Sorry, but a receiver who's seventh on Dallas' depth chart has nothing to offer Philly. The Eagles already have two decent WRs in Curtis and D. Jackson, as well as a slew of average hit or miss guys (Brown, Lewis, Avant). I don't think a practice squad reject is going to be an improvement over the average guys we already have.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
There's probably a handful of teams that the 7th WR for that franchise would be WR5 at worst for Philadelphia.Don't kid yourself.Greg Lewis suits up. GREG LEWIS!!!!
Exactly......I'm willing to give Amendola a shot. Couldn't be any worse than Lewis, right? And if he is, so be it.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
ok, i'm on board with anything that dumps Greg Lewis. Can we get rid of Considine too?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
The 4th safety should be replaced at the draft. That's a given.We'll save that for March and April discussions...
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
... and a TE pleaseThe 4th safety should be replaced at the draft. That's a given.We'll save that for March and April discussions...
What is wrong with Celek? He is an upgrade over LJ as far as I'm concerned. A backup for him?.......Ok.... and a TE pleaseThe 4th safety should be replaced at the draft. That's a given.We'll save that for March and April discussions...
JAA
Footballguy
2009 Avant = 2008 Tyree
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Avant gets the yardage he needs in order to move the sticks & is absolutely fearless. Focusing on his YAC marginalizes how important he is to this team. IMO they should be looking to extend him.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Considine? The same guy who was just voted Special Teams MVP by his teammates? Yeah, he's got no value whatsoever.
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
I LOLed here. I like him, but "absolutely fearless" is a bit strong. I reserve that for guys like Boldin, TO, etc. Avant? C'mon.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
I know he's Reid's boy, so he's not going anywhere. But to me it seems like a waste of a roster spot to have a guy who can only play special teams (excluding kickers obviously). Ok, so he makes some special teams plays. So did Ike Reese, but at least he was a serviceable linebacker. And they dumped him, so why not Considine?All you need for special teams is some crazy dude who doesnt quite have the size to be a starter at his position. These kind of players are dime a dozen compared to trying to find a stud QB, #1 WR, or fierce MLB.
gonzobill5
Footballguy
Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Don't get me wrong, I like Avant for what he brings - but I'd rather have a guy who can beat a linebacker and take it down the seam. Avant's a good target, has good hands and converts key first downs (unsung hero last week, IMHO).Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
We already have two WR's who meet that criteria, why bring in another?Don't get me wrong, I like Avant for what he brings - but I'd rather have a guy who can beat a linebacker and take it down the seam. Avant's a good target, has good hands and converts key first downs (unsung hero last week, IMHO).Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
It has nothing to do with being "Reid's boy". His teammates apparently feel he has plenty of value. Seriously if you're going to take aim at somebody, why not Shoebel or a 2nd round turd like Justice (whose special team play actually hurts the team to the point he was pulled)?
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
We already have two WR's who meet that criteria, why bring in another?Don't get me wrong, I like Avant for what he brings - but I'd rather have a guy who can beat a linebacker and take it down the seam. Avant's a good target, has good hands and converts key first downs (unsung hero last week, IMHO).Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
What criteria?dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Apparently you didn't watch the Washington game where he got layed out because his quarterback failed to look off the safety. The guy does his best work in traffic & is one of the most under-appreciated players on the team.
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Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
White Lighting and DJax... we do not need another receiver in the same mold. We need a WR that is a legit red zone target. Not sure how you see it differently.:( What criteria?We already have two WR's who meet that criteria, why bring in another?Don't get me wrong, I like Avant for what he brings - but I'd rather have a guy who can beat a linebacker and take it down the seam. Avant's a good target, has good hands and converts key first downs (unsung hero last week, IMHO).Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
i assume justice will be gone. Shoebel's been up and down. We can go all the way through the roster and compare players to Considine, but that's not my point. My point is that if the Eagles wanted a star special teamer, they should have just kept Morey. That way, you can get rid of Lewis and Considine AND bring in a solid backup at Safety. With the eagles keeping 6 WRs on the roster, you can put a speacial teams MVP/#6WR at the bottom of the depth chart. There is a fairly good chance that you will need a contribution from Considine on D durign the year, and he just flat out cannot bring it, except on special teams.So again, special teams MVPs are dime a dozen. Backup safetys are not.
