Depends on team needs...fair value both ways, at different positions.Yo Eleven said:PPR League
Team A gives Latavius Murray and Mo Sanu
Team B gives Jeremy Maclin
Maxx at this point. I fear Graham never getting back to anything like his old form.coolnerd said:Team A
Max williams
for
Team X
Jimmy Graham
1111 flex 4 PPR 26 man roster
PalmerDWest said:Team A gave
Bradford
2017 2nd
Team B gave
Palmer
2017 4th
team a, team cbostonfred said:14 team, Q r ww f t d, non ppr, d heavy scoring
1) team a gives mccoy, Maclin
Team b gives 1.6, 2.6, gabbert, Josh hill
2) team a gives Brandin cooks, 2.6, titans d
Team c gives 1.2, Kyle rudolph, Cincinnati d
maclinYo Eleven said:PPR League
Team A gives Latavius Murray and Mo Sanu
Team B gives Jeremy Maclin
maxxcoolnerd said:Team A
Max williams
for
Team X
Jimmy Graham
1111 flex 4 PPR 26 man roster
pickDWest said:Team A gave:
Lacy
Team B gave:
Ruben Randle
2017 1st
MaclinYo Eleven said:PPR League
Team A gives Latavius Murray and Mo Sanu
Team B gives Jeremy Maclin
cooks side, but close12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
Every other team in the league should be furious with Team A here.Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
Unless collusion is involved, no trade should be voidable. In any case, I have no idea what side A was thinking here.Not voidable. Alex Smith is much better than he's given credit for.
I'd rather have the Cam side but the deal isn't terribly out of balance at all.
On second thought, it is definitely lopsided. But not vetoably awful.Not voidable. Alex Smith is much better than he's given credit for.
I'd rather have the Cam side but the deal isn't terribly out of balance at all.
Rolling the dice that Zenner will be Detroit's main guy and that Kelly can get more out of Smith.Unless collusion is involved, no trade should be voidable. In any case, I have no idea what side A was thinking here.
Team B missing some compensation....a 1st rounder and I could see this is "somewhat" even.Every other team in the league should be furious with Team A here.
12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
Team A, by a lot imo
I'd rather have the B side.12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
I'm not sure you can void the deal - unless there are some indications of collusion - but it's worth looking into, as it's a horrific deal (and I'm a believer in Zenner and always liked Smith more than most).Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
I think it's close but I still say B side all day. People seem to forget that Benjamin was good last year. Plus he has the reigning MVP throwing to him. Plus you probably are taking Zeke Elliott at 1.01. Stew is just gravy.12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
Surely you're not talking about Chip Kelly? Did I miss something here?Rolling the dice that Zenner will be Detroit's main guy and that Kelly can get more out of Smith.
Cam > Smith by a few miles and I like Smith. He is a good bye week fill in or if you're in a jam he is better than people think. But Cam.Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
Team A now has Smith, Bortles, RG3 and Tannehill.I'm not sure you can void the deal - unless there are some indications of collusion - but it's worth looking into, as it's a horrific deal (and I'm a believer in Zenner and always liked Smith more than most).
Team A would certainly need to explain to me as a commissioner as to why he made the deal and how he thinks it makes his team better. If I was convinced that he was sincere (and I wouldn't need to agree with his rationale) I'd let it go. It won't destroy the balance of the league. It was just a bad deal. It happens.
ETA: Roster considerations could come into play as well. If Team A has say Andrew Luck as well I can see moving Newton (although the market for him should be considerably better).
I could see some one being confident enough in Bortles that he'd want to take advantage of Newton's peak* value - but that offer doesn't really do that.Team A now has Smith, Bortles, RG3 and Tannehill.
Team B now has Newton, Fitzpatrick and Bridgewater
You mean like not being injured?I love Dez, but he seems to need everything to go right for him to excel.
No, not "certain QBs". He was hurt before Romo was and was never right again for the rest of the season. It was obvious that he wasn't 100%.Injuries, certain QBs, whatever.
If voids are part of the rules then I'd be pushing strongly for it. This is Cam Newton AND Crabtree for free. Regardless of Smith not getting credit he deserves from a trade perspective in 1 QB leagues he has NO value. Nobody paying even a 4th round rookie for him, the same effectively for Torrey Smith. Vereen=Zenner for most though Zenner could have more upside.Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
Ok. I still take the Floyd side....that's all that really matters in this thread.No, not "certain QBs". He was hurt before Romo was and was never right again for the rest of the season. It was obvious that he wasn't 100%.
It is giving me weird vibes, although the guy trading Cam won the league last season.If voids are part of the rules then I'd be pushing strongly for it. This is Cam Newton AND Crabtree for free. Regardless of Smith not getting credit he deserves from a trade perspective in 1 QB leagues he has NO value. Nobody paying even a 4th round rookie for him, the same effectively for Torrey Smith. Vereen=Zenner for most though Zenner could have more upside.
I can't think of any argument that could convince me this trade was done without collusive behavior. Other than oops the 1.1 should have been in the deal too. Just way too lopsided for it to be a possibility. Even if the dupee knew nothing about fantasy and only knew football they would know enough to not to make that trade.
1.1 and Benjamin. I am higher on Kelvin than many, and somewhat wary of Cooks' ability to produce consistent FP...I like B side a good bit.12 team PPR
A gets: Cooks, Yeldon, Karlos Williams
B gets: 1.01, K.Benjamin, J-Stew
Team A gets the best haul here...B must be in love with Zenner. Or high.Would appreciate your thoughts on this deal that went down in our 2nd year ppr deep roster 12 team dynasty
Team A gave up
Cam Newton, Shane Vereen and Michael Crabtree
Team B gave up
Alex Smith, Zack Zenner and Torrey Smith SF
Has prompted some discussion with some owners wanting to void the deal
peterson all day for that price.Gave: 2.02 and 3.02
Got: AP
I think Jennings is barely worth a roster spot. 31 year old RB in a three way committee that had a pretty poor 2015 and really only had one good season in his entire career.Team A gave:
Rashad Jennings
Team B gave:
Devonte Adams
16 team. Cooks and the 1.02 for Gurley
Green side, but close enough to argue either way.FFPC
Melvin Gordon
Danny Woodhead
Allen Hurns
3.8
2017 #3
for
AJ Green
CJ Spiller
Charcandrick West
Cooks and 1.2 for me.16 team. Cooks and the 1.02 for Gurley
The only guy in that trade I'm confident in is aj green
PicksFFPC:
Allen Hurns
For
2017#1( I think not a playoff team but close)
2017#3
Cheap for Green to meFFPC
Melvin Gordon
Danny Woodhead
Allen Hurns
3.8
2017 #3
for
AJ Green
CJ Spiller
Charcandrick West