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** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)

FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR...

Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...
I can't see them going after Samuel at what the asking price will be.
You could be right. Did you see the updated cap figures after LTBE's were applied? Now the Eagles have around 30 Million in cap space (after LJs franchise number and Kearse's savings), one of the best in the league...
Where'd you get that info?
AdamJT13 has posted the official LTBE credits for every team over at KFFL. http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224567Eagles:

Reno Mahe- 4M

Shawn Andrews- 2.125M

Akeem Jordan- 2.5M

Tanard Davis- 1.6M

Darren Howard- 1.5M

Marcus Paschal- 1M

Brian Dawkins- 800K

Jon Dorenbos apparently got one as part of his new deal that prorates over 6 years. So the eagles get 90,833 in LTBE credits for each of the next 6 seasons. So the total LTBE credit number is $13,615,833.

Also http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.

He said the following could all happen:

Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).

Sign Gibril Wilson.

Possibly sign Faneca.

The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.

Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.

 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
Anything "could" happen. However, as others have stated in here, Eskin is a moron and is rarely right about anything. Furthermore, he's one of the biggest Eagles homers in the media.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
Aside from Gibril Wilson, I'm not holding my breath over any of these. I'd be happy with those moves, but I ain't counting on them.
 
FWIW, Hugh Douglas says his sources say the Eagles will not go after Samuel hard, but will trade for a WR...

Hugh did say before the draft they would pick a QB with their first pick last year...
I can't see them going after Samuel at what the asking price will be.
You could be right. Did you see the updated cap figures after LTBE's were applied? Now the Eagles have around 30 Million in cap space (after LJs franchise number and Kearse's savings), one of the best in the league...
Where'd you get that info?
AdamJT13 has posted the official LTBE credits for every team over at KFFL. http://www.kffl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224567Eagles:

Reno Mahe- 4M

Shawn Andrews- 2.125M

Akeem Jordan- 2.5M

Tanard Davis- 1.6M

Darren Howard- 1.5M

Marcus Paschal- 1M

Brian Dawkins- 800K

Jon Dorenbos apparently got one as part of his new deal that prorates over 6 years. So the eagles get 90,833 in LTBE credits for each of the next 6 seasons. So the total LTBE credit number is $13,615,833.

Also http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp
this is the stuff that pisses me off. The eagle FO keeps harping on how much money they spen devery year. Fact of the matter is they dont. They make it seem that way with all the incentives that are "likely to be earned" when in fact ... no, Mahe will not score 15 TDs and Greg Lewis will not have 10 punt returns for TDs.Orly?

Yarly!

 
PFT is saying Samuel has a deal in place with New Orleans...
I for one hope that the Eagles do not sign Samuel. I am a believer in building up the big boys up front and then worrying about the corners. A very good pass rush can make an average secondary look great.
 
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PFT is saying Samuel has a deal in place with New Orleans...
Wouldn't that be considered tampering since he's still technically under contract with New England?Not that I really care, but here's to hoping they really overpaid for him too. Actually I hope this happens....NO was one of the teams that was probably taking a CB in April. I'd love to see McKelvin fall to pick 19.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :shrug: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :shrug: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
Doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them? They have $30M under the cap, right?
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
Time to buy Sirius Satellite Radio and tune into the NFL Channel. Not sure how anyone can listen to 610 any more. No wonder everyone thinks Philly fans are a bunch of morons.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :lol: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
Doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them? They have $30M under the cap, right?
Typical Eagles move but I should have said "willing to pay for more than 1 or 2"They are under the cap every year. When is the last time they broke the bank to sign high priced older guys?Never. 1 year they got Kearse and TO but they lowballed one of them and he demanded a new deal the next year.They won't pay Fanaca because of his age. Assante will go for more than they will spend. Wilson maybe, but they will look at his age there too. He is the most likely of the 3 IMO.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :thumbup: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
Doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them? They have $30M under the cap, right?
Typical Eagles move but I should have said "willing to pay for more than 1 or 2"They are under the cap every year. When is the last time they broke the bank to sign high priced older guys?Never. 1 year they got Kearse and TO but they lowballed one of them and he demanded a new deal the next year.They won't pay Fanaca because of his age. Assante will go for more than they will spend. Wilson maybe, but they will look at his age there too. He is the most likely of the 3 IMO.
Ok, gotcha. I guess I was confused before because one of your cohorts was crowing about having "the most (cap space) in the league". Obviously, spending by itself guarantees nothing (I'm a Redskins fan :excited: ) but it blows my mind how the Eagles never seem to change their approach despite not having reached their goal of making a Super Bowl winner.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :towelwave: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
I missed this when it happened but I thought I heard that Eskin prefaced this with "this would be my fantasy". Regardless, he's still a moron......
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.

