** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[dotman]

You would rather have Derek Anderson, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Jeff Garcia...I strongly disagree. This is the typical "negative philly fan" opinion. McNabb is much more accomplished than all on the list besides Favre, and he might not even play next season. The Eagles have been to the playoffs all but three years despite their franchise QB getting hurt multiple times, have been to the NFC championship 4 times, and have been to a Superbowl. They run the organization the right way, and have a very good, young roster. I couldn't disagree more with your opinion of Reid and McNabb.

I have also been a Philly fan since I was about 3 years old, so I have had to contend with this sort of attitude for years. When they win 11-12 games next year and go deep in the playoffs, I'm sure you will love them again.

Who said I don't love them? You're misreading my posts. I LOVE the Eagles. I bleed green. Nowhere did I say the Eagles suck or anything of that sort. Nowhere did I say McNabb sucks or Reid sucks. I think you're interpreting and reading what you want to, and not what I'm saying. I think you're just lumping me in with every other "negadelphian" without reading what I'm saying.As for McNabb being more accomplished than those QBs... I don't really care about that. I care about who is good right now. Right now, I think those QBs are better than McNabb. If we were talking prime of their career, it would be a different story. But McNabb is not what he used to be, whereas all of those QBs are playing well and, in my eyes, better then McNabb. And with the exception of Bulger, at least those other QBs can finish out a season. McNabb is just constantly hurt. For the longest time I defended him against accusations of being injury prone, but I think it's finally time for me to face the music on that one.

So yes, the Eagles have been great over the past decade or so. Reid has done a lot for the Eagles. McNabb has done a lot for the Eagles. Through years and years of not having any legitimate WRs we still made it into the playoffs. So like I've said, Reid and McNabb are both very good at their jobs. However, I believe they've both done what they can and its best for both their careers and for the Eagles if they move on.

ETA: Nothing on Earth would make me happier than for us to win a SB with McNabb. There's so many people who say he sucks, I HATE it. These are the same people I've debated McNabb with time and time again for the past three or four years. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing him hoist that trophy. I just no longer believe it will happen is all.

I respect that opinion, but if McNabb wins 11 or more games, stays healthy, and takes them to the Superbowl or deep in the playoffs, are you ready to admit that they can win it with him and they should keep him around?

 

[TheLastDispatch]

You would rather have Derek Anderson, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Jeff Garcia...I strongly disagree. This is the typical "negative philly fan" opinion. McNabb is much more accomplished than all on the list besides Favre, and he might not even play next season. The Eagles have been to the playoffs all but three years despite their franchise QB getting hurt multiple times, have been to the NFC championship 4 times, and have been to a Superbowl. They run the organization the right way, and have a very good, young roster. I couldn't disagree more with your opinion of Reid and McNabb.

I have also been a Philly fan since I was about 3 years old, so I have had to contend with this sort of attitude for years. When they win 11-12 games next year and go deep in the playoffs, I'm sure you will love them again.

Who said I don't love them? You're misreading my posts. I LOVE the Eagles. I bleed green. Nowhere did I say the Eagles suck or anything of that sort. Nowhere did I say McNabb sucks or Reid sucks. I think you're interpreting and reading what you want to, and not what I'm saying. I think you're just lumping me in with every other "negadelphian" without reading what I'm saying.As for McNabb being more accomplished than those QBs... I don't really care about that. I care about who is good right now. Right now, I think those QBs are better than McNabb. If we were talking prime of their career, it would be a different story. But McNabb is not what he used to be, whereas all of those QBs are playing well and, in my eyes, better then McNabb. And with the exception of Bulger, at least those other QBs can finish out a season. McNabb is just constantly hurt. For the longest time I defended him against accusations of being injury prone, but I think it's finally time for me to face the music on that one.

So yes, the Eagles have been great over the past decade or so. Reid has done a lot for the Eagles. McNabb has done a lot for the Eagles. Through years and years of not having any legitimate WRs we still made it into the playoffs. So like I've said, Reid and McNabb are both very good at their jobs. However, I believe they've both done what they can and its best for both their careers and for the Eagles if they move on.

ETA: Nothing on Earth would make me happier than for us to win a SB with McNabb. There's so many people who say he sucks, I HATE it. These are the same people I've debated McNabb with time and time again for the past three or four years. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing him hoist that trophy. I just no longer believe it will happen is all.