stevegamer
Footballguy
Every once in a while, a guy who who plays WR and is completely buried on a depth chart pans out when they go to another team. No reason not to take alook if you like the guy, and there's no draft pick compensation. Usually there are nothing, but they could be a franchise anchor - highly unlikely, but off the top of my head Steve Largent & Jimmy Smith fit the description.
dirtywaters20
Footballguy
Yeah it's a real easy stance to take now that the special teams have improved. I got ya; there is no room on a 53 man roster for a special teams MVP...right. I'm also sure if you did a league wide analysis of backup safeties that Considine would compare pretty equally to pretty much all of them in terms of performance in a base defense; I'm also sure that he's better than nearly all of them in terms of special teams performance. That's pretty important considering that's where he spends the lion's share of his time. I know it's fashionable to bash him but it doesn't mean it's warranted. He was a second day draft pick whose special teams play at Iowa played a large role in his being drafted. His physical limitations may prevent him from being an every down starter, but that doesn't mean he can't contribute.i assume justice will be gone. Shoebel's been up and down. We can go all the way through the roster and compare players to Considine, but that's not my point. My point is that if the Eagles wanted a star special teamer, they should have just kept Morey. That way, you can get rid of Lewis and Considine AND bring in a solid backup at Safety. With the eagles keeping 6 WRs on the roster, you can put a speacial teams MVP/#6WR at the bottom of the depth chart. There is a fairly good chance that you will need a contribution from Considine on D durign the year, and he just flat out cannot bring it, except on special teams.
So again, special teams MVPs are dime a dozen. Backup safetys are not.
Was thinking the same things. He's a horrible starter...I think we all agree on that. But is really bad as a backup? 
He's average at least in the backup role. And that's plenty good enough if he's also a ST MVP.The Considine hate is, at this point, unwarranted.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Fair enough. Let's just play this scenario out (hypothetical of course).Wes Welker joins the Eagles.How does that impact the WRs? Where do you line everyone up, and which WR is the odd man out?I'm not being sarcastic at all here. I think that this would be an interesting discussion.I'm also not saying Amendola = Welker. Just using the analogous player that he's been compared to. Since you don't believe that we need that type of WR (I can see that case being made), let's see how this would work out.White Lighting and DJax... we do not need another receiver in the same mold. We need a WR that is a legit red zone target. Not sure how you see it differently.We already have two WR's who meet that criteria, why bring in another?Don't get me wrong, I like Avant for what he brings - but I'd rather have a guy who can beat a linebacker and take it down the seam. Avant's a good target, has good hands and converts key first downs (unsung hero last week, IMHO).Avant reminds me of steve smith (NYG) - he makes a bunch of big catches and has very good hands, but doesn't seem to have the speed to take it to the next level. I also thought he'd be more physical after the catch.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
My point is that ST stars are relatively easy to find, so why not get one that can also actually play a position on the team. You're essentially saying that Considine is SO valuable on ST that he deserves his own separate roster spot, like a kicker or backup QB. Is he really that good on ST? Look, there are other guys on the roster that i would get rid of first, but Considine would be on my list to replace in the offseason.
The Considine hate is, at this point, unwarranted.
Anyway, its wednesday before the divisional playoffs and i'll have plenty of time to argue backup roster spots in March/April. So, i'm gonna start getting hyped for the game this sunday
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
McNabb still sore over benching, says "no one on the Giants D got benched when they played bad"
See, this is why he is hated by so many Philly fans. Instead of just accepting the bad with the good, putting his head down, working harder, and focusing on winning, he is whining or making "jokes" about how other guys didnt get benched when they played poorly. He's a whiny, emotional coward who cant come out and say he's angry. So, he hides behind his stupid perma-smile and press conference "jokes".
Look at Dawkins for an example of what this city loves. He had a horrible year, got hurt, was slow to plays, was out of shape and the media was hammering him. Did he whine and cry and make sarcastic jokes? No, he worked even harder in the offseason, played like he was 25 again, and made it back to the pro bowl.
So, yeah McNabb is the best option we have. And i'm sure we're stuck with his choking, puking, out of breath, goofy ### for the next few years. But, he'll never be loved in Philly the way he could have been.
See, this is why he is hated by so many Philly fans. Instead of just accepting the bad with the good, putting his head down, working harder, and focusing on winning, he is whining or making "jokes" about how other guys didnt get benched when they played poorly. He's a whiny, emotional coward who cant come out and say he's angry. So, he hides behind his stupid perma-smile and press conference "jokes".
