I’d take Thomas. I get your reasoning, but don’t think you should have to add anything to Thomas to get that package.FFPC Dynasty $500
Needed to tear things down with one team while still remaining competitive, and adding for the future.
Traded:
WR, Michael Thomas
RB David Montgomery
Received:
RB, Miles Sanders
2020 1st rounder (1.3)
2021 1st rounder (projected top 3 pick)
WR core was MT/Tyreek Hill/Deebo Samuel/JJAW/Curtis Samuel/J. Crowder
RB was Fournette/Ingram/Lindsay/Montgomery
Hoping to land a RB1, or WR1 in the draft with 1.3. Tons of capital for next years draft (2 1st’s, 2 2nd’s) to move around as well.
Didn’t want to part with MT, but how many solid seasons does he have left with Brees? And who will be Brees heir?
I would have waited to trade Gurley Maybe during the season in your case. Gurley in ATL is the best place for him to be as not only the featured back but the passes he’ll be catching. Barkley is awesome but I’m not sure this made your team better for 2020. If your WRs step up (like you said) then you might be golden. Your young TEs have a lot of potential IMHO.Tex that is a great point. Obviously losing Julio as an every week starter probably hurts the most, but I'd like to think my WR core has enough good young players that I could expect one or two to step up and take Julio's place in my lineup. Here is my roster after the trade:
Cousins, Darnold, T. Hill
Barkley, Gordon, Guice, Lindsay, Scott
Hill, AJ Brown, Deebo, Diontae Johnson, Crowder, Preston Williams, Shepard, Isabella, Renfrow, Sims, Harmon
Njoku, Ian Thomas, Smith Jr, Sternberger
Picks 3.3, 3.9
Agree with this...I understand the deal and if you are real high on three rookies this year (meaning you are guaranteed one) I definitely see it but I really don't like adding in Montgomery...I am not high on him but if he hits this year this deal could really backfire as he is still only 23 in June...deal makes much more sense with just Thomas.I’d take Thomas. I get your reasoning, but don’t think you should have to add anything to Thomas to get that package.
I take Lockett here. I like Perriman a little, he should get targets. cooks doesn’t get a ton of targets, stills is old but might get another year of looks with Hopkins gone but will probably miss a few games. pollard isn’t worth much. A bunch of guys whose upside might produce some weeks of wr1-2 numbers if you can guess when, four guys who also are capable of not hitting double digits combined.12 team superflex
Team A gets - B Cooks, Perriman, Stills, Pollard
Team B gets- Lockett
yup a down season when stafford went out + injury.Classic case of Millennial instant gratification not realized. No one should give up on 1st rd pick TEs after one season. Everyone knows the position is slow to show anyway.
Depends on who is trying to compete but that is a ton to give up for someone that isn't the top 1-2 player at his position and has some injury issues. I like Cooper and would move for him but 6 is high enough to get a really good WR in the draft. I like the picks but I could get the argument for Cooper if it will put you over the top for a chip this year.I'd posted this much earlier, but didn't get much outside of Dr Dan...
We have a small wager (me and the chap involved) as to who the consensus thinks won the deal:
10 team ultra competitive PPR:
Amari Cooper
for
1.06 + 2021 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th.
I'd take the Kamara side here as well. I think he gets back to elite this year and they even upgraded in the 3rd. I believe TB gets another RB in the draft so that caps RoJo. It isn't bad if you are big on lottery tickets though.PPR QRRWWWTFKD
team A gave 1.01, RoJo and 3.07
team b gave Kamara, Emmanuel Sanders, 3.04
I take 1.1 and picks and it is easy for me.12 team TE premium ppr, QB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLX, FLX
Sent A.J. Brown, 2021 Late 1st
Received 1.01, 1.12, 3.06, 3.07
Juju by a whole lot. I would run to pay that for him.12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB:
Team A gave - Juju, 2.1 (13)
Team B gave - 2021 1st, Daniel Jones, Mecole Hardman (return yards/TDs count), 4.2
Juju12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB:
Team A gave - Juju, 2.1 (13)
Team B gave - 2021 1st, Daniel Jones, Mecole Hardman (return yards/TDs count), 4.2
This is basically Juju for Hardman, Jones, and 4.2.12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB:
Team A gave - Juju, 2.1 (13)
Team B gave - 2021 1st, Daniel Jones, Mecole Hardman (return yards/TDs count), 4.2
I was offered Fournette for my 1.05 and it was a pretty easy passAlso, I’m trying to sell Fournette everywhere I can. What have you guys seen him go for?
