I have no problem trading up here. I think Mac Jones will be a starter in the league for at least the next three years but maybe much longer. Not a bad QB3 only 25.
12 team PPR superflex
Got: Christian Watson / 2024 3rd Round
Sent: 2024 1st (hopefully last pick) / Joshua Kelley
Trying to win now, hopefully Watson comes back fully healthy. Don’t really need the next few weeks with Kelley because I’m projected to win big this week and will be 2-0. Looking at roster for playoffs.
Got: Chris Olave / Mac Jones
Sent: Romeo Doubs / Elijiah Moore / 1st round / 2nd Round.
I have 8 good young WRs so I have no problem trading up here. I think Mac Jones will be a starter in the league for at least the next three years but maybe much longer. Not a bad QB3 only 25.
12 team PPR superflex
Got: Christian Watson / 2024 3rd Round
Sent: 2024 1st (hopefully last pick) / Joshua Kelley
Trying to win now, hopefully Watson comes back fully healthy. Don’t really need the next few weeks with Kelley because I’m projected to win big this week and will be 2-0. Looking at roster for playoffs.
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dschuler
Footballguy
You are way ahead, absolute fleecing in my opinion. Lazard is worthless now. I think Nacua will be worth a 1st by years end and Pacheco has some value. You basically got a young RB3/flex and young WR2, and a first round pick that might be another starting QB with more talent than love.
To be honest, if you aren’t going to be in the money I don’t see the need to have Purdy. I’m not sure how long he will be a starter or have value. There are some scenarios where I could see a QB change (Mac Jones / Kirk / Kyler / someone else). That’s a side point for the bigger point. If you aren’t getting in the money you need to get a top 3 pick and secure Caleb Williams or Drake Maye if you want another good QB1. Caleb is the surest great fantasy QB in quite some time. Drake Maye should be good for 12 years + as well. There is also the perfect rated High school recruit in Ewers with a huge arm, Bo Nix, Penix Jr and the possibility of Shadeur Sanders. Possible there are 8-9 QBs in the first round of the NFL draft, and a QB shakeup like we haven’t seen in several years all with great Superflex value. Assuming you draft one, what was the point of getting Purdy? So you basically traded Zay Flower Garrett Wilson and Mims for JJ , Pollard as Herbert will likely have little value after this season. I don’t think Zay and Garrett alone are worth JJ, let alone a 26 year old stud RB1. Garrett long term isn’t in a good offensive situation, especially if Saleh wins enough games to remain head coach (great for actual football, not a fan for fantasy). Mims has some value with Sean Payton drafting him high and only being 21 so there is potential for good value there. We really don’t know how much work Zay will get when Andrews is back and Bateman is finally fully healthy, plus Lamar has never had a season averaging 200 yards passing over a full season. How much of a pie can you really get with a max of 200 yards between a whole team?
I would have tried to not take Purdy and change the third round to a 1st round at a minimum and maybe pick up another young prospect. If he’s making a title run, it’s likely about the last pick and getting the unanimous #1 player at any position and top five RB. He’s not turning it down because it’s the last pick of the first round and both of those players are absolute rock stars with long term value. He should be really paying a premium to get a 24 year old first ballot future hall of famer. JJ will probably be very good for another 8 years and is in a terrific situation.
I don’t think you got fleeced, but think you could have gotten a little more since it’s only week 1. That being said I understand there aren’t a lot of teams with that much young talent to trade, and anytime you can sell a RB on a franchise tag at 80-90% value it’s never a bad trade.
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Just did both of these.
FFPC standard scoring but private run league with one adjustment in that we don't have K's and don't have to carry a D in the off-season so this basically means one extra roster spot in-season, two extra roster spots off-season then a typical FFPC league.
First trade:
Gave: Fields/Kmet
Got: Lamar
Kind of an odd trade for me in that this league poops on valuing QB's, only thing they value more then a good RB is a good TE, and most of all I already have/had Hurts/Watson so a two for one for a QB can be argued is not wise.
But I think once Lamar figures out the offense he's going to be a monster and I have Flowers so retained upgraded my hookup. Kmet was my #3TE, solid guy, not huge on him though he had some use to me for sure.
Second trade minutes after that:
Gave: Watson/Hunt/Tillman
Got: Charbonnet/Odell
I have Walker and like I said on the earlier trade this league puts a high value on RB's. I've never been a big Charb fan tbh but having Walker made it make sense as I only had 4 RB's of real long term value(Hunt was my 5th). Obviously don't have a major need for Watson as my third QB, though odds are at some point he'll move to #2 when Lamar or overused Hurts get injured.
