***OFFICIAL*** Guitar Guys Thread -- all axes, all the time (3 Viewers)

[Chaos Commish]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

 

[Otis]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

I figured it was an SG -- congrats, awesome guitars.

 

[bigbottom]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

Sweet, nice deal. HNGD!

 

[bigbottom]

eta: probably nothing your overpriced name brand, big dollar, acoustic coveting, old before your time, lunch skipping self would care for.

Oats is a big SG fan.

 

[Chaos Commish]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

I figured it was an SG -- congrats, awesome guitars.

Thanks. I thought the shape of the case would give it away. We're both in love with it, and she's a girl, who just graduated middle school, with a music award, while having a birthday. I'm pretty sure it's her SG and my Strat clone but that discussion hasn't gone beyond her asking to take it to her next lesson.

In the SG excitement, I almost forgot what I came here to post about. I have a 20x8' room attached to the back of my garage with a door leading to the backyard. Since my mom moved in, it has been storage stuffed with her stuff. Well, mice got in there and did some verminy damage, poop everywhere stuff so I emptied it sterilized everything, moved her stuff to a real storage facility (took apart the old Mahogany dresser) etc. My musician daughter said, wouldn't it be cool if we fixed this up for my keyboards and had a bunch of guitars hanging on the walls...

Well, I need things to do, so with her promising to take both her piano and guitar lessons very seriously all summer, I started prepping and priming.

The room.

Look a gd mouse hole.

Ideas for the space?

 

[Otis]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

I figured it was an SG -- congrats, awesome guitars.

Thanks. I thought the shape of the case would give it away. We're both in love with it, and she's a girl, who just graduated middle school, with a music award, while having a birthday. I'm pretty sure it's her SG and my Strat clone but that discussion hasn't gone beyond her asking to take it to her next lesson.

In the SG excitement, I almost forgot what I came here to post about. I have a 20x8' room attached to the back of my garage with a door leading to the backyard. Since my mom moved in, it has been storage stuffed with her stuff. Well, mice got in there and did some verminy damage, poop everywhere stuff so I emptied it sterilized everything, moved her stuff to a real storage facility (took apart the old Mahogany dresser) etc. My musician daughter said, wouldn't it be cool if we fixed this up for my keyboards and had a bunch of guitars hanging on the walls...

Well, I need things to do, so with her promising to take both her piano and guitar lessons very seriously all summer, I started prepping and priming.

The room.

Look a gd mouse hole.

Ideas for the space?

Totally awesome. I am dying for a guitar room in my house. One day.

Lots of wood and/or soundproofing. Carpet it. Soundproof ceiling tiles. Guitar hangers on the wall with some museum-like lighting beaming down on them beauties.

 

[bigbottom]

If you can imagine drums in there someday, and you really want to soundproof it well, you'll need to build a room inside a room. That will make things pretty tight with only an 8' width but it could definitely work. How close are your neighbors?

I'd also consider adding additional security if it's not connected to the house and you're going to start storing a bunch of musical equipment in there.

p.s. Cover the window to keep prying eyes away and to prevent direct sunlight from shining on the guitars everyday.

 

[Apple Jack]

F the guitar room. Take that energy and instead have a rehearsal space where you drink whiskey and smoke weed with friends and jam on Cheap Trick tunes. Again, F a "guitar room."

 

[bigbottom]

Thanks. I thought the shape of the case would give it away. We're both in love with it, and she's a girl, who just graduated middle school, with a music award, while having a birthday. I'm pretty sure it's her SG and my Strat clone but that discussion hasn't gone beyond her asking to take it to her next lesson.

I imagine that the SG's neck is going to be pretty big for young girl's hand size. It will likely be more difficult to play than a properly set up Strat (no idea what the action is like on the Strat copy you have).

 

[bigbottom]

F the guitar room. Take that energy and instead have a rehearsal space where you drink whiskey and smoke weed with friends and jam on Cheap Trick tunes. Again, F a "guitar room."

That's sort of where I was going with the soundproofing for a drum set stuff, and probably along the lines of what he was thinking about since he's putting keyboards in there as well. But, with all due respect to my GB Otis, I did have to laugh at the museum lighting idea. It shouldn't be a gallery. Like you said, it should be a rehearsal space. But hopefully his daughter won't be drinking whiskey and smoking weed as a 9th grader.

 

[omally]

My son is in a band, and they practice in a storage unit. It's a perfect place for them, and stores all their equipment.

