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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (40 Viewers)

12 team, keep 10, 26man roster, non-ppr, 1/1/2/3flex/k/d

Traded on the clock....

Team A Trades: Corey Coleman, 1.11 (Marlon Mack), 2018 1st

Team B Trades: Antonio Brown, 2018 2nd
#notraderapistsallowed 

criminal. Hey, better get that 2nd!

to make it worse he picks Mack at 1.11. I'm assuming you're the brown side.

 
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#notraderapistsallowed 

criminal. Hey, better get that 2nd!

to make it worse he picks Mack at 1.11. I'm assuming you're the brown side.
I'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious.  Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick).  The second was definitely not necessary.  If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.  

 
I'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious.  Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick).  The second was definitely not necessary.  If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.  
Mack is not a first round pick (i know people have different values and maybe he becomes a stud but he's more of a mid 2nd value (went 19 in my dyno draft).  Coleman is a late first value.  Next years first is time value discounted.  So two late firsts for Brown.  Not enough

 
Mack is not a first round pick (i know people have different values and maybe he becomes a stud but he's more of a mid 2nd value (went 19 in my dyno draft).  Coleman is a late first value.  Next years first is time value discounted.  So two late firsts for Brown.  Not enough
Well, he got a first rounder.  You can disagree with how he used it all you want, but the trade was for the pick, not for Mack.

 
Well, he got a first rounder.  You can disagree with how he used it all you want, but the trade was for the pick, not for Mack.
That's true, but the value of that pick is still a late first.  Overall AB just worth more than a couple of late first dart throws, which is exactly what Mack is.

 
Ppr qrwwwrfkd

team a gets deandre Washington 

team b gets Tyler Lockett

team a has marshawn

 
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12 team, keep 10, 26man roster, non-ppr, 1/1/2/3flex/k/d

Traded on the clock....

Team A Trades: Corey Coleman, 1.11 (Marlon Mack), 2018 1st

Team B Trades: Antonio Brown, 2018 2nd
Yikes. Pretty bad in a vacuum but even worse in a keep 10. Mack probably won't even be keepable in that shallow of a league and it makes it harder to hold on to Coleman much longer if he doesn't breakout soon as well. 

 
That's true, but the value of that pick is still a late first.  Overall AB just worth more than a couple of late first dart throws, which is exactly what Mack is.
To be clear, its 3 late first dart throws.  I agree that its a bad trade, but I think we are about to see an overuse of the #traderapist schtick, and I don't think this falls into that category.  Anytime you get 3 first round picks for a player, I find it tough to call it rape.  Him throwing in the second rounder is baffling though.

 
To be clear, its 3 late first dart throws.  I agree that its a bad trade, but I think we are about to see an overuse of the #traderapist schtick, and I don't think this falls into that category.  Anytime you get 3 first round picks for a player, I find it tough to call it rape.  Him throwing in the second rounder is baffling though.
It's 3 unproven commodities for the #1 wr, and what is likely an early 2018 2nd. Sure that future first could be early, but it's probably late. "3 firsts" is fine when one is top 5 or has a shot at being the 1.01. 

 
It's 3 unproven commodities for the #1 wr, and what is likely an early 2018 2nd. Sure that future first could be early, but it's probably late. "3 firsts" is fine when one is top 5 or has a shot at being the 1.01. 
Unless you know something I don't know, we have no clue whatsoever as to where those future draft picks will fall. 

I've been pretty clear that I think the team getting Brown won the deal - especially with the ridiculousness of also getting the second rounder.  I just think calling this trade rape diminishes greatly from some of the truly disgustingly bad deals that have come up in this thread.

Coleman was an early first last year, and showed some real promise before he got hurt - and that was with Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan, and RG3 hurling ducks at him.  I think he is a pretty solid commodity, albeit unproven.  Tack on 2 more firsts - one late and one we have no idea about, and it does not seem anywhere close to rape in my opinion.  That second rounder is stupid though.  AND...all of this said, I would trade Coleman, the 1.11, and a future first for Brown all day long - I just don't think its rape.

 
I'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious.  Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick).  The second was definitely not necessary.  If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.  
3 firsts for brown was effectively how i saw it. Coleman was a 1.05 in 2017, with nothing really available at 1.11 I shopped the pick with owner looking to move antonio brown 'sell high'.  According to owners in the league i 'lost'.. thats why trades happen when value is viewed different. The 2nd was a last minute change after coleman was swapped for kev. White in the deal. 

 
This thread is so often about the bigger-name players; here's one for the roster flotsam.

