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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (24 Viewers)

I’m getting railed for this on a separate forum lol. It’s fine, I mostly expected that. I’m happy with it. 🤷🏽‍♂️
 

I rarely use calculators, but just out of curiously I plugged it into KTC after the fact. It has me winning it just barely, with all the 23’ picks entered as late. 


That’s too much. Give me D.J. and the pick. 

 
12 Team PPR

Team A: gets T.Hill and 2023 2nd (Would be 2.10 this tear(

Team B gets Devonte Smith and 2023 1st (Would be 1.01 this year and the team is horrendous, probably the worst I've ever seen)

 
12 Team PPR

Team A: gets T.Hill and 2023 2nd (Would be 2.10 this tear(

Team B gets Devonte Smith and 2023 1st (Would be 1.01 this year and the team is horrendous, probably the worst I've ever seen)
With the team being that bad I would take the pick too and hope for a top pick in a great draft.  This is why bad teams stay bad.

 
This isn't a confirmed trade - but discussions are heating up and want to get some thoughts on this.

10 Team/2RB/2WR/+Flex PPR League

CMC, Damien Harris, Mike Evans + '22 (3.02) '22 (3.08)

for

Gabriel Davis, '22 (1.01), '23 1st (likely early)

This guy struggles with rookies, been burned a few times and wants to immediately improve his team.  Likes the chances that CMC scores 25 ppg.  The 3 guys I'm offering instantly become starters on his team.  I would probably go RB with both these firsts and hope to hit on the next CMC.  I still have: Zeke, Gibson, Najee, Fournette to hold me through some of the rookie growing pains, but would likely be sacrificing a legit shot at the championship this year if CMC remains healthy, etc.

Trade calcs grade it out and this guy loves trade calculators - is there something I am missing or am I robbing him?

 
Well my goal of completely owning the 2023 draft class continues. I just pulled the trigger on this one:

10 Man, PPR 2QB TE Premium

Gave: 2024 1st(still have 4), 2022 2.05, 2022 2.06

Received: 2023 1st(mid to late), 2023 2nd(it will be 2.01)

That gives me 7 2023 1sts now, and 3 2nds. And the 2nd I just acquired is my own pick so I can guarantee that it will be 2.01. 

 
Well my goal of completely owning the 2023 draft class continues. I just pulled the trigger on this one:

10 Man, PPR 2QB TE Premium

Gave: 2024 1st(still have 4), 2022 2.05, 2022 2.06

Received: 2023 1st(mid to late), 2023 2nd(it will be 2.01)

That gives me 7 2023 1sts now, and 3 2nds. And the 2nd I just acquired is my own pick so I can guarantee that it will be 2.01. 
not sure what’s in it for the other owner…

 
That gives me 7 2023 1sts now, and 3 2nds. And the 2nd I just acquired is my own pick so I can guarantee that it will be 2.01. 
I think that is way too many picks in one round.  I don't care how good the draft is there will be more busts than hits.  It is always that way.  I would be looking to move some of those picks for proven talent as the draft approaches.  Three picks would be the max I would want to actually use.  

 
In 10 team superflex/te premium, picks 15 and 16 aren't bad this year.  Let's say it goes 4 qbs, 3 rbs, 6 wrs, and 1 te through 14 picks... you should still have a couple good prospects. 
Yeah, for sure. I still have 2.03 so I’m glad I was able to hang onto that. May try and snag a Howell, Corral or Ridder there. 

 
I think that is way too many picks in one round.  I don't care how good the draft is there will be more busts than hits.  It is always that way.  I would be looking to move some of those picks for proven talent as the draft approaches.  Three picks would be the max I would want to actually use.  
2020 the only busts that really come to mind are CEH and maybe Ruggs? If he was even a 1st in most leagues. I guess if you wanted to say Tua? Too early to county Jeudy as a miss imo with Russ now in town. I don’t think Jalen Reagor was a 1st in most leagues, at least he wasn’t in mine. 
 

but I understand your point. Most years, yes. But I’ve been diving heavily into this class the last 6 months and I’ve fallen in love, for better or worse. Will some of these guys underwhelm? Certainly. But it’ll be a fun ride regardless. 