 

[Britney Spears]

My daughter isn't interested in the acoustic. She's taking lessons locally from the teacher who recommended electric. He also is not interested in the acoustic. I am doing lessons online using her cheapo Chinese strat clone and the acoustic, but what's been the most fun by far has been taking online lessons together with both guitars. Problem is we both want to use the Strat. So I saw an add for the Gibson locally, went and checked it out. He had a 4 year old receipt for $800, said he hadn't touched it in over a year, never really played it much, and wanted $500. In the conversation, I told him what we'd been doing. He said it would be cool to have an acoustic around, so we talked trade. $375 + the $140 Epiphone acoustic I mentioned a couple pages ago brought her home.

She is

A Gibson

SG

And she sounds fantastic compared to the strat clone.

Whoa, very nice!

 

[Britney Spears]

Thanks. I thought the shape of the case would give it away. We're both in love with it, and she's a girl, who just graduated middle school, with a music award, while having a birthday. I'm pretty sure it's her SG and my Strat clone but that discussion hasn't gone beyond her asking to take it to her next lesson.

I imagine that the SG's neck is going to be pretty big for young girl's hand size. It will likely be more difficult to play than a properly set up Strat (no idea what the action is like on the Strat copy you have).

This is also true for those with girly hands, such as myself.

 

[Chaos Commish]

F the guitar room. Take that energy and instead have a rehearsal space where you drink whiskey and smoke weed with friends and jam on Cheap Trick tunes. Again, F a "guitar room."

That's sort of where I was going with the soundproofing for a drum set stuff, and probably along the lines of what he was thinking about since he's putting keyboards in there as well. But, with all due respect to my GB Otis, I did have to laugh at the museum lighting idea. It shouldn't be a gallery. Like you said, it should be a rehearsal space. But hopefully his daughter won't be drinking whiskey and smoking weed as a 9th grader.

Yes, she mentioned drums a few times and I pretended not to hear it.

I can't imagine a drumset in that narrow room. Maybe digital or is that a bad idea? Her keyboard has drum sounds and several programmable beats she uses.

Progress on the room since my last post. Doors, jambs and baseboards are pulled. Sheetrock to cover the popcorn ceiling has been cut. Might hang it tomorrow. It's a two man job so I've ordered a nephew. We'll see if one arrives. Some people have jobs. We're on 2.5 acre parcels out here but sound travels. My nearest neighbors are 150' and 200' away. It's way better than a high density neighborhood, but still an issue. Reading about soundproofing has me believing the walls are pretty good but might use another layer of sheetrock (or two). I'll test it from the neighbor's place before finishing the walls. Doors and windows are the problem. Youtuber showed me how to make a removable soundproof plug for the window. Good idea. Fresh air and natural light when wanted. Soundproof and private when needed. I'll keep instruments away from direct sunlight. I also broke the window while clearing the place out in a disgusted mouse-infested huff. So a new double pane will go in. I have a plan for the doors, but no need for details here.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Placed a bid on the DBZ Flying V on eBay. Results Saturday afternoon.

It's mine! All mine, I tells ya!

(scroll down for pics)

 

[bigbottom]

Placed a bid on the DBZ Flying V on eBay. Results Saturday afternoon.

It's mine! All mine, I tells ya!

(scroll down for pics)

Very cool. Congrats!Too bad he didn't throw in that killer Orange rig.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Placed a bid on the DBZ Flying V on eBay. Results Saturday afternoon.

It's mine! All mine, I tells ya!

(scroll down for pics)

Very cool. Congrats!Too bad he didn't throw in that killer Orange rig.

Yeah, that amp looks sweet.

I have a feeling this seller isn't too pleased with the final price. The guitar lists for $500 to $700 most places.

 

[Otis]

I'm very close to splurging for this stunning walnut custom Taylor.

It's in their new Grand Orchestra ("GO") body size, which is the biggest they now offer -- it's almost jumbo size, but not quite. I love the unique walnut wood, and the reviews of the GO guitars have been really favorable. I considered getting the rosewood model, which is the 918e, but the reviews say that one is almost TOO bassy and borders on muddy. This one based on my discussions with the shop owner and what I know about the tighter woods like walnut should fit the bill for me perfectly.

Shop owner is great and he'll take it back if I hate it. My net cost sunk into the guitar isn't that price -- I'm getting it for less than it's listed, and net cost to me after money I got from selling some other gear etc. will be about $900.

Can't wait.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I'm very close to splurging for this stunning walnut custom Taylor.