He said the following could all happen:

Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).

Sign Gibril Wilson.

Possibly sign Faneca.

The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.

Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :goodposting: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.

The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them.

The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happen

Trading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.

But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
FWIW, they could have an agreement in place but they can't actually swing the deal until Friday. Like the Jags monumenental acquisiotion of Troy Williamson can't take place until then.
 
Did you guys hear Eskin yesterday.He said the following could all happen:Sign Assante Samuel (he said it's better than a 50% chance).Sign Gibril Wilson.Possibly sign Faneca.The Eagles trade up in the draft to select Chris Long.Eagles trade Lito Sheppard and a pick to Arizona for Fitzgerald or Detroit for Williams.
I spit my coffee out when I read this. :lol: Listening to Eskin will rot your brain.The FA signings are indeed all active rumors but I doubt they could afford more than 1 or 2 of them. The trade up is too far for them to go, won't happenTrading Lito for a WR. Maybe, supposedly (NFL radio) DET wants a 2nd round pick for Roy. I would have done that deal already if its true.But still, I can't believe anything that moron says.
I missed this when it happened but I thought I heard that Eskin prefaced this with "this would be my fantasy". Regardless, he's still a moron......
He actually said it would be "a perfect storm".
 
PFT is saying Samuel has a deal in place with New Orleans...
Wouldn't that be considered tampering since he's still technically under contract with New England?Not that I really care, but here's to hoping they really overpaid for him too. Actually I hope this happens....NO was one of the teams that was probably taking a CB in April. I'd love to see McKelvin fall to pick 19.
Technically it would be tampering, but only if the Patriots explicitly denied Samuel's agent from speaking to other clubs. There's always a lot of posturing that happens before the opening of free agency. Think about it...if teams were really not allowed to talk to free agents, how did Daniel Snyder's private jet arrive at 12:01 midnight to pick up Cornelius Griffin a few years ago? How did LeCharles Bentley have a deal in place with Philly only to reconsider after visiting his hometown Browns? How did Philly announce the signing of Jevon Kearse hours after the start of free agency?I'm not saying Samuel DOES have a deal in place with New Orleans, just that it's not completely out of the realm of possibility.
 
"Tampering" happens all the time. Calvin Pace was on the "Afternoon Blitz " Sirius NFL and came right out and said that his agent has already talked to 4 or 5 teams (he named them but I do not remember anyone other then the Bengals). When he hung up the hosts said "Did he just come out and admit to tampering?"

Back to the Birds...

Anyone else excited that Kenny Phillips might drop right into their hands? I doubt they take a safety in the first but I sure would love to see it.

 
Jason Wood said:
How did LeCharles Bentley have a deal in place with Philly only to reconsider after visiting his hometown Browns?
Dodged a bullet there, huh?
you never know.. maybe he never gets hurt if he stuck his word and came to Philly.. karma sucks sometimes....I admit I saw the movie Sliding Doors with Gwennyth Paltrow.. kind of the same idea......... if something doesnt happen you dont know the future outcome will be the same.. Planet of the Apes too I guess
 
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Just for giggles, my offseason prediction/wishlist:

1. Trade Lito + 5th for Fitz or trade 2nd for Roy

2. Sign Odom

3. Sign Wilson

4. Sign Drayton Florence if Lito is traded

5. Pick up veteran DT or move Howard to DT

6. CB (McKelvin) with 1st pick, trade up to get OT with second pick.

7. Cruise control to SB.

:goodposting:

 
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :confused:
I would love the healthy Walker for this team. Especially his price tag compared to Fitz and Roy. But he hasn't been so in a looong time...
 
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Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :confused:
I would love the healthy Walker for this team. Especially his price tag compared to Fitz and Roy. But he hasn't been so in a looong time...
Same here, I'm not sure how I feel about it, I would love a 100% healthy Walker but who knows if he will be able to get back to 100% and stay there. Just doesn't seem likely.
 
