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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (18 Viewers)

Gave - Lockett

Got - rando 2022 1st, playoff team most likely

Full rebuild for me, didn’t see any reason to wait and hope for better
Nice sell!  I tried to move Locket pre-NFL draft and the best offer was a 3rd...  then post draft I got nothing.... 

His value at the time was a late 1st but nobody seems to be willing to buy him at any price in my primary league (12 team PPR)

 
The Bills were among the more pass happy teams in the NFL last season. Moss will split with Singletary and maybe even Breida. I think the main issue though is that Buffalo has (unsuccessfully) looked into upgrading at RB a few different times already.
TY....   I stand corrected.  I looked up how few Rush attempts ....  No question ... my bad

 
SF, TEP(2pt), Devy, 24 teams w/ 2x player pool - QB, RB, WR, TE, 5 Flex, 1 SF

Not involved but I own the other Saquon and 🤢

Team A gets: Barkley, Saquon NYG RB

Team B gets: Jones, Mac NEP QB; Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Parham, Donald LAC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Rookie / Devy Draft Pick (probably late, so 40-48 overall)
Same team that traded away Saquon just traded away Aaron Jones for a 1st and 2nd from the team that won the Championship last year.  24 and 26 years old too old for RBs for him and full rebuild I guess?

 
SF, TEP(2pt), Devy, 24 teams w/ 2x player pool - QB, RB, WR, TE, 5 Flex, 1 SF

Not involved but I own the other Saquon and 🤢

Team A gets: Barkley, Saquon NYG RB

Team B gets: Jones, Mac NEP QB; Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Parham, Donald LAC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Rookie / Devy Draft Pick (probably late, so 40-48 overall)


This seems like not enough for Barkley. 

 
SF, TEP(2pt), Devy, 24 teams w/ 2x player pool - QB, RB, WR, TE, 5 Flex, 1 SF

Not involved but I own the other Saquon and 🤢

Team A gets: Barkley, Saquon NYG RB

Team B gets: Jones, Mac NEP QB; Mariota, Marcus LVR QB; Parham, Donald LAC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Rookie / Devy Draft Pick (probably late, so 40-48 overall)
Oof. Someone got Barkley for peanuts. That's outright horrible.

 
Rashod Bateman, '22 3rd for Marquez Callaway, Kadarius Toney
I’m sold on him so I’d rather have Callaway straight up. Even if you think Callaway is just a flier, Toney was drafted only about 4 to 5 slots after Bateman in my leagues so this seems fair at the least to me. Not that draft slot means a ton but Toney was drafted before Bateman in the real NFL draft as well.

 
Interesting take. Among a handful of players/picks yet to play in the NFL, not really sure how one of them is a coveted asset while the rest are spare parts. 
Bateman has been heralded as one of the top route runners in this class.  You may hate the situation, but he's far and away the most talented person in this trade.

 
Sony is a 1 year purchase and they want to spend that $ and get his worth.  

I realize on a rebuild you need to determine how to shape & build it, but I just think this was giving away more than you got.  
Dude he went to the Rams. Rountree is a Charger. 

But, the trade got protested by two parties and FFPC overturned it, pending my response where I was expected to guarantee I  would keep all 3 players, which of course I intended to. I responded by saying I see Fuller as behind Waddle, Parker, Gesicki, Gaskin, and possibly Albert Wilson and the Unicorn for targets. If his hamstring isn't broken or whatever else is ailing him. Moss is also made of glass and behind Singletary and Allen for carries on a pass first offense. And that I easily had room to keep all three players. Which I do. FFPC accepted my argument and upheld the trade. 

They cited a trade calculator, which I use from time to time as well, that showed it as fairly imbalanced. The thing is, and I have written about this, those calculators have time delays in terms of how soon their analysts update the back end. NFL cuts *just* happened. This particular calc is known to not update except maybe every two months. But it gets used as a proxy for market value and it is often wildly off from reality based not on faulty analysis but rather the time it takes to update. If Jordan or Rountree get on the field early in the season, as I expect them to, their values can be expected to rise. Just making the roster hasn't even hit the DB yet. Anyway I've seen this time delay thing play out sooooooo many times.

I could still be wrong about these 3 dart throws but be right about Moss and Fuller. At least I'm ####### fishing. Ha.

 
I like your side for value. Hopefully you don't have trouble moving Coleman or Tonyan.
I'm satisfied with Tonyan and three 2nds and to just cut Coleman when the time comes. Even if it is this Sunday. I have Carter so I will probably hold Coleman just to see what the Jets do. But this particular squad of mine is going nowhere right now. I have three 1sts and four 2nds now. And I think I made some solid draft picks this year and will hit waivers hard, but my RB1 is Akers/Etienne/Carter at the moment. RB2 is either Coleman, Latavius Murray or whoever I pick up off waiver or in trades. I am strong at WR and QB and have some upside plays at TE that I like. So IDK maybe next year. I love Andrews but this is a liquidation trade. I will try hard to move Tonyan to a contender though.