I respect that opinion, but if McNabb wins 11 or more games, stays healthy, and takes them to the Superbowl or deep in the playoffs, are you ready to admit that they can win it with him and they should keep him around?

Absolutely. If we make it to another SB with him, then clearly I'm wrong in that he's not as good as he used to be. I'd like to see him look good in that SB run though (as in we make that SB run BECAUSE of him, or at least thanks in part to him, rather than us making it DESPITE him). Here's to hoping that happens.

 

[Jedimaster21]

You would rather have Derek Anderson, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Jeff Garcia...I strongly disagree. This is the typical "negative philly fan" opinion. McNabb is much more accomplished than all on the list besides Favre, and he might not even play next season. The Eagles have been to the playoffs all but three years despite their franchise QB getting hurt multiple times, have been to the NFC championship 4 times, and have been to a Superbowl. They run the organization the right way, and have a very good, young roster. I couldn't disagree more with your opinion of Reid and McNabb.

I have also been a Philly fan since I was about 3 years old, so I have had to contend with this sort of attitude for years. When they win 11-12 games next year and go deep in the playoffs, I'm sure you will love them again.

Who said I don't love them? You're misreading my posts. I LOVE the Eagles. I bleed green. Nowhere did I say the Eagles suck or anything of that sort. Nowhere did I say McNabb sucks or Reid sucks. I think you're interpreting and reading what you want to, and not what I'm saying. I think you're just lumping me in with every other "negadelphian" without reading what I'm saying.As for McNabb being more accomplished than those QBs... I don't really care about that. I care about who is good right now. Right now, I think those QBs are better than McNabb. If we were talking prime of their career, it would be a different story. But McNabb is not what he used to be, whereas all of those QBs are playing well and, in my eyes, better then McNabb. And with the exception of Bulger, at least those other QBs can finish out a season. McNabb is just constantly hurt. For the longest time I defended him against accusations of being injury prone, but I think it's finally time for me to face the music on that one.

So yes, the Eagles have been great over the past decade or so. Reid has done a lot for the Eagles. McNabb has done a lot for the Eagles. Through years and years of not having any legitimate WRs we still made it into the playoffs. So like I've said, Reid and McNabb are both very good at their jobs. However, I believe they've both done what they can and its best for both their careers and for the Eagles if they move on.

ETA: Nothing on Earth would make me happier than for us to win a SB with McNabb. There's so many people who say he sucks, I HATE it. These are the same people I've debated McNabb with time and time again for the past three or four years. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing him hoist that trophy. I just no longer believe it will happen is all.

I did put you in the "negative philly fan" category, but it was because of what you posted. I wasn't saying you don't love the Eagles, or that you don't want them to succeed. Eagles fans are the best because of their passion and loyalty. I wasn't criticizing that. When I said, "I'm sure you will love them again", I was referring to Reid and McNabb. From your earlier posts you were calling for the Eagles to fire Reid and get rid of McNabb, and that was the focus of my whole argument.

 

[redman]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

 

[Zoomanji]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

Agree, we should go get a better RB Seriously, if they would just run the ball more and get a receiver...........

 

[TheLastDispatch]

You would rather have Derek Anderson, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Jeff Garcia...I strongly disagree. This is the typical "negative philly fan" opinion. McNabb is much more accomplished than all on the list besides Favre, and he might not even play next season. The Eagles have been to the playoffs all but three years despite their franchise QB getting hurt multiple times, have been to the NFC championship 4 times, and have been to a Superbowl. They run the organization the right way, and have a very good, young roster. I couldn't disagree more with your opinion of Reid and McNabb.

I have also been a Philly fan since I was about 3 years old, so I have had to contend with this sort of attitude for years. When they win 11-12 games next year and go deep in the playoffs, I'm sure you will love them again.

Who said I don't love them? You're misreading my posts. I LOVE the Eagles. I bleed green. Nowhere did I say the Eagles suck or anything of that sort. Nowhere did I say McNabb sucks or Reid sucks. I think you're interpreting and reading what you want to, and not what I'm saying. I think you're just lumping me in with every other "negadelphian" without reading what I'm saying.As for McNabb being more accomplished than those QBs... I don't really care about that. I care about who is good right now. Right now, I think those QBs are better than McNabb. If we were talking prime of their career, it would be a different story. But McNabb is not what he used to be, whereas all of those QBs are playing well and, in my eyes, better then McNabb. And with the exception of Bulger, at least those other QBs can finish out a season. McNabb is just constantly hurt. For the longest time I defended him against accusations of being injury prone, but I think it's finally time for me to face the music on that one.

