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***Official*** FFA iDating Thread (6 Viewers)

Just an update...

So the petite Filipina thing did *not* happen after all. She backed out after the weather turned crappy with snow, et al and that was fine. I tried to re-connect with her but she was a little cool. Turns out she met this other guy a week before and didn't want to be seeing us both. I tell her that is fine, we're friends and nothing has changed between us. A week later she calls me and says that the new guy isn't working out for her after all. I don't ask about getting together with her or presume anything. She and I exchange a few texts over Xmas that are friendly while I'm out of town. She calls me this Friday night and asks me out. I have already made plans for the weekend but we could hang out another time.

I think the moment has kind of passed between me and this woman. I'm thinking that she's kind of a whackjob. I could probably get something going with her, if I put any effort into it, but I'm not sure it's worth it. I guess if things go south with the woman I have been steadily seeing then I've got something in my backpocket. Things are good between us even if I have a few concerns long term.
Sounds like you're her safety net / backup plan. Unless you don't care (and that's all she is to you), don't be that guy.

 
Just an update...

So the petite Filipina thing did *not* happen after all. She backed out after the weather turned crappy with snow, et al and that was fine. I tried to re-connect with her but she was a little cool. Turns out she met this other guy a week before and didn't want to be seeing us both. I tell her that is fine, we're friends and nothing has changed between us. A week later she calls me and says that the new guy isn't working out for her after all. I don't ask about getting together with her or presume anything. She and I exchange a few texts over Xmas that are friendly while I'm out of town. She calls me this Friday night and asks me out. I have already made plans for the weekend but we could hang out another time.

I think the moment has kind of passed between me and this woman. I'm thinking that she's kind of a whackjob. I could probably get something going with her, if I put any effort into it, but I'm not sure it's worth it. I guess if things go south with the woman I have been steadily seeing then I've got something in my backpocket. Things are good between us even if I have a few concerns long term.
Sounds like you're her safety net / backup plan. Unless you don't care (and that's all she is to you), don't be that guy.
I'm reasonably content with the woman I have been seeing. That's why I never really felt the urge to pursue things with the Filipina. She has proven to be interesting but with too many conditions. She hasn't distinuished herself enough for me change what I'm doing now.

 
Dipping my toe back in the dating world. Starting seeing a publicist who I met during 6-7 years ago but lost track of; she sent me a DM on twitter and we had drinks. Just hanging out, no pressure, no commitment. I hooked her up with Knicks & she offered me passes to the Winter Classic (e.g., stuff we both got comped) - had to decline as I wasn't headed back to the D next week. Asianed, drinks bourbon, likes to target shoot, fun to hang with - if the timing were different, I might have fallen hard, but she's super busy with her own business, feels like a side thing (even though she does text/call a LOT).

Meanwhile I still want to play the field, so I'm checking out howaboutwe.com. Have a few teed up but I'm still at that "holy #### I've totally forgotten how to be a closer" stage after not dating for like 7+ years. Anyway, not much to report here, but this exchange with a princess cracked me up:

her: How about we… meet at XXXX and climb the walls.

me: I'm intrigued.

Hi. Are you a climber??

No, but I've been meaning to try it.

Well, then we should go. I haven't been climbing for a while and am hoping to get back into it in the new year.

Cool. Full disclosure, XXXX is my health club. Want to meetup before we go climbing?

Meeting on 'neutral ground' sounds fair. Do you have a place in mind? I was recently at the Jane Hotel bar and it was lovely. Super cozy. [ETA: and super pretentious, $400 bottle service, racist & rude bouncers, full of scenesters/hipsters - what's not to like?] But, perhaps a place in midtown would be a better choice?

The Todd English Food Court at The Plaza is sort of unique. Have you been there? [ETA: I have been to TE Food Hall. It's probably the worst service I've ever seen in NYC, but maybe that was just an off day/bad wait staff. But the prices are...well, not ridiculous by NYC standards, but not exactly casual first date stuff. I don't mind paying $30-40 for a salad or far more for well executed sushi, but that's the kind of overpriced place you book for a life event like a birthday or....awwww #### it just forget it.]