 
Love Hill and nabbed him in 2 leagues but this seems light for Engram.  Has he fallen that far?
He has in my opinion.  Anything to get him off my roster as he would have never been in my lineup unless my other 2 TEs would have both been injured. 

 
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He has in my opinion.  Anything to get him off my roster as he would have never been in my lineup unless my other 2 TEs would have both been injured. 
I agree.  Engram is almost droppable.  Unless it is a TE premium league then I'd take anything that I liked at all for him.  Glad I don't have any investments in him.

 
Another crappy FFPC rebuilder:

I gave Andrews, A Brown, 6th, 7th
I got Tonyan, T Coleman, 2022 2nd x3


I'm not a fan of Tonyan much - I see a guy who scored way more than his targets should have produced, and that screams regression. 

As such I'm not high on this deal, as I think Tonyan may be droppable by mid-season. 

If I'm wrong about Tonyan I like the deal a lot more. 

 
I'm not a fan of Tonyan much - I see a guy who scored way more than his targets should have produced, and that screams regression. 

As such I'm not high on this deal, as I think Tonyan may be droppable by mid-season. 

If I'm wrong about Tonyan I like the deal a lot more. 
I expect regression but nobody is going to overtake him on the depth chart. I know you said "may" but I think it is a stretch to think he could end up droppable. He will still be a TE1 even with regression. But in this deal the only question is can I move him. I might not. I will need to thread the needle to a contender. Otherwise hope the Packers win the SB so Rodgers stays another year. But I would rather lose all of Tonyan's value than for that blashphemous nonsense to go down. 

 
I expect regression but nobody is going to overtake him on the depth chart. I know you said "may" but I think it is a stretch to think he could end up droppable. He will still be a TE1 even with regression. But in this deal the only question is can I move him. I might not. I will need to thread the needle to a contender. Otherwise hope the Packers win the SB so Rodgers stays another year. But I would rather lose all of Tonyan's value than for that blashphemous nonsense to go down. 


Fair take. I think he's more a ~30 catch, 300 yard, 5-7 TD myself, and more of a TE2 dart throw streamer than a TE1. 

His targets & results just don't look sustainable to me. But hey, maybe the Packers will continue to throw from the 2 all year. I dunno. 

 
Lost Dobbins for the season in my win now 16 team league and I'm wondering which rb I should be angling for with my 2022 1st overall pick (hopefully late).

 
Lost Dobbins for the season in my win now 16 team league and I'm wondering which rb I should be angling for with my 2022 1st overall pick (hopefully late).
I think the first thing you need to do is identify a team that’s willing to give up a running back for a first round pick & go from there.

 
That's the hard part of the process
Definitely. 

you need a rebuilding team Who has either a low RB1 or upside RB2.

once you’ve narrowed that down, come back and list the potential players you could get - asking here is doing it in reverse. No one here can do that heavy lifting for you - we’d all be throwing darts without a dartboard by spitting out “names worth a 2022 1.01”

:shrug:  

 
14 team .5 PPR Dynasty. 1 QB

I gave: Fields

I got: 2022 1st

Likely to be top 3 pick. At worst it's top 5. 
I didn't want to move Fields but felt the value was too strong there. Have Cousins and Wentz at QB. 

 
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14 team .5 PPR Dynasty. 1 QB

I gave: Fields

I got: 2022 1st

Likely to be top 3 pick. At worst it's top 5. 
I didn't want to move Fields but felt the value was too strong there. Have Cousins and Wentz at QB. 
 
1 QB league, gimme the top 3 1st rounder all day. 

I like Fields, but not that much in a 1 QB league. Nice get. 

 
wgoldsph said:
Lost Dobbins for the season in my win now 16 team league and I'm wondering which rb I should be angling for with my 2022 1st overall pick (hopefully late).


Chris Carson, James Robinson, David Montgomery come to mind.

Henderson, Gaskins, Davis are all decent plug-ins that I think are worth less than a 1st (so maybe 1st for one of them plus a 2nd coming back to you).

 
Watson was my QB1/2 in a superflex league and naturally after cut day, I was left in a bind with a 16 team league and not enough QBs to go around on a contending team. Made a pretty cheap deal with a team rebuilding and in need of any warm body at TE:

I gave : Tyler Conklin, 2022 Devy 5th Round Pick
I got : Ben Roethlisberger

 
Watson was my QB1/2 in a superflex league and naturally after cut day, I was left in a bind with a 16 team league and not enough QBs to go around on a contending team. Made a pretty cheap deal with a team rebuilding and in need of any warm body at TE:

I gave : Tyler Conklin, 2022 Devy 5th Round Pick
I got : Ben Roethlisberger


 Good lord that's a terrible return on big Ben in a 16 team SF. 