So yes, the Eagles have been great over the past decade or so. Reid has done a lot for the Eagles. McNabb has done a lot for the Eagles. Through years and years of not having any legitimate WRs we still made it into the playoffs. So like I've said, Reid and McNabb are both very good at their jobs. However, I believe they've both done what they can and its best for both their careers and for the Eagles if they move on.

ETA: Nothing on Earth would make me happier than for us to win a SB with McNabb. There's so many people who say he sucks, I HATE it. These are the same people I've debated McNabb with time and time again for the past three or four years. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing him hoist that trophy. I just no longer believe it will happen is all.

I did put you in the "negative philly fan" category, but it was because of what you posted. I wasn't saying you don't love the Eagles, or that you don't want them to succeed. Eagles fans are the best because of their passion and loyalty. I wasn't criticizing that. When I said, "I'm sure you will love them again", I was referring to Reid and McNabb. From your earlier posts you were calling for the Eagles to fire Reid and get rid of McNabb, and that was the focus of my whole argument.

Ah, ok. I misunderstood you then. Thought you meant "I'm sure you will love them again" in reference to the entirety of the Eagles.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Can we recap on rumors out there?

I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.

Any other rumors out there?

 

[dotman]

You would rather have Derek Anderson, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, and Jeff Garcia...I strongly disagree. This is the typical "negative philly fan" opinion. McNabb is much more accomplished than all on the list besides Favre, and he might not even play next season. The Eagles have been to the playoffs all but three years despite their franchise QB getting hurt multiple times, have been to the NFC championship 4 times, and have been to a Superbowl. They run the organization the right way, and have a very good, young roster. I couldn't disagree more with your opinion of Reid and McNabb.

I have also been a Philly fan since I was about 3 years old, so I have had to contend with this sort of attitude for years. When they win 11-12 games next year and go deep in the playoffs, I'm sure you will love them again.

Who said I don't love them? You're misreading my posts. I LOVE the Eagles. I bleed green. Nowhere did I say the Eagles suck or anything of that sort. Nowhere did I say McNabb sucks or Reid sucks. I think you're interpreting and reading what you want to, and not what I'm saying. I think you're just lumping me in with every other "negadelphian" without reading what I'm saying.As for McNabb being more accomplished than those QBs... I don't really care about that. I care about who is good right now. Right now, I think those QBs are better than McNabb. If we were talking prime of their career, it would be a different story. But McNabb is not what he used to be, whereas all of those QBs are playing well and, in my eyes, better then McNabb. And with the exception of Bulger, at least those other QBs can finish out a season. McNabb is just constantly hurt. For the longest time I defended him against accusations of being injury prone, but I think it's finally time for me to face the music on that one.

So yes, the Eagles have been great over the past decade or so. Reid has done a lot for the Eagles. McNabb has done a lot for the Eagles. Through years and years of not having any legitimate WRs we still made it into the playoffs. So like I've said, Reid and McNabb are both very good at their jobs. However, I believe they've both done what they can and its best for both their careers and for the Eagles if they move on.

ETA: Nothing on Earth would make me happier than for us to win a SB with McNabb. There's so many people who say he sucks, I HATE it. These are the same people I've debated McNabb with time and time again for the past three or four years. Believe me, nothing would make me happier than seeing him hoist that trophy. I just no longer believe it will happen is all.

I respect that opinion, but if McNabb wins 11 or more games, stays healthy, and takes them to the Superbowl or deep in the playoffs, are you ready to admit that they can win it with him and they should keep him around?

Absolutely. If we make it to another SB with him, then clearly I'm wrong in that he's not as good as he used to be. I'd like to see him look good in that SB run though (as in we make that SB run BECAUSE of him, or at least thanks in part to him, rather than us making it DESPITE him). Here's to hoping that happens.

Agreed

 

[Zoomanji]

Can we recap on rumors out there?I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.Any other rumors out there?

They will go after MossMcNabb will be traded to Minny, CHI and the RavensThey will draft a lineman in the 1st roundNot a rumor but should be, they will go after a big time DE in FA

 

[Bushead]

Can we recap on rumors out there?I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.Any other rumors out there?

