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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (37 Viewers)

Traded away

Antonio Gibson

Diontae Johnson

Traded For

Josh Jacobs

Michael Gallup

Damien Harris

Jacobs and Gibson are only a couple months apart in age, both will be 23 at the start of the season and I think Josh Jacobs is the better player.

Diontae Johnson and Gallup are a little further apart in most peoples rankings, but i would not be surprised if Gallup does more this year. I expect Ben to tank and there is no way that offense can support 3 WR's. On the other hand Gallup is going to play for an offense that can support 3 WR's.

They are the same age, they have very similar PFF player ranks, Gallup has had a thousand yard season already, and Gallup has the better QB. Yet, in most dynasty rankings Gallup is 10 spots behind Johnson.

Damien Harris is going to be a waste of a roster spot. I will be afraid to cut him since he will technically be a starter and he will have 3-4 good weeks this year all of which will be while he is on my bench. During a bye week when I am forced to start him he will put up 5 for 20 with 1 catch for 3 yards.
This isn't terrible and I get your thinking.  Plus, I think Gallup could go somewhere else next year and get more looks.  I also am not as high on Gibson as some of the others here but I think I'd lean slightly that way.  I think it is close though and don't see a problem either way.  Maybe Harris will start off with a couple of good games and you can throw him in another trade for something.

 
12 team PPR league

  • Gave up Miller, Anthony CHI WR; Year 2021 Draft Pick 2.11
  • Got Burrow, Joe CIN QB
Would have used 2.11 to draft WR - all of Dyami Brown, Nico Collins, and Amari Rodgers were available. The other team used it to draft RB Hawkins.
Burrow and it is not remotely close...Burrow has a chance to be a difference-making QB and you got him for practically nothing...Miller is pretty close to being a non-factor in fantasy so not sure what is gained there...at 2.11 there are some nice prospects but that is peanuts to give up for Burrows...I really don't understand what the other guy is thinking here.

 
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Burrow and it is not remotely close...Burrow has a chance to be a difference-making QB and you got him for practically nothing...Miller is pretty close to being a non-factor in fantasy so not sure what is gained there...at 2.11 there are some nice prospects but that is peanuts to give up for Burrows...I really don't understand what the other guy is thinking here.
In fairness, it is a start 1 QB, typical QB scoring PPR league, so QB value is not strong, and he has Mahomes. But I agree this trade was good value. Miller might have been a cut at roster cutdown time.

 
In fairness, it is a start 1 QB, typical QB scoring PPR league, so QB value is not strong, and he has Mahomes. But I agree this trade was good value. Miller might have been a cut at roster cutdown time.
He's still 24 year old potential stud...keep him as your backup to Mahomes and you won't have to deal with the QB position for at least a decade...if you want to deal him than wait till there are a few injuries during the season and someone is in need of a QB and at least get more back...as stated above, I just don't understand what the other guy is thinking...(as you said) Miller is a potential cut and the draft pick is almost a third rounder...this is just giving away a quality asset.

 
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mzkp54 said:
Gave: Michael Carter, Lamical Perine

Got: Will Fuller

12 team PPR SF
I have Fuller and would much rather have Carter at this point but some of this depends on roster construction.

ETA:  Carter has "potential" which is more valuable at this point than what we already know of Fuller.  

 
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12 team TE premium ppr, QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FLX, FLX

Sent

A. Cooper, H. Henry, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd, 2021 3rd, 2022 3rd

Received

K. Allen, T. Lockett, M. Evans

Competing team that had a depth problem, gives me:

RB: Cmc, A. Jones, Zeke

WR: T. Mcclaurin, K. Allen, M. Evans, T. Lockett, K. Golladay

 
I have Fuller and would much rather have Carter at this point but some of this depends on roster construction.

ETA:  Carter has "potential" which is more valuable at this point than what we already know of Fuller.  
Agree with this...if Fuller was still with Watson and the Texans train-wreck I would be higher on him because I don't think his ceiling is the same with the Dolphins...I would rather roll the dice on Carter turning into a legit fantasy RB as it will be tougher to find that than what I believe you will get from Fuller in Miami (although he is only signed for 1 year).

 
12 Team, 1 QB, PPR (not involved).

Team A gets WR Mike Evans, RB Zack Moss, RB JTaylor

Team B gets WR CeeDee Lamb, RB JK Dobbins, RB Alexander Mattison, 2022 2nd round pick.