 
 Good lord that's a terrible return on big Ben in a 16 team SF. 
I did feel kinda bad, but hey whatever it took to get a Q2 I was pretty much gonna accept. I offered him IMO way better TEs because I have a glut of them. He needed a TE, I needed a QB, he asked for a 5th and I rushed to accept.

 
Season over season makeover now that I'm all but set except for some WW taxi squad fun I'm going to have the next few days:

2020 Season Ending SB runner-up starters (PPR, TE Premium, Devy)

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers
RBs - Derrick Henry, DeAndre Swift
WRs - Robert Woods, DJ Moore
TE - Dallas Goedert
Flex - Antonio Brown, Keke Coutee, Chase Claypool, Robert Tonyan

2021 Presumptive Starters and key bench (Akers is on IR....doh)

QBs - Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger
RBs - Christian McCaffrey, James Conner
WRs - Calvin Ridley, Robert Woods
TE - Kyle Pitts
Flex - Antonio Brown, Robert Tonyan, Chase Claypool, Parris Campbell (or Pat Freiermuth, currently on Taxi)

How I got here in making all kinds of offseason trades (only ones including offense as we're also IDP):
 

Apr 20th
I gave : Derrick Henry, Eddie Jackson, Kendrick Bourne, DJ Moore, 2021 1st Round Devy Pick
I got : Christian McCaffrey, Calvin Ridley

May 6th
I gave : Robert Woods, Dallas Goedert, DeAndre Swift
I got : Marvin Jones, Kyle Pitts, Cam Akers  :sadbanana:

Aug 30th
I gave : Keke Coutee, 2022 3rd Round Devy Pick
I got : Parris Campbell

Aug 30th
I gave : Marvin Jones, Jadon Haselwood (2022 Devy WR, Oklahoma), Myles Murphy (2024 Devy DL, Clemson)
I got : Robert Woods, Rayshawn Jenkins, 2022 6th Round Devy Pick

Sept 1st
I gave : Tyler Conklin, 2022 5th Round Devy Pick
I got : Ben Roethlisberger

 
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Watson was my QB1/2 in a superflex league and naturally after cut day, I was left in a bind with a 16 team league and not enough QBs to go around on a contending team. Made a pretty cheap deal with a team rebuilding and in need of any warm body at TE:

I gave : Tyler Conklin, 2022 Devy 5th Round Pick
I got : Ben Roethlisberger
if Big Ben was retired and 60 years old this would still be a train wreck of a deal.

 
14 team .5 PPR Dynasty. 1 QB

I gave: Fields

I got: 2022 1st

Likely to be top 3 pick. At worst it's top 5. 
I didn't want to move Fields but felt the value was too strong there. Have Cousins and Wentz at QB. 
I love this deal for you in a 1 QB league if the pick is going to be that high.  Good move even if Feilds is going to be good.  He isn't even a starter now and plays for the Bears.  I expect good things but I'd smash except for a top 5 pick.

 
Was just offered this deal and am debating because I have a few older WRs and depth could be an issue:

I’d give : Parris Campbell, Justyn Ross

I’d get : Jerry Jeudy

 
Yeah only real hesitation is my next current Devy WR would be Emeka Egbuka in 2024 and probably has me hoping to grab a breakout star next draft but I shouldn’t overthink this…I went from next to no WRs to being flush with them. 

 
Curious what people think of this one. I was not involved. 2QB League. 
 

Team A gave: Justin Fields, Andy Dalton, 2022 1st

Team B gave: Deshaun Watson

Team A’s other QB’s prior to the trade: Jared Goff, Trey Lance, Dak 

Team B’s other QB’s prior to trade: Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love 

 
Curious what people think of this one. I was not involved. 2QB League. 
 

Team A gave: Justin Fields, Andy Dalton, 2022 1st

Team B gave: Deshaun Watson

Team A’s other QB’s prior to the trade: Jared Goff, Trey Lance, Dak 

Team B’s other QB’s prior to trade: Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love 
Getting Fields and a 1st is what breaks that side for me. Fields alone is probably worth as much or more than Watson. Upside for Team B is huge. Might get an equal QB and has a 2022 1st it clearly doesn’t need to consider QB on or can trade if desired = $$$

 
Getting Fields and a 1st is what breaks that side for me. Fields alone is probably worth as much or more than Watson. Upside for Team B is huge. Might get an equal QB and has a 2022 1st it clearly doesn’t need to consider QB on or can trade if desired = $$$
This is basically how I feel as well. So much risk for Team A when he was essentially set at QB. 

 

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