Just to add on that second trade even with having Walker I wanted Spears instead of Charbs but could not do that.
FFPC standard scoring but private run league with one adjustment in that we don't have K's and don't have to carry a D in the off-season so this basically means one extra roster spot in-season, two extra roster spots off-season then a typical FFPC league.
First trade:
Gave: Fields/Kmet
Got: Lamar
Kind of an odd trade for me in that this league poops on valuing QB's, only thing they value more then a good RB is a good TE, and most of all I already have/had Hurts/Watson so a two for one for a QB can be argued is not wise.
But I think once Lamar figures out the offense he's going to be a monster and I have Flowers so retained upgraded my hookup. Kmet was my #3TE, solid guy, not huge on him though he had some use to me for sure.
Second trade minutes after that:
Gave: Watson/Hunt/Tillman
Got: Charbonnet/Odell
I have Walker and like I said on the earlier trade this league puts a high value on RB's. I've never been a big Charb fan tbh but having Walker made it make sense as I only had 4 RB's of real long term value(Hunt was my 5th). Obviously don't have a major need for Watson as my third QB, though odds are at some point he'll move to #2 when Lamar or overused Hurts get injured.
Just to add on that second trade even with having Walker I wanted Spears instead of Charbs but could not do that.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yo dudes,
Try putting a first initial at least with common last names.
I'm sitting here having no idea who you've traded until you start explaining the positions.
Best and cheers.
Try putting a first initial at least with common last names.
I'm sitting here having no idea who you've traded until you start explaining the positions.
Best and cheers.
Dez
Footballguy
Yep not looking so good as expected on this one. Was a hell of a take though one of those if you are right everyone says wow and if you are wrong everyone is well it wasn't a real take.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. We disagree on several things and I’ll try to lay them out briefly.
I was ahead of market on Purdy during the off-season, not wildly ahead, but definitely liked him more than consensus. My only hesitation was seeing how he rebounded from the injury because had that not occurred, would have been lapping the field on him. Week 1 assuaged any remaining doubts.
The Niners sunk a massive amount into addressing the position and by a total stroke of luck, they got their answer. Having already spent the picks they spent, finding a guy who took them to the NFC championship and will cost less than $1M per season for the next three years has me completely sold that he’s the guy for that duration, so long as he’s up to the task and I believe he is. Think he’s much better than Mac and Kyler anyway, and at a fraction of the cost it’s a no brainer. I also think he essentially IS Kirk Cousins, except tragically “Ken doll Kirk” was born without a clutch gene and Purdy was birthed a brass set. So we disagree pretty sharply here.
I also believe Wilson is Jefferson’s next door neighbor. Loved JJ coming out, moved aggressively for him as a rook and have him in almost every single league, just believe Wilson to be his peer and fully recognize how lofty that take is. Trust the QB situation to be sorted out by next year and also wonder what JJs is going to look like also. Don’t think KC returns. Are they going to pay JJ? I wonder. It’s the same org that traded Moss after all. JJ could well next year be in Wilson’s current predicament (although no predicament is as bad as playing with Zach).
And Flowers…I got no doubts about him. Would take Wilson and Flowers for JJ in a heartbeat just on pure value without accounting for roster considerations.
The rest is window dressing. The guy is difficult to deal with and was not going to include his 1st because of the deposit. I roll my eyes too but it is what it is. And yes, it’s going to be late, pick 10-12 type deal. My team just doesn’t have the horses after ARod to even luck into a $$ spot this year. That makes Pollard a ticking time bomb to me and the feelers I sent out for him were not warmly received. So bundling him with JJ for this return is very likely the best I could do. If I’d held until midseason, sure, maybe could do better, but rather take a little value hit now and remove the injury threat from the equation than roll the dice he stays up.
Mims and Herbert especially are guys I’ll look to move at some point. The 2nd and 3rd are nice to recoup as I spent my picks 1,2,3 in the startup to get Mahomes. So kinda stocking the cupboard a little with all of these guys and am by no means finished dealing. I trade a lot and these will be part of my ammo.
This doesn’t need to be some lengthy rebuild, I am super young and have a lot of attractive pieces. Getting a top 3 pick to acquire Caleb/Maye just did not seem in the cards. Things change though and will certainly be looking for ways to get into that range if possible. I’m far from done working on this team.