NFL live reported today that they are also trying to trade for Wayne. I am not sure where the media is coming up with this stuff. I have read rumors about Moss, Fitz, Roy Williams & Reggie Wayne now in the last 2 weeks.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Can we recap on rumors out there?I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.Any other rumors out there?

NFL live reported today that they are also trying to trade for Wayne. I am not sure where the media is coming up with this stuff. I have read rumors about Moss, Fitz, Roy Williams & Reggie Wayne now in the last 2 weeks.

Can't see the colts letting Wayne go.I haven't heard anything on Williams. Where did you hear that story?

 

[Zoomanji]

Can we recap on rumors out there?I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.Any other rumors out there?

NFL live reported today that they are also trying to trade for Wayne. I am not sure where the media is coming up with this stuff. I have read rumors about Moss, Fitz, Roy Williams & Reggie Wayne now in the last 2 weeks.

Can't see the colts letting Wayne go.I haven't heard anything on Williams. Where did you hear that story?

Rumor of Roy being shopped a few weeks ago. Eagles of course were mentioned since they need WR helpAlso do not Wayne going anywhere

 

[Bushead]

Can we recap on rumors out there?

I'm hearing rumors the Eagles are after Larry Fitz, Asante Samuel, and are letting Lito seek a trade.

Any other rumors out there?

NFL live reported today that they are also trying to trade for Wayne. I am not sure where the media is coming up with this stuff. I have read rumors about Moss, Fitz, Roy Williams & Reggie Wayne now in the last 2 weeks.

Can't see the colts letting Wayne go.I haven't heard anything on Williams. Where did you hear that story?

I don't really see any of this stuff happening. For the next 10 days I am going to pretend they have worked out a deal for Fitz though. By no means a credible source or anything, I think I read the Williams thing here - http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/Tra...m_Eagles/128454

 

[redman]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

Agree, we should go get a better RB Seriously, if they would just run the ball more and get a receiver...........

You really took my post to be a shot at Westy? Oversensitive much, Philly fan?

 

[ThePassion]

Wayne, Javon, Chad J, Fitzy, Roy W.

I'll take anyone of these dudes.

And then I'd be first in line for one of their jerseys.

 

[Zoomanji]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

Agree, we should go get a better RB Seriously, if they would just run the ball more and get a receiver...........

:whoosh: You really took my post to be a shot at Westy? Oversensitive much, Philly fan?

no, that's why I wrote seriously.But it would help if they actually tried to run the ball more

 

[Zoomanji]

Wayne, Javon, Chad J, Fitzy, Roy W.I'll take anyone of these dudes.And then I'd be first in line for one of their jerseys.

Forget it.They went and got K. Curtis. He's the man.

 

[Chunky Soup]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

Agree, we should go get a better RB Seriously, if they would just run the ball more and get a receiver...........

You really took my post to be a shot at Westy? Oversensitive much, Philly fan?

Can't you take a dump in some other thread?

 

[Slider]

Not only was Elway average, he only won a Bowl after Shanahan brought the WCO to town. Now just think if he played it in his whole career like McNabb.

Elway's championships came more as the result of the running game with Terrell Davis, and finally having some first class receivers in the form of Smith, McCaffery and Sharpe to throw the ball to. Kudos to Shanny for assembling that team, but the lesson learned in those championship seasons was that the team did better when it didn't have to put the game on Elway's shoulders all the time.Philly might take a lesson from that.

Not to beat a dead horse but it was the O that made those players. Rod Smith was an undrafted nobody, McCaffrey couldn't make it on the Giants, Davis and Sharpe were drafted where? Every WCO RB, TE, QB and WR do well if it's run right. Think any San Fran, Seattle, Green Bay, Denver or Philly O. Philly's problem is the QB holds it for 12 seconds and doesn't give the WR's a chance.

 

[TCFF]

Wayne, Javon, Chad J, Fitzy, Roy W.I'll take anyone of these dudes.And then I'd be first in line for one of their jerseys.

Forget it.They went and got K. Curtis. He's the man.

Actually, your right he is the man. Curtis came in and had a great season and did everything that could reasonably be expected considering he is small, was starting for the first time, and was new to the team. That being said, he is not a #1 WR and won't ever be one but I would love to see what he could do with a great WR also in the lineup. Regardless of whether we sign someone else (fingers crossed) or not, Kevin Curtis is the kind of player I want to have on my team.

 

[Slider]

We're obviously targeting a 1. With Curtis and the 1 we would be sick.

