Ben & Jerry's
Footballguy
16 team IDP dynasty
Philip Lindsay + Tarik Cohen + 1.09
for
Dionte Johnson + 2.05
Philip Lindsay + Tarik Cohen + 1.09
for
Dionte Johnson + 2.05
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (12 Viewers)
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Boston
Footballguy
Not sure what the guy getting Johnson is thinking...Johnson is very intriguing but still somewhat of an unknown...Ben Ben is approaching 40 and both JuJu and Washington are very young so he is in a bit of an odd spot long-term...on the other side of this Lindsay is a solid RB (and in 16 team leagues they dry up fast) and while Cohen took a huge step backwards last year he is still 24 and (not to be repetitive) in a 16 team league that makes him more valuable then he is in smaller leagues...since there are 16 teams (seems like a theme) that puts a pretty big gap between the picks and there is a very good chance you can get a WR at 1.9 who is at least as good of a prospect as Johnson currently is.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
It got voted down (which I normally hate) and redone:
Carson, R. Jones, Waller, 1.3, 3.2
for
Barkley, Goedert, 4.7, 4.12
I still don't like it but a little bit better.
Carson, R. Jones, Waller, 1.3, 3.2
for
Barkley, Goedert, 4.7, 4.12
I still don't like it but a little bit better.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I know this isn't the place for this but how does have a GM job. He is killing the Texans.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Ya. Gave the Barkley guy an extra 3rd and made the 4ths later. Definitely not good though.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
How does the 3.2 even move the needle in a trade like that? It’s like offering the owners another $100 after they passed on your offer to buy their house.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Lol. You aren't wrong at all. I still complained but dude doesn't have any other high picks to give. I want him to drop the 4ths at minimum.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
That 3.2 makes absolutely no difference to me. But I see this as Waller and Goedert as a slight wash. I actually prefer Waller by a marginal to moderate amount. But that leaves 1.3 and Carson (and some garbage) for Barkley (and some garbage). That's terrible.
Now I get that there is a dice roll element here where maybe Rojo hits and maybe Carson bounces back. It could make it closer to fair if it does. But even if that occurred most people, including me, would still say Barkley. One dollar is greater than four quarters argument. But in this case I'd call it an injured quarter and a nickel at best (rojo). The 1.3 is probably a quarter.
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I don't even like Hockenson as a prospect but this seems like a crazy recency bias trade. I think Hurst could be a low end TE1 this year, but he will never be a more valuable asset than Hockenson (you'd think), unless he completely busts. I just think if this person was going to trade Hockenson they should've got a lot more.
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kutta
Footballguy
How is it “likely” late? You don’t know draft position yet?
Elther way, that’s a good amount to give up for a QB in a start 1 league. I’m not sure how a guy is going to fit 7 more draft picks into his lineup, but he may be able to turn some late picks into an earlier pick and make it work.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FPC not involved
Gave
Davis, Corey (WR), TEN
Samuel, Curtis (WR), CAR
2021 4th
Got
2020 Pick 1.11
Meh, 2 nickels and a penny for dime; tm trading the 1.11 (not his) finished 8th, bad roster, doesn't have many picks (2.7, 2 4ths & a 5th). I feel bad for him and imho there is no question he should blow this tm up but hes not. Im thinking i have to make an offer for his 2021 1st because hes probably going to give it to someone else anyway.
Gave
Davis, Corey (WR), TEN
Samuel, Curtis (WR), CAR
2021 4th
Got
2020 Pick 1.11
Meh, 2 nickels and a penny for dime; tm trading the 1.11 (not his) finished 8th, bad roster, doesn't have many picks (2.7, 2 4ths & a 5th). I feel bad for him and imho there is no question he should blow this tm up but hes not. Im thinking i have to make an offer for his 2021 1st because hes probably going to give it to someone else anyway.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
Team A gave up Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.06
Team B gave up Slayton, Darius NYG WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.12
Team A gave up Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.04; Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.06
Team B gave up Slayton, Darius NYG WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 3.06; Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.12
Agreed and good deal in general but really good to unload those two roster spots on someone else right now in FFPC.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I've tried to offload Slayton this off-season to no success. That looks petty good.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This seems like a terrible trade to me. I like Johnson but they have other WRs there and Lindsay has been around 1k yards for the last 2 years. The Lindsay side shouldn't have got a top 10 pick too.Ben & Jerry's said:
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm sure that person is just expecting Hurst to be the Austin Hooper in Atlanta's offense (I don't see it) and historically, Detroit can't use TEs at all. I don't see this as that bad but you are playing for hope with the Falcons.RushHour said:
Boston
Footballguy