 
2020 the only busts that really come to mind are CEH and maybe Ruggs? If he was even a 1st in most leagues. I guess if you wanted to say Tua? Too early to county Jeudy as a miss imo with Russ now in town. I don’t think Jalen Reagor was a 1st in most leagues, at least he wasn’t in mine. 
 

but I understand your point. Most years, yes. But I’ve been diving heavily into this class the last 6 months and I’ve fallen in love, for better or worse. Will some of these guys underwhelm? Certainly. But it’ll be a fun ride regardless. 
Even if all of the first round become serviceable there will be slow starters or guys that won't really "hit" until the 2nd or 3rd year.  Having that many guys at the same level of NFL experience is a detriment in my opinion.  You need a build that has a variety of year level to be and stay relevant.  Rookies are shiny and new and have all the potential in the world.  Having too many is a detriment, IMO.  

Those picks have value especially with how highly touted that class seems to be.  I think you will be able to get a lot out of those picks but I would use that value to obtain younger NFL players that have shown they can get it down in the NFL.  I think that is how you maximize that value from those picks.  

 
Even if all of the first round become serviceable there will be slow starters or guys that won't really "hit" until the 2nd or 3rd year.  Having that many guys at the same level of NFL experience is a detriment in my opinion.  You need a build that has a variety of year level to be and stay relevant.  Rookies are shiny and new and have all the potential in the world.  Having too many is a detriment, IMO.  

Those picks have value especially with how highly touted that class seems to be.  I think you will be able to get a lot out of those picks but I would use that value to obtain younger NFL players that have shown they can get it down in the NFL.  I think that is how you maximize that value from those picks.  
Yeah, this is definitely a multi-year rebuild. I have 4 1sts in 2024 as well. And these 2023 picks are only going to continue getting hyped and gain value leading up to next years draft, so I’m sure I’ll start getting offers for them. If an opportunity presents itself and I can move a couple for established, young players you bet I will. 

 
This isn't a confirmed trade - but discussions are heating up and want to get some thoughts on this.

10 Team/2RB/2WR/+Flex PPR League

CMC, Damien Harris, Mike Evans + '22 (3.02) '22 (3.08)

for

Gabriel Davis, '22 (1.01), '23 1st (likely early)

This guy struggles with rookies, been burned a few times and wants to immediately improve his team.  Likes the chances that CMC scores 25 ppg.  The 3 guys I'm offering instantly become starters on his team.  I would probably go RB with both these firsts and hope to hit on the next CMC.  I still have: Zeke, Gibson, Najee, Fournette to hold me through some of the rookie growing pains, but would likely be sacrificing a legit shot at the championship this year if CMC remains healthy, etc.

Trade calcs grade it out and this guy loves trade calculators - is there something I am missing or am I robbing him?
I don't think you are robbing him.  CMC is easily worth 2 1sts (I just gave 3 for him but they will all be way late).  You are also including Evans.  Some people are way higher on Gabe Davis than others.

Plus, with those added players on his team, that 23 pick might not end up being as early as you think.  This seems fair but you have enough RB depth, you can afford it.  I think this comes down to how much you like Hall or whoever you end up taking at 1.

 
Well my goal of completely owning the 2023 draft class continues. I just pulled the trigger on this one:

10 Man, PPR 2QB TE Premium

Gave: 2024 1st(still have 4), 2022 2.05, 2022 2.06

Received: 2023 1st(mid to late), 2023 2nd(it will be 2.01)

That gives me 7 2023 1sts now, and 3 2nds. And the 2nd I just acquired is my own pick so I can guarantee that it will be 2.01. 
This seems really dumb for the other owner honestly but good move for you.  That is a lot to put in to the 23 draft.  I do like it a lot but a lot can happen between now and then and experts can be wrong so if that draft disappoints, you may have sold way to hard for that draft and would set you back for years but I like this move a lot for you.

 
2020 the only busts that really come to mind are CEH and maybe Ruggs? If he was even a 1st in most leagues. I guess if you wanted to say Tua? Too early to county Jeudy as a miss imo with Russ now in town. I don’t think Jalen Reagor was a 1st in most leagues, at least he wasn’t in mine. 
 

but I understand your point. Most years, yes. But I’ve been diving heavily into this class the last 6 months and I’ve fallen in love, for better or worse. Will some of these guys underwhelm? Certainly. But it’ll be a fun ride regardless. 
It depends on how you look at it too.  Akers/Dobbins haven't been amazing for more than a few games really due to injury and light usage early on.  Jeudy definitely hasn't been a stud by any means.  CEH/Tua/Reagor/Ruggs all went close so depends on the league. 