 
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12 Team, 1 QB, PPR (not involved).

Team A gets WR Mike Evans, RB Zack Moss, RB JTaylor

Team B gets WR CeeDee Lamb, RB JK Dobbins, RB Alexander Mattison, 2022 2nd round pick.
I like Team B's side and will break it down in three phases...Dynasty-wise Lamb is a big upgrade over Evans...Taylor has the potential to be a big-time stud but Dobbins is no slouch and the gap here is not even close to the gap between Lamb and Evans IMO...Mattison and a #2 for Moss is another win for  Team B...you gotta give up a lot to acquire someone like Taylor but there is no reason to make this deal.

 
I like Team B's side and will break it down in three phases...Dynasty-wise Lamb is a big upgrade over Evans...Taylor has the potential to be a big-time stud but Dobbins is no slouch and the gap here is not even close to the gap between Lamb and Evans IMO...Mattison and a #2 for Moss is another win for  Team B...you gotta give up a lot to acquire someone like Taylor but there is no reason to make this deal.
Completely agree, Team B by a good amount. The JT hype is over the moon... Montgomery's value is shredded based on a weak end of the year schedule, but where's the narrative on JT's equally cakewalk finale? I like JT, but I'm not sure he's a better RB or even in a better situation to the point where they shouldn't be equally valued.

The rest is clearly lopsided in B's favor... now I think I'd upgrade this trade from 'win by fair amount' to 'smash accept' after thinking about it a little more.

 
12 Team, 1 QB, PPR (not involved).

Team A gets WR Mike Evans, RB Zack Moss, RB JTaylor

Team B gets WR CeeDee Lamb, RB JK Dobbins, RB Alexander Mattison, 2022 2nd round pick.
I'm very high on Taylor but this is B by a landslide.  Lamb is a big asset over Evans and Dobbins is good as well.  I'd say the 2nd being on the other side might even this out a little and then you could make the argument on the other side if trying to win right now.  I'd still go B but that would make it mostly ok.

 
I like Team B's side and will break it down in three phases...Dynasty-wise Lamb is a big upgrade over Evans...Taylor has the potential to be a big-time stud but Dobbins is no slouch and the gap here is not even close to the gap between Lamb and Evans IMO...Mattison and a #2 for Moss is another win for  Team B...you gotta give up a lot to acquire someone like Taylor but there is no reason to make this deal.
I agree about 99% but *if* I liked Taylor that much more than Dobbins and *if and only if* I were already super strong at WR I would consider this the other way. I also think Moss could easily shoot up in value this year. I don't think the gap between JT and Dobbins is large enough for me to ever do this though. 

 
I agree about 99% but *if* I liked Taylor that much more than Dobbins and *if and only if* I were already super strong at WR I would consider this the other way. I also think Moss could easily shoot up in value this year. I don't think the gap between JT and Dobbins is large enough for me to ever do this though. 
I think Lamb is one of the premiere dynasty assets there is and even if this guy is strong at WR I think he would really regret that part of the deal.

 
I think Lamb is one of the premiere dynasty assets there is and even if this guy is strong at WR I think he would really regret that part of the deal.
I agree with you too but top 5 RBs are a great thing to build your team around.  Just hard to find, hard to predict, and they don't stay there long.  Just don't know why they had to give Mattison and a 2nd back too.

 
12 Team SF

Took this team over this year and my qb room is a mish mash of blah, Goff, Carr, Darnold, Ben.  

Gave Akers and Darnold

Got R Wilson

I have 2 1st's next year and 4 2nd's next year so the plan is to use those to address RB long term either in the draft or via trade, but getting an actual qb 1 gives me a lot of stability for years now where I don't have to chase qb in rookie drafts.

 
12 Team SF

Took this team over this year and my qb room is a mish mash of blah, Goff, Carr, Darnold, Ben.  

Gave Akers and Darnold

Got R Wilson

I have 2 1st's next year and 4 2nd's next year so the plan is to use those to address RB long term either in the draft or via trade, but getting an actual qb 1 gives me a lot of stability for years now where I don't have to chase qb in rookie drafts.
Not sure I like it. Wilson is a bit of fool's gold, IMO. With Akers, I would think you'd have been able to get a younger and probably better option than Wilson.