Slayton is a guy I really don't have a handle on...he came totally out of nowhere and had a very good rookie season...looking at the Giants WRs/TEs they have Tate, Shepard and Engram and not much else...Engram and Shepard both have talent but have legit durability concerns...so right now I need to see what the Giants do in free agency (there is not a ton there) and the draft (there is a ton there) to really get a good handle on how they feel about Slayton...the bad news here is you need to make a decision way before the draft takes place...since it does not appear the Giants will use their #1 on a WR I may sit tight on Slayton and hope he is the real deal...the offer is fair but you aren't passing up a sweetheart deal here since the picks are 20 and 22 overall...I would hate to jump on this deal where you are only getting dice rolls and see the Giants only make minimal moves to WR and then watch Slayton become an annual 1,000 yard receiver.Dr. Octopus said:
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'd say that is a good sell high on Slayton. The early part of the 2nd might get you some decent WR talent.Dr. Octopus said:
Boston
Footballguy
That is a nice move...Hardman is about as intriguing as you get right now and that 1.11 is a pick where you have a real good idea what you will be getting.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
12 team ppr QB/2RB/3WR/TE/FL
Team A gave up Singletary, Devin BUF RB; Beckham, Odell CLE WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.05
Team B gave up Henderson, Darrell LAR RB; Brown, A.J. TEN WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.10
Team A gave up Singletary, Devin BUF RB; Beckham, Odell CLE WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.05
Team B gave up Henderson, Darrell LAR RB; Brown, A.J. TEN WR; Year 2020 Draft Pick 2.10
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
Good catch. Those picks are actually 2021, not 2020.kutta said:
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Couldn't accept this offer fast enough:
Devante Adams and 3.7
for
Kenny Golladay, Benny Snell, and 4.7
Devante Adams and 3.7
for
Kenny Golladay, Benny Snell, and 4.7
Boston
Footballguy
The fact that the Adams owner also got a 3.7 upgrades this from a fantasy misdemeanor to a fantasy felony.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC superflex
I gave Cam Newton
I got 1.12
Badly needed to clear a roster spot. I promoted Foles from strong cut candidate to probable superflex starter. I was hoping Cam would be that guy, and still could, but I like 1.12 more.
I gave Cam Newton
I got 1.12
Badly needed to clear a roster spot. I promoted Foles from strong cut candidate to probable superflex starter. I was hoping Cam would be that guy, and still could, but I like 1.12 more.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I thought the same. It is a very new league. Some experienced fantasy players but a mix in experience but everyone's first year playing in any Dynasty league.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
FFPC
Gave 2020 3.1 & 4.2
Got Michel, Sony
Pretty cheap and still lots of high picks but roster spot thru cut down is the real cost
Gave 2020 3.1 & 4.2
Got Michel, Sony
Pretty cheap and still lots of high picks but roster spot thru cut down is the real cost
SieteCinco
Footballguy
12 Team 1PPR Superflex (rebuilding)
Gave: Teddy Bridgewater
Received: Brandin Cooks, 2.02, David Njoku
Gave: Teddy Bridgewater
Received: Brandin Cooks, 2.02, David Njoku
Boston
Footballguy
Evans very easily here...Evans is 26 and we know what he is...very good...those draft picks do not excite me when you are giving up a player of Evans caliber because you really don't know what you are gonna get...especially that 2.4 (16th overall) which could easily end up being a miss...in the 1.7 I see no way you get Lamb, Jeudy, Taylor, Swift or probably Dobbins so while you can get a very good prospect the chances they are on par with Evans are pretty slim...there is horrific downside to this deal and the upside is dicey at best...I see absolutely no reason to make this deal as currently constructed.
Boston
Footballguy
In a 12 team Superflex I want a lot more for a reasonably young starting QB...Cooks is Cooks and has limited upside...Njoku is very questionable and if he doesn't get traded has close to no value and the 2.2 is a pick you really don't know what you are getting...the guy getting Bridgewater is loving this...he nibbled around the edges of his roster and was able to land a QB which in this format is never easy.
Boston
Footballguy
I like this move for you...Michel is an odd player right now but is definitely worth the dice roll for this cost...as of now he is still a starting RB and with all the needs suddenly springing up for the Pats have their RB corps may look the same (I would love to know what BB actually thinks of Harris...do they dislike him or was last year a James White redshirt year)...I am a believer in hording as many "playable" RBs as you can...a guy like Michel can seem pretty blah right now but next season around week 10 when the injuries are piling up you maybe lucky you have a guy like that...you never want to get in a situation where you have to overpay for a RB like Michel later in the season...you would regret that...for what you gave up here you will have no regrets.
Pwingles
Footballguy
In a vacuum I agree. If my team was in a different spot theres no way i move him. I am very worried about the bucs offense this season and moving fwd with Godwins emergence. The feeling ive gotten shopping him is that others agree about the uncertainty, peoples buying price was similar to gurley last off season. Not that evans is in the same spot but people were treating it like "yeah i know hes good, but brady sucks".