You are in a 10 teamer so that does change things and give less bust chance in the 1st than a normal 12 man league.  You are right I expect more from those players this year but taking a bit to get proper value from them and no way to know if they ever pan out completely.  I like the 23 draft though, currently have 3 1sts/2 2nds, and would like a little more so I don't blame you.

 
In a vacuum I take the Pittman side but as some one that recently “overpaid” for Gibson I know there always a RB tax.
And my roster could afford to take the hit at WR as I still have McLaurin, Godwin, Diontae Johnson, Mike Evans, DeVonta Smith, Crowder, Cedrick Wilson, Campbell, etc...

 
FFPC, not involved

Gabriel Davis and 1.12

for

1.4
Most years I'd say that is great value for Davis (and it really is, regardless). As we get closer to the draft though, I have a solidifying top 3 and can definitely see the merits of trading out of 4, getting whatever slides to 12 + a high upside/young WR. 

 
TVT 0 N S T A said:
This isn't a confirmed trade - but discussions are heating up and want to get some thoughts on this.

10 Team/2RB/2WR/+Flex PPR League

CMC, Damien Harris, Mike Evans + '22 (3.02) '22 (3.08)

for

Gabriel Davis, '22 (1.01), '23 1st (likely early)

This guy struggles with rookies, been burned a few times and wants to immediately improve his team.  Likes the chances that CMC scores 25 ppg.  The 3 guys I'm offering instantly become starters on his team.  I would probably go RB with both these firsts and hope to hit on the next CMC.  I still have: Zeke, Gibson, Najee, Fournette to hold me through some of the rookie growing pains, but would likely be sacrificing a legit shot at the championship this year if CMC remains healthy, etc.

Trade calcs grade it out and this guy loves trade calculators - is there something I am missing or am I robbing him?
I would want the ‘22 1.01 & ‘23 early 1st side + GDavis, but it isn’t a bargain. That’s a lot of present day capital to pay - CMC still a top RB so long as healthy, Evans a legit WR1 in a great offense for at least a year, Harris is…uh…Harris (I got nuthin)

So yeah, I’m on the picks side of this one, but I also think the calcs are correct that it’s pretty even. 

 
Gally said:
I think that is way too many picks in one round.  I don't care how good the draft is there will be more busts than hits.  It is always that way.  I would be looking to move some of those picks for proven talent as the draft approaches.  Three picks would be the max I would want to actually use.  
Depends on the draft, but yes, a % will be busts. 2023 is being compared by some to 2017 & 2015 .  The top 3 picks in 2015 1-QB were (in some order) Gurley, Gordon & Amari Cooper. They all worked out pretty well. 2/3 are still kicking, and Gurley was a superstar before the bottom dropped out.  There are quite a few misses in that draft as well (top 2 QBs were Winston & Mariota, for example).

I have 6x 2023 1sts, including likely 1-4, and very likely 2.01 in SF. 

Depending on how things go in the 2022 college season (and if I do indeed have the 1st 4 picks, and depending on landing spots), it’s likely I use those top 4 picks. 

But I would be open to dealing those 2x later 1sts and even the 2.01, but at the same time, if a % of players are going to be busts, isn’t it better to get two more potential future stars? 

It all depends what I’m being offered, but for now I’m not planning to move any picks until the day of the draft. Bird in the hand is safer, but the one in the bush is potentially more fun. 

I’m not sure what “the right number” of 1st round picks is for a given draft. Looking at ‘23, I wouldn’t mind having all 12. lol 

 
12 team PPR dynasty

Gave: Michael Pittman and 1.12 

Got: Gibson and 2.3 
I want to say Gibson but with WAS bringing in Hall, Walker and Spiller as part of their top 30 visits I'm scared to buy him right now. Now sure what I'd do if I got this offer for Pittman and 12 but I know if Gibson survives the draft without an addition of the magnitude of those 3 RB's I'd jump on this offer.