I'd have passed on this as well but I would be shopping Fournette right now.I was offered Fournette for my 1.05 and it was a pretty easy pass
Seen this go down in my 16 team non IDP leagueAlso, I’m trying to sell Fournette everywhere I can. What have you guys seen him go for?
I think the Fournette/TY side for this season but this ages well for 1.02 for me.Seen this go down in my 16 team non IDP league
Fournette + Hilton
for
1.02 + Mike Williams
I don’t like this trade at all. Your RBs aside from Barkley are all questionable starters. I know you need WRs too but I don’t see Godwin as “that guy”. I would have kept the 1.01, and built my team around two stud RBs.Made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynasty league. One of the worst rosters out of my 10 leagues. Man I hope Brady doesn't kill Godwin's rise to greatness we saw last year.
Gave: 1.1, Pettis
Got: Godwin, Cohen, $50 BBID (each team gets $100 for the year)
Roster after trade:
Wentz, Big Ben, Haskins, T. Hill
Barkley, Guice, Lindsay, Cohen, Scott, Darwin Thompson
Godwin, AJ Brown, Mike Williams, Crowder, Samuel, Campbell, AB, Isabella, Sims, JJAW
Fant, OJ Howard
Picks 2.1, 3.1
Just curious dynasty sharks, with this roster would you have made this trade as well?
Well I guess the fact that we have to start 2 RBs vs 3 WRs, and the fact that WRs last so much longer in dynasty, I felt WR was an important get. Perhaps you are right, but I bet I could trade Godwin for a stud RB if I really wanted to. I am actually very happy to have the BBIDs. Should ensure I get this year's Preston Williams or McLaurin when the first waivers run after preseason games (they are locked now and until that time, so guys that go undrafted in the rookie drafts, which McLaurin did in several leagues last year, and Preston did in all 10 of my leagues) I just think having more bucks than anyone else is a huge advantage .I don’t like this trade at all. Your RBs aside from Barkley are all questionable starters. I know you need WRs too but I don’t see Godwin as “that guy”. I would have kept the 1.01, and built my team around two stud RBs.
I agree with this...from a team-building standpoint I like what this deal does for you...it moves AJ Brown to your #2 where I think he is much safer and Williams is a serviceable #3, the rest of your WRs are iffy at best but you now have a foundation...without Godwin it had a chance to be a real mess...as for your RBs you have a stud so now it's all about crossing your fingers and playing the week-to-week game...that 2.1 pick is gonna be a real important one for this team...if you can hit on that it would really help...the strategy of the $ is a wise one as well.Well I guess the fact that we have to start 2 RBs vs 3 WRs, and the fact that WRs last so much longer in dynasty, I felt WR was an important get. Perhaps you are right, but I bet I could trade Godwin for a stud RB if I really wanted to. I am actually very happy to have the BBIDs. Should ensure I get this year's Preston Williams or McLaurin when the first waivers run after preseason games (they are locked now and until that time, so guys that go undrafted in the rookie drafts, which McLaurin did in several leagues last year, and Preston did in all 10 of my leagues) I just think having more bucks than anyone else is a huge advantage .
I think that's a great trade. well done. Thoughts on my 1.1 /Godwin trade? Curious to your take on that one...Gave 2020 1.3, 1.10, and 2.10
Got Mahomes
Tex
Considering you need to start two RBs, I'd rather have a RB with the 1.1 even though Godwin is a good get.Made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynasty league. One of the worst rosters out of my 10 leagues. Man I hope Brady doesn't kill Godwin's rise to greatness we saw last year.
Gave: 1.1, Pettis
Got: Godwin, Cohen, $50 BBID (each team gets $100 for the year)
Roster after trade:
Wentz, Big Ben, Haskins, T. Hill
Barkley, Guice, Lindsay, Cohen, Scott, Darwin Thompson
Godwin, AJ Brown, Mike Williams, Crowder, Samuel, Campbell, AB, Isabella, Sims, JJAW
Fant, OJ Howard
Picks 2.1, 3.1
Just curious dynasty sharks, with this roster would you have made this trade as well?