Look at Dawkins for an example of what this city loves. He had a horrible year, got hurt, was slow to plays, was out of shape and the media was hammering him. Did he whine and cry and make sarcastic jokes? No, he worked even harder in the offseason, played like he was 25 again, and made it back to the pro bowl.
So, yeah McNabb is the best option we have. And i'm sure we're stuck with his choking, puking, out of breath, goofy ### for the next few years. But, he'll never be loved in Philly the way he could have been.
Nope...I'm saying you're under-rating him as a backup safety. A St ace only needs to be an average backup to be worthwhile. Considine is a bad starter...but a more then adequate role player/backup. I think that the standard for backups absolutely needs to be a lot more flexible then "he could start on many teams" or "he's young and should be a starter in a year or two". Championship teams will always have a dozen or so players that are merely average as a true backup, but valuable in a special role (like on ST's). We could do a heck of a lot worse then Considine as a fourth safety. there are at least a dozen far more pressing needs then this to consdier.hotdogcollars said:My point is that ST stars are relatively easy to find, so why not get one that can also actually play a position on the team. You're essentially saying that Considine is SO valuable on ST that he deserves his own separate roster spot, like a kicker or backup QB. Is he really that good on ST? Look, there are other guys on the roster that i would get rid of first, but Considine would be on my list to replace in the offseason.renesauz said:dirtywaters20 said:
The Considine hate is, at this point, unwarranted.
Anyway, its wednesday before the divisional playoffs and i'll have plenty of time to argue backup roster spots in March/April. So, i'm gonna start getting hyped for the game this sunday
Dude...you've read WAAAAAAAAY too much into both the statement and the article.It's been painfully obvious for a long while now that you simply hate the guy, and the only way he can ever make good in your eyes will be with a super-bowl MVP award....and even that will only be good enough until the mid point of the following season.
Maybe he was admitting in a round-about way that he was angry and frustrated at the time(of the benching). Would you rather he didn't care? Would that satisfy you better?
Or maybe he really was trying to stay loose with a joke?
My take is that he declined to say anything good or bad about the Giants defense, choosing instead to deflect the question altogether. That seems a fairly wise tactic to me....I mean, why give the G-men any kind of bulltein board material?
I mean...you moan and ##### constantly about AR's lack of personality in interviews and his standard answers...and then ##### and moan about McNabb's humorous deflection of a potentially loaded question!!!!?????
Please....find another team to root for. This kind of fan support (drumming up negativity where none should exist) is nauseating.
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Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Agreed, your crying gets really old.
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
No, I don't 'hate' you for showing me teh truth (laughable, by the way). I don't hate anybody, especially some internet big mouth who means nothing to me. I just wish you'd start a separate thread and confine all your McNabb-bashing to that thread instead of plluting every single Eagle regular season and playoff thread with your nonsense.You're a one trick pony who's act has gotten tired. Every Eagle fan here is tired of it, so take it somewhere else. Over the last six weeks, Mcnabb's been playing as well as any QB in the NFL. It might be refreshing to see you acknowledge that instead of combing teh internet for something negative to post about him.Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
Eagle fans are feeling a bit of a buzz right now and you always have to try to bring everyone down. You are BY FAR the worst Eagles fan on this board. You are a fun sucker.
I don't care if you're black. Stupidity knows no color.
No, I don't 'hate' you for showing me teh truth (laughable, by the way). I don't hate anybody, especially some internet big mouth who means nothing to me. I just wish you'd start a separate thread and confine all your McNabb-bashing to that thread instead of plluting every single Eagle regular season and playoff thread with your nonsense.You're a one trick pony who's act has gotten tired. Every Eagle fan here is tired of it, so take it somewhere else. Over the last six weeks, Mcnabb's been playing as well as any QB in the NFL. It might be refreshing to see you acknowledge that instead of combing teh internet for something negative to post about him.Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
Eagle fans are feeling a bit of a buzz right now and you always have to try to bring everyone down. You are BY FAR the worst Eagles fan on this board. You are a fun sucker.
I don't care if you're black. Stupidity knows no color.
My sentiments exactly.FWIW...I've seen a ton of wife-beaters who daily profess their undying love for their spouse. They even show it with a constant stream of gifts and other forms of affection.Do they really love them, or just THINK they love them???????
And BK...think carefully before you reply again...because this analogy is nowhere near as far-fetched as it first appears.