 
16 team IDP PPR TE Premium (Was franchise player trade)

I gave up D Hopkins Arz WR

I got Claypool Pitt WR, 1.15 and a 2023 4th round pick

Was a franchise player trade I had Hopkins for the past 8 years his contract ran out I franchised him so I get him 1 more year or accept this offer (was my only blind bid offer)  If you don't get a decent enough offer you can elect to keep the guy but it cost you another $25 next year and that will be his last year before hitting RFA (unless you accept a blind bid next year)

Very complicated league but really amazing to play in.  Just like being a real NFL GM or as close as it gets.

 
Check out this FFPC whopper that just went down. I'm not involved, standard:

Lamb, Barkley, Etienne, JuJu and 1.10

For

Chase, 1.3, 1.5 and a 2023#1 that could literally be anywhere but I would not list this team as top 3-4 in leagues.

I'd just add the team getting Chase probably has best collection of young premier studs and overall youth/picks I can recall any team having. He has likely top RB(Taylor), two top WR's (Chase, Jefferson), top TE(Pitts) plus some other good young players  and picks 3,5, 7 and two 2023#1's.  I'd take that team over any team of mine.
Holy moly now THAT'S a trade.  I just can't fathom that someone would be willing to give up Chase AND three firsts.  If Chase is worth 3 himself then you're selling 6 firsts.

But then again, let's say Lamb is worth 2 firsts (and maybe more).  Barkley is worth at least one, Etienne is worth one, Juju worth maybe a 1.12 (he was sold in my league the other day for the '22 1.11 so it's possible), and then you get the 1.10 so that's 6 firsts coming back at minimum (and more if you really believe in Lamb and/or Barkley).  

I'd prefer the Chase side myself, but I can see the other side of it if you need more pieces.  Whooo that's a big boy trade for sure though

 
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I’ll take the pick, but it’s close. In SF the mere possibility that Mitch could necessitate his career makes him worth taking a flier on. ‘Mouth is a nice player. But I love me that ‘23 1st. Any idea where it is? 


I still have Burrow, Dak, and Rodgers at QB and Pitts and Kmet among others at TE.

He has the 9th pick this year but honestly I don't think his team is that great.

 
Gally said:
Even if all of the first round become serviceable there will be slow starters or guys that won't really "hit" until the 2nd or 3rd year.  Having that many guys at the same level of NFL experience is a detriment in my opinion.  You need a build that has a variety of year level to be and stay relevant.  Rookies are shiny and new and have all the potential in the world.  Having too many is a detriment, IMO.  

Those picks have value especially with how highly touted that class seems to be.  I think you will be able to get a lot out of those picks but I would use that value to obtain younger NFL players that have shown they can get it down in the NFL.  I think that is how you maximize that value from those picks.  
I just wonder what was there before. To garner all those picks there had to be some talent before. That is a lot of seasons to pay for while the rebuild happens.

 
I just wonder what was there before. To garner all those picks there had to be some talent before. That is a lot of seasons to pay for while the rebuild happens.
Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, Derrick Henry, Aaron Jones, George Kittle. It sounds like a sick squad on paper, but at the midpoint of last season I had just went 0-2(we play two games per week) and dropped to 7th place in the league. I had a decision to make-either remain middling and maybe squeak into the playoffs as a 6 seed, or tear it down. I went with the latter. And I decided to do this just in the nick of time because the very next week after I sold Henry he went down with injury. I moved all the above players save Kittle in like a 1 week span. 
 

No regrets here. 
 

Forgot about Eli Mitchell. I sold a little low on him(what ended up being the 2022 2.03) but the rest of the trades I likely won, some of them overwhelmingly. Example-For Henry I received a 2022 2nd, two 2022 4ths, 2023 1st and 2nd, and a 2024 1st. 

 
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Picked up an orphan last week and make a few quick trades to get some talent on the roster.

FFPC, 1 QB

total of both trade 

Gave: TrevorLawrence, 1.04, 1.07, 2,07

Got:AJ Dillon, Devonta Smith, ‘23 1st (likely top 6 overall pick), 3.09, ‘23 5th

not big wins but got two young players that I think have shown they can play in this league instead of trying to guess the 1st round hits in this class at 4 and 7. Got what looks to be a good pick in 23

 

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