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** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)

Deranged: I know the Cardinals are saying that they won't trade Boldin, but I'm hoping that's because they want to be bowled over with an awesome offer. Any news on the Boldin/Eagles front?
The Eagles remain interested, but it appears the Cards are not. If I were the Eagles, I'd just say 'eff it' and offer Lito and their lowest 1st for him. I really think he could be the differance between a good season and a special one.
 
I feel like a voice in the wilderness here, but I am completely convinced we will lose more games this year with Hanson as our 3rd CB and Boldin (or insert star WR here) at WR that we would with the current roster. If they could get Boldin (or whomever) without giving up Lito, I'm all for it.
:goodposting: you aren't alone brother. I'd love a top-notch WR, but McNabb at his best overcomes that lack (he's done it his whole career). I like Hanson, but he can't touch Shep's jockstrap at this point.
 
I feel like a voice in the wilderness here, but I am completely convinced we will lose more games this year with Hanson as our 3rd CB and Boldin (or insert star WR here) at WR that we would with the current roster. If they could get Boldin (or whomever) without giving up Lito, I'm all for it.
Agreed. Last year the Birds were ranked #6 in total offense and that was with a questionable McNabb. I would much rather have the 3 corners we have then using Litto to get Boldin. I am not saying I would not want Boldin on the team, but I would sure as heck wouldnt give Litto and a 1st. IMO this team needs one thing on offense and thats a great red zone target. I would much rather see this team get rid of LJ Smith and someone who has a chance to live up to his potential. Imagine this offense with a TE like Witten and the WRs we have, things would look much better IMO.
 
Glad to see I'm not alone. :excited:

IMO this team needs one thing on offense and thats a great red zone target. I would much rather see this team get rid of LJ Smith and someone who has a chance to live up to his potential. Imagine this offense with a TE like Witten and the WRs we have, things would look much better IMO.
Thanks for brining me back to the 2003 draft...Eagles 2nd round pick is up and I am SCREAMING "PICK WITTEN!" - alas, we take LJ and Witten lasts another round for the Cowpies to get...Hopefully Smith and Baskett can fix that issue this year. :fingerscrossed:
 
Looks like Jackson is getting the start this week with Brown nursing a hammy...

"The Eagles starting units will see plenty of action Friday night in New England as Andy Reid is slated to play his starters into the 3rd quarter. One starter that will definitely not play is WR Reggie Brown, who will be sidelined with a hamstring strain. Rookie WR DeSean Jackson will take his place in the starting lineup. As far as Shawn Andrews' status, Coach Reid has been pleased and encouraged by his week of practice but no determination has yet been made on whether he will see action on Friday night."

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Deranged: I know the Cardinals are saying that they won't trade Boldin, but I'm hoping that's because they want to be bowled over with an awesome offer. Any news on the Boldin/Eagles front?
The Eagles remain interested, but it appears the Cards are not. If I were the Eagles, I'd just say 'eff it' and offer Lito and their lowest 1st for him. I really think he could be the differance between a good season and a special one.
They may want to try a little harder - Merrill Reese just reported on 610 that Curtis has a spors hernia and will be having surgery shortly
 
This is very bad, the WRs were bad enough with Curtis without them they may have the worse set of wideouts in the NFL. DeSean Jackson is officially the only deep threat they have now, I feel so bad for Donovan McNabb, it must suck that have played almost your whole career with crap recievers.

 
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Maybe this is strange, but for some reason I'm not too upset about this. I think that our WR group needed a lot of attention, upgrades, etc, and that wasn't happening. Maybe now they will. Also, I really wanted to see what DeJax has, so now he has plenty of opportunity.

Thinking too much on the bright side of things here? Or is it a decent with to have our WRs as a whole inspected closer by the organization.

Of course, if we don't do anything, ie bring in Boldin, this kinda sucks. Baskett + Jackson + Lewis? Hm..

 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.

I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.

 
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Why not sign Terry Glenn to a veteran minimum, incentive laden one year contract. Guy can still play if he is healthy. Not a lot of risk at this point.

