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12 team SF TE Prem is 1.5 PPR start 11, pretty large deal...

Gave Javonte Williams, Davante Adams, 1.06, Irv Smith and Tyler Conklin

Got Mark Andrews, Jaylen Waddle, Austin Ekeler, 2023 2nd round pick.

I was going to have to start irv or higbee at TE and I like fixing TE in prem leagues for the long term.  I think Javonte and Andrews are really close in this format.  Adams probably outscores Waddle this year but Waddle should be good.  I like Ekeler better than 1.06 in this draft.  Irv and Conklin for a 23 2nd felt fair to me.

Safeleague format, SF 2 TE PPR start 10

Give 1.08, 2.01, 2.04 4.01

Get Diontae Johnson, 2.06 2.08 and 4.10

I like getting Johnson here and am happy to slide back some in round 2.  2.01 could be a day 1 WR but other than that the rest are day 2 WR's, Day 2 QB's, and Day 2 and 3 RB's, so 2.04-2.08 feels pretty flat.  

Safeleagues same as above 6 pt passing TD - 2 INT

Gave Lamar, a 23 1st from a team that isn't mine, my 23 3rd

Got Mahomes and a 23 4th

In this format I love Mahomes, I still have my own 23 1st.

Can't wait for rookie drafts in a couple weeks now!
Trade 1:  I prefer the Williams, Adams side by quite a bit.  I think Irv will be just fine and Williams and Adams are tough to beat.  

Trade 2:  I take the player side.  Picks are meh and you know what you have in Johnson

Trade 3:  For a SF where it's 6 pts all TD's that knocks the running advantage down a notch for Lamar.  I lean the Mahomes side on this one but not by a whole lot. 

 
Sure, I drafted him in the mid 1st this past year, and this offer made me check all news sources for Eli Mitchell injury news or something like that to understand why he wanted Sermon (he doesn’t own any SF RBs), but I don’t think I could’ve passed up this chance to "sell high" ;)  
Mitchell did have knee surgery to "clean up" some stuff.  Maybe that is the news that prompted this trade.  

 
Mitchell did have knee surgery to "clean up" some stuff.  Maybe that is the news that prompted this trade.  
There are also quite a few reports of the Niners not giving up on Sermon, wanting to get him more involved, etc.

They invested draft capital in him, & moved up to get him. I’m sure they’d like to see him have success.

IMO the FF community has written him off way too quickly. 

 
There are also quite a few reports of the Niners not giving up on Sermon, wanting to get him more involved, etc.

They invested draft capital in him, & moved up to get him. I’m sure they’d like to see him have success.

IMO the FF community has written him off way too quickly. 
I am right there with you.  I thought Sermon was going to be the guy.  I loved him going to SF and thought he was going to crush it.  I still think he can get there although Mitchell did surprise me with how well he did.  I do think Mitchell will get dinged and miss games every year though which may give Sermon a chance to exit the doghouse.  

 
Traded Metcalf this morning also. 12 team PPR, 1-2-3-1-flex:

Metcalf + ‘23 2nd (mid-late) + ‘23 3rd (mid-late)

for

1.04 + ‘23 1st (likely late) + Devin Devurnay (to equal rosters)

I now have 3 extra ‘23 1sts in addition to my own although they all look like likely playoff teams. I still have Lamb, Godwin, Diontae at WR as well although I have been trading like crazy this off-season so we’ll see who sticks lol.

 
Traded Metcalf this morning also. 12 team PPR, 1-2-3-1-flex:

Metcalf + ‘23 2nd (mid-late) + ‘23 3rd (mid-late)

for

1.04 + ‘23 1st (likely late) + Devin Devurnay (to equal rosters)

I now have 3 extra ‘23 1sts in addition to my own although they all look like likely playoff teams. I still have Lamb, Godwin, Diontae at WR as well although I have been trading like crazy this off-season so we’ll see who sticks lol.
It’s a fair deal. 