Man I disagree. I like Godwin there. I think it's close and I don't think either side is bad. I don't think you're ready to compete without Godwin (or another stud WR to pair with AJ Brown). I like your depth receivers but this makes them much stronger. I think Godwin's floor is a WR1 and that his ceiling is a big slot/outside/swiss army knife version of Edelman/Welker/Moss. Either him or Evans or both have 15 TD seasons in their range of outcomes. Beyond Brady Godwin has a bright future ahead of him. He is 24. I just took him at 2.10 in a FFPC dynasty startup so I'mDamn it, I guess I did blow it. I wish this place had a forum that people actually went to, that you could get feedback before you do a trade. But that forum is always dead.
I wouldn't say you blew it. You did acquire one of the game's best young players.Damn it, I guess I did blow it. I wish this place had a forum that people actually went to, that you could get feedback before you do a trade. But that forum is always dead.
Taylor should be considered 1.01 pick however case “could be” made for other players but my data says the pick is Taylor. Now, if Taylor is draft in the 1st round that changes his final comp which id D. Cook and Zeke. So the question to you is would you trade a younger Zeke/Cook for Godwin and Cohen?Made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynasty league. One of the worst rosters out of my 10 leagues. Man I hope Brady doesn't kill Godwin's rise to greatness we saw last year.
Gave: 1.1, Pettis
Got: Godwin, Cohen, $50 BBID (each team gets $100 for the year)
Roster after trade:
Wentz, Big Ben, Haskins, T. Hill
Barkley, Guice, Lindsay, Cohen, Scott, Darwin Thompson
Godwin, AJ Brown, Mike Williams, Crowder, Samuel, Campbell, AB, Isabella, Sims, JJAW
Fant, OJ Howard
Picks 2.1, 3.1
Just curious dynasty sharks, with this roster would you have made this trade as well?
I understand you position but your comments here make me think that there will be WRs available using your BBIDs. Will that be the case for RBs? My concern with this deal is you have to start 2 RBs which means you need at least 3 decent starters. With Gordon going to Denver i don't see Lindsay as a viable option and who knows what will happen with Guice. I would like this trade a lot more of Gordon wasn't in Denver now.Well I guess the fact that we have to start 2 RBs vs 3 WRs, and the fact that WRs last so much longer in dynasty, I felt WR was an important get. Perhaps you are right, but I bet I could trade Godwin for a stud RB if I really wanted to. I am actually very happy to have the BBIDs. Should ensure I get this year's Preston Williams or McLaurin when the first waivers run after preseason games (they are locked now and until that time, so guys that go undrafted in the rookie drafts, which McLaurin did in several leagues last year, and Preston did in all 10 of my leagues) I just think having more bucks than anyone else is a huge advantage .
Ask in the dynasty value thread, you won’t get run out of there for talking valuations/trade offers.Damn it, I guess I did blow it. I wish this place had a forum that people actually went to, that you could get feedback before you do a trade. But that forum is always dead.
JuJu easily. Even if 2019 was his ceiling this deal would be close.12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB:
Team A gave - Juju, 2.1 (13)
Team B gave - 2021 1st, Daniel Jones, Mecole Hardman (return yards/TDs count), 4.2
McLaurin went undrafted in your leagues? In hindsight he was surely underdrafted but went late second to late third in all 5 of my dynasty leagues. Preston also got drafted in all of my leagues - but in fourth and fifth rounds and we draft right after the NFL draft before any OTAs even.Well I guess the fact that we have to start 2 RBs vs 3 WRs, and the fact that WRs last so much longer in dynasty, I felt WR was an important get. Perhaps you are right, but I bet I could trade Godwin for a stud RB if I really wanted to. I am actually very happy to have the BBIDs. Should ensure I get this year's Preston Williams or McLaurin when the first waivers run after preseason games (they are locked now and until that time, so guys that go undrafted in the rookie drafts, which McLaurin did in several leagues last year, and Preston did in all 10 of my leagues) I just think having more bucks than anyone else is a huge advantage .