12-team PPR, starting 1/1/2/1 & 3 FLEX

Scrambling to make cut-downs -- from 28 to 25 non-DEF/PK slots -- while still adding from the waiver wire, this is the culmination of 4 trades and a blind-bidding session, all in the last few days:

Gave:

TJ Yeldon  

Braxton Miller

De'Angelo Henderson

Joe Williams

'18 3rd (late)

'18 5th (late)

roughly 1/3 of my blind bidding dollars (historically, the waiver wire is very thin during the season)

Received: 

Brandon Oliver (own Melvin, don't own Fournette or any other DEN/SF RBs)

Marquise Goodwin

Kendall Wright

'18 2nd (early/mid)

'18 4th (early/mid)

'18 4th (late)

 
Went down yesterday in FFPC:

Dez Bryant & Carlos Hyde

for

Julio Jones & Samaje Perine

 
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Couple of big name WR trades

12 team dynasty PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX

Team A gives: Mike Evans, Tyrod Taylor

Team B gives: Allen Robinson, Tyrell Williams, Donte Moncrief, Rex Burkhead

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Team A gives: AJ Green

Team B gives: Kareem Hunt, Marqise Lee, 2018 1st

 
Couple of big name WR trades

12 team dynasty PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX

Team A gives: Mike Evans, Tyrod Taylor

Team B gives: Allen Robinson, Tyrell Williams, Donte Moncrief, Rex Burkhead

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Team A gives: AJ Green

Team B gives: Kareem Hunt, Marqise Lee, 2018 1st
Evans and AJ and it's not close.

 
I would take either Foreman or Benjamin alone over all 3 players on the other side, much less both of them. 
bizarre trade.  Rishard Matthews and Brieda are barely worth roster spots.  Samuels is a decent prospect but not worth close to both Foreman and Benjamin.

 
Couple of big name WR trades

12 team dynasty PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX

Team A gives: Mike Evans, Tyrod Taylor

Team B gives: Allen Robinson, Tyrell Williams, Donte Moncrief, Rex Burkhead

---------------------------------------

Team A gives: AJ Green

Team B gives: Kareem Hunt, Marqise Lee, 2018 1st
If it's the same Team A in both trades some one needs to remove his trading license. The Evans one is particularly bad.

 
2 recent deals in separate leagues, both 12 team PPR

1) Gave: Brady, Fitz

Got: Luck, D-Jax

Also have Stafford at QB so I was ok with waiting on Luck even if it is a short term hit

2) Gave: Brady, Snead

Got: Rivers, K.Benjamin

Also have Brees so really the upgrade at WR is worth it alone

 
Just seen this in my ppr league. 

Team A gives Leveon Bell. 

Team B gives McCoy, Crowder and a 2018 3rd. 

Sad part is I offered Melvin Gordon, Golden Tate and a 2017 1st, last year when he was out of playoff contention. 

 
Just seen this in my ppr league. 

Team A gives Leveon Bell. 

Team B gives McCoy, Crowder and a 2018 3rd. 

Sad part is I offered Melvin Gordon, Golden Tate and a 2017 1st, last year when he was out of playoff contention. 

 
Just seen this in my ppr league. 

Team A gives Leveon Bell. 

Team B gives McCoy, Crowder and a 2018 3rd. 

Sad part is I offered Melvin Gordon, Golden Tate and a 2017 1st, last year when he was out of playoff contention. 
First, terrible trade. 

Second, did you try to acquire this off-season? If so, for what? 

 
2 recent deals in separate leagues, both 12 team PPR

1) Gave: Brady, Fitz

Got: Luck, D-Jax

Also have Stafford at QB so I was ok with waiting on Luck even if it is a short term hit

2) Gave: Brady, Snead

Got: Rivers, K.Benjamin

Also have Brees so really the upgrade at WR is worth it alone
Luck

Benjamin

Both no brainers.

 
bombjack said:
Went down yesterday in FFPC:

Dez Bryant & Carlos Hyde

for

Julio Jones & Samaje Perine
As Dez/Hyde owner in one of the $2500 leagues, I would pay this for Julio/Perine. 

 
First, terrible trade. 

Second, did you try to acquire this off-season? If so, for what? 
We had talks, but no official offer. He wanted me to add Doctson, and another 2017 1st. The talks were in March or April. 

 
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I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West  for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.

Already been called terrible on the league message board.

 
I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West  for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.

Already been called terrible on the league message board.
I love Ameer and am pretty down on Ajayi, but I'm still not sure you got enough "on paper" for him. That said, if you like the players you got back that's the ultimate judge, IMO.

 
I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West  for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.

Already been called terrible on the league message board.
I think this is totally a matter of personal opinion. All those players have question marks and caveats. Which ones you believe makes you like one side or the other. I certainly wouldn't express any concern over that trade on a league message board.

 
joey said:
I think this is totally a matter of personal opinion. All those players have question marks and caveats. Which ones you believe makes you like one side or the other. I certainly wouldn't express any concern over that trade on a league message board.
As someone who hates all players in the deal, other than Abdullah who I'm just indifferent on, it's Ajayi and not particularly close.  

 
Gottabesweet said:
Not involved

12 team PPR

Pryor and Hyde

Howard and Robbie Anderson
Jordan Howard?  OJ Howard?  Bug Howard?  

Unless you're completely sold on Pryor I'll take the Howard side (assuming Jordan)

 
16 team ppr

Adam Shaheen, Sheldon Richardson, Mike Gillislee and Donte Moncrief

for

Antonio Brown
Not bagging on you directly, but trades like this aren't even worth posting here.  They are clearly outliers and don't give anyone any concept of true value in the market place, all they are are a reason for people to complain.

 

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