I think the move here is no response? Or is that too passive. I just don't see the point in responding and coming off judgemental, but I give her props for being audacious. If you're gonna be a gold digger, lay that #### out right up front. No sense being deceitful about what you are.

I'm a little to bitter to be dating, right?

:lol:
I'm not quite following but don't see the harm in just suggesting somewhere you like. Basically ignoring everything she said there. :shrug:

"Let's meet (insert casual bar here) at 7 on Thursday". Don't make it more difficult than it needs to be.
I think I'm just not that into her, as I feel like I have other/better prospects in the pipeline.

If I wanted to pursue her my style would be to do exactly this (& icon's suggestion): "Thanks, how about we meet here". But sometimes when things don't flow you just go in a different direction. There are so many possibilities as a single person living in Manhattan, its really just not worth any extra effort if something doesn't work out in the beginning stages. It's already been three days on that one, and if I was on the other end, I'd consider a non-response to still be an answer.

Onward and upward.

 
I will be making a comeback to this thread shortly...
It's a Christmas miracle! :popcorn:
I will be creating an Alias for purposes of updating this thread. My wife tracked my account here the last time she wanted to go sleep with other people. So, after this time of letting me know before Christmas, I'm thinking we are done for sure. I'm not taking her back ever. Anyway, I will share my new handle with many of you.

I'm about 10 pounds heavier with a little more Grey then I was on Page 5 going forward, but it really doesn't matter. The fun and hijinx will start second week in January. Happy hunting fella's.

 
I will be making a comeback to this thread shortly...
It's a Christmas miracle! :popcorn:
I will be creating an Alias for purposes of updating this thread. My wife tracked my account here the last time she wanted to go sleep with other people. So, after this time of letting me know before Christmas, I'm thinking we are done for sure. I'm not taking her back ever. Anyway, I will share my new handle with many of you.

I'm about 10 pounds heavier with a little more Grey then I was on Page 5 going forward, but it really doesn't matter. The fun and hijinx will start second week in January. Happy hunting fella's.
Atta boy. Get back on that horse. :thumbup:

 
We need to get this thread going again for 2014.

I'm in a bit of a dry spell. I have not met up with anyone I would consider hot since November. I have recently met up with a few girls who were about 30+ lbs more than their photos. I think if you are a decent enough looking dude and just wanted to sleep with plump chicks every night of the week, you could easily do it on match.

Anyway, thinking of calling the girl I went out with once in November. I did not get a great vibe from her while closing out the date so I never called her after that. But things are pretty slim right now so it might be worth touching base.

 
We need to get this thread going again for 2014.

I'm in a bit of a dry spell. I have not met up with anyone I would consider hot since November. I have recently met up with a few girls who were about 30+ lbs more than their photos. I think if you are a decent enough looking dude and just wanted to sleep with plump chicks every night of the week, you could easily do it on match.

Anyway, thinking of calling the girl I went out with once in November. I did not get a great vibe from her while closing out the date so I never called her after that. But things are pretty slim right now so it might be worth touching base.
Sounds like you should look into sleeping with a prostitute. You need to get that look off your face. Women can see it a mile away.

 
Ok I'll do this. I can't promise I will stick with it. But I pretty much have no shame.

I think I can at the very least turn a date into an unmitigated disaster. I think I've proven that.

 
I will be making a comeback to this thread shortly...
It's a Christmas miracle! :popcorn:
I will be creating an Alias for purposes of updating this thread. My wife tracked my account here the last time she wanted to go sleep with other people. So, after this time of letting me know before Christmas, I'm thinking we are done for sure. I'm not taking her back ever. Anyway, I will share my new handle with many of you.

I'm about 10 pounds heavier with a little more Grey then I was on Page 5 going forward, but it really doesn't matter. The fun and hijinx will start second week in January. Happy hunting fella's.
Atta boy. Get back on that horse. :thumbup:
No horses, but maybe the odd "dog" if need be.