 

[JAA]

Walker might be a good fit, but his agent and whining is not likely going to cut it in Philly

 

[Snotbubbles]

I think Reid is a good coach and McNabb is a good QB, but they are a poor match for each other. Reid, for some mind boggling reason, refuses to run the ball. His D is weaker and his QB is gimpy from injury, you'd think the first reaction would be to run the ball and ease the pressure off of his star passer and his aging defense. Instead he continues to demand a passer, who is truly ill suited for the WCO, to keep firing no matter what. McNabb needs a coach who will actually give him a running game and Reid needs a QB who is actually suited for the WCO if he insists on his relentless dinking and dunking. Unfortunately I think this is where Reid's background (no experience as a coordinator) has hurt him. I think most seasoned O coordinators realize the true importance of the running game. Reid treats it like an afterthought.

Gordon, Normally I agree with most of what you say, but the defense is not aging. Dawkins is aging and Spikes is old, but other than those two most if not all of the other major contributors are young. Bunkley, Patterson, Cole, Gaither, Gocong, Sheppard, Brown, Mikell all guys who are young. Who exactly is aging. Kearse? He was benched midway through the season. Howard? Never really a major contributor. This defense is young and improving, not aging?

 

[dotman]

I think Reid is a good coach and McNabb is a good QB, but they are a poor match for each other. Reid, for some mind boggling reason, refuses to run the ball. His D is weaker and his QB is gimpy from injury, you'd think the first reaction would be to run the ball and ease the pressure off of his star passer and his aging defense. Instead he continues to demand a passer, who is truly ill suited for the WCO, to keep firing no matter what. McNabb needs a coach who will actually give him a running game and Reid needs a QB who is actually suited for the WCO if he insists on his relentless dinking and dunking. Unfortunately I think this is where Reid's background (no experience as a coordinator) has hurt him. I think most seasoned O coordinators realize the true importance of the running game. Reid treats it like an afterthought.

Gordon, Normally I agree with most of what you say, but the defense is not aging. Dawkins is aging and Spikes is old, but other than those two most if not all of the other major contributors are young. Bunkley, Patterson, Cole, Gaither, Gocong, Sheppard, Brown, Mikell all guys who are young. Who exactly is aging. Kearse? He was benched midway through the season. Howard? Never really a major contributor. This defense is young and improving, not aging?

Very Many people say this and it's not true. I love when I hear that the Eagles window of opportunity is closing. It always seems like people want to write off the Birds as soon as they can. Fact is, they have a solid young core of guys and should be competitive for awhile. Also, in this day and age teams can turn around so quickly with a couple good moves (let's see, who here thought the Browns would do what they did last year?) that it's just foolish to make statements about the window closing.

 

[dotman]

I also think enough hasn't been said about Gocong, who was essentially a rookie playing a new position last year, and it didn't take him too long to figure it out. He has some nice burst for a guy that size and seems to be a pretty smart player too. I think he has a lot of upside.

 

[Bushead]

I also think enough hasn't been said about Gocong, who was essentially a rookie playing a new position last year, and it didn't take him too long to figure it out. He has some nice burst for a guy that size and seems to be a pretty smart player too. I think he has a lot of upside.

Agree on that. I would go as far as saying the entire LB group looks like it may become a strong point on the D for once and they all seemed to be quick learners. Gaither did a real nice job last year after being handed the MLB spot weeks before the season. Bradley looked really good in his limited action at the end of the season. Even Daniels looked good. If they find a left DE to pair with Cole, the front 7 looks to be a solid group for years to come IMO.

 

[shimtown]

http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs...ONTPAGECAROUSEL

Eagles' Patterson arrested on pot charge

Philadelphia Eagles defensive tackle Mike Patterson was arrested Saturday and charged with marijuana possession in Evesham, police said today.

Police said they found a vehicle on the side of the road with damage caused by a minor motor vehicle accident around 6 a.m. They said they smelled burning marijuana coming from inside and found Patterson and the marijuana inside. They said Patterson admitted it was his.

Patterson, 24, a number one draft pick of the Eagles in 2005, was placed under arrest and taken into custody, police said.

Also inside the car was Patterson's 28-year-old brother, Tyrone, who had several outstanding warrants for his arrest, police said. Police said he resisted arrest.

Mike Patterson was charged with possession of marijuana under 50 grams and released pending a court appearance, police said. His brother was charged with resisting arrest, posted bail and was released pending a court appearance, police said.

