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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (54 Viewers)

Hock is in a great situation playing with Jefferson to draw coverage.
Shorter window with Cousins but it’s not like Pitts has an elite QB, so maybe a wash.

I love Hock - he helped to carry me to the postseason last year in redraft.

Either TE helps your team. Like I said, I like both sides of that deal.
 
FFPC 1 QB

Gave: TJ Hockenson, 2.08
Got: Kyle Pitts

Offer came in unsolicited (but I made offers for Pitts in January). I have a team that's deep at TE (also have Mark Andrews, George Kittle and Trey McBride). In a 1 QB league, the 20th rookie could very well be a cut candidate, so this could end up being TJH straight up for Pitts.
I would prefer Pitts, can see why teams might prefer the other side. I for sure have Pitts as my top dynasty TE but due to QB play and system he's not going to be hitting his upside just yet. I don't view Hock in the same ballpark on talent, but he should be better next year then Pitts so if someone is thinking more short term on a player not much older plus picking up a solid pick makes sense. I'm just usually thinking more long term and betting on what I view as a difference making talent. Pitts just dealt with injuries all year last year and the QB play did not help, things will be a lot better when he's healthy.
 
FFPC 1 QB

Gave: TJ Hockenson, 2.08
Got: Kyle Pitts

Offer came in unsolicited (but I made offers for Pitts in January). I have a team that's deep at TE (also have Mark Andrews, George Kittle and Trey McBride). In a 1 QB league, the 20th rookie could very well be a cut candidate, so this could end up being TJH straight up for Pitts.

Okay so I don't know what FFPC so let me know if roster sizes are less then typical dynasty leagues.

However, I think I might gamble and counter with Hockenson straight up for Pitts here.

I'm not flipping Pitts for Hockenson + 2.08 unless I actually prefer Hockenson in my 12-team 0.5 PPR 24-man rosters 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DEF League. I suspect the other owner probably has a preference of Hockenson over Pitts.

I think I do prefer the Pitts side here but I think that's what I try here first before going back to the original offer.
 
Hock is in a great situation playing with Jefferson to draw coverage.
Shorter window with Cousins but it’s not like Pitts has an elite QB, so maybe a wash.
Because of Jefferson, I don’t see Minnesota moving on from Cousins unless they have someone better to replace him. I get what you’re saying but I’m not worried about it as a Jefferson dynasty owner. They could end up with a better QB than Cousins.
 
Okay so I don't know what FFPC so let me know if roster sizes are less then typical dynasty leagues.

However, I think I might gamble and counter with Hockenson straight up for Pitts here.

I'm not flipping Pitts for Hockenson + 2.08 unless I actually prefer Hockenson in my 12-team 0.5 PPR 24-man rosters 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1K, 1DEF League. I suspect the other owner probably has a preference of Hockenson over Pitts.

I think I do prefer the Pitts side here but I think that's what I try here first before going back to the original offer.

FFPC has 1.5 PPR for TEs. There are 20-man rosters, but you have to have a kicker and defense, so it's 18 offensive players, which I consider to be a short bench. In my case, my team is pretty deep, plus I already have the 1.08, 1.10 and 2.10, so giving up the 2.08 wasn't that big a deal to me (it's typical to cut guys picked in that range early in the season if you need to make room for injury fill-ins or hot waiver grabs).
 
Hock is in a great situation playing with Jefferson to draw coverage.
Shorter window with Cousins but it’s not like Pitts has an elite QB, so maybe a wash.
Because of Jefferson, I don’t see Minnesota moving on from Cousins unless they have someone better to replace him. I get what you’re saying but I’m not worried about it as a Jefferson dynasty owner. They could end up with a better QB than Cousins.
I think they were prepared to move on from Cousins as soon as this year if the right offer came along. I'm not ruling them bringing him back after the next season but I feel pretty strongly it's not the Vikings preferred plan and bringing him back in 2024 is only the fall back option. Odds to me heavily favor this being his last year with them.
 