 
UPDATE: Took the publicist to the Knicks-Pistons game Tuesday. Met for drinks and appetizers beforehand at Lugo (1 Penn Plaza). Good times, but not sure there's chemistry there. Somehow I think I ended up in the friend zone. But by happy coincidence we have a large client who is getting ready to close on a round of funding, and she's a "futurist' aka trend tracker, and our client has an innovative solution. Whatever.

Meanwhile I met a Japanese banker who is a *ahem* 23 year old spinner. Yeah, I know, beyond stupid for a 51 y.o., but WTF do I care? Just having fun right now. Met her online through "How About We" when she responded to a date I posted. Took her to a concert at Highline Ballroom last night, and we got on great. She was very playful and flirty, and let me know she lives in a new hi-rise in West Chelsea about 10 minutes from the venue. In between sets she asked "Do you want to come over for dumpling after the show?" I'm clueless - I've been out of dating so long I'm never sure what to do - but I'm hoping this is like getting asked up for coffee at midnight. We get to her place later, and as we're walking through the door the conversation goes like this:

"You want dumpling?"

"Hmmm...maybe (pulling toward me to whisper in her ear)...but I know I want you."

We kiss for awhile, then she stops, smiles, and says:

"Sekkusu shiyou? Asobi sekkusu?"

I know what the first phrase is but I'm confused by the latter.

"This means?"

"Play...do you want to #### for fun."

"THAT'S IT!"

:pickle: :headbang: :excited:

zzziiiiiiiiippppppppp...LBD drops to the floor. HFS. OK, that's not even possible...because of...ya know, gravity. Wow. They were almost surely fake - I didn't really think the ratio of tiny waist to way-more-than-a-mouthful was even possible - and I didn't care. Absolutely fantastic silky smooth skin. I seriously don't know if I've ever been with a more beautiful woman. No idea how the Offeedee scale works, but the BL scale is:

  • 1-4 umm yeah no thanks
  • 5-7 not bad I'd do that and hell she might even do me
  • 8-10 highly unlikely AYFKM just go home and jerk off you idiot
She was definitely in the latter group, and we had an amazing time. Very nice skill set, no limits, 'twas very fun.

Anyway, will just go with the flow. I feel like Constanza in the meatpacking district club; it could all disappear tomorrow and I'll be wondering if it was real or really happen or I just dreamed it. But for one GD night, I was the master of the my iDating universe.

 
UPDATE: Took the publicist to the Knicks-Pistons game Tuesday. Met for drinks and appetizers beforehand at Lugo (1 Penn Plaza). Good times, but not sure there's chemistry there. Somehow I think I ended up in the friend zone. But by happy coincidence we have a large client who is getting ready to close on a round of funding, and she's a "futurist' aka trend tracker, and our client has an innovative solution. Whatever.

Meanwhile I met a Japanese banker who is a *ahem* 23 year old spinner. Yeah, I know, beyond stupid for a 51 y.o., but WTF do I care? Just having fun right now. Met her online through "How About We" when she responded to a date I posted. Took her to a concert at Highline Ballroom last night, and we got on great. She was very playful and flirty, and let me know she lives in a new hi-rise in West Chelsea about 10 minutes from the venue. In between sets she asked "Do you want to come over for dumpling after the show?" I'm clueless - I've been out of dating so long I'm never sure what to do - but I'm hoping this is like getting asked up for coffee at midnight. We get to her place later, and as we're walking through the door the conversation goes like this:

"You want dumpling?"

"Hmmm...maybe (pulling toward me to whisper in her ear)...but I know I want you."

We kiss for awhile, then she stops, smiles, and says:

"Sekkusu shiyou? Asobi sekkusu?"

I know what the first phrase is but I'm confused by the latter.

"This means?"

"Play...do you want to #### for fun."

"THAT'S IT!"

:pickle: :headbang: :excited:

zzziiiiiiiiippppppppp...LBD drops to the floor. HFS. OK, that's not even possible...because of...ya know, gravity. Wow. They were almost surely fake - I didn't really think the ratio of tiny waist to way-more-than-a-mouthful was even possible - and I didn't care. Absolutely fantastic silky smooth skin. I seriously don't know if I've ever been with a more beautiful woman. No idea how the Offeedee scale works, but the BL scale is:

  • 1-4 umm yeah no thanks
  • 5-7 not bad I'd do that and hell she might even do me
  • 8-10 highly unlikely AYFKM just go home and jerk off you idiot
She was definitely in the latter group, and we had an amazing time. Very nice skill set, no limits, 'twas very fun.