Even if it’s 9-10-11-12, you’re likely going to get quality players with those picks, though in a 1-QB league they won’t be quite as good as a 2-QB League.  Still, likely 5 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE & 2 QB will go in the 1st round in some order. And the 3-4-5 WR next year compare well to the top 5 WR this year, IMO.

if you’re divesting from Metcalf, getting 2x 1sts isn’t a bad return. 

 
Trade 1:  I prefer the Williams, Adams side by quite a bit.  I think Irv will be just fine and Williams and Adams are tough to beat.  

Trade 2:  I take the player side.  Picks are meh and you know what you have in Johnson

Trade 3:  For a SF where it's 6 pts all TD's that knocks the running advantage down a notch for Lamar.  I lean the Mahomes side on this one but not by a whole lot. 
Andrews had 354 points in that format last year and if you combine Gordon and Javonte it was just over 400, I don't think Williams is going all the way up to 100% of that workload.  For me replacing RB with an injury away guy is a lot easier than fixing TE and fixing RB long term in a rookie draft is easier than guessing on TE when we don't have a Pitts in it.

As for Irv we don't have any real data 2 years in supporting long term success for him and I can't remember the last time the Vikings had a top 6 TE, but I understand he is young and had draft pedigree.

I don't think it is a slam dunk for me, but I do like how Andrews and Waddle work as long term plays and Ekeler should be excellent again this year and his ability to catch the ball should age well and I got a future pick in the better draft next year.

 
Andrews had 354 points in that format last year and if you combine Gordon and Javonte it was just over 400, I don't think Williams is going all the way up to 100% of that workload.  For me replacing RB with an injury away guy is a lot easier than fixing TE and fixing RB long term in a rookie draft is easier than guessing on TE when we don't have a Pitts in it.

As for Irv we don't have any real data 2 years in supporting long term success for him and I can't remember the last time the Vikings had a top 6 TE, but I understand he is young and had draft pedigree.

I don't think it is a slam dunk for me, but I do like how Andrews and Waddle work as long term plays and Ekeler should be excellent again this year and his ability to catch the ball should age well and I got a future pick in the better draft next year.
I think some of it is that there are a couple guys I just don't trust on the other side.  Both Andrews and Ekeler scare me from the injury risk side.  I have just never been eager to have those two.  They have performed well I just have a negative feel about them.  Plus I really like both Javonte and Davante.  So it's much of a case of guys I like vs guys I don't.  

 
Traded Metcalf this morning also. 12 team PPR, 1-2-3-1-flex:
Funny, I sent offers out to all teams (3) that had multiple mid to high first round picks.  Offered Metcalf for 2x 1sts to all three of them and all rejected.  A couple responded they'd rather have 2 vs 1 player because its best ball.  

 
Funny, I sent offers out to all teams (3) that had multiple mid to high first round picks.  Offered Metcalf for 2x 1sts to all three of them and all rejected.  A couple responded they'd rather have 2 vs 1 player because its best ball.  
In hindsight I should have maybe shopped more. The 1.4 owner reached out to me a few days ago and after some back and forth this is what we landed on (he took over his team mid-season after an owner bailed and has made some good trades plus is getting Henry back from injury.)

 
FFPC 12team 1QB league

gave: Sermon

got: 2023 2nd (likely mid)

the other team offered it to me out of the blue and I wasn’t expecting it at all (not shopping Sermon since I assume he’s generally dead weight to most).  Sermon was around my 15th or 16th keeper in this Keep 16 format. Sure, I drafted him in the mid 1st this past year, and this offer made me check all news sources for Eli Mitchell injury news or something like that to understand why he wanted Sermon (he doesn’t own any SF RBs), but I don’t think I could’ve passed up this chance to "sell high" ;)  
It did just come out that Mitchell had a cleanup procedure on his knee in the offseason but not enough for this.  I'd have taken that deal.

 
12 team SF TE Prem is 1.5 PPR start 11, pretty large deal...

Gave Javonte Williams, Davante Adams, 1.06, Irv Smith and Tyler Conklin

Got Mark Andrews, Jaylen Waddle, Austin Ekeler, 2023 2nd round pick.

