Dr. Octopus
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I've never seen a few bad playoff games change the perspective on a player so quickly. It's like everyone forgets he caught 105 balls during the regular season.jeaton6 said:DT getting cheaper and cheaper every day.
I've never seen a few bad playoff games change the perspective on a player so quickly. It's like everyone forgets he caught 105 balls during the regular season.jeaton6 said:DT getting cheaper and cheaper every day.
Team one12 Team PPR 1 QB 2 RB 2-3 WR 1-2 TE
Team One - David Johnson & Dez Bryant + 2017 1st & 2nd round picks
Team Two - Ryan Matthews, Brandon Cooks, & Sammy Watkins
1.01 was an overpay given the current market value of Demaryius. Others in here have gotten him much cheaper.But how are you going to get those "similar guys" in 2-3 years? You'll have to trade for them if you don't already have them. Maybe trade a 1st - above the guy traded the #1 overall to get DT, that's a big price tag. Then you'll have to do it all over again when that guy slows down. Why do all that when you could just get a Cooper or Watkins or Evans or Hopkins or Cooks or A Rob or (fill in the blank with the young WR you like)? If I have that young guy now, I won't have to give up something in 2-3 years all over again to replace my aging DT or Jordy.
Just my $.02.
Yea it's a terrible trade and your "consensus" data is not in line with leagues I participate.Well aware of what I wrote. Yes cited consensus (i.e. the alleged multiple wrongs) as a datapoint point that the value isn't TERRIBLE as you indicate.
A lot of nerve..lmfao. Are we talking football or is this gossip girls? Sensitive much? JC.
Agholor for John Brown is interesting. Coin toss.Carson Palmer for 2.8
agholor for John brown
As a John Brown owner, I'd be wanting a mid 2nd or something to balance this out. Agholor was a high pick but did fk all.agholor for John brown
Same hereAs a John Brown owner, I'd be wanting a mid 2nd or something to balance this out. Agholor was a high pick but did fk all.
Wow great value for you. Haven't seen Murray fetch a first this offseason (went for 2017 2 in one) and haven't seen Charles dealt but this was basically a couple of firsts for him. Well done,Same league, PPR
Traded charles and 2.11 for Gio and 1.08.
Traded demarco Murray for 2017 1st and 3rd - probably later ones.
Decided to start a rebuild in a league where my WRs (Calvin, DT, Gordon and Marshall) went down quick from 2 years ago. RBs getting older too. Instead of trying one last run I'll use the theory that it's better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late. Traded Marshall earlier. Now I need to move DT.
Hmm. I like the side getting Dez by about the 2017 1.12 Team PPR 1 QB 2 RB 2-3 WR 1-2 TE
Team One - David Johnson & Dez Bryant + 2017 1st & 2nd round picks
Team Two - Ryan Matthews, Brandon Cooks, & Sammy Watkins
2.8, could see paying it though if totally desperate for QB. Seems hard to believe in start 1 QB though.Carson Palmer for 2.8
agholor for John brown
Do you own DT in a high % of your leagues or have you polled other DT owners in these leagues or had lengthy debates on his value in all these leagues or seen him dealt in all these leagues for significantly less than this consistently to come to this conclusion that this is a terrible trade?Yea it's a terrible trade and your "consensus" data is not in line with leagues I participate.
Sensitive? No, just annoyed that in a discussion forum where we provide opinions as the basis of the discussion that someone wants to call me out for disagreeing with your false consensus. But go ahead and follow the sheep, hope that works out well for you.
No, yes, and neither have a thing to do with how I formulate my opinion.Do you own DT in a high % of your leagues or have you polled other DT owners in these leagues or had lengthy debates on his value in all these leagues or seen him dealt in all these leagues for significantly less than this consistently to come to this conclusion that your opinion is correct that this is a terrible trade?
Call you out, like I said sensitive, clearly.
If it's a 1qb league then the 1.1 by a LOT. Like, a whole lot.12 team ppr: 1.1 for 1.5 and Mariota. What side do you all like?
yep, 1QB, and that's what I was feeling too - thanks !what pick evens this out? Mid 2nd or so?If it's a 1qb league then the 1.1 by a LOT. Like, a whole lot.
Another early 1st. A 2017 1st might get it somewhat close given how those are valued right now but even that I think would be an underpay for 1.1. Like I said, it's not really even close as it is, imo.yep, 1QB, and that's what I was feeling too - thanks !what pick evens this out? Mid 2nd or so?