Thanks again for the thoughts. I ran this by a couple folks whose opinions I really value before finalizing and all three thought it was a very good deal for me based on my squad. I don’t usually check for input in advance but wanted sanity checks on such a huge deal. All three agreed with me so makes me feel really excited about it.
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Da Franchise
Footballguy
Nothing earth shattering about these but I like your rationale for both. My take on KW/Charb is well documented and think it’s smart to get both if you’re dabbling in that backfield. This was a cheap way to do it.
Fields is garbage. Have some concerns about Lamar but would happily pay a Kmet to find out.
Streetduck
Footballguy
12 team PPR, start 1Q, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2F (R/W/T), IDP (no Superflex, no TE premium)
Team A gave: Calvin Ridley
Team B gave: Deshaun Watson and 2024 2nd round pick
Team A gave: Calvin Ridley
Team B gave: Deshaun Watson and 2024 2nd round pick
Ridley
I personally think Kyle has found the QB he's always wanted to have and feel pretty strongly that Purdy will be tied with Kyle for years as the starting QB for SF and his value in both the real world and fantasy will continue to ascend, and rapidly.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah I usually like to take victory laps before week 2 myself. /s
No it isn't looking great though because Hockenson is definitely a beast. I have him in several redrafts and dynasties still. This one team from this trade did win in week 1 so I guess if we're going to declare everything concluded we might as well hand me the championship and we can all go home.
I'm starting Gesicki with moderate confidence tomorrow night against the Dolphins though. He is way behind the 8 ball to be able to keep pace with Hock at this point, but again I got paid a 2024 1st to put this take into action.
But if this one doesn't work out, I'm not the type to say it wasn't a real take, though yes that's what the crowd would likely say. I've ate plenty of crow on difficult takes that didn't pan out. Much if not most of my FF success has come from going against the grain so it's pretty normal for me.
Gesicki is one strange Miami season removed from >70 catches >700 yards.
Also, and I swear to God people don't want to give credit for this stuff but I said nearly identical production and that is not the same as identical. Somewhere in the back and forth on this original trade take I think I mentioned Gesicki as looking like he would finish as TE9-14, or thereabouts. I stand by that for now. But I thought Hock was going to be similar maybe a little higher (mostly based on the emergence of Addison) but now more like being in the running for TE1. And I mean on a per week basis because obviously Andrews and Kelce are in the running there.
Anyway, lots of time for Gesicki to make me a bigger fool still.
I don’t think you’ll know when Gesicki has top 10 TE weeks and 4 point weeks. Tough consistent start
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I think that is a bigger issue for RBs and WRs. With TE I don't really care because that is the way the TE position works unless you have a top tier guy. I'm willing to get paid the 2024 1st in this case to roll with a lower tier guy and deal with that inconsistency. I tend to hold onto studs and not move them. This deal was an outlier in that sense.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Ok now THATS a great trade. No clue what the other guy is thinking.
Blick
Footballguy
This is in a dynasty league???
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
16 team PPR
Gave
Pickens
2024 2nd (will be pick 10-16 most likely)
Received
Tee Higgins
Gave
Pickens
2024 2nd (will be pick 10-16 most likely)
Received
Tee Higgins
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dschuler
Footballguy
There are 18 QBs in the next draft with a grade of 80 or higher and 6 graded as high as Anthony Richardson. Potentially 9 first round graded QBs next year and the deepest QB draft class of all time by a wide margin. Basically, there is a good chance they draft a QB this year. The CBS mock draft taken last week had them drafting a first round QB with the 29th pick. If the Patriots move on from Mac Jones or Vikings from Cousins, they could make a move.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
JamboTaylor
Footballguy
Kenneth Walker
For
Puka Nacua
24 1st
For
Puka Nacua
24 1st
titusbramble
Footballguy
Nacua and the first barring unstated league settings that buff RBs or nerf WRs
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
He will undoubtedly regret that trade sooner than later IMO.
wlwiles
Footballguy
12 team 1QB
Gave: Geno Smith + 2025 3rd
Got: 2025 2nd
Both picks should be back half to late. Geno's been a roster clogger - can't drop him bc he's worth something even in a 1QB, but as my team's QB3 I'd never conceivably use him. Shopped him all offseason for any 3rd and got no takers, so felt good to get something out of him at least.
Gave: Geno Smith + 2025 3rd
Got: 2025 2nd
Both picks should be back half to late. Geno's been a roster clogger - can't drop him bc he's worth something even in a 1QB, but as my team's QB3 I'd never conceivably use him. Shopped him all offseason for any 3rd and got no takers, so felt good to get something out of him at least.