 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
Sorry losing a guy that had 6 total TDs (3 of them in one game) as my #1 WR, was not even close to leading the team in receptions and worst of all wasn't that much better than Reggie Brown... Sorry dont feel he is a HUGE loss to the offense.
 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
Yeah it hurts, it's going to make the WRs below avg but it won't cripple the offense. Initially I thought it woul but even if defense crowd the LOS McNabb and Westbrook can still do some damage.
 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
I want to see more of Jackson also but losing Curtis is still a significant loss. If you're the opposing defensive coordinator, Desean jackson has now risen to the second most important receiver to pass-defend (behind Westbrook).
 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
Sorry losing a guy that had 6 total TDs (3 of them in one game) as my #1 WR, was not even close to leading the team in receptions and worst of all wasn't that much better than Reggie Brown... Sorry dont feel he is a HUGE loss to the offense.
While technically its not a HUGE loss, its still big. Granted Curtis sucks, but the guys behind him on the depth chart suck even worse.in short, they're the suckiest group of sucks that ever did suck.
 
Losing Curtis is a big deal. He had something like 77 receptions and 1,100 yards. He may have only scored 6 TDs, but to be honest a receiver of his size isn't going to be a big TD guy in the first place. He was brought in to Philly last season to be a deep threat complimentary starting WR to Reggie Brown who was supposed to step up and be Philly's #1. Curtis was very good at what he was brought in to do, even if he was not good enough to make up for the fact that Philly has no one capable of being a #1. With Curtis out for a while DeSean Jackson will have to beat much tougher coverage.

DH- Give us some hope that Lewis and Baskett won't be starting for us week 1.

 
Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
Sorry losing a guy that had 6 total TDs (3 of them in one game) as my #1 WR, was not even close to leading the team in receptions and worst of all wasn't that much better than Reggie Brown... Sorry dont feel he is a HUGE loss to the offense.
While technically its not a HUGE loss, its still big. Granted Curtis sucks, but the guys behind him on the depth chart suck even worse.in short, they're the suckiest group of sucks that ever did suck.
Torrance Small and Charles Johnson bad? :goodposting:
 
GUYS!...let's step back and take a deeeeeeeep breath for just a second. Sports hernia? On a WR? What's the recovery time...5 weeks MAYBE? three games, maybe four, TOPS, with a good chance of it being only 1 or 2?

Curtis is a vet already confortable in the system. I'm not worried about his practice time. The extra practice reps for DJ/Avant/Baskett can only be good for them. DJ may have his opportunity to shine much earlier then we (or at least I) previously thought, but in the long run I don't think this is all that big a deal. It may even turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

 
Losing Curtis is a big deal. He had something like 77 receptions and 1,100 yards. He may have only scored 6 TDs, but to be honest a receiver of his size isn't going to be a big TD guy in the first place. He was brought in to Philly last season to be a deep threat complimentary starting WR to Reggie Brown who was supposed to step up and be Philly's #1. Curtis was very good at what he was brought in to do, even if he was not good enough to make up for the fact that Philly has no one capable of being a #1. With Curtis out for a while DeSean Jackson will have to beat much tougher coverage.DH- Give us some hope that Lewis and Baskett won't be starting for us week 1.
Wish I could. Maybe this will boot the Eagles in the ### and make them overpay a bit.
 
GUYS!...let's step back and take a deeeeeeeep breath for just a second. Sports hernia? On a WR? What's the recovery time...5 weeks MAYBE? three games, maybe four, TOPS, with a good chance of it being only 1 or 2?Curtis is a vet already confortable in the system. I'm not worried about his practice time. The extra practice reps for DJ/Avant/Baskett can only be good for them. DJ may have his opportunity to shine much earlier then we (or at least I) previously thought, but in the long run I don't think this is all that big a deal. It may even turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
LJ Smith and D McNabb down? A sports hernia can have an impact on a player for a LONG time, even after the surgery. You could argue that McNabba dn LJ have not been the same since their hernia operations. And Curtis cant afford to lose any of his physical skills as he was lacking them to begin with.
 