I was going to have to start irv or higbee at TE and I like fixing TE in prem leagues for the long term.  I think Javonte and Andrews are really close in this format.  Adams probably outscores Waddle this year but Waddle should be good.  I like Ekeler better than 1.06 in this draft.  Irv and Conklin for a 23 2nd felt fair to me.

Safeleague format, SF 2 TE PPR start 10

Give 1.08, 2.01, 2.04 4.01

Get Diontae Johnson, 2.06 2.08 and 4.10

I like getting Johnson here and am happy to slide back some in round 2.  2.01 could be a day 1 WR but other than that the rest are day 2 WR's, Day 2 QB's, and Day 2 and 3 RB's, so 2.04-2.08 feels pretty flat.  

Safeleagues same as above 6 pt passing TD - 2 INT

Gave Lamar, a 23 1st from a team that isn't mine, my 23 3rd

Got Mahomes and a 23 4th

In this format I love Mahomes, I still have my own 23 1st.

Can't wait for rookie drafts in a couple weeks now!
1st - I like J-Will/Adams too much to go the other way even in TE premium.  Andrews/Waddle/Ek are good but I'd go the other way pretty easily.

2nd - I'd go with Diontae over the picks in a weaker draft.  So that was a good move as he is worth 1.08 and the other ones are close enough.

3rd - I'd take Mahomes easily in this format.  I like Lamar but when running TD value is depressed, I'd go the other way.  Plus, who knows if last year is a sign of things to come from an injury standpoint.

 
Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium leagues  :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (likely mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 

 
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Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium league :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (like mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 
Lovvvve that move for you. Well done. 

 
Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium leagues  :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (likely mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 
I was offered Hill for Bateman and my future 1st (likely mid) back in Feb and turned it down. I think you did quite well here.

 
joey said:
Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium leagues  :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (likely mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 
I made a big move for Tyreek before he was traded and would easily accept this now. Great deal. I earned the double whammy in mine because I have Waddle as well. Wasn't planning on stacking them.

 
Guy that carpet bombs our league with bad trade offers has offered me 

0.5ppr start 1QB 

Josh Palmer for a ‘23 3rd ( liable to be late ) 

I know Williams signed a new contract and we are meant to be collating 23 picks,  but I’m kind of tempted by it tbh, as I like what Palmer has shown so far. 
 

What say people ? 

 
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Guy that carpet bombs our league with bad trade offers has offered me 

0.5ppr start 1QB 

Josh Palmer for a ‘23 3rd ( liable to be late ) 

I know Williams signed a new contract and we are meant to be collating 23 picks,  but I’m kind of tempted by it tbh, as I like what Palmer has shown so far. 
 

What say people ? 
Fairest trade offer ever ;)  

I have Palmer in a couple of leagues and he was literally my last keeper out of 16. I like what he showed as well and was really hoping that Mike Williams wouldn’t re-sign but alas…

 
14 team PPR TE 1.5

Gave up 1.14, 4.07

Got

2023 1st round pick

Hard to know where the pick will end up as there was a 3 team dispersal draft and this was 1 of the 3 teams so nothing to base off last season since that don't exist.

Team was without a 1st round pick this year so he probably wanted to get into the draft.  If I had to take a blind guess I am thinking the pick will be a mid 1st based on current roster.

 
14 team PPR TE 1.5

Gave up 1.14, 4.07

Got

2023 1st round pick

Hard to know where the pick will end up as there was a 3 team dispersal draft and this was 1 of the 3 teams so nothing to base off last season since that don't exist.

Team was without a 1st round pick this year so he probably wanted to get into the draft.  If I had to take a blind guess I am thinking the pick will be a mid 1st based on current roster.
That’s an absolute steal. 

 
joey said:
Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium leagues  :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (likely mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 
Massive haul. The 1.02 on it's own was fair.