Just for giggles, my offseason prediction/wishlist:1. Trade Lito + 5th for Fitz or trade 2nd for Roy2. Sign Odom3. Sign Wilson4. Sign Drayton Florence if Lito is traded5. Pick up veteran DT or move Howard to DT6. CB (McKelvin) with 1st pick, trade up to get OT with second pick.7. Cruise control to SB. :confused:
Thats quite a wish list1. Just trade the second for Roy now. He's the most cost effective move. Fitz would cost too much. Arizona doesnt need a corner so you arent trading Lito for Fitz.2. Odom can be had reasonably. Actually is a good target.3. I'm not sure what Wilson would cost.4. Florance is not an upgrade on Shephard. 5. Fine6. I think McKelvin is going higher than 19th.The Eagles do not have anywhere near the amunition to move up to the top 5 to get Chris Long.
 
Thats quite a wish list1. Just trade the second for Roy now. He's the most cost effective move. Fitz would cost too much. Arizona doesnt need a corner so you arent trading Lito for Fitz.2. Odom can be had reasonably. Actually is a good target.3. I'm not sure what Wilson would cost.4. Florance is not an upgrade on Shephard. 5. Fine6. I think McKelvin is going higher than 19th.The Eagles do not have anywhere near the amunition to move up to the top 5 to get Chris Long.
1. I agree Roy or Walker might be more feasible but I just have a feeling Fitz may not be out of the question. Cards probably have more pressing needs but I don't think Eric Green is an all-world CB.2. Cool3. "Free agent S Gibril Wilson is believed to be in search of a contract paying him $11 million in guarantees" Not ridiculous and he was coached by Spags so should be an easy fit into JJ's scheme. However, I think the Giants will try to keep him and he'll probably resign there.4. Agreed, its a downgrade5. OK then6. I've seen a few drafts where McKelvin drops past 19 so who knows. I didn't mean trade up for Long, I meant someone who'll drop to the late first/early second (Williams, Richardson, etc). However, perhaps it's more likely that these picks are swapped (OT in 1st, CB in 2nd).
 
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Just for giggles, my offseason prediction/wishlist:1. Trade Lito + 5th for Fitz or trade 2nd for Roy2. Sign Odom3. Sign Wilson4. Sign Drayton Florence if Lito is traded5. Pick up veteran DT or move Howard to DT6. CB (McKelvin) with 1st pick, trade up to get OT with second pick.7. Cruise control to SB. :own3d:
:rolleyes:
 
Thats quite a wish list1. Just trade the second for Roy now. He's the most cost effective move. Fitz would cost too much. Arizona doesnt need a corner so you arent trading Lito for Fitz.2. Odom can be had reasonably. Actually is a good target.3. I'm not sure what Wilson would cost.4. Florance is not an upgrade on Shephard. 5. Fine6. I think McKelvin is going higher than 19th.The Eagles do not have anywhere near the amunition to move up to the top 5 to get Chris Long.
1. I agree Roy or Walker might be more feasible but I just have a feeling Fitz may not be out of the question. Cards probably have more pressing needs but I don't think Eric Green is an all-world CB.2. Cool3. "Free agent S Gibril Wilson is believed to be in search of a contract paying him $11 million in guarantees" Not ridiculous and he was coached by Spags so should be an easy fit into JJ's scheme. However, I think the Giants will try to keep him and he'll probably resign there.4. Agreed, its a downgrade5. OK then6. I've seen a few drafts where McKelvin drops past 19 so who knows. I didn't mean trade up for Long, I meant someone who'll drop to the late first/early second (Williams, Richardson, etc). However, perhaps it's more likely that these picks are swapped (OT in 1st, CB in 2nd).
My comment about the Eagles having a chance at Chris Long was not directed at you sorry. Others have mentioned trade up to get Long. Not going to happen.
 
Final thoughts on FA as midnight nears...

(removed Franchised players and expecting Moss to re-sign with NE)

CB

A. Samuel

D. Florence

F. Bryant

C. Carr (Restricted - Undrafted)

S

G. Wilson

M. Williams

DE

J. Smith

C. Canty (Restricted – 4th)

A. Odom

T. LaBoy

WR

DJ Hackett

A. Davis

B. Johnson

R. Williams/L. Fitzgerald/healthy J. Walker (Trade)

LB

L. Briggs

OL

A. Faneca

M. Starks

F. Womack

I think all of those players will be signed by Sunday, so let's enjoy the show as much as we can...

 
A couple observations:

Javon Walker is going to get cut. Teams in the league know this so the only reason to even make a trade with Denver is so that nobody else can get him. I think if there is a receiver out there who the Eagles like, they need to make the move sooner rather than later.

Why hasn't Kearse been cut yet? I assume (but don't know for sure) that he is due a roster bonus on March 1st. What is the holdup?