Anyway, will just go with the flow. I feel like Constanza in the meatpacking district club; it could all disappear tomorrow and I'll be wondering if it was real or really happen or I just dreamed it. But for one GD night, I was the master of the my iDating universe.
Atta boy Bobby! Nice work. Only comment is that I think you may be doing too much on date #1....going to games and concerts is more date #4 type material. Just meet for simple drinks on first meeting....lowered stress and expectations from all parties. But, regardless, keep on enjoying life GB.

 
Update: I have no dates scheduled for the weekend. I'm trying to decide weather or not to hop on a plane to Vegas tomorrow morning and just watch / gamble on NFL football all weekend. tough call.

 
Atta boy Bobby! Nice work. Only comment is that I think you may be doing too much on date #1....going to games and concerts is more date #4 type material. Just meet for simple drinks on first meeting....lowered stress and expectations from all parties. But, regardless, keep on enjoying life GB.
Luckily, she repaid him in kind with a date #4 performance back at her place

 
UPDATE: Took the publicist to the Knicks-Pistons game Tuesday. Met for drinks and appetizers beforehand at Lugo (1 Penn Plaza). Good times, but not sure there's chemistry there. Somehow I think I ended up in the friend zone. But by happy coincidence we have a large client who is getting ready to close on a round of funding, and she's a "futurist' aka trend tracker, and our client has an innovative solution. Whatever.

Meanwhile I met a Japanese banker who is a *ahem* 23 year old spinner. Yeah, I know, beyond stupid for a 51 y.o., but WTF do I care? Just having fun right now. Met her online through "How About We" when she responded to a date I posted. Took her to a concert at Highline Ballroom last night, and we got on great. She was very playful and flirty, and let me know she lives in a new hi-rise in West Chelsea about 10 minutes from the venue. In between sets she asked "Do you want to come over for dumpling after the show?" I'm clueless - I've been out of dating so long I'm never sure what to do - but I'm hoping this is like getting asked up for coffee at midnight. We get to her place later, and as we're walking through the door the conversation goes like this:

"You want dumpling?"

"Hmmm...maybe (pulling toward me to whisper in her ear)...but I know I want you."

We kiss for awhile, then she stops, smiles, and says:

"Sekkusu shiyou? Asobi sekkusu?"

I know what the first phrase is but I'm confused by the latter.

"This means?"

"Play...do you want to #### for fun."

"THAT'S IT!"

:pickle: :headbang: :excited:

zzziiiiiiiiippppppppp...LBD drops to the floor. HFS. OK, that's not even possible...because of...ya know, gravity. Wow. They were almost surely fake - I didn't really think the ratio of tiny waist to way-more-than-a-mouthful was even possible - and I didn't care. Absolutely fantastic silky smooth skin. I seriously don't know if I've ever been with a more beautiful woman. No idea how the Offeedee scale works, but the BL scale is:

  • 1-4 umm yeah no thanks
  • 5-7 not bad I'd do that and hell she might even do me
  • 8-10 highly unlikely AYFKM just go home and jerk off you idiot
She was definitely in the latter group, and we had an amazing time. Very nice skill set, no limits, 'twas very fun.

Anyway, will just go with the flow. I feel like Constanza in the meatpacking district club; it could all disappear tomorrow and I'll be wondering if it was real or really happen or I just dreamed it. But for one GD night, I was the master of the my iDating universe.
Atta boy Bobby! Nice work. Only comment is that I think you may be doing too much on date #1....going to games and concerts is more date #4 type material. Just meet for simple drinks on first meeting....lowered stress and expectations from all parties. But, regardless, keep on enjoying life GB.
Yeah, the publicist and I did meet for drinks last month (and actually first met 6-7 years ago). The spinner has been texting me or calling almost every day for like 4 weeks, and we did meet up at Pie Face one day because we work near each other. So I do try to make the first meetup something light.