A police report lists both as living in Evesham.

-- Courier-Post staff

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Heard Kearse was gonna be cut sometime soon as well. Good riddance!!

 

[Zoomanji]

Bam!!!

WR problem solved

 

[Weiner Dog]

Do any Eagles fan know if Max Jean-Gilles is the favorite to start at Guard this year?? I've reading he will compete with Herremans at Guard, or Herreman will be moved to Tackle and Jean-Gilles will be handed the job.

Any insight??

 

[Zoomanji]

Do any Eagles fan know if Max Jean-Gilles is the favorite to start at Guard this year?? I've reading he will compete with Herremans at Guard, or Herreman will be moved to Tackle and Jean-Gilles will be handed the job.

Any insight??

Just read on the combine blog (1:23 pm) that they could go after Fanaca and move him to RG and Andrews to RT.More likely they move Herremans to Tackle and play Jean-Gilles at G (he played G in college and I don't believe he's expected to play anywhere else). Herremans was a Tackle in college

But I don't expect to see that in 2008 with Runyan and Thomas back

1:23 PM -- Rumor control time. Bucky Brooks from Sports Illustrated wrote that the Eagles could make a play in free agency for Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, insert him at right guard (he's traditionally been on the left side) and move Shawn Andrews to right tackle, which was expected to happen at some point when the Eagles drafted him in the first round of the 2004 draft out of Arkansas.

But Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer definitively said that it's not going to happen. Brookover speculated in his article for Sunday's papers that the Eagles could make a run for New England's Asante Samuel. He wrote that the Eagles were interested in Seattle's Marcus Trufant before he was slapped with the franchise tag. The Eagles could sign Trufant, but it would cost them two first-round picks in the process.

 

[Weiner Dog]

Do any Eagles fan know if Max Jean-Gilles is the favorite to start at Guard this year?? I've reading he will compete with Herremans at Guard, or Herreman will be moved to Tackle and Jean-Gilles will be handed the job.

Any insight??

Just read on the combine blog (1:23 pm) that they could go after Fanaca and move him to RG and Andrews to RT.More likely they move Herremans to Tackle and play Jean-Gilles at G (he played G in college and I don't believe he's expected to play anywhere else). Herremans was a Tackle in college

But I don't expect to see that in 2008 with Runyan and Thomas back

1:23 PM -- Rumor control time. Bucky Brooks from Sports Illustrated wrote that the Eagles could make a play in free agency for Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, insert him at right guard (he's traditionally been on the left side) and move Shawn Andrews to right tackle, which was expected to happen at some point when the Eagles drafted him in the first round of the 2004 draft out of Arkansas.

But Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer definitively said that it's not going to happen. Brookover speculated in his article for Sunday's papers that the Eagles could make a run for New England's Asante Samuel. He wrote that the Eagles were interested in Seattle's Marcus Trufant before he was slapped with the franchise tag. The Eagles could sign Trufant, but it would cost them two first-round picks in the process.

Thanks for the detailed response.Assuming Herremans stays at Guard, do you think Gilles can take the job from him??

 

[Zoomanji]

Do any Eagles fan know if Max Jean-Gilles is the favorite to start at Guard this year?? I've reading he will compete with Herremans at Guard, or Herreman will be moved to Tackle and Jean-Gilles will be handed the job.

Any insight??

Just read on the combine blog (1:23 pm) that they could go after Fanaca and move him to RG and Andrews to RT.More likely they move Herremans to Tackle and play Jean-Gilles at G (he played G in college and I don't believe he's expected to play anywhere else). Herremans was a Tackle in college

But I don't expect to see that in 2008 with Runyan and Thomas back

1:23 PM -- Rumor control time. Bucky Brooks from Sports Illustrated wrote that the Eagles could make a play in free agency for Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, insert him at right guard (he's traditionally been on the left side) and move Shawn Andrews to right tackle, which was expected to happen at some point when the Eagles drafted him in the first round of the 2004 draft out of Arkansas.

But Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer definitively said that it's not going to happen. Brookover speculated in his article for Sunday's papers that the Eagles could make a run for New England's Asante Samuel. He wrote that the Eagles were interested in Seattle's Marcus Trufant before he was slapped with the franchise tag. The Eagles could sign Trufant, but it would cost them two first-round picks in the process.

Thanks for the detailed response.Assuming Herremans stays at Guard, do you think Gilles can take the job from him??