 
Not sure I like it. Wilson is a bit of fool's gold, IMO. With Akers, I would think you'd have been able to get a younger and probably better option than Wilson.
Kind of what I was thinking...I get the strategy (i.e. you don't want to be chasing QBs in a SF because you usually are dealing from weakness/need), especially with his current group of QBs, but I would have liked the deal to be for a younger QB...that being said when it comes to SF there were probably only a few teams in his league that could give up a legit QB so Wilson may have been the best option.

 
Not sure I like it. Wilson is a bit of fool's gold, IMO. With Akers, I would think you'd have been able to get a younger and probably better option than Wilson.
Russ has 7 top 12 finishes and 4 top 6 finishes so to me you are banking high level production with a very safe floor. He is 33 and qb's are just aging differently now, I honestly wouldn't want the more iffy profile of guys going ahead of him besides Mahomes Dak and then probably Josh Allen.  Rodgers is a better producer but 4 years older and has some drama, then Watson is much better with age but drama.  After that the profiles of guys like Murray and Burrow aren't as solid as Wilson.  Lawrence has no track record it is all projection.  Lamar if he gets a mega contract from Baltimore will be safer then and Herbert definitely looked the part but only has 1 year of a track record.  I just like the safe floor and solid ceiling.  For me anytime you can get a locked in top 12 qb you move almost any RB and Akers looked great to end the year but we have no track record for a full season yet.

 
I think people need to be more aware that "finishes" (i.e. total accumulated points) aren't necessarily a great metric for choosing Player A over Player B. 

Wilson is a great example of this. He was incredible the first half of the season - only to torpedo teams in the second half. If the objective is to win championships, one needs to walk the line between high ceiling and consistency. Yes, that's tough to predict.

But Wilson specifically has shown this trait.

  • In 2020 he threw for more than 2 TDs once after week 7. And five weeks he threw for none or one.
  • In 2019, he didn't throw for more than 2 TDs after week 9 and four times he had a zero or one.  
  • In 2018, he threw for more than 2 tds twice after week 9, but he also had a zero and one.
Wilson is probably a top three QB that I'd want quarterbacking my favorite real life team. He's just not a guy I'm comfortable with having on my fantasy team - which I have. And I haven't looked back once he's subsequently on someone else's team.

 
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I think people need to be more aware that "finishes" (i.e. total accumulated points) aren't necessarily a great metric for choosing Player A over Player B. 

Wilson is a great example of this. He was incredible the first half of the season - only to torpedo teams in the second half. If the objective is to win championships, one needs to walk the line between high ceiling and consistency. Yes, that's tough to predict.

But Wilson specifically has shown this trait.

  • In 2020 he threw for more than 2 TDs once after week 7. And five weeks he threw for none or one.
  • In 2019, he didn't throw for more than 2 TDs after week 9 and four times he had a zero or one.  
  • In 2018, he threw for more than 2 tds twice after week 9, but he also had a zero and one.
Wilson is probably a top three QB that I'd want quarterbacking my favorite real life team. He's just not a guy I'm comfortable with having on my fantasy team - which I have. And I haven't looked back once he's subsequently on someone else's team.
If more than 2 td is the standard Murray is the same and had as many or more 0’s in 2020 and only had 1 rushing td after week 11. Herbert had only two games over 2. Burrow didn’t play the whole year. Lawrence has never played. Lamar had the best finish of the group and has slipped in ado from last year. 
 

If you don’t see Russ as a difference making fantasy qb that’s fine I think the combo of his past performance and contract make him a lot safer than the guys going after Allen and Dak but before him. 

 
Russ has 7 top 12 finishes and 4 top 6 finishes so to me you are banking high level production with a very safe floor. He is 33 and qb's are just aging differently now, I honestly wouldn't want the more iffy profile of guys going ahead of him besides Mahomes Dak and then probably Josh Allen.  Rodgers is a better producer but 4 years older and has some drama, then Watson is much better with age but drama.  After that the profiles of guys like Murray and Burrow aren't as solid as Wilson.  Lawrence has no track record it is all projection.  Lamar if he gets a mega contract from Baltimore will be safer then and Herbert definitely looked the part but only has 1 year of a track record.  I just like the safe floor and solid ceiling.  For me anytime you can get a locked in top 12 qb you move almost any RB and Akers looked great to end the year but we have no track record for a full season yet.
I agree with you that Russ is a solid option.  I think I would have tried for Murray personally but Herbert/Burrow/Lawrence aren't as safe at all so if that is what you want then he isn't a bad option.  Akers is hard to give up but in SF you have to have at least one solid option at QB.  Plus, maybe you get lucky and they trade for Julio.