FFPC SuperFlex not involved and the first I've seen with the 1.01

Team A gave Olave, Najee, Waller, 2023 1st & 2nd (prob late)
Team B gave Freiermuth, Jameson Williams, 1.01

Enjoy

Not enough. Only one blue chip asset here and a bunch of window dressing. I have 1.01 and would insta reject.
Fair assessment. I have to ask who the one blue chip is, though, because if I'd have to guess I'd say you're talking about Najee but to me Olave is the prize on that side. But I tend to agree it's not enough.

It is not so much the 1.1 that bothers me here but the fact the Owner is giving up two other potential studs.
I'm not into either of Freiermuth or J Williams but I tend to agree.

It is not so much the 1.1 that bothers me here but the fact the Owner is giving up two other potential studs.
Yeah, take Williams and Friermith out of the equation and it’s a solid trade.
I'll say take one out not both.

Definitely Olave. Got zero interest in Najee at anywhere near his price.

Matter fact, there’s a team with similar assets I’ve been eyeing in a league where I hold 1.01. I was just thinking looking at his roster that something like Olave, Etienne, 1.12 sounds about right for 1.01. Not sure if I’d do it or not. He also has Najee and he’s just not someone I’m even mildly interested in trading for.

Then again, I am *extremely* picky about which RBs I pay up for.
 
something like Olave, Etienne, 1.12 sounds about right for 1.01. Not sure if I’d do it or not. He also has Najee and he’s just not someone I’m even mildly interested in trading for.
As a 1.01 owner in 2 leagues, I’d delete that offer without a counter.

And I love ETN.

Yep, you’re probably right. Olave would be my 1.02 if lumped with this draft and I’d take Etienne at 1.03. Plus another late 1st sounds right in value, and yet, not good enough to accept.
 
Hock is in a great situation playing with Jefferson to draw coverage.
Shorter window with Cousins but it’s not like Pitts has an elite QB, so maybe a wash.
Because of Jefferson, I don’t see Minnesota moving on from Cousins unless they have someone better to replace him. I get what you’re saying but I’m not worried about it as a Jefferson dynasty owner. They could end up with a better QB than Cousins.
I think they were prepared to move on from Cousins as soon as this year if the right offer came along. I'm not ruling them bringing him back after the next season but I feel pretty strongly it's not the Vikings preferred plan and bringing him back in 2024 is only the fall back option. Odds to me heavily favor this being his last year with them.
OK but my point was more to the comment about the shorter window for Hockenson with Cousins. If Cousins leaves, it’s probably because they have someone as good or better to replace him. It’s not like Cousins is Tom Brady and there will be a big drop off when he leaves.
 
FFPC 1qb

Gave
Isaiah Likely
3.05, 3.12, 5.12 & 24 2nd

Got
Prescott
4.05

Brady was my only qb on lg winner and I. Likely was going to be cut. Not a huge Prescott guy, but seemed like a pretty good price.
 
FFPC SuperFlex not involved and the first I've seen with the 1.01

Team A gave Olave, Najee, Waller, 2024 1st & 2nd (prob late)
Team B gave Freiermuth, Jameson Williams, 1.01

Enjoy

ETA those picks are 2024

Let’s say Jamo is worth the ‘24 1st

Freiermouth worth Waller and the ‘24 2nd ( a little bit of that 2nd towards the Jamo part )

It’s close to the 1.01 for Olave and Najee

Not enough for me
 
10 team SF:

Sent: Darren Waller, Mike Evans
Received: Skyy Moore, Trey McBride, 2024 2nd (probably mid-late)

Was originally offered the two players straight up for Waller which I thought was about probably favourable, but that would have made cutdowns tougher than what they're going to be, so countered with adding Evans for the pick, may not have got full value on Evans but would rather cash out something now rather than have his value completely collapse
 
10 team SF:

Sent: Darren Waller, Mike Evans
Received: Skyy Moore, Trey McBride, 2024 2nd (probably mid-late)

Was originally offered the two players straight up for Waller which I thought was about probably favourable, but that would have made cutdowns tougher than what they're going to be, so countered with adding Evans for the pick, may not have got full value on Evans but would rather cash out something now rather than have his value completely collapse
Seems like you’re going from Win Now to Rebuild and, if so, this deal makes total sense to me.
 