But I appreciate the advice. I am totally without a clue. I alternate between a) worrying about EVERYTHING I do or say or write, to b) I don't ####### care one bit - I am what I am, take it or leave it, and if its the latter I'll just move on to the next one. I'm clearly not anywhere close to wanting to be in a relationship, and that's cool. Manhattan/Brooklyn is full of chicks who are down for anything.

Beside where my head is at regarding being in a relationship, I'm at a point/time in my life where I just can't even envision it right now. Divorced, 15 year old from my first marriage, 5 year old from the relationship I just exited, and in between a really painful end to a six year relationship. I'm pretty chill about most things but I know I have baggage/scars from the past. Working on it, but not there yet.

 
Atta boy Bobby! Nice work. Only comment is that I think you may be doing too much on date #1....going to games and concerts is more date #4 type material. Just meet for simple drinks on first meeting....lowered stress and expectations from all parties. But, regardless, keep on enjoying life GB.
Luckily, she repaid him in kind with a date #4 performance back at her place
See, there's a method here...

:lol:

 
So I shall contribute to this thread. Meet up with a girl from Tinder Sunday night. Went to her place to watch a movie, which led to some :pickle: that night and again in the morning before I went to work. Repeated the same tuesday night as well except there was some :football: and :pickle: . Then some :pickle: in the morning before I left for work. Saw her again last night for some more :football: and :pickle: . Looks like I may be able to contriubute to this thread and the Dot Count Thread as well this year.

 
I've seen BL's posts about the "How About We" site. I hadn't heard of this before... is this more of a NY-centric dating site?

 
I've seen BL's posts about the "How About We" site. I hadn't heard of this before... is this more of a NY-centric dating site?
It's definitely national, but I'm interested to hear if others have tried it. I just started using it and the inbox got lit up - not with messages, but they click "I'm intrigued" by a date you've posted. Then I hit them with a quick follow up. Or I hit the "I'm intrigued" and they message me.

IME the quicker you can get off messaging and get to text/call the better. I'm not looking for pen pals.

Also using Tinder and match.com, but this one seems to be working best for just finding casual dates & activities.

I also have a pof account but have rarely used it. Found a side piece through that last year (cute Filipina chick from NJ who literally just wants to have a quickie once in awhile - zero investment).

 
I've seen BL's posts about the "How About We" site. I hadn't heard of this before... is this more of a NY-centric dating site?
It's definitely national, but I'm interested to hear if others have tried it. I just started using it and the inbox got lit up - not with messages, but they click "I'm intrigued" by a date you've posted. Then I hit them with a quick follow up. Or I hit the "I'm intrigued" and they message me.

IME the quicker you can get off messaging and get to text/call the better. I'm not looking for pen pals.

Also using Tinder and match.com, but this one seems to be working best for just finding casual dates & activities.

I also have a pof account but have rarely used it. Found a side piece through that last year (cute Filipina chick from NJ who literally just wants to have a quickie once in awhile - zero investment).
i've used "Why Don't We" to plan dates with a girl i am seeing. pretty easy to use and helpful to plan dates (usually just dinner ideas) for you.
 
I've seen BL's posts about the "How About We" site. I hadn't heard of this before... is this more of a NY-centric dating site?
It's definitely national, but I'm interested to hear if others have tried it. I just started using it and the inbox got lit up - not with messages, but they click "I'm intrigued" by a date you've posted. Then I hit them with a quick follow up. Or I hit the "I'm intrigued" and they message me.

IME the quicker you can get off messaging and get to text/call the better. I'm not looking for pen pals.

Also using Tinder and match.com, but this one seems to be working best for just finding casual dates & activities.

I also have a pof account but have rarely used it. Found a side piece through that last year (cute Filipina chick from NJ who literally just wants to have a quickie once in awhile - zero investment).
Interesting. What's the quality of the tail on HAW versus the other sites?

 
So me and my buddy decided to start trolling on POF. Both of us logged in on our accounts and would find profiles where girls put stupid things. For instance one had "One tough cookie" as her quote. So my buddy sent "they call me cookie monster" and simultaneously I sent "they call me cookie monster too". Actually got a lot of responses back.

