In PPR I have Abdullah well ahead of Perine. Not sure why after Perines poor offseason someone would make this trade.12 team PPR 25 man roster, 1, 1, 2-3, 1-2, k, d
gave: Perine
received: Abdullah
#notraderapistsallowed12 team, keep 10, 26man roster, non-ppr, 1/1/2/3flex/k/d
Traded on the clock....
Team A Trades: Corey Coleman, 1.11 (Marlon Mack), 2018 1st
Team B Trades: Antonio Brown, 2018 2nd
Brown12 team, keep 10, 26man roster, non-ppr, 1/1/2/3flex/k/d
Traded on the clock....
Team A Trades: Corey Coleman, 1.11 (Marlon Mack), 2018 1st
Team B Trades: Antonio Brown, 2018 2nd
Abdullah12 team PPR 25 man roster, 1, 1, 2-3, 1-2, k, d
gave: Perine
received: Abdullah
I'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious. Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick). The second was definitely not necessary. If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.#notraderapistsallowed
criminal. Hey, better get that 2nd!
to make it worse he picks Mack at 1.11. I'm assuming you're the brown side.
Mack is not a first round pick (i know people have different values and maybe he becomes a stud but he's more of a mid 2nd value (went 19 in my dyno draft). Coleman is a late first value. Next years first is time value discounted. So two late firsts for Brown. Not enoughI'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious. Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick). The second was definitely not necessary. If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.
Well, he got a first rounder. You can disagree with how he used it all you want, but the trade was for the pick, not for Mack.Mack is not a first round pick (i know people have different values and maybe he becomes a stud but he's more of a mid 2nd value (went 19 in my dyno draft). Coleman is a late first value. Next years first is time value discounted. So two late firsts for Brown. Not enough
That's true, but the value of that pick is still a late first. Overall AB just worth more than a couple of late first dart throws, which is exactly what Mack is.Well, he got a first rounder. You can disagree with how he used it all you want, but the trade was for the pick, not for Mack.
Yikes. Pretty bad in a vacuum but even worse in a keep 10. Mack probably won't even be keepable in that shallow of a league and it makes it harder to hold on to Coleman much longer if he doesn't breakout soon as well.12 team, keep 10, 26man roster, non-ppr, 1/1/2/3flex/k/d
Traded on the clock....
Team A Trades: Corey Coleman, 1.11 (Marlon Mack), 2018 1st
Team B Trades: Antonio Brown, 2018 2nd
To be clear, its 3 late first dart throws. I agree that its a bad trade, but I think we are about to see an overuse of the #traderapist schtick, and I don't think this falls into that category. Anytime you get 3 first round picks for a player, I find it tough to call it rape. Him throwing in the second rounder is baffling though.That's true, but the value of that pick is still a late first. Overall AB just worth more than a couple of late first dart throws, which is exactly what Mack is.
It's 3 unproven commodities for the #1 wr, and what is likely an early 2018 2nd. Sure that future first could be early, but it's probably late. "3 firsts" is fine when one is top 5 or has a shot at being the 1.01.To be clear, its 3 late first dart throws. I agree that its a bad trade, but I think we are about to see an overuse of the #traderapist schtick, and I don't think this falls into that category. Anytime you get 3 first round picks for a player, I find it tough to call it rape. Him throwing in the second rounder is baffling though.
Unless you know something I don't know, we have no clue whatsoever as to where those future draft picks will fall.It's 3 unproven commodities for the #1 wr, and what is likely an early 2018 2nd. Sure that future first could be early, but it's probably late. "3 firsts" is fine when one is top 5 or has a shot at being the 1.01.
3 firsts for brown was effectively how i saw it. Coleman was a 1.05 in 2017, with nothing really available at 1.11 I shopped the pick with owner looking to move antonio brown 'sell high'. According to owners in the league i 'lost'.. thats why trades happen when value is viewed different. The 2nd was a last minute change after coleman was swapped for kev. White in the deal.I'd take the Brown side too, but I dont think its that egregious. Its basically 3 first round picks for Brown and a second (although the 1.11 is a whole lot different than if it were a top 5 pick). The second was definitely not necessary. If it were just Coleman and two firsts for Brown I would say thats close to fair value - but I'd still prefer Brown.
