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I didn’t say it was irrelevant in general. I said specifically to this trade, it’s irrelevant. Because 2x 1sts, including a ‘23 1st, is an overpay for the 2022 1.02, in my opinion.
Basically pick 12 and a projected late 2023 1st, in standard.
2 late 1st dart throws for the 1.02? I’ll take the 1.02 but I’m a Walker believer and needed an RB in the one league where I own the 1.02 pick.
Fair. Did it feel good to move over of Danny 10-pennies? That has value.
I’d take the pick. Must be reasonably deep rosters cuz Jones is barely keepable imo
Sorry, standard scoring. Not a lot of room to add to my bench so I went for quality. Maybe a bit of an overpay, but I do not think it’s an obvious overpay by any means.
IMO, the 2023 late first has potential to be as good as any pick from 1.02 -> this year. There’s a ton of depth at RB coming next year + Michael Meyer.
Short rosters actually. Guy only had one starter at QB and Kyle Trask. Felt good to get anything for him.
Short rosters and Jones wasn’t available as a free agent? Kinda surprising.
To be fair, 2020 and 2021 produced by my recollection - nearly 20 starters with production. Take 2020, where you had guys like: Jeudy, Lamb, Jefferson, Higgins, Aiyuk, Pittman, Claypool and Ruggs (potentially without legal troubles). Mix those guys in with the 5RBs taken early and Antonio Gibson... 3 QBs, 2 very good and 1 with potential. 16 players that looked pretty good. All of those wide receivers are in Mike Clay's top 50 receivers this year.
Ageee. Looking ahead, I have Boutte & JSN as better than any WR in the 2022 class, and at least 3 WR in Worthy, Addison, & Johnston as good as any in this class. Bijan is in a tier to himself at RB, and Gibbs really close, but the next tier of Sean Tucker, Tank Bigsby, Zach Evans are all on Hall’s level or better. Plus Meyers at TE & 2, likely 3 or 4 QB who will be going top 14 regardless of SF or 1-QB, and that’s 16-17 deep right there. Plus Mimms, Downs, Burton, Jarrett, and some other QB like Rattler & Richardson?
Well there’s one guys opinion. Things change could be in my favor, might not nobody knows.
At the end of the day, that’s the only fact here. Never said it was more than that.
I agree completely. I'm trying to get all I can in '23. I currently have 4 picks in the top 20. I'd like your take on the bolded, which I posted in the Dynasty Value Discussion thread and heard
. Where would you rank Hall to the 2023 RB crop?
I was only looking at top 15, but I agree with the logic of Top 2 Rounds being valuable.
I’m wondering the same thing. I got a pretty good offer (23 picks) for the 1.01 that I turned down based on the odds of the key piece back being a 23 first that could slide back landing in the 1.06+ range. Interestingly, if you flip Hall and he has a top 14 season, he’s partly responsible for devaluating the picks.. not great. Kinda a double whammy. Or triple. Granted Hall hasn’t done anything yet so there’s a lot riding on his talent relative to the 23 class. Plus luck. The ras is insane, the receiving talent is there, ascending offense.I agree completely. I'm trying to get all I can in '23. I currently have 4 picks in the top 20. I'd like your take on the bolded, which I posted in the Dynasty Value Discussion thread and heard
I think I have him behind Bijan and tiered with Gibbs and Evans but slightly ahead of Tucker and Tank. I like Hall's situation a lot. I think that offense is going to surprise some people this year. What say you?
you heard cockroaches?and heard
? Same. Exactly - as of now. But I’m hawking Tucker, as he might be better than anyone but Bijan.
He’s fallen off the radar a bit , but before 2021, Rattler was thought to be in the mix for QB1.
I wouldn’t deal the 2021 1.01
I mean, you should be able to get 2 for 1, given the 1.01 is a guaranteed to get your guy. The rest of the picks are all a dice roll and given that I only have Bijan ranked firmly ahead of Breece Hall... I'm unwilling to do it without another pick (2nd round maybe but would like 2 firsts in '23) or a player on the cusp, Devonta Smith or Jerry Jeudy? It'd still be pretty damn hard, given the situation Hall is entering.
Great landing spot, with a guy spelling him that isn't much of a threat between the tackles and on goal line sets. Without another valuable piece + '23 pick... Taking Hall, cockroaches and all.
The talent level is very high though. Sure, every one could fall off of a cliff or get hurt. But we don’t know that.
Disagree completely. People are judging this 2022 class against itself, not against 2023z
I didn’t say that. I said there’ll be a baker’s dozen of premium players.Breece Hall is a 1st round startup pick. Kenneth Walker 3rd round. That's against all players, not against other 2022 rookies.
You think there are going to be 13 players in next year's draft that have 1st round startup value at this time next year? It's literally impossible in a 12 team league
slight exaggeration but it looks awfully good, and has for a while now.
I don’t think ‘23 picks are reasonably valued any more. I’d still rather have them than ‘22 picks, aside from 1.01, and maybe 1.02 depending on my team need
How high is the 2023 2nd projected to be? That’s likely the deciding factor for me.