 
So me and my buddy decided to start trolling on POF. Both of us logged in on our accounts and would find profiles where girls put stupid things. For instance one had "One tough cookie" as her quote. So my buddy sent "they call me cookie monster" and simultaneously I sent "they call me cookie monster too". Actually got a lot of responses back.
Were any of these chicks hot? Or were they all fatties?

 
So me and my buddy decided to start trolling on POF. Both of us logged in on our accounts and would find profiles where girls put stupid things. For instance one had "One tough cookie" as her quote. So my buddy sent "they call me cookie monster" and simultaneously I sent "they call me cookie monster too". Actually got a lot of responses back.
Were any of these chicks hot? Or were they all fatties?
Pretty even mix of hot and not. Id say we trolled about 12 (7 hot, 5 not- rough estimate). Got 8 responses back we focused on the ones online at that moment when doing our searches. One looked like Abby from NCIS (classified as not hot) and I invited her over that night and she was like what about dinner, I said best I could do was order pizza she said anytime next week (probably wont pursue but while buzzing at the time seemed like the right play). Anyhow there is one hot chick from the trolling I am talking to who wants to meet so I anticipate a date with her next week.

 
I just saw this thread and thought it might be fun to follow it and share my experiences.

I'm in my late 30's

I live in a smaller city in a Northern State.

Been an active and successful on line dater.

Match.com for me

-Currently dating 1 casually who is 49. Let's call her Puma. She is super nice, but really she is just "something to do" for a while.

-Talking to a 44yo store owner who just wants to meet for sex. Haven't gone there yet. Schedules not matching up.

-Late 30s mail carrier (Call her Mailgirl) with a stupid hot body and a meh face. Met once, went OK with a mild make out session.

We have talked about getting together again in the future. You should see the pics she sent to me. Oh my.

-Executive girl...just started to text with. Super busy girl fresh out of relationship and wants to just have fun. Perfect for me. Super cute and fit. Not sure I can pull this one off although she wrote me.

-"Nice girl" again just chatting with and not really sure about.

Who ever started this thread, god bless them.

 
I just saw this thread and thought it might be fun to follow it and share my experiences.

I'm in my late 30's

I live in a smaller city in a Northern State.

Been an active and successful on line dater.

Match.com for me

-Currently dating 1 casually who is 49. Let's call her Puma. She is super nice, but really she is just "something to do" for a while.

-Talking to a 44yo store owner who just wants to meet for sex. Haven't gone there yet. Schedules not matching up.

-Late 30s mail carrier (Call her Mailgirl) with a stupid hot body and a meh face. Met once, went OK with a mild make out session.

We have talked about getting together again in the future. You should see the pics she sent to me. Oh my.

-Executive girl...just started to text with. Super busy girl fresh out of relationship and wants to just have fun. Perfect for me. Super cute and fit. Not sure I can pull this one off although she wrote me.

-"Nice girl" again just chatting with and not really sure about.

Who ever started this thread, god bless them.
Nothing stopping you from posting them for us...

 
I'm not the most techy fellow. How do you get from an i.Phone to the Intarwebz.

 
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Filipina *might* be coming over tonight for a sleepover and cuddle. Just friends though, naturally.
this did not happen. again. she runs too hot-and-cold for my taste. i'll hang out with her, sure, but i'm not lifting a finger more. unless she takes it upon herself to get naked for my benefit, i'm not interested. it's a shame though as i know that she is likely a lot of fun in the sack.

 
saintfool said:
Filipina *might* be coming over tonight for a sleepover and cuddle. Just friends though, naturally.
this did not happen. again. she runs too hot-and-cold for my taste. i'll hang out with her, sure, but i'm not lifting a finger more. unless she takes it upon herself to get naked for my benefit, i'm not interested. it's a shame though as i know that she is likely a lot of fun in the sack.
She's obviously playing games and trying to gain control. This is where you give her the ole message to instantly take it back..."You seem like a cool girl, but I've got a lot going on in my life and really don't have time for game playing. When you want to commit to hanging out, get in touch. Hope you had a good day."

 
beavers said:
she turns and kisses me. Nice. She didn't come home with me as she said she would rip my clothes off. I get it and personally, I didn't want to have sex either.
Girls are different from boys

 
Had a good date last night. I guess I have a tough time gauging how interested they are in a second meeting. Unless, she comes out and says, "We should do this again some time", I'm pretty much clueless.