It might be a bad move ultimately. Not many people are bigger Evans honks than me, but I felt like it was time to try and cash out. Value wouldve been much higher a month ago, but I also wouldnt have moved him a month ago, so *shrugs*. We will see. I am going to try and make a move to get into the top 4 or 5, or maybe go after someone else with a depressed value like Juju or something.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team FFPC superflex
I gave Sutton, Doyle, 3.01
I got Gallup, J Cook, 2.01
I think the players are largely a wash and I like the pick upgrade.
I gave Sutton, Doyle, 3.01
I got Gallup, J Cook, 2.01
I think the players are largely a wash and I like the pick upgrade.
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TheBottomLine
Footballguy
I assume that's Jared Cook and not Dalvin.
I'll take Sutton here but I like him more than most.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
If rebuilding and have the roster spots, this was an ok move. I believe there will be true value at 2.2, and that is probably the best player in this trade.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
This was so cheap, it was a good move for you. No real downside with what you gave up.
I agree I like Evans side NOW but two things I wanted to point out.
I don't care how old a player is today, I care how old he is when the season starts so not that it makes a big difference but Evans is 27 when we play football again.
But I mainly strongly disagree you have no shot to get one of those players you mentioned as having no shot at 7. We'll see how it goes but way to early yet. I believe 5 RB's will go in first two rounds of NFL draft, mainly in round 2. In fact if you look at Hindery's trade value chart and rookie rankings, which I happen to absolutely agree with he's got Lamb or Jeudy at 7 after the 5 RB's. My guess is 6 puts you in a lot better spot but I just think it's way to early right now to assume he can't get one of those players you mentioned.
Also I'm on record as saying I think Evans is a poor fit with Brady and I'd move him. Which I did the night Brady to Tampa seemed official.
But I don't disagree I would not have moved for this, but I think it has a shot of working out and big key is how those RB's land to either let you feel good drafting one at 7 or pushing Lamb or Jeudy back to 7.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I agree that Evans is going to have a down year or two. Godwin is a better route runner and although I don't agree that "Brady sucks", he doesn't go downfield like Winston so that will limit his value. I just don't think you got enough for him. I like 1.7 but I think you could have got another young player or a better pick next year or something. I just hate selling low.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
I'm assuming Jared Cook and not Dalvin Cook. I'd like the upgrade of picks but I think you downgraded at WR. Pretty fair trade though.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
Couple really minor roster clearing moves in FFPC
Damien Harris for a 5th (2021)
Ian Thomas for 5.04
I got Ian, I gave up Damien. Basically Damien for Ian which I see as a big win even though it didn't clear roster space. My cuts are still fine to get to 16.
Small other one's that I'm not apart of
4.06 was traded for Cohen
5.08 and 7.09 for Stafford
4.03 for Darwin Thompson
3.03, 5.03, 6.09 for Crowder and 4.12
6.12 for Ryquell Armstead
2.12 for Mecole Hardman
All of these were within the last 2 days
Damien Harris for a 5th (2021)
Ian Thomas for 5.04
I got Ian, I gave up Damien. Basically Damien for Ian which I see as a big win even though it didn't clear roster space. My cuts are still fine to get to 16.
Small other one's that I'm not apart of
4.06 was traded for Cohen
5.08 and 7.09 for Stafford
4.03 for Darwin Thompson
3.03, 5.03, 6.09 for Crowder and 4.12
6.12 for Ryquell Armstead
2.12 for Mecole Hardman
All of these were within the last 2 days
Boston
Footballguy
When I do trades I look at upside and downside and right now I would put far more money on Lamb and Jeudy not being there in most non-2 QB drafts...if a few of the RBs go to bad spots (which is not unusual anymore) you could really be screwed...if you get to the draft and one of them is there then the trade makes more sense but right now you are cashing in a valuable asset for a big question mark that you have no control over...bottom-line for me is this is not the type of deal you need to jump on now...you should easily be able to get the equivalent of this deal whenever you decide to cash out on Evans...IMO this is a panic move based on the fear that Brady and Evans don't gel.
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I don't disagree with anything you are saying in this post. Just really wanted to point out that I think one of those WR's COULD be their but if since Evans value has no reason to change from now till the draft I'd have probably waited and made sure what the top 7 looked like. I guess the counter to that is if you wait, the RB's land well, then maybe you can't get this deal but that's a risk I'd have taken.
And I mentioned I traded Evans away the night it was announced Brady was going to Tampa. I am someone who does not like the fit. Here was my trade.
FFPC:
Gave: Mike Evans
Got: Amari Cooper and Diontae Johnson
As I said I don't like the Evans/Brady pairing, did several trades in this league already clearing roster room so had an open spot, I already have JuJu on this team and all I'll say about Diontae right now is I'm not sure who is the Steelers #1 WR just that I got him.