12 team ppr QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FL

This one’s tough. I’ve been weighing dealing Pacheco myself. Not sure if Pierce would get it done, but maybe. It’s close.
I have a feeling KC is going to either make a trade for a guy like Cook or draft a RB in first three rounds that will at least give Pacheco serious competition. Almost seems inevitable to me.
 
12 team ppr QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FL

This one’s tough. I’ve been weighing dealing Pacheco myself. Not sure if Pierce would get it done, but maybe. It’s close.
I have a feeling KC is going to either make a trade for a guy like Cook or draft a RB in first three rounds that will at least give Pacheco serious competition. Almost seems inevitable to me.
Yeah - that’s why I’ve been weighing dealing him. It seems like the right time to sell.

I’d rather package him with a pick to get a better return though.
 
It’s not like Cousins is Tom Brady and there will be a big drop off when he leaves.
QBs are in short supply, and it’s a hit & miss position.
And chemistry matters. Sometimes a better QB is not better for a receiver or TE's statistical output.
And many times it is. Better QB generally means better receiver production assuming the system remains the same.

In the case of Hockenson, I doubt the chemistry built up over a half a season will be a huge factor in performance if a change is made.
 
10 team SF:

Sent: Darren Waller, Mike Evans
Received: Skyy Moore, Trey McBride, 2024 2nd (probably mid-late)

Was originally offered the two players straight up for Waller which I thought was about probably favourable, but that would have made cutdowns tougher than what they're going to be, so countered with adding Evans for the pick, may not have got full value on Evans but would rather cash out something now rather than have his value completely collapse
Seems like you’re going from Win Now to Rebuild and, if so, this deal makes total sense to me.

Not so much that I'm going completely to rebuild, I still have somewhat of a window although it's pretty precarious (if anything happens to either starting QB/RB then I'm probably going to have to tear the thing down), just feel like the downstep from those who I've given up to alternatives already on the roster is not that big of a deal, and I get younger as well as getting a pick
 
On a run heavy team who doesn't even utilize him? Last year was.......really bad for that kind of outlook
Last year was…a very small sample size to make these sorts of declarative statements.

Pitts team will get better. There’s plenty of reason for optimism with him. His rookie year provided more than enough cause to be giddy about his future.
And he wont' have Marcus Mariota ever again.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR Dynasty Performance Scoring.

Team A: Gives DJ. Moore and 2023 3.2


Team B: Gives 2023 2.1 and 2023 2.3
 
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FFPC Triflex best ball

I was not involved.

Team A gave: AJ Brown
Team B gave: 1.01

Even in this format, which puts a premium on top WRs, I would've pushed for more for the 1.01. Moreover, if you have the 1.01 this season, why aren't you making it known that it's for sale? (I have CeeDee Lamb in this league, and by most measures he's worth more than AJ Brown. I understand he may prefer Brown to Lamb, but why not shoot me an offer asking for Lamb plus more, just to see if I bite?) Of course, this is a best ball league, which, unlike FFPC head-to-head leagues, truly rewards the worst team with the 1.01. This is why bad teams stay bad.
 
FFPC Triflex (superflex, TE premium)

Gave: 1.11
Got: Jordan Love, 5.06, 5.10

I offered the 2.03 for Love. He countered with this. I think the value is somewhere between the two picks and that 1.11 might be slightly too much (I don't count the two 5ths as being worth much of anything), but I'm absolutely desperate for a QB in this league.
 
FFPC Triflex (superflex, TE premium)

Gave: 1.11
Got: Jordan Love, 5.06, 5.10

I offered the 2.03 for Love. He countered with this. I think the value is somewhere between the two picks and that 1.11 might be slightly too much (I don't count the two 5ths as being worth much of anything), but I'm absolutely desperate for a QB in this league.
A bargain in SF.

I couldn’t get him for a 1st. That you got 2 picks back is amazing.

Nice pull.
 
FFPC Triflex best ball

I was not involved.