 
Had a good date last night. I guess I have a tough time gauging how interested they are in a second meeting. Unless, she comes out and says, "We should do this again some time", I'm pretty much clueless.
I always gauged it by the intensity of the kiss. If she was really into it and/or there was more than a kiss, then I assume she's down for another date and probably the sechs next time. If she was hesitant or there was no kiss at all, I'd probably not bother with another date unless she was really hot.
 
Had a good date last night. I guess I have a tough time gauging how interested they are in a second meeting. Unless, she comes out and says, "We should do this again some time", I'm pretty much clueless.
:shrug: Just ask her out again. As the date is winding down, say "I heard X is going on Saturday night. You wanna tag along?" If she totally hates you and you didn't pick up on it, what does it matter? She'll just say "No" and you'll know.

 
Had a good date last night. I guess I have a tough time gauging how interested they are in a second meeting. Unless, she comes out and says, "We should do this again some time", I'm pretty much clueless.
No offending intended at all here GB, but I'm honestly perplexed by this...how do you not know? For me it's all about open body language, eye contact and touching (laughter is an extra big bonus). If those things are present in your first date than it's a success and you can have your way with them. If they are not than it wasn't a connection, and best to just move on.

 
Just had a flashback to a date I had in my mid 20's with a girl from work that I had a crush on forever. I'd gone to lunch with her a million times but it was always with another female friend. I finally got up the courage to ask her out, and took her out to dinner on a Saturday night. In retrospect this was a terrible first date choice but I was clueless back then. Conversation was okay, but I sort of caught the vibe that she wanted to keep it in the friend zone. There were probably a dozen cues that I missed -- either positive/kiss me or negative/get away from me. Whatever the cues were, I think my cluelessness sealed my fate even if she was initially receptive. I forget where we went after dinner, but at some point she asked me to drive her home. During the drive I kicked around various scenarios in my head, and how to end the date. Still had the vibe that she wasn't into me, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to miss out on the opportunity if there was even a 1% chance. So, as I pulled into the driveway, I just leaned over and kissed her on the mouth, promptly slipping her the tongue as well. Her reaction was a horrified gasp, and she got out of the car, slammed the door and ran inside. It was pretty awkward around the office after that.

 
Just had a flashback to a date I had in my mid 20's with a girl from work that I had a crush on forever. I'd gone to lunch with her a million times but it was always with another female friend. I finally got up the courage to ask her out, and took her out to dinner on a Saturday night. In retrospect this was a terrible first date choice but I was clueless back then. Conversation was okay, but I sort of caught the vibe that she wanted to keep it in the friend zone. There were probably a dozen cues that I missed -- either positive/kiss me or negative/get away from me. Whatever the cues were, I think my cluelessness sealed my fate even if she was initially receptive. I forget where we went after dinner, but at some point she asked me to drive her home. During the drive I kicked around various scenarios in my head, and how to end the date. Still had the vibe that she wasn't into me, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to miss out on the opportunity if there was even a 1% chance. So, as I pulled into the driveway, I just leaned over and kissed her on the mouth, promptly slipping her the tongue as well. Her reaction was a horrified gasp, and she got out of the car, slammed the door and ran inside. It was pretty awkward around the office after that.
:smooth:

 
Just had a flashback to a date I had in my mid 20's with a girl from work that I had a crush on forever. I'd gone to lunch with her a million times but it was always with another female friend. I finally got up the courage to ask her out, and took her out to dinner on a Saturday night. In retrospect this was a terrible first date choice but I was clueless back then. Conversation was okay, but I sort of caught the vibe that she wanted to keep it in the friend zone. There were probably a dozen cues that I missed -- either positive/kiss me or negative/get away from me. Whatever the cues were, I think my cluelessness sealed my fate even if she was initially receptive. I forget where we went after dinner, but at some point she asked me to drive her home. During the drive I kicked around various scenarios in my head, and how to end the date. Still had the vibe that she wasn't into me, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to miss out on the opportunity if there was even a 1% chance. So, as I pulled into the driveway, I just leaned over and kissed her on the mouth, promptly slipping her the tongue as well. Her reaction was a horrified gasp, and she got out of the car, slammed the door and ran inside. It was pretty awkward around the office after that.
"Like two bags of sand"