It's in their new Grand Orchestra ("GO") body size, which is the biggest they now offer -- it's almost jumbo size, but not quite. I love the unique walnut wood, and the reviews of the GO guitars have been really favorable. I considered getting the rosewood model, which is the 918e, but the reviews say that one is almost TOO bassy and borders on muddy. This one based on my discussions with the shop owner and what I know about the tighter woods like walnut should fit the bill for me perfectly.

Shop owner is great and he'll take it back if I hate it. My net cost sunk into the guitar isn't that price -- I'm getting it for less than it's listed, and net cost to me after money I got from selling some other gear etc. will be about $900.

Can't wait.

Beautiful. I would love to hear how that axe sounds.

 

[bigbottom]

I'm very close to splurging for this stunning walnut custom Taylor.

It's in their new Grand Orchestra ("GO") body size, which is the biggest they now offer -- it's almost jumbo size, but not quite. I love the unique walnut wood, and the reviews of the GO guitars have been really favorable. I considered getting the rosewood model, which is the 918e, but the reviews say that one is almost TOO bassy and borders on muddy. This one based on my discussions with the shop owner and what I know about the tighter woods like walnut should fit the bill for me perfectly.

Shop owner is great and he'll take it back if I hate it. My net cost sunk into the guitar isn't that price -- I'm getting it for less than it's listed, and net cost to me after money I got from selling some other gear etc. will be about $900.

Can't wait.

Wow. Can't wait to hear what you think of it once it's in your hands.

That said, re: the bolded, it's killing me that you are not playing these things yourself and coming to your own conclusions. You live (work) in one of the best cities in the country in terms of having the opportunity to actually play many types of high end acoustics before you make a purchasing decision. It may be why you can so easily sell your guitars - you invest so little time in finding them.

But seriously, that's a beauty. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous.

 

[Reaper]

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee472/expertmech/guitar.jpg

This is finally a pic of the tele I got off ebay... I'll have to get more pics of the "Jam Room"...

I didn't go the Soundproofing route at all... I have Roland Electric drums, which BTW are a BLAST... And a Jamhub system where everything is thru the Headphones except of course the vocals which are heard thru the house.

 

[Otis]

I'm very close to splurging for this stunning walnut custom Taylor.

It's in their new Grand Orchestra ("GO") body size, which is the biggest they now offer -- it's almost jumbo size, but not quite. I love the unique walnut wood, and the reviews of the GO guitars have been really favorable. I considered getting the rosewood model, which is the 918e, but the reviews say that one is almost TOO bassy and borders on muddy. This one based on my discussions with the shop owner and what I know about the tighter woods like walnut should fit the bill for me perfectly.

Shop owner is great and he'll take it back if I hate it. My net cost sunk into the guitar isn't that price -- I'm getting it for less than it's listed, and net cost to me after money I got from selling some other gear etc. will be about $900.

Can't wait.

Wow. Can't wait to hear what you think of it once it's in your hands.

That said, re: the bolded, it's killing me that you are not playing these things yourself and coming to your own conclusions. You live (work) in one of the best cities in the country in terms of having the opportunity to actually play many types of high end acoustics before you make a purchasing decision. It may be why you can so easily sell your guitars - you invest so little time in finding them.

But seriously, that's a beauty. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jealous.

I hear you. It's more a time thing than anything else. I would love to have gone this weekend, but we were busy with family stuff all day Sat. and Sunday I hate to babysit our 2yo because my wife had to go to some goofy shower.

Have you ever tried guitar shopping with a 2yo? I considered it for a minute and then quickly came to my senses...

Besides, half these guitars I'm looking at are customs that you can't play in your local shop anyway. This walnut is a one-off. I haven't seen one anywhere else online. Quite possibly the only one of its kind at this point. Now, I could go to a local shop and pick my favorite there, sure. But I don't mind rolling the dice on something special -- if it doesn't work out, I'll eventually sell it or trade it for something different and take a little hit. When you buy over the 'net they won't all be hits. I bought an Epiphone, the Ibanez, and my Yamaha SA2200. I absolutely fell in love with the Yamaha and can't see myself selling it as long as I am playing electrics. The other two I ended up selling -- BOTH for more than I bought them.

In the end it's all good. I have a funny feeling I'm going to love this guitar. We'll see.

 

[Otis]

Why buy artwork when you can hang something like this on your wall.

Lordy.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Why buy artwork when you can hang something like this on your wall.

Lordy.

Wow!

My buddy is a luthier. Love his work and always wanted to own one of his axes.