Maybe the #2 rookie pick. Maybe. No way I trade Zeek for a non top 3 QB and another rookie pick after where he ended up (in a dynasty).yep, 1QB, and that's what I was feeling too - thanks !what pick evens this out? Mid 2nd or so?
1.01 and i dont even like taking RBs high in drafts.12 team PPR
2016 draft pick 1.01
for
WR Donte Moncrief
RB TJ Yeldon
The pick12 team PPR
2016 draft pick 1.01
for
WR Donte Moncrief
RB TJ Yeldon
1.01 and it's not remotely close.12 team PPR
2016 draft pick 1.01
for
WR Donte Moncrief
RB TJ Yeldon
1.01 by a huge margin12 team ppr: 1.1 for 1.5 and Mariota. What side do you all like?
Nice dealAfter Elliot was drafted by the Cowboys, I threw this offer out, as a what the heck kind of thing, to the owner of the 1.01 and it was accepted:
1.01
for
1.02 and 2017 1st (will probably be 1.08-1.14)
That makes sense.........We had our 7 round rookie draft last week.
That makes sense.........
I wouldn't want it that way in all of my drafts, but 2 of 17 is OK. Makes for an interesting twist.That makes sense.........
Cooks side for me10 team ppr, 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1superflex/idp
Team A Trades:
Brandin Cooks
1.04
Team B Trades:
1.01, 1.06
I'll go with Gio side. Younger and likely to move on next year. Really have my reservations about Wright at this point. To me the 2.6 wasn't necessary.12 Team ppr,1qb/1rb,2wr,te,2flex,1k,1d
Team A trades:
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Year 2016 Draft Pick 2.06
Team B trades:
Murray, Latavius OAK RB
Wright, Kendall TEN WR
Year 2016 Draft Pick 2.12
Wow. Big trade. The dart throws might be the difference.12 team dynasty
Team A gets Julio, Freeman, Aaron rodgers
Team B gets Hopkins, Lamar Miller, Russel Wilson, picks 2.7, 3.5, 3.12
Gio12 Team ppr,1qb/1rb,2wr,te,2flex,1k,1d
Team A trades:
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Year 2016 Draft Pick 2.06
Team B trades:
Murray, Latavius OAK RB
Wright, Kendall TEN WR
Year 2016 Draft Pick 2.12
Elliot but close12 team 0.5 PPR, QB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE Flex RB/WR
Before the NFL Draft:
- Team A gave up Miller, Lamar HOU RB; Year 2016 Draft Pick 1.07
- Team B gave up Year 2016 Draft Pick 1.01;Year 2016 Draft Pick 2.01;Year 2016 Draft Pick 4.01 (rounds 4 & 5 happen in August)
1.2 2017 1st side14 tm 0.5 ppr (not my trade)
1.2 + 2017 1st + Walford
for
1.5 + Hurns
2017 pick is for the team that earned 1.1, but could be mid if Edelman, Nelson, Hilton have good years. I assume he is hoping Henry makes it to 1.5.
Agreed. Seems odd the guy giving up 1.2 had to give up the 2017 1 as well. To move from 1.5 to 1.2 usually will take a solid player (like Hurns) or a pick in the 1.7-1.10 range. Bare minimum would have thought a 2017 2, Walford and the move from 1.5 to 1.2 should be enough for Hurns.1.2 2017 1st side
This isn't even close. This is Walford and the 2017 first for free.Agreed. Seems odd the guy giving up 1.2 had to give up the 2017 1 as well. To move from 1.5 to 1.2 usually will take a solid player (like Hurns) or a pick in the 1.7-1.10 range. Bare minimum would have thought a 2017 2, Walford and the move from 1.5 to 1.2 should be enough for Hurns.
1.214 tm 0.5 ppr (not my trade)
1.2 + 2017 1st + Walford
for
1.5 + Hurns
2017 pick is for the team that earned 1.1, but could be mid if Edelman, Nelson, Hilton have good years. I assume he is hoping Henry makes it to 1.5.
1.112 team PPR:
Team A gets: 1.01, Alf, 3.01
Team B gets: K.White, Yeldon, 1.07
Sorry but I've gotta disagree here. The 1.1 just isn't worth this much. Assuming it ends up being worth 12 in startups I just can't see taking the side of the 12 for the 24, 48 and 60. White has a ton of potential here and would have been 1.2 at worst in this class. If I had an offer like this for the 1.1 I'd take it in a heart beat.