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Is losing Curtis a big blow to this offense, the answer is no. Of course I am not happy to see him hurt but IMO there is nothing that special about Curtis that has me that worried that his production can not be replaced. Now if Westbrook got hurt, clearly we would be in trouble.I agree with Chunky Soup, I hope this just means we get to see more of the 169lb wonder.
losing curtis is not a big blow? denial
Sorry losing a guy that had 6 total TDs (3 of them in one game) as my #1 WR, was not even close to leading the team in receptions and worst of all wasn't that much better than Reggie Brown... Sorry dont feel he is a HUGE loss to the offense.
While technically its not a HUGE loss, its still big. Granted Curtis sucks, but the guys behind him on the depth chart suck even worse.in short, they're the suckiest group of sucks that ever did suck.
Torrance Small and Charles Johnson bad? :excited:
i'm sorry, who? They must have played during those years that i had erased from my memory...thanks Total Recall!
 
BuddyKnuckles said:
renesauz said:
GUYS!...let's step back and take a deeeeeeeep breath for just a second. Sports hernia? On a WR? What's the recovery time...5 weeks MAYBE? three games, maybe four, TOPS, with a good chance of it being only 1 or 2?Curtis is a vet already confortable in the system. I'm not worried about his practice time. The extra practice reps for DJ/Avant/Baskett can only be good for them. DJ may have his opportunity to shine much earlier then we (or at least I) previously thought, but in the long run I don't think this is all that big a deal. It may even turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
LJ Smith and D McNabb down? A sports hernia can have an impact on a player for a LONG time, even after the surgery. You could argue that McNabba dn LJ have not been the same since their hernia operations. And Curtis cant afford to lose any of his physical skills as he was lacking them to begin with.
:popcorn: McNabb tried to play through his for weeks, and finally went on IR after a severe groin pull came with it. (And he looked fantastic the next fall...until the knee went out) LJ also faced other complicating injuries, and it's kind of a stretch to compare the physicality of a TE to that of a speed WR. Big differance between blocking LB's (or getting hit by LBs) and dealing with CB's. Sports hernia's dealt with promptly rarely turn into major issues.McNabb really doesn't compare.
 
BuddyKnuckles said:
renesauz said:
GUYS!...let's step back and take a deeeeeeeep breath for just a second. Sports hernia? On a WR? What's the recovery time...5 weeks MAYBE? three games, maybe four, TOPS, with a good chance of it being only 1 or 2?Curtis is a vet already confortable in the system. I'm not worried about his practice time. The extra practice reps for DJ/Avant/Baskett can only be good for them. DJ may have his opportunity to shine much earlier then we (or at least I) previously thought, but in the long run I don't think this is all that big a deal. It may even turn out to be a blessing in disguise.
LJ Smith and D McNabb down? A sports hernia can have an impact on a player for a LONG time, even after the surgery. You could argue that McNabba dn LJ have not been the same since their hernia operations. And Curtis cant afford to lose any of his physical skills as he was lacking them to begin with.
:lmao: McNabb tried to play through his for weeks, and finally went on IR after a severe groin pull came with it. (And he looked fantastic the next fall...until the knee went out) LJ also faced other complicating injuries, and it's kind of a stretch to compare the physicality of a TE to that of a speed WR. Big differance between blocking LB's (or getting hit by LBs) and dealing with CB's. Sports hernia's dealt with promptly rarely turn into major issues.McNabb really doesn't compare.
Exactly, when a player suffers a core injury (i.e. back/abdomen) they compensate and adjust how they move and end up with other injuries. i just dont see a guy, whose only asset is his quickness, being able to completely heal in just a month or two from surgery to his groin/lower abdominal area. All those quick cuts that Curtis needs to (almost) get open. He's just not going to be able to do that for a good period of time. Not to mention the fact that he will be in horrible shape when he comes back somewhere aroudn wks 2-4.I'm still on board with this not being a HUGE injury. but, mainly because Curtis is garbage as a #1 WR to begin with. And i think its kind of funny (in a sad way) how much worse the WRs are getting for McNabb. its almost as if the F.O. wants him to fail.
 
Exactly, when a player suffers a core injury (i.e. back/abdomen) they compensate and adjust how they move and end up with other injuries. i just dont see a guy, whose only asset is his quickness, being able to completely heal in just a month or two from surgery to his groin/lower abdominal area. All those quick cuts that Curtis needs to (almost) get open. He's just not going to be able to do that for a good period of time. Not to mention the fact that he will be in horrible shape when he comes back somewhere aroudn wks 2-4.
Umm...the extra injuries came from trying to play THROUGH the hernia.A hernia operation won't touch a player's basic speed.He's a professional athlete...he isn't going to completely lose his conditioning in 5 weeks time. Right when he gets back, he may need a play off every four instead of his normal five or six...not really an issue there. A hernia may hurt core strength...but core strehgth has almost nothing to do with what Curtis normally brings to the table.I really think by week 4 or 5, this is a non-issue.
 
