mcintyre1
Footballguy
Totally valid reasoning. 1.09 is about where I expect the top TE to go, but I could see him going higher based on draft results.
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (16 Viewers)
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bostonfred
Footballguy
12 could be the second to last guy in the kamara/foreman/ross/ juju/Howard/ Engram/ njoku tier, so you have almost no control over position or situation or preference. If two guys go to bad spots, or if 3 guys go to very good ones, 9 is way better than 12.
7 is better than 10, too, but I'd trade up if you wanted to.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
seems like you should have got more - but it could turn out that you bought Brown low.
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garlicduck
Footballguy
12 team ppr 1qb/2rb/3wr/1te/1flex/1d
Team A got: Pierre Garcon WR SF, Brandon LaFell WR CIN
Team B got: Tajae Sharpe WR TEN, Rookie pick 3.01
Team A got: Pierre Garcon WR SF, Brandon LaFell WR CIN
Team B got: Tajae Sharpe WR TEN, Rookie pick 3.01
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kutta
Footballguy
I'm not involved. 12 team PPR, start 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex.
Team A got: Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 4.01
Team B got: Howard, Jordan CHI RB and Langford, Jeremy CHI RB and Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
Team A got: Year 2017 Draft Pick 1.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 2.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 3.01 and Year 2017 Draft Pick 4.01
Team B got: Howard, Jordan CHI RB and Langford, Jeremy CHI RB and Benjamin, Kelvin CAR WR
steelers1080
Footballguy
I'd take the picks, but I think Howard is vastly overrated. I'd probably take Corey Davis 1.01 in this format and grab a RB at 2.01.
kutta
Footballguy
Formatting suggestion.
I think we should be saying "Team A GOT" instead of "Team A GAVE."
If we have Team A gave... and Team B gave..., and someone says I prefer Team B, does that mean they prefer what Team B gave or received? I think it is much more clear when we say what each team got.
Anyway, carry on.
I think we should be saying "Team A GOT" instead of "Team A GAVE."
If we have Team A gave... and Team B gave..., and someone says I prefer Team B, does that mean they prefer what Team B gave or received? I think it is much more clear when we say what each team got.
Anyway, carry on.
One More Rep
Footballguy
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
Team A gave: Brock Osweiler
Team B got: 2017 2nd
Is that better, kutta?
Team B got: 2017 2nd
Is that better, kutta?
Spike
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
steelers1080
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Boone22
Footballguy
He's talking about the Browns and referencing Kutta's gave vs. got request. If you look close, one team "gets" both.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
garlicduck
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
Team A gave 1.01
Team B gave AJ Green
I prefer team B.
Which side of the trade do I like better?
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jeaton6
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
1.12. That's a pretty steep price to pay at this juncture.
ETA: If that's the player selection order 1.5 must have been through the roof landing Davis.
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Its not the order. Think Fournette, Davis, Howard & Juju were taked 2yrs ago. Cook & Williams last year. So it's basically 2.8 instead of 1.12
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jeaton6
Footballguy
So this is a devy weakened 1.12. So more like 2.7? Seems about right then. I'd take Lacy at that price.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Dez
Footballguy
Interesting to say not difficult when the FBG dynasty community had AJ Green #9 and 1.01 pick #10 in the current rankings
bostonfred
Footballguy
Let's forget page 196 happened
-OZ-
Footballguy
Gut says Murray but only if I'm contending.
Picks but very close.
So many English lessons.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Spike
Footballguy
Massively. Are there components of the trade that are missing?
Rodgers hugely over Prescott.
Sneed a bit below Tate, if not equal to him.
4.11 obviously less than 4.03.
Really don't see this one for the team trading Rodgers.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I'm assuming it's a rebuild who thinks Prescott will be a top 5 QB for years to come, whereas Rodgers is 10 years older.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Rodgers is 33 and the elite QBs are all playing well into their very late 30's now. This is like trading away a 24 year old running back because you're "rebuilding".
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Yep. I made that mistake with Brees before last season. Lesson learned - ride elite QBs until they retire.