Dunno. Gilles is built like a guard and went to Georgia. Herremans is built like a tackle and went to Saginaw Valley State.But I wouldn't be surprised if 2009 went

Tackle- Justice, Herremans

Guard- Andrews, Gilles.

Who know, Herremans may be viewed as a swingman too but I think Gilles eventually starts at guard.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

 

[Jason Wood]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

My understanding is the team would ideally want Shelden to play safety; whether he would be happy with that or make a fuss remains to be seen.With Fred Thomas and Fernando Bryant on the market; I would expect Reid to make a play for one of them if they aren't real players in the Samuel bidding. Thomas and Bryant were both targets of Reid in the past.

 

[dotman]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

I agree, ideally you have all 3, and that would be awesome, but I'm thinking Samuel isn't worth the $30mil+ gauranteed that he wants. An impact DE would help the secondary a bunch too.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

I agree, ideally you have all 3, and that would be awesome, but I'm thinking Samuel isn't worth the $30mil+ gauranteed that he wants. An impact DE would help the secondary a bunch too.

The impact DE would be great, but where are they going to get that? Suggs and Jared Allen are franchised so who left is impact? I saw Justin Smith's name mentioned in the paper, while he he is a solid player and would be a good signing, not sure he provides the strong pass rush they need. Get Smith and Samuels and I think that makes the D alot better.While I am at it. throw in Larry Fitzgerald for the O too

 

[JAA]

Do any Eagles fan know if Max Jean-Gilles is the favorite to start at Guard this year?? I've reading he will compete with Herremans at Guard, or Herreman will be moved to Tackle and Jean-Gilles will be handed the job.

Any insight??

Just read on the combine blog (1:23 pm) that they could go after Fanaca and move him to RG and Andrews to RT.More likely they move Herremans to Tackle and play Jean-Gilles at G (he played G in college and I don't believe he's expected to play anywhere else). Herremans was a Tackle in college

But I don't expect to see that in 2008 with Runyan and Thomas back

1:23 PM -- Rumor control time. Bucky Brooks from Sports Illustrated wrote that the Eagles could make a play in free agency for Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca, insert him at right guard (he's traditionally been on the left side) and move Shawn Andrews to right tackle, which was expected to happen at some point when the Eagles drafted him in the first round of the 2004 draft out of Arkansas.

But Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer definitively said that it's not going to happen. Brookover speculated in his article for Sunday's papers that the Eagles could make a run for New England's Asante Samuel. He wrote that the Eagles were interested in Seattle's Marcus Trufant before he was slapped with the franchise tag. The Eagles could sign Trufant, but it would cost them two first-round picks in the process.

Thanks for the detailed response.Assuming Herremans stays at Guard, do you think Gilles can take the job from him??

Dunno. Gilles is built like a guard and went to Georgia. Herremans is built like a tackle and went to Saginaw Valley State.But I wouldn't be surprised if 2009 went

Tackle- Justice, Herremans

Guard- Andrews, Gilles.

Who know, Herremans may be viewed as a swingman too but I think Gilles eventually starts at guard.

Gilles was an excellent Guard at UGA. He is a huge guy, drafted 3rd round I believe. Should grade out as a long term starting guard, probowl certainly a possibility

 

[zadok]

With Fred Thomas and Fernando Bryant on the market; I would expect Reid to make a play for one of them if they aren't real players in the Samuel bidding. Thomas and Bryant were both targets of Reid in the past.

Fred Thomas will be 35 in September and has been hurt the past 2 years. Don't think that's happening.I could see Bryant or Drayton Florence if they lose out on Samuel. Another guy nobody is talking about is Chris Carr. He is restricted, but was undrafted. He can return kicks and punts also.

 

[Zoomanji]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

I agree, ideally you have all 3, and that would be awesome, but I'm thinking Samuel isn't worth the $30mil+ gauranteed that he wants. An impact DE would help the secondary a bunch too.

The impact DE would be great, but where are they going to get that? Suggs and Jared Allen are franchised so who left is impact? I saw Justin Smith's name mentioned in the paper, while he he is a solid player and would be a good signing, not sure he provides the strong pass rush they need. Get Smith and Samuels and I think that makes the D alot better.While I am at it. throw in Larry Fitzgerald for the O too

Antwan Odom's name has come up in some of the DE rumors for them. I guess he's the 2nd choice behind J. Smith.And I think Lito would get traded if they got Samuel which I doubt they will do due to the $$$ he wants

 

[Cable]

With Fred Thomas and Fernando Bryant on the market; I would expect Reid to make a play for one of them if they aren't real players in the Samuel bidding. Thomas and Bryant were both targets of Reid in the past.