Any thoughts on tonight's game for the out-of-towners? Looks like McNabb is having another solid game. How does the line look? Are the Pats bringing any pressure or are they playing vanilla?

 
Check the game thread, but:

DeSean is a force. Seriously.

Donovan McNabb looks sharp. As a result, Avant, LJ Smith and DeJax looks good Even Baskett. :)

 
Some thoughts

DJax should be a pick up in the mid to late rounds.

McNabb is firing lasers.

Westy looks good.

Avant and Baskett are showing they can play ( which most of us knew )

 
Let's update a painful memory from the past with a current song shall we?

"DeSEAN, DeSean, DeSean, DeSean...DeSean...DeSean"

:lmao:

 
One guy we haven't mentioned that may make a BIG difference for this team is Rocca. Yeah...the punter. Maybe we haven't mentioned him because we don't use punters in fantasy...but this guy looks very, very good ths year. He's been more consistant then last year, and obviously has a HUGE leg.

And yes...that matters to us in fantasy too...better field position leads to more scores....but I'm real excited about what he may mean to the Eagles on game days.

 
One guy we haven't mentioned that may make a BIG difference for this team is Rocca. Yeah...the punter. Maybe we haven't mentioned him because we don't use punters in fantasy...but this guy looks very, very good ths year. He's been more consistant then last year, and obviously has a HUGE leg.And yes...that matters to us in fantasy too...better field position leads to more scores....but I'm real excited about what he may mean to the Eagles on game days.
I agree. He seems to be doing this year, what people thought he was capable of last year.
 
One guy we haven't mentioned that may make a BIG difference for this team is Rocca. Yeah...the punter. Maybe we haven't mentioned him because we don't use punters in fantasy...but this guy looks very, very good ths year. He's been more consistant then last year, and obviously has a HUGE leg.And yes...that matters to us in fantasy too...better field position leads to more scores....but I'm real excited about what he may mean to the Eagles on game days.
:moneybag: He did a great job. A team trying to make a comeback has got to be demoralized when they keep having to start inside the 10, the 5 etc.
 
This game is a wet dream for Eagles fans. Everything was clicking against a excellent team.
I was thinking the same thing. Jackson catching everything in sight and then returning a PR for a TD! Plus Demps returning a 101 yarder for another TD. McNabb laser sharp without his projected top two wideouts. L.J. Smith getting in the action and looking physical. The front seven playing with energy. After crappy news on Curtis this week, it was great to see this kind of performance.
 
I was having a #### day today, the first half of tonights game put a big smile on my face :thumbdown:

 
Regarding on immediate on field results, this is the best draft class I can remember.

Jackson is an amazing talent, and it's apparent that he has a good feel for the game to go along with it. Best playmaker drafted by Reid after Westbrook.

Laws hasn't been flashy but he's already the 3rd DT and looks like he belongs there.

Bryan Smith hasn't done much but looks like he's becoming more comfortable and he's made a couple nice plays in the last two games.

Demps looks lost at corner last night but he was drafted as a safety and KR. Took one to the house last night which is likely all he'll be asked to do this year, be productive as a KR.

Joe Mays is the guy that I'm most excited about next to Jackson. Guy is running 2nd team MLB and is all over the field, around every play. Makes good reads in run defense to make plays behind the LOS and has made a number of solid open field tackles as well.

Dunlap is a huge tackle, well more tall than massive, but he's running 2nd team OL at LT and looks to be a player if he can Castillo can teach him to bend at the hips and lower his pads. Not bad for a 7th rd pick who before the season had an early rd grade. Lost his confidence and lost his job at Auburn but you can see why people were high on him if he can keep it pointed in the right direction.

OL McGlynn seems like a nasty OG or even C prospect that will be stashed somewhere for this year and will compete for a position next year when the old guys leave and Herramens (and Andrews??)get moved to OT.

 

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