 
Had a good date last night. I guess I have a tough time gauging how interested they are in a second meeting. Unless, she comes out and says, "We should do this again some time", I'm pretty much clueless.
No offending intended at all here GB, but I'm honestly perplexed by this...how do you not know? For me it's all about open body language, eye contact and touching (laughter is an extra big bonus). If those things are present in your first date than it's a success and you can have your way with them. If they are not than it wasn't a connection, and best to just move on.
I don't get offended. Feel free to speak as openly as you need to.

My assumption is some girls are shyer than others. Some are not as good as expressing their feelings and emotions. I've asked some friends who are girls the same question and they've suggested that it is possible not to know with some girls. I'm just looking for opinions. And for the most part, I agree with you that if I don't know then I have my answer already.

 
Just had a flashback to a date I had in my mid 20's with a girl from work that I had a crush on forever. I'd gone to lunch with her a million times but it was always with another female friend. I finally got up the courage to ask her out, and took her out to dinner on a Saturday night. In retrospect this was a terrible first date choice but I was clueless back then. Conversation was okay, but I sort of caught the vibe that she wanted to keep it in the friend zone. There were probably a dozen cues that I missed -- either positive/kiss me or negative/get away from me. Whatever the cues were, I think my cluelessness sealed my fate even if she was initially receptive. I forget where we went after dinner, but at some point she asked me to drive her home. During the drive I kicked around various scenarios in my head, and how to end the date. Still had the vibe that she wasn't into me, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to miss out on the opportunity if there was even a 1% chance. So, as I pulled into the driveway, I just leaned over and kissed her on the mouth, promptly slipping her the tongue as well. Her reaction was a horrified gasp, and she got out of the car, slammed the door and ran inside. It was pretty awkward around the office after that.
:lmao:

 
Just had a flashback to a date I had in my mid 20's with a girl from work that I had a crush on forever. I'd gone to lunch with her a million times but it was always with another female friend. I finally got up the courage to ask her out, and took her out to dinner on a Saturday night. In retrospect this was a terrible first date choice but I was clueless back then. Conversation was okay, but I sort of caught the vibe that she wanted to keep it in the friend zone. There were probably a dozen cues that I missed -- either positive/kiss me or negative/get away from me. Whatever the cues were, I think my cluelessness sealed my fate even if she was initially receptive. I forget where we went after dinner, but at some point she asked me to drive her home. During the drive I kicked around various scenarios in my head, and how to end the date. Still had the vibe that she wasn't into me, but wasn't sure, and didn't want to miss out on the opportunity if there was even a 1% chance. So, as I pulled into the driveway, I just leaned over and kissed her on the mouth, promptly slipping her the tongue as well. Her reaction was a horrified gasp, and she got out of the car, slammed the door and ran inside. It was pretty awkward around the office after that.
"so that means I'm *not* invited in for a nightcap?"

 
Had a friend (girl) take a look at my profile yesterday. She recommended a few changes... seems to be working so far. Getting more messages / winks from better looking and younger females than before.

Going to send a message to the girl I went out with on Tuesday later today. I think there was something there, but not 100% sure. Will report back. She was hot and fun. And I have nothing to lose.

 
Had a friend (girl) take a look at my profile yesterday. She recommended a few changes... seems to be working so far. Getting more messages / winks from better looking and younger females than before.

Going to send a message to the girl I went out with on Tuesday later today. I think there was something there, but not 100% sure. Will report back. She was hot and fun. And I have nothing to lose.
Then don't "ask" if she wants to go out again.....just more or less tell her it's happening.

Had a good time with you last weekend. I've been wanting to check this new place (name here) out...let's meet up there Thursday night.

 

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