Fred Thomas will be 35 in September and has been hurt the past 2 years. Don't think that's happening.I could see Bryant or Drayton Florence if they lose out on Samuel. Another guy nobody is talking about is Chris Carr. He is restricted, but was undrafted. He can return kicks and punts also.

I would love the Eagles to sign Florence. He's a big CB with some wheels. He lost his starting job to Antonio Cromartie, but that's not necessarily a knock on Florence as AC is all-world. So he'd have to be a starter where he signs...would the Eagles give him a starting job?

 

[LILB811]

Is keeping Lito, signing a top CB like Asante, and moving Sheldon to safety a legitimate possibility at this point? I know we've all heard the rumors, but how would Eagles fans feel if this actually happened? I'm not so sure about this.

 

[zadok]

Is keeping Lito, signing a top CB like Asante, and moving Sheldon to safety a legitimate possibility at this point? I know we've all heard the rumors, but how would Eagles fans feel if this actually happened? I'm not so sure about this.

I would be thrilled to have all 3 of them, but I don't see it happening.

 

[zadok]

FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR...

Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...

 

[2and2is5]

Is keeping Lito, signing a top CB like Asante, and moving Sheldon to safety a legitimate possibility at this point? I know we've all heard the rumors, but how would Eagles fans feel if this actually happened? I'm not so sure about this.

theoretically i love the idea of having Lito and Samuel back there, but i wouldn't do that at the cost of bringing in a top WR FA...

 

[dotman]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

I agree, ideally you have all 3, and that would be awesome, but I'm thinking Samuel isn't worth the $30mil+ gauranteed that he wants. An impact DE would help the secondary a bunch too.

The impact DE would be great, but where are they going to get that? Suggs and Jared Allen are franchised so who left is impact? I saw Justin Smith's name mentioned in the paper, while he he is a solid player and would be a good signing, not sure he provides the strong pass rush they need. Get Smith and Samuels and I think that makes the D alot better.While I am at it. throw in Larry Fitzgerald for the O too

I know it's just wishful thinking, but my eyes lit up in the "rumors from the combine" thread when I read the Panthers are toying with trading Julius Peppers Who knows, the Eagles did get T.O. and Kearse in the same year!

 

[Snotbubbles]

FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR... Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...

I can't see them going after Samuel at what the asking price will be.

 

[zadok]

FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR... Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...

I can't see them going after Samuel at what the asking price will be.

You could be right. Did you see the updated cap figures after LTBE's were applied? Now the Eagles have around 30 Million in cap space (after LJs franchise number and Kearse's savings), one of the best in the league...

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR...

Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...

I can't see them going after Samuel at what the asking price will be.

You could be right. Did you see the updated cap figures after LTBE's were applied? Now the Eagles have around 30 Million in cap space (after LJs franchise number and Kearse's savings), one of the best in the league...

Where'd you get that info?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

If the birds somehow get Assante Samuel, what would be their plan. Trade Lito? Make Sheldon Brown a safety? Make Sheldon nickel CB? Personally if this happens I would play Brown at safety, I think he would fit there. The secondary would be strong

I agree, ideally you have all 3, and that would be awesome, but I'm thinking Samuel isn't worth the $30mil+ gauranteed that he wants. An impact DE would help the secondary a bunch too.

The impact DE would be great, but where are they going to get that? Suggs and Jared Allen are franchised so who left is impact? I saw Justin Smith's name mentioned in the paper, while he he is a solid player and would be a good signing, not sure he provides the strong pass rush they need. Get Smith and Samuels and I think that makes the D alot better.While I am at it. throw in Larry Fitzgerald for the O too

I know it's just wishful thinking, but my eyes lit up in the "rumors from the combine" thread when I read the Panthers are toying with trading Julius Peppers Who knows, the Eagles did get T.O. and Kearse in the same year!

Getting Samuel and keeping Lito Sheppard would feel like Philly is being reactive rather than proactive.Stockpiling CBs, even good-to-great ones, feels like we're trying to weather the offensive storm from other teams like Dallas and New England. I'd rather see the Eagles try and create their own offensive juggernaut.