Evans and AJ and it's not close.Couple of big name WR trades
12 team dynasty PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX
Team A gives: Mike Evans, Tyrod Taylor
Team B gives: Allen Robinson, Tyrell Williams, Donte Moncrief, Rex Burkhead
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Team A gives: AJ Green
Team B gives: Kareem Hunt, Marqise Lee, 2018 1st
Juliobombjack said:Went down yesterday in FFPC:
Dez Bryant & Carlos Hyde
for
Julio Jones & Samaje Perine
I would take either Foreman or Benjamin alone over all 3 players on the other side, much less both of them.Team A gets D'Onta Foreman, Kelvin Benjamin (Lamar miller owner)
Team B gets Rishard Matthews, Curtis Samuel, Matt Breida
bizarre trade. Rishard Matthews and Brieda are barely worth roster spots. Samuels is a decent prospect but not worth close to both Foreman and Benjamin.I would take either Foreman or Benjamin alone over all 3 players on the other side, much less both of them.
If it's the same Team A in both trades some one needs to remove his trading license. The Evans one is particularly bad.Couple of big name WR trades
12 team dynasty PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX
Team A gives: Mike Evans, Tyrod Taylor
Team B gives: Allen Robinson, Tyrell Williams, Donte Moncrief, Rex Burkhead
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Team A gives: AJ Green
Team B gives: Kareem Hunt, Marqise Lee, 2018 1st
First, terrible trade.Just seen this in my ppr league.
Team A gives Leveon Bell.
Team B gives McCoy, Crowder and a 2018 3rd.
Sad part is I offered Melvin Gordon, Golden Tate and a 2017 1st, last year when he was out of playoff contention.
Luck2 recent deals in separate leagues, both 12 team PPR
1) Gave: Brady, Fitz
Got: Luck, D-Jax
Also have Stafford at QB so I was ok with waiting on Luck even if it is a short term hit
2) Gave: Brady, Snead
Got: Rivers, K.Benjamin
Also have Brees so really the upgrade at WR is worth it alone
Bad. Very bad.Team A gets D'Onta Foreman, Kelvin Benjamin (Lamar miller owner)
Team B gets Rishard Matthews, Curtis Samuel, Matt Breida
As Dez/Hyde owner in one of the $2500 leagues, I would pay this for Julio/Perine.bombjack said:Went down yesterday in FFPC:
Dez Bryant & Carlos Hyde
for
Julio Jones & Samaje Perine
We had talks, but no official offer. He wanted me to add Doctson, and another 2017 1st. The talks were in March or April.First, terrible trade.
Second, did you try to acquire this off-season? If so, for what?
Ajayi, not closeI gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.
Already been called terrible on the league message board.
I love Ameer and am pretty down on Ajayi, but I'm still not sure you got enough "on paper" for him. That said, if you like the players you got back that's the ultimate judge, IMO.I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.
Already been called terrible on the league message board.
I think this is totally a matter of personal opinion. All those players have question marks and caveats. Which ones you believe makes you like one side or the other. I certainly wouldn't express any concern over that trade on a league message board.I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.
Already been called terrible on the league message board.
As someone who hates all players in the deal, other than Abdullah who I'm just indifferent on, it's Ajayi and not particularly close.joey said:I think this is totally a matter of personal opinion. All those players have question marks and caveats. Which ones you believe makes you like one side or the other. I certainly wouldn't express any concern over that trade on a league message board.
Jordan Howard? OJ Howard? Bug Howard?Gottabesweet said:Not involved
12 team PPR
Pryor and Hyde
Howard and Robbie Anderson
I don't play IDP but is Richardson worth that much, cuz I know none of those other pieces add up to much.16 team ppr
Adam Shaheen, Sheldon Richardson, Mike Gillislee and Donte Moncrief
for
Antonio Brown
Who is Bernard Perriman?Nero said:I gave Jay Ajayi and Terrance West for Ameer Abdullah and Bernard Perriman.
Already been called terrible on the league message board.
Hes listed as a DT now. Hes the least valuable piece in the deal.I don't play IDP but is Richardson worth that much, cuz I know none of those other pieces add up to much.
Not bagging on you directly, but trades like this aren't even worth posting here. They are clearly outliers and don't give anyone any concept of true value in the market place, all they are are a reason for people to complain.16 team ppr
Adam Shaheen, Sheldon Richardson, Mike Gillislee and Donte Moncrief
for
Antonio Brown
Kittle please and thank you12 team PPR TE yardage bonus
Team A gets Kittle, 2018 2nd
Team B gets Zay Jones
Abdullah for me and the only reason is age12 team PPR, running yard bonus
Team A got Abdullah, M Goodwin, 2018 4th
Team B got Powell/Forte, C Beasley
Abdullah12 team PPR, running yard bonus
Team A got Abdullah, M Goodwin, 2018 4th
Team B got Powell/Forte, C Beasley