 
12 team, Superflex, start two TE, ppr

Gave: Mixon

Got: Dobbins, Sermon

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I'm gambling. This could look amazing or trash this time next year. I'm higher on Dobbins/Sermon than most. Mixon is peak value. 

 
joey said:
Ok. I’m officially rebuilding now in one of my FFPC 1QB TEpremium leagues  :)  

gave: Tyreek Hill

got: 1.2 and 2023 1st (likely mid)

I now have the 1.2 and 1.8 this year, and for 2023, I have 3 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 3rds. 
My core players remaining are: Herbert QB (and Herbert RB as well ;)  ) ,  JWilliams, Mark Andrews, with players like Michael Carter, Claypool, Pittman, Cooks, Toney filling out the roster.

I have my fingers firmly crossed. 
This was a great move to sell on Hill.  2 1sts with niether being late is a good haul.

 
14 team PPR TE 1.5

Gave up 1.14, 4.07

Got

2023 1st round pick

Hard to know where the pick will end up as there was a 3 team dispersal draft and this was 1 of the 3 teams so nothing to base off last season since that don't exist.

Team was without a 1st round pick this year so he probably wanted to get into the draft.  If I had to take a blind guess I am thinking the pick will be a mid 1st based on current roster.
This is a steal no matter where the pick ends up.

 
12 team, Superflex, start two TE, ppr

Gave: Mixon

Got: Dobbins, Sermon

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I'm gambling. This could look amazing or trash this time next year. I'm higher on Dobbins/Sermon than most. Mixon is peak value. 
This is interesting as if I was trying to win now I'd take Mixon but rebuilding, I get the other side.  I'd like to see more from Dobbins after that injury but not a terrible trade.  Could look really bad or really good in a year though like you said.

 
dipandglide said:
12 team, Superflex, start two TE, ppr

Gave: Mixon

Got: Dobbins, Sermon

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I'm gambling. This could look amazing or trash this time next year. I'm higher on Dobbins/Sermon than most. Mixon is peak value. 
I'm a Mixon owner and I'd want more than this.

 
dipandglide said:
12 team, Superflex, start two TE, ppr

Gave: Mixon

Got: Dobbins, Sermon

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I'm gambling. This could look amazing or trash this time next year. I'm higher on Dobbins/Sermon than most. Mixon is peak value. 
I don’t think it’s quite enough for Mixon. Baltimore seems content on RBBC forever, and while I think Sermon is undervalued at the moment. Mixon is an elite feature back - which should command more in return.

Its not that bad, but it’s definitely a gamble. 

 
Same.  In a different league, Mixon just went for Cooper and Jakobi Meyers.  The team that gave up Mixon is a notoriously....not good trader.
That is an absolutely terrible trade.  I'm only ok with the other one because I am a Dobbins believer but think you should be able to get a 1st and a good player for Mixon easily.  If not, I'd keep him.  Mixon is one of those players who seems undervalued by most in fantasy circles though.

 
dipandglide said:
12 team, Superflex, start two TE, ppr

Gave: Mixon

Got: Dobbins, Sermon

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I'm gambling. This could look amazing or trash this time next year. I'm higher on Dobbins/Sermon than most. Mixon is peak value. 
I really hope to see Dobbins bounce back but I don't think this is a good deal. You may be right about right now being the peak value of Mixon's career arc but this price doesn't reflect that IMO. 

 
Exactly. 
I semi-expected this reception of the trade. Bird in hand is better than two in the bush thinking. Sure.

I love me some Mixon, too. I took him in a lot of rookie drafts, held/traded for him in the down times, and rode it out. I felt like now was a good time to pivot to someone I believe in. Dobbins was a beast his rookie year with limited action. I think he surprises this year and will be worth the same or more than Mixon this time next year. 

Sermon is a tough buy. Those who drafted him aren't selling for air. Getting him thrown in adds a lot of upside. People have already written him off which is stupid. Elijah Mitchell ain't a bellcow. Sermon will have a role this year. Buying where I can get him cheap. 

 
I semi-expected this reception of the trade. Bird in hand is better than two in the bush thinking. Sure.

I love me some Mixon, too. I took him in a lot of rookie drafts, held/traded for him in the down times, and rode it out. I felt like now was a good time to pivot to someone I believe in. Dobbins was a beast his rookie year with limited action. I think he surprises this year and will be worth the same or more than Mixon this time next year. 