Love doesn't have to be blind...but it sure doesn't go out of it's way looking for faults, and it sure wouldn't post a hideous example of a perceived fault on an Internet message board!
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Ignatius Reilly
Footballguy
BK - I don't think most Philly fans hate McNabb - I live in Brooklyn but do check into to Ray Didinger on WIP so I guess I don't have a true read on how the city feels about him, but as there are areas he can be bashed, that town has definetly taken his ability for granted. I will say though the one clear critsicm of him which does warrant mention is that he does play the martyr role a little bit too much for my liking. I think were all diehards speaking here so I can say until you are hoisting the Lombardi trophy, just shut up and play and get it done this Sunday. You've been paid handsomly here while here and I agree he should force Upper Mgmt hand on a new contract and put all the commitment questions to bed.Reid is Reid, he drives us crazy with his play calling draws questioning on his player selection with the skill position players and in the same span has a higher winning % than Bill Parcells. Buddy Ryan went one and done with monster teams in the late 80's and Reid has gone to the playoffs 7 of his 10 years and is 7-0 in the first game. We can do alot worse at head coach.No, I don't 'hate' you for showing me teh truth (laughable, by the way). I don't hate anybody, especially some internet big mouth who means nothing to me. I just wish you'd start a separate thread and confine all your McNabb-bashing to that thread instead of plluting every single Eagle regular season and playoff thread with your nonsense.You're a one trick pony who's act has gotten tired. Every Eagle fan here is tired of it, so take it somewhere else. Over the last six weeks, Mcnabb's been playing as well as any QB in the NFL. It might be refreshing to see you acknowledge that instead of combing teh internet for something negative to post about him.Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
Eagle fans are feeling a bit of a buzz right now and you always have to try to bring everyone down. You are BY FAR the worst Eagles fan on this board. You are a fun sucker.
I don't care if you're black. Stupidity knows no color.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Great that you jumped on the bandwagon in the past 10 years and go to games. You constantly crying about the best QB our franchise has had is a tired act, let it go.Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
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Footballguy
I'm with you BK. The McNabb apologists will stop at nothing to defend him. I've also been to games, camp and had season tickets. McNabb is a career sub 60% passer in a high percentage passing O. He has continually thrown up clunkers in Championship games and the Superbowl. While he has improved this year on giving the WR's a chance (he's admitted it) he hasn't in the past. You also won't find a lot of wins where the D didn't carry the team. If they have a bad game he rarely if ever will carry the team.Great that you jumped on the bandwagon in the past 10 years and go to games. You constantly crying about the best QB our franchise has had is a tired act, let it go.Because i am more of an Eagles fan then most of you clowns ever will be. How many games have you all been to? 100 for me. Did you go to their super bowl in '04/'05? i was there. How many weekends have you spent flying across the country to watch a road game only to fly back at 6 am the next morning and go to work? At least 10 in the past few years for me. How long have season tickets been in your family? 40+ years in mine. How many jerseys do you sport? Did you go to every single home game during the dismal early 80s through the late 90s? How many fistfights have you been in defending your squad on the road? That's what i thought. Sit there on your couch, drink your wine spritzers, watch your big screen and pretend everything is "just peachy" with the eagles. I'll take an honest look and call out what i see. Yeah, i call out Reid for giving boiler plate answers in his pressers. Why? Because its true. And yeah i call out McNabb for cowering behind jokes and being too senstive. Why? Because its true.Disregard anything Buddy Knuckles says. He's a faux-Eagles fan who can't lose. If Philly wins, he acts happy and says they won in spite of McNabb. If they lose, he pouinds his chest with a great big 'I told you so' and goes off on his 1000th anti-Donovan rant. He's obviously racist and has a personal agenda against him.McNabb is 9-5 all-time in the playoffs and has the eagles on a 5 out of 6 roll right now and has played lights out 80% of that time. But BK is just laying low and waiting for that one bad game, or Eagles loss, to come out with his One Trick Pony show again.
Not really sure why he even posts in the eagles threads. Seems more like a Cowboy or Giant fan to me.
You just refuse to see the truth and you hate me for showing it to you. So, dont worry, i'll be here a very long time. And i'll be at the birds games for many years to come. I'll cheer when they do well, support true professionals and champions (like Dawk), and call out nonsense when i see it (like McNabbs quote)
And the fact that you call me racist against McNabb is hilarious. I AM BLACK YOU MORON
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Amazing.