Are they seriously considering keeping Darren Howard? 3.2 million cap hit is ridiculous for a guy who can't get on the field even when he's healthy, he's that far down on the depth chart.

 
I can only assume they are trying to trade Kearse before they have to cut him.

And it seems like they may hang onto Howard. JJ told him he has to play more Tackle though.

 
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :hot:
You think Philly wants to deal with Drew R again?
With his injury history, I don't think too many (if any) teams will give Walker a long contract that doesn't have a team option after the first year if he doesn't produce or can't stay healthy. Even with Rosenhaus, Javon needs to prove something before getting a big deal. The situation was not the same for TO.
 
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Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :shrug:
:goodposting: I want no part of Javon Walker.He's 90% of TO's headaches with 50% of his ability. Not to mention he's no spring chicken (he'll be 30 this year) and has had two major injuries robbing him of 2 of the last 3 seasons. I would be disgusted if Philly brings him in for anything less than a really cheap deal with minimal guarantees.
 
How active Philly is in the early going will show a lot about whether Donovan still "has Andy's ear" as most have believed for years. Clearly McNabb thew the gauntlet down by saying the team needed to go out and sign more "playmakers" and, given the cap situation and the relative age of the KEY parts of the team; it's a strategy that makes a lot of sense to me.

I know a few people have pointed out that the Eagles aren't "old" per se, but realistically we are an old team b/c the most vital components of our roster are past their primes. When your QB, both starting tackles and the QB of your defense are all past their primes, that's not an easy fix. The good news is that McNabb, Runyan, Thomas and Dawkins all SHOULD have productive years left; but to think we're going to magically build from within and also recapture the talent level at those key positions simultaneously is foolhardy IMHO.

 
A couple observations:

Javon Walker is going to get cut. Teams in the league know this so the only reason to even make a trade with Denver is so that nobody else can get him. I think if there is a receiver out there who the Eagles like, they need to make the move sooner rather than later.

Why hasn't Kearse been cut yet? I assume (but don't know for sure) that he is due a roster bonus on March 1st. What is the holdup?

Are they seriously considering keeping Darren Howard? 3.2 million cap hit is ridiculous for a guy who can't get on the field even when he's healthy, he's that far down on the depth chart.
Kearse cut
 
How active Philly is in the early going will show a lot about whether Donovan still "has Andy's ear" as most have believed for years. Clearly McNabb thew the gauntlet down by saying the team needed to go out and sign more "playmakers" and, given the cap situation and the relative age of the KEY parts of the team; it's a strategy that makes a lot of sense to me.

I know a few people have pointed out that the Eagles aren't "old" per se, but realistically we are an old team b/c the most vital components of our roster are past their primes. When your QB, both starting tackles and the QB of your defense are all past their primes, that's not an easy fix. The good news is that McNabb, Runyan, Thomas and Dawkins all SHOULD have productive years left; but to think we're going to magically build from within and also recapture the talent level at those key positions simultaneously is foolhardy IMHO.
Would you not say the same thing about the Patriots? Reid is plenty aware that these guys are getting up there in age. They drafted what projected as a first round Left Tackle 2 years ago, and last year they used their first pick on a QB. Many mock drafts have them focusing on the secondary with their first round pick this year. Not one of Cole, Patterson, Bunkley, Gaither, Gocong, Bradley, Mikell, Brown, Sheppard is over 30, and Brown is the only one who will be over 27 when the season starts. How much younger should the team be?

Personally, I thought the defense looked pretty good in the 2nd half of the season. They held the New England offense to 24 points, and against Seattle every one of the TD drives was 53 yards or fewer. This was mostly AJ Feeley's fault.

The team needs playmakers, and the players have spoken out and said that. Taking a chance on an injured Javon Walker is probably worth the risk IMO, for the sole reason that when he's on the field he makes a difference (something you can't say about any of the receivers now). If they do sign him, the contract will definitely have to be an incentive laden one with team options in case he can't get healthy. Coming into this season he was probably a top 10-15 receiver. They need to bring in an impact player regardless of the player's age.

 
How active Philly is in the early going will show a lot about whether Donovan still "has Andy's ear" as most have believed for years. Clearly McNabb thew the gauntlet down by saying the team needed to go out and sign more "playmakers" and, given the cap situation and the relative age of the KEY parts of the team; it's a strategy that makes a lot of sense to me.