Team A gave: AJ Brown
Team B gave: 1.01

Even in this format, which puts a premium on top WRs, I would've pushed for more for the 1.01. Moreover, if you have the 1.01 this season, why aren't you making it known that it's for sale? (I have CeeDee Lamb in this league, and by most measures he's worth more than AJ Brown. I understand he may prefer Brown to Lamb, but why not shoot me an offer asking for Lamb plus more, just to see if I bite?) Of course, this is a best ball league, which, unlike FFPC head-to-head leagues, truly rewards the worst team with the 1.01. This is why bad teams stay bad.
This is just terrible. Not even close to enough IMO even though I don't play that format. I can see wanting AJB over Lamb or others but damn there should be a lot more included in this deal. At least a 1st rounder and that may not be enough still. You are totally right that this is how bad teams remain terrible. I think all leagues have people guilty of it but when you are selling a top asset, shopping is key.
 
FFPC Triflex (superflex, TE premium)

Gave: 1.11
Got: Jordan Love, 5.06, 5.10

I offered the 2.03 for Love. He countered with this. I think the value is somewhere between the two picks and that 1.11 might be slightly too much (I don't count the two 5ths as being worth much of anything), but I'm absolutely desperate for a QB in this league.
A bargain in SF.

I couldn’t get him for a 1st. That you got 2 picks back is amazing.

Nice pull.
I think 1.11 would have been a solid deal as we don't know what we will get out of Love for sure but getting anything back makes this a win. You probably win without the picks and with 2 dart throws this is a no brainer even though I agree 5ths don't have a ton of value.
 
12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB, not involved:

Nick Chubb
for
1.08

Don't get why someone would pay for a 27 year old RB. I got asked about CHubb before this was made and the guy wanted 1.11 and I said I might consider a mid 2nd for him but didn't make a real offer as I have King Henry/Barkley/CMC/Mixon/Hall and 1.06/1.07/1.11/2.04/2.06.
 
Yeah, I think this is one of those formats where roster constraints are super tight, so I would have clearly preferred the 2.03 offer, but either for Love in SF seems fine. Worst case you dump the picks for future picks OTC or chuck them both to move up slightly
 
12 team, .5 PPR, 1 QB, not involved:

Nick Chubb
for
1.08

I assume the team receiving Chubb is contending? In 1QB I think the 1.08 is clearly after a tier break and if I had a chance to win now I'd rather have Chubb than a probable QB or a dart throw at ~RB4 downwards. Team getting the pick has obv got decent enough value but I get it both ways
The team giving Chubb won last year but he has JT/Jacobs/Pierce. The guy that got Chubb has a solid team but due to Kyler/Ertz injuries missed the playoffs last year. This could get im to the playoffs but the top 3 teams in the league are still way ahead of him.
 
1 QB PPR, 1.2 & 1.4 = enough or too much for the 1.1?
As an owner of the 1.01 in a 1QB PPR/TE-P 12 Team, I would decline that. Not enough for me to move off the Top.
Each owner team needs are directly related to what value they have/need/target. It is not a bad offer and I see no harm in posting the deal.

If you look at it as "Potential" names --> going WR/RB with the 2 picks, Gibbs & Addison or JSN & Zach Charb for Bijan.
I would need something more to leave Bijan for Charbonnet as my Primary RB option with JSN as my WR to accompany him.
Ideally I would like a 2024 1st, but it is flexible pending the team and roster needs.
 
12 team SF PPR dynasty.

Team A gets: Sam Howell
Team B gets: Deebo

I was shocked Howell would bring that much in trade and I'm a Washington fan!
 
FFPC standard.
A team going bonkers trading for picks. Here's several of them:

JK Dobbins for a 2024 1st (could be anywhere)

Christian Watson for a 2024 1st (could be anywhere)

Javante Williams for pick 1.08

Lamar Jackson and Tony Pollard.....for......1.03, 2.03, a 2024 2nd, and Zamir White

Juju Smith-Schuster for a 2024 2nd

Marquis Brown and Diontae Johnson.....for....a 2024 1st (could be anywhere)

DeAndre Swift.....for.....2.04, a 2024 2nd, and Jordan Love
 

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