The closest analogy I can make for Philly fans is that Mike Schmidt got treated the same way as McNabb.
Remember the wig and the sunglasses game for Schmitty? That's akin to Donovan's smiles and joking around.
It took the Phillies quite a while to bounce back after #20 was gone. He was missed way more after he left and underappreciated when he was in town. The same will be said about #5.
The closest analogy I can make for Philly fans is that Mike Schmidt got treated the same way as McNabb.
Remember the wig and the sunglasses game for Schmitty? That's akin to Donovan's smiles and joking around.
It took the Phillies quite a while to bounce back after #20 was gone. He was missed way more after he left and underappreciated when he was in town. The same will be said about #5.
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This thread reminds me why the rest of the country hates us.As a whole we are stupid. 
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That's a horrible analogy. Schmidt was the best at his position and admittedly handled things wrong. McNabb is average with a great D and coaches. Schmtty also wasn't a choker.
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You Eagles fans are hilarious. Look at all the posts going back to the beginning of this thread regarding McNabb and how he isn't this or that. Last week Mcnabb played great. Minnesota came to play and their defense put a ton of pressure on the offense and McNabb. he delivered many NON dump passes down field with very tight coverage and he fired into tight spots. He was tremendous. He also is hard to sack and can scramble. It is the same attitude of why Mike Schmidt was booed. You guys have one of the best QB's in the game and all you do is find things to ##### about; It is really sad.
I heard Andrews could return if they get past the Giants. Won't play against this week though. Not sure about Abiamiri.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
ORLY?McNabb is in the second tier of current NFL QBs at worst. Not exactly the best ever at his position, but worthy of mention.Schmidt had missteps with the media and was constantly under media scrutiny. Same for McNabb.Schmidt was in the postseason several times (3 NLCS) before breaking through to the World Series, where he admittedly performed well and was the MVP. Prior to that, though, he was questioned as his postseries numbers were bad (0 HRs in four NLCS including '80, 13 for 68 hitting (below .200)). Even with the win in '80, his total playoff numbers aren't special (.236 average, 4 HRs in 140 at-bats). So, if McNabb wins a Super Bowl as an Eagle before his career is over, he'll be 1-1 in the Super Bowl (assuming he wins his next appearance) with several missed opportunities and plenty of Pro Bowls. The only difference would be that Schmidt won his first World Series.I'll give you that Schmidt as a 3rd baseman and as a player > McNabb as a QB, but both were regarded as the faces of their franchises. Were the appreciated for their accomplishments as much as they should have been? I think not - and the problem is not their performance but their demeanor. McNabb Smiles all the time, Schmidt was a quiet guy who led by example. Neither was a "grinder" who the common Philly guy could relate to, like Dawkins or Larry Bowa or Pete Rose.
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What Philly hates are athletes who open their mouths too much...
Barkley - had the love, lost the love
Schmidt - had it and lost it
Owens - had it and lost it
Cunningham - had it and lost it
McNabb - had it and is losing it, but with a Super Bowl win all is forgotten
Lindros - had it and lost it because of his parents who loved to talk
Barkley - had the love, lost the love
Schmidt - had it and lost it
Owens - had it and lost it
Cunningham - had it and lost it
McNabb - had it and is losing it, but with a Super Bowl win all is forgotten
Lindros - had it and lost it because of his parents who loved to talk
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I didn't realize someone else had made a reference to Schmidt before I did so I apologize for being repetitive. That being said, this entire notion about they way so and so should act is a bit absurd. Look at Eli Manning; how many people talked about how he wasn't a leader because he wasn't a screamer and always had that look like he always has...The thing is that the same demeanor that allows Eli to look similarly no matter what is going on, allows Eli to have a very short memory and can come back a huge hit and not hear footsteps and no matter how rough the first 55 minutes of the game were to deliver late. It works both ways and if Mcnabb laughs, well so what? As long as you think he gives it his all and he does care, that is all that should matter.Mike Schmidt was the best 3rd baseman of all time; ARod may take that over if he is considered a 3rd baseman now, but the expectations of the Philly fans is unrealistic.Now, when the Eagles lose this week it will be because McNabb isn't a winner or doesn't have that leadership Eli does or whatever...but remember, football is a team sport and while the QB is the most important SINGLE position on the field, it only represents about 12-15% of the games outcome (see sig)Jeff Pasquino said:
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Add AI to the list. Practice?
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