I know a few people have pointed out that the Eagles aren't "old" per se, but realistically we are an old team b/c the most vital components of our roster are past their primes. When your QB, both starting tackles and the QB of your defense are all past their primes, that's not an easy fix. The good news is that McNabb, Runyan, Thomas and Dawkins all SHOULD have productive years left; but to think we're going to magically build from within and also recapture the talent level at those key positions simultaneously is foolhardy IMHO.
Would you not say the same thing about the Patriots? Reid is plenty aware that these guys are getting up there in age. They drafted what projected as a first round Left Tackle 2 years ago, and last year they used their first pick on a QB. Many mock drafts have them focusing on the secondary with their first round pick this year. Not one of Cole, Patterson, Bunkley, Gaither, Gocong, Bradley, Mikell, Brown, Sheppard is over 30, and Brown is the only one who will be over 27 when the season starts. How much younger should the team be?

Personally, I thought the defense looked pretty good in the 2nd half of the season. They held the New England offense to 24 points, and against Seattle every one of the TD drives was 53 yards or fewer. This was mostly AJ Feeley's fault.

The team needs playmakers, and the players have spoken out and said that. Taking a chance on an injured Javon Walker is probably worth the risk IMO, for the sole reason that when he's on the field he makes a difference (something you can't say about any of the receivers now). If they do sign him, the contract will definitely have to be an incentive laden one with team options in case he can't get healthy. Coming into this season he was probably a top 10-15 receiver. They need to bring in an impact player regardless of the player's age.
Sure, but I'm not a Patriots season ticket holder and they are already AT a Super Bowl caliber level. :wub: As to drafting a first round left tackle...well here's the thing, like any Eagles fan I loved the Winston Justice pick at the time. But the kid isn't a capable replacement. Could he start eventually? Sure. But he's not Tra Thomas. And we also drafted Shaun Andrews to eventually replace Runyan; but he's quietly become one of the best interior lineman in the league so moving him would create a huge hole inside; plus I don't think Andrews is really well suited for RT at this point.

Basically we're agreeing. The Eagles SHOULD be aggressive this free agency period. We aren't that far away from contending, but we need playmakers on both sides of the ball. In this inflationary environment, playmakers are going to cost more than some feel they're worth. We should be OK with that and pay for difference makers if they're available to us.

 
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :shrug:
You think Philly wants to deal with Drew R again?
Rosenhaus represents some other players for the Eagles, I know McDougle for sure but I'm not sure who else. But the fact is they will have to deal with him again in the future, I think he reps over 100 players, so I don't think that's a factor in who they might sign.
 
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :shrug:
:X I want no part of Javon Walker.He's 90% of TO's headaches with 50% of his ability. Not to mention he's no spring chicken (he'll be 30 this year) and has had two major injuries robbing him of 2 of the last 3 seasons. I would be disgusted if Philly brings him in for anything less than a really cheap deal with minimal guarantees.
:thumbup: And BTW- Walker will not be cut by Denver. They cap hit is too highSo just fuggehitaboutit :rolleyes:
 
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :no:
:shock: I want no part of Javon Walker.He's 90% of TO's headaches with 50% of his ability. Not to mention he's no spring chicken (he'll be 30 this year) and has had two major injuries robbing him of 2 of the last 3 seasons. I would be disgusted if Philly brings him in for anything less than a really cheap deal with minimal guarantees.
To be fair JW, you wanted no part of TO and I believe were most interested in Darrell Jackson and Isaac Bruce. I disagree with Walker and TO having the same ache, and i know we will diisagree on this (again). TO wanted the money he deserved. TO wanted the money he could get elsewhere. TO got 10mil per year from Dallas. TO was getting 2 million from Philly in a deal that the NFLPA told him not to sign. The PHI FO wanting TO to play for considerably less than he was worth was ... and still is ... the headache. Walker is riding off of 1 season and 2 1/2 seasons. That is the reason we dont want him. He needs to prove himself. Not the same as TO.I think we get Fitz. TO money will 90% of the ability and much much less headache. Makes sense dont you think?
 