12 tm PPR, made 2 deals - wanted to shake things up even if I may have lost on value a bit:
1) Gave: K.Allen
Got: Gurley
2)Gave: Ingram, B.Powell
Got:G.Tate, 2.12
Its a start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE 1Flex
Roster now:
Brady, Mariota
L.Bell, Gurley, AP, D.Martin
A.Brown, Hilton, G.Tate, Meredith, Fitz, Beasley
M.Bennett, Ertz, J.Thomas
Not sure if I'm better, worse or the same...just different
1) Gave: K.Allen
Got: Gurley
2)Gave: Ingram, B.Powell
Got:G.Tate, 2.12
Its a start 2 RB, 3 WR, 1TE 1Flex
Roster now:
Brady, Mariota
L.Bell, Gurley, AP, D.Martin
A.Brown, Hilton, G.Tate, Meredith, Fitz, Beasley
M.Bennett, Ertz, J.Thomas
Not sure if I'm better, worse or the same...just different
Pwingles
Footballguy
Spike
Footballguy
From trade 1, I have to figure you're better as AP and Doug Martin might not even be playable this year.
If Gurley rebounds, then its a steal of a trade IMO. Of course, if he has another bad year then I'm likely stuck with him. Also tired of Ingram and the the role in NO where they seem to like to give others a shot at the goal line...I also think they draft a RB too.
steelers1080
Footballguy
True, but if they consider Dak to be the next Elite QB then it's trading an Elite QB with 6-7 years left for one with 16-17 years left. Also, I'm not saying Dak is the next Fantasy QB star, just trying to figure out what someone could be thinking. I wouldn't have done this trade, but I'm trying to put myself in someone else's shoes.
Also, it'd be more like a 26/27 year old RB. One that had been in the league for 1/2 - 2/3 of his career already. Maybe something like Ingram for Derrick Henry? 27 year old for a 22 year old. One about halfway (or more) done with his career and one just about to rise.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I guess Carr is a buy candidate this year. Just did another trade in Zealots similar to my other one. I'm not a believer in Montgomery at all. And I still have the 1.3 and 1.11.
This is NON-PPR
Gave
Ty Montgomery, 1.12, 2.07
Got
Derek Carr
This is NON-PPR
Gave
Ty Montgomery, 1.12, 2.07
Got
Derek Carr
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
That is a massive haul for a QB in a 1 QB league and to me makes him a sell sell sell. I am a Raiders homer that loves me some Darth Carr, but I'd move him for that in a heartbeat. Too easy to go get a QB cheap that can score within a couple of PPG of Carr. Bortles, Rivers, and Mariotta all finished within 1.0 PPG last year. Palmer 1.05, Dalton 1.5.
What would you get if you bundled all of those together, 1.04? Hell I could probably turn that into Rodgers if he's on a team looking to build.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
"Percentage of career" doesn't matter and is the fallacy that leads to someone making a trade like this. Ingram is a poor example because he's not an elite player at his position. This is more like trading David Johnson for Derrick Henry. In 5 years Rodgers will be 38 and David Johnson will be 30, about to turn 31. If anything Rodgers probably has more time left than guys like David Johnson or Devonta Freeman and people wouldn't jump ship from those guys because they're too old for a rebuilding team.
Dak looks nice enough, and I have him in my main league, but you have to really really really really really be a believer for this to make sense. There are a zillion guys that have a nice season as a young QB and a very very small percentage of them ever turn into a player of Rodgers' caliber.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's not true in a Zealots dynasty IDP league. Rosters are at 54 players and all QBs are rostered including most back ups.
And I'm not sure what your scoring system is but Bortles was 1.8 ppg less, Palmer 2, and Dalton over 3 ppg less. Rivers is just old.
And sure you could swing mythical trades with mythical owners.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I don't really consider Montgomery, 1.12, and 2.07 to be a haul. More like a collection of lotto tickets. I expect 2.07 and probably even Montgomery to be pretty low probability lotto tickets and 1.12 isn't exactly approaching even toss-up territory historically either.
It's a nice upside swing but even as someone generally down on QBs I'd probably take Carr and be done with it, even in a normal roster size league (the deep rosters in Andy's league only increase Carr's value).
It's a nice upside swing but even as someone generally down on QBs I'd probably take Carr and be done with it, even in a normal roster size league (the deep rosters in Andy's league only increase Carr's value).