 
If more than 2 td is the standard Murray is the same and had as many or more 0’s in 2020 and only had 1 rushing td after week 11. Herbert had only two games over 2. Burrow didn’t play the whole year. Lawrence has never played. Lamar had the best finish of the group and has slipped in ado from last year. 
 

If you don’t see Russ as a difference making fantasy qb that’s fine I think the combo of his past performance and contract make him a lot safer than the guys going after Allen and Dak but before him. 
Yes, and I bailed on Murray too.

Anyway, if Russ is your guy, then it's good you got him.

And...I always miss when guys say super flex. In that case, it's a better deal than I first thought.

 
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Earlier in the offseason in an FFPC SF I moved Gibson and a 1st for Wilson to be my 2nd QB behind Murray. I was dealing from a position of weakness/need as was mentioned above as a problem when chasing QBs, but I love Wilson on my squad here. Coming off the ship so not totally from a position of weakness per se. But when combined with a couple other moves I made this offseason, my sober analysis is I'd rather have Gibson and that 1st. Since it looks like my small ball moves to acquire Winston and HIll will probably pay off. And I could have kept Brady instead of selling cheap. So......all in all my 1st and 2nd QB spot is locked in for years to come in a way that I love. But I could be streaming Winston/Brady there and still have Gibson and that 1st. *shrugs*

 
Yes, and I bailed on Murray too.

Anyway, if Russ is your guy, then it's good you got him.

And...I always miss when guys say super flex. In that case, it's a better deal than I first thought.
Agreed it’s a terrible 1 qb league trade. Play qb by committee there and hold onto rb 1s like gold. 

 
Earlier in the offseason in an FFPC SF I moved Gibson and a 1st for Wilson to be my 2nd QB behind Murray. I was dealing from a position of weakness/need as was mentioned above as a problem when chasing QBs, but I love Wilson on my squad here. Coming off the ship so not totally from a position of weakness per se. But when combined with a couple other moves I made this offseason, my sober analysis is I'd rather have Gibson and that 1st. Since it looks like my small ball moves to acquire Winston and HIll will probably pay off. And I could have kept Brady instead of selling cheap. So......all in all my 1st and 2nd QB spot is locked in for years to come in a way that I love. But I could be streaming Winston/Brady there and still have Gibson and that 1st. *shrugs*
I think I wouldn't have made that move if I had 1 QB I liked and others I could play but I don't play SF in dynasty (only redraft).  Gibson (I'm lower on than most in here) and a 1st seems a bit pricey for your QB2 but they are gold in SF so it could still definitely work out for you.

 
12 Team, 1 QB, PPR League (Not Involved)

Team A Got: Miles Sanders, 2022 2nd

Team B Got: Zeke

Team B is firmly in the win now mode.
I think Zeke still has 2 good years left in him and if I'm trying to win (which I usually am), I'd go with that side.  However, if looking to sell Zeke then this isn't a bad cash out.  I'd have really pushed that 2nd to be a 1st, even if I had to wait until 2023 though.  Fair trade though as I'm sure both got what they wanted.

 
12 team 0.5ppr Superflex, also DL/LB/DB + Dflex

Gave Trevor Lawrence, Devin Bush

Got Justin Herbert, Bradley Chubb, 2022 4th, 2022 5th

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The Herbert owner approached me about swapping QB's, and he wanted a LB upgrade.

 
Not involved.

32 team 2 QB, IDP, high kicker scoring.

WR J Chase

DE Chase Y

PK Chase M

for

WR Chase C

RB Chase E

QB Chase D

Was fairly sure everyone knows who Chase is, but put initials anyways.

 
Was fairly sure everyone knows who Chase is, but put initials anyways.
lol. Username checks out, boy-o.

On a serious note, I'm not sure whose side to take because I don't know your defensive scoring rules. I'm inclined to lean towards the Ja'Marr side, but I think that might be chasing things a bit.

 

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