Sermon is a tough buy. Those who drafted him aren't selling for air. Getting him thrown in adds a lot of upside. People have already written him off which is stupid. Elijah Mitchell ain't a bellcow. Sermon will have a role this year. Buying where I can get him cheap. 
Like I said in my eval: I like the two guys you got. I just think Mixon is worth more since he’s at his peak value right now. It’s a big gamble made bigger by what you paid. 
 

 
(FPC) Just traded for the 1.01, and bleeding edge I suppose, but someone has to go first. Very competitive team with need at rb (go ahead and ask).

Gave 1.03 & 1.09 for 1.01

 
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10 team non PPR

I gave up 1.09 and 2.09

for

1st round pick 2023

Much more than you would ever normally pay even in a weaker draft class.  (Case in point I got a future 1st for 1.12 in another league and for 1.14 in yet another)

 
10 team non PPR

I gave up 1.09 and 2.09

for

1st round pick 2023

Much more than you would ever normally pay even in a weaker draft class.  (Case in point I got a future 1st for 1.12 in another league and for 1.14 in yet another)
Is it IDP or all offense? 

 
Is it IDP or all offense? 
Very very limited IDP (I created this league in 1997 and used to keep score with USA today and write on papers and hand out each week)

So we still have most of the same rules is what I am getting it.

We only start 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB and only score pts for sacks, Int's, FF, TD's.

 
Very very limited IDP (I created this league in 1997 and used to keep score with USA today and write on papers and hand out each week)

So we still have most of the same rules is what I am getting it.

We only start 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB and only score pts for sacks, Int's, FF, TD's.
So it really isn't a question of certain defensive positions being really scarce, then. I don't mind your deal if you feel strongly negative about this year's class. (And it seems the NFL is telling us what they think about it except at WR.)

 
So it really isn't a question of certain defensive positions being really scarce, then. I don't mind your deal if you feel strongly negative about this year's class. (And it seems the NFL is telling us what they think about it except at WR.)


I am having 2nd thoughts now.  9 and 19 are not bad picks.  I think 9 is a fine pick.  19 is maybe a crapshoot.  I should been more patient and tried other people.  I gave up too much.  It was a mistake.

 
So I was perusing rosters in my SF league and noticed a team with 1 viable QB (Mac Jones) 3 good RB, 2 good WR, 0 top 15 TE, and no 2022 1st round pick.

I wanted their ‘23 1st, so found the team that held it.

i gave: ‘23 1st (10-12, LCG loser), ‘24 1st (TBD, but should be mid-round)

I got: ‘23 1st, likely top 4

It’s now extremely likely I have the top 5 picks in 2023, + 7 or 8, and 2.01

I didn’t really want to borrow from 2024 to do it, but I figure I’ll be a better team after 2023. 

This one might have been a little greedy, but I can live with it. 

 
12 Team 1QB PPR (can start 5 WR)   I am in year 2 of complete rebuild (currently have 5 picks in Top 20 for 2023)

I gave up 2.11 & 3.03 

I got Wash WR Curtis Samuel 

I had that sitting there for 5 days.  They accepted it this morning .. I know Dotson was picked up.  I had a chance to revoke the deal but felt it was worth it.  I also know McLaurin is a UFA next year.  He is not at voluntary workouts while contract extension discussion underway.  Wash Cap # are an issue partly due to Wentz so if he has to wait after the season he will be more expensive.  I think Wash won't be able to afford him.  Just thinking potential ideas.  

I think Dotson needs time to show he can contribute.  Samuel is my buy low effort at it now. 

 
i gave: ‘23 1st (10-12, LCG loser), ‘24 1st (TBD, but should be mid-round)

I got: ‘23 1st, likely top 4

It’s now extremely likely I have the top 5 picks in 2023, + 7 or 8, and 2.01
Is that classified as ABUSE?  Nice work.  Search and Destroy effort to get another Top 5 pick in 2023

 

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