They both went undrafted in my league, granted we do the rookie draft directly after the NFL draft in May. The hype on these two was really growing by the time we did our free agent draft and they were both picked up for pretty sizable amounts.Dr. Octopus said:McLaurin went undrafted in your leagues? In hindsight he was surely underdrafted but went late second to late third in all 5 of my dynasty leagues. Preston also got drafted in all of my leagues - but in fourth and fifth rounds and we draft right after the NFL draft before any OTAs even.
FWIW, Taylor went 1.11 (godwin 2.11) in recent fpc sf bb draft and for me i prefer the 1.1 side for sure in the aforementioned tradebarackdhouse said:In that same startup, FWIW, Jonathon Taylor went right after me at 2.11 as 1st rookie.
So do we in every league but one which was in June - and he went no later than end of third but went late second in a few. McLauren was a third round draft pick that ran a 4.3 at the combine and was drafted to a team that also drafted his college QB. How did he go undrafted in rookie drafts?They both went undrafted in my league, granted we do the rookie draft directly after the NFL draft in May. The hype on these two was really growing by the time we did our free agent draft and they were both picked up for pretty sizable amounts.
I don’t know what to tell you lol-it’s a 10 man league? FWIW, I would’ve scooped him had I had a 4th. I figured I’d be able to get him at the free agent draft, but by then the hype was huge and I ending up passing on him when his price got too high.So do we in every league but one which was in June - and he went no later than end of third but went late second in a few. McLauren was a third round draft pick that ran a 4.3 at the combine and was drafted to a team that also drafted his college QB. How did he go undrafted in rookie drafts?
Not a huge Mack fan due to the low receptions but getting Ertz makes this a no-brainer.FFPC $500 Dynasty League
Sent Fournette packing.
Traded:
RB, Leonard Fournette
Received:
RB, Marlon Mack
TE, Zach Ertz
Provides some good bench depth for a team that features:
Watson/Kamara/Carson/Ingram/Hill/Diggs/Waller etc.
Just the way this draft is setup, you possibly had a chance to snag a wr at the 2.1 after taking swift/Taylor at 1.1. Yeah, wr was a hole for you prior, rb still is and won't be filled at that 2.1 most likelyffmail4me said:Made this trade in my 12 team PPR dynasty league. One of the worst rosters out of my 10 leagues. Man I hope Brady doesn't kill Godwin's rise to greatness we saw last year.
Gave: 1.1, Pettis
Got: Godwin, Cohen, $50 BBID (each team gets $100 for the year)
Roster after trade:
Wentz, Big Ben, Haskins, T. Hill
Barkley, Guice, Lindsay, Cohen, Scott, Darwin Thompson
Godwin, AJ Brown, Mike Williams, Crowder, Samuel, Campbell, AB, Isabella, Sims, JJAW
Fant, OJ Howard
Picks 2.1, 3.1
Just curious dynasty sharks, with this roster would you have made this trade as well?
Best ball redraft is different than a dynasty startup but yeah I mean I think those two are right next to each other.FWIW, Taylor went 1.11 (godwin 2.11) in recent fpc sf bb draft and for me i prefer the 1.1 side for sure in the aforementioned trade
It wasn't a redraft it was a fpc $250 sf bb dyno startup. you are correct that most have them very close; checking some other similar dbs, taylor going ahead of godwin by so much is a pretty big outlier and i see several where godwin is going ahead of Taylor. I was surprised to see Godwin ahead of Taylor on many if not most dbs since I follow some rankings where Taylor is significantly ahead of him and thats where I land on the subject. I think Godwin is terrific and admittedly I am quite susceptible to rookie fever but i like Taylor over him. FWIW i offered MThomas for the 1.1 in an fpc lg and got a quick rejection.Best ball redraft is different than a dynasty startup but yeah I mean I think those two are right next to each other.
I don't know how FPC works but I can't imagine preferring the 1.1 to Thomas in ANY league.FWIW i offered MThomas for the 1.1 in an fpc lg and got a quick rejection.
That forum is horrible. Although, I'd prefer the 1.1 in that trade, you didn't blow it. It wasn't a horrible trade. Plus, it is really hard to quantify the $50.ffmail4me said:Damn it, I guess I did blow it. I wish this place had a forum that people actually went to, that you could get feedback before you do a trade. But that forum is always dead.