JAA said:
Jason Wood said:
dotman said:
Well I heard the Birds are extremely interested in Javon Walker once he's cut. We'll see :shrug:
:X I want no part of Javon Walker.He's 90% of TO's headaches with 50% of his ability. Not to mention he's no spring chicken (he'll be 30 this year) and has had two major injuries robbing him of 2 of the last 3 seasons. I would be disgusted if Philly brings him in for anything less than a really cheap deal with minimal guarantees.
To be fair JW, you wanted no part of TO and I believe were most interested in Darrell Jackson and Isaac Bruce. I disagree with Walker and TO having the same ache, and i know we will diisagree on this (again). TO wanted the money he deserved. TO wanted the money he could get elsewhere. TO got 10mil per year from Dallas. TO was getting 2 million from Philly in a deal that the NFLPA told him not to sign. The PHI FO wanting TO to play for considerably less than he was worth was ... and still is ... the headache. Walker is riding off of 1 season and 2 1/2 seasons. That is the reason we dont want him. He needs to prove himself. Not the same as TO.I think we get Fitz. TO money will 90% of the ability and much much less headache. Makes sense dont you think?
Might want to check that JAA. I didn't have a problem with TO, I just didn't believe the rumors that we would acquire him considering Reid's history of eschewing 30-year old free agents, or the WR position. When we actually acquired him I was giddier than Chase at a Joe Namath Convention! :) And, sure, like any Eagles fan I have no love lost for TO considering the way things devolved but I in no way, shape or form absolve the role Reid, Banner and McNabb played in creating that situation. TO came back from a broken bone to play in the Super Bowl and all we had to do was be proactive and guarantee that roster bonus and add another year or two to his deal. By not doing that, and then a chance encounter with Drew Rosenhaus at ESPN Celebrity Bowling, the rest is a painful history. You'll also recall that I said TO would end up in Dallas and it would make me sick b/c they would win a lot of games with him. ;)As to Walker; again, this isn't TO we're talking about. TO had no injury history before he joined our team, was already on a Hall of Fame pace, and was unquestionably one of the premier talents at his position. He also came aboard grateful to be a part of that team as you'll recall. Will I embrace Walker if we acquire him? Sure, of course.
 
Reed re-signed and Hanson tendered. Two good moves IMO.

The Eagles have agreed to terms on a one-year contract with safety J.R. Reed and tendered a one-year contract to restricted free agent cornerback Joselio Hanson. If another club signs Hanson to an offer sheet, the Eagles have seven days to match that offer. If they choose not to match, the Eagles will receive a 2nd round draft choice as compensation.

Reed, who was scheduled to become a restricted free agent tomorrow, was originally a fourth-round draft pick of the Eagles in 2004. He re-signed with Philadelphia in 2007 and played in 15 games (3 starts) as a reserve safety and kickoff returner, registering 23 tackles, including a career-high 11 against Seattle on December 2. Reed also returned 31 kickoffs, averaging 22.6 yards per return in 2007.

For his career, the 26-year-old Reed has averaged 22.3 yards per kickoff return and has played in 35 games (4 starts), logging 50 tackles. A native of Tampa, FL, he played collegiately at South Florida.

The 26-year-old Hanson joined the Eagles in 2006, after originally signing with the San Francisco 49ers as a rookie free agent in 2003. He played in all 16 games (4 starts) in 2007, serving primarily as the team's nickel cornerback and registered a career-high 45 tackles, adding 1 sack and 1 fumble recovery.

A graduate of Texas Tech, Hanson has played in 45 career games (8 starts), logging 99 tackles, 2 sacks, and 21 knockdowns.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15158
 
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Reed re-signed and Hanson tendered. Two good moves IMO.

The Eagles have agreed to terms on a one-year contract with safety J.R. Reed and tendered a one-year contract to restricted free agent cornerback Joselio Hanson. If another club signs Hanson to an offer sheet, the Eagles have seven days to match that offer. If they choose not to match, the Eagles will receive a 2nd round draft choice as compensation.

Reed, who was scheduled to become a restricted free agent tomorrow, was originally a fourth-round draft pick of the Eagles in 2004. He re-signed with Philadelphia in 2007 and played in 15 games (3 starts) as a reserve safety and kickoff returner, registering 23 tackles, including a career-high 11 against Seattle on December 2. Reed also returned 31 kickoffs, averaging 22.6 yards per return in 2007.

For his career, the 26-year-old Reed has averaged 22.3 yards per kickoff return and has played in 35 games (4 starts), logging 50 tackles. A native of Tampa, FL, he played collegiately at South Florida.

The 26-year-old Hanson joined the Eagles in 2006, after originally signing with the San Francisco 49ers as a rookie free agent in 2003. He played in all 16 games (4 starts) in 2007, serving primarily as the team's nickel cornerback and registered a career-high 45 tackles, adding 1 sack and 1 fumble recovery.

A graduate of Texas Tech, Hanson has played in 45 career games (8 starts), logging 99 tackles, 2 sacks, and 21 knockdowns.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?STORY_ID=15158
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