 

[bigbottom]

Why buy artwork when you can hang something like this on your wall.

Lordy.

Wow!

My buddy is a luthier. Love his work and always wanted to own one of his axes.

Those are sweet. What does that Telemark run?edit: nm. Found the pricing link. $3500 for the base model. That's a lot of coin.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Well speaking of luthier buddies, I sold Jose Oribe a Barth Motorhome in the early 90s. Spent two days at his house/guitar shop going over every detail of his new RV with him. Can't really call him buddy, because I've never seen him again, but I have ogled his guitars since he went online. That picture of him is 20 years old or he hasn't changed a lick. Yeah, the model in the link starts at 19k, and back then he was delivering two or three a month (over 10k per instrument). No idea how he's doing now, but if I was up for spending the kind of money Otis is on an acoustic, I would be all over this. I should probably learn to play a little first. I am struggling to learn. I'd buy an Oribe not just because I got to know the guy, but also because something handmade old school by one brilliant artist like him is ten times more interesting to me than what Martin and Taylor do.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Why buy artwork when you can hang something like this on your wall.

Lordy.

Wow!

My buddy is a luthier. Love his work and always wanted to own one of his axes.

Those are sweet. What does that Telemark run?edit: nm. Found the pricing link. $3500 for the base model. That's a lot of coin.

There supposed to be top notch - although I am far from an expert on high end guitars.

 

[Britney Spears]

I am totally jealous of all you with these new guitars, but I'm joining in soon.

Got my eyes on an old Guild acoustic (dad has a kick-### old Guild jumbo that sounds as good as any acoustic I've ever heard).

Couldn't settle on a hollow electric and I think I will get more use from an acoustic. I'd like to find one that's a lifer like my Tele.

 

[bigbottom]

Well speaking of luthier buddies, I sold Jose Oribe a Barth Motorhome in the early 90s. Spent two days at his house/guitar shop going over every detail of his new RV with him. Can't really call him buddy, because I've never seen him again, but I have ogled his guitars since he went online. That picture of him is 20 years old or he hasn't changed a lick. Yeah, the model in the link starts at 19k, and back then he was delivering two or three a month (over 10k per instrument). No idea how he's doing now, but if I was up for spending the kind of money Otis is on an acoustic, I would be all over this. I should probably learn to play a little first. I am struggling to learn. I'd buy an Oribe not just because I got to know the guy, but also because something handmade old school by one brilliant artist like him is ten times more interesting to me than what Martin and Taylor do.

Beautiful. And definitely more interesting than Martins and Taylors, but for me, while it would be cool to have a $10,000 classical guitar, it's not going to be particularly useful for what I play.

 

[bigbottom]

I am totally jealous of all you with these new guitars, but I'm joining in soon. Got my eyes on an old Guild acoustic (dad has a kick-### old Guild jumbo that sounds as good as any acoustic I've ever heard). Couldn't settle on a hollow electric and I think I will get more use from an acoustic. I'd like to find one that's a lifer like my Tele.

A lot of acoustics really do improve in tone as the wood ages. Grab that Guild while the gettin' is good!

 

[jdoggydogg]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

 

[Britney Spears]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Well speaking of luthier buddies, I sold Jose Oribe a Barth Motorhome in the early 90s. Spent two days at his house/guitar shop going over every detail of his new RV with him. Can't really call him buddy, because I've never seen him again, but I have ogled his guitars since he went online. That picture of him is 20 years old or he hasn't changed a lick. Yeah, the model in the link starts at 19k, and back then he was delivering two or three a month (over 10k per instrument). No idea how he's doing now, but if I was up for spending the kind of money Otis is on an acoustic, I would be all over this. I should probably learn to play a little first. I am struggling to learn. I'd buy an Oribe not just because I got to know the guy, but also because something handmade old school by one brilliant artist like him is ten times more interesting to me than what Martin and Taylor do.

Beautiful. And definitely more interesting than Martins and Taylors, but for me, while it would be cool to have a $10,000 classical guitar, it's not going to be particularly useful for what I play.

I'm sure I could google for this answer, but what is the difference in a classical and/or flamenco and those useful for what you play. I love flamenco guitar, and have some favorite classical guitarists too.

And, the Oribe I would buy is 20 years old and under 4k... both good things, right?

 

[Chaos Commish]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

Maybe. If I practice an hour a day, how long before I should be able to actually play some decent guitar. Because doing so for a week has shown almost no progress. Secretly, I'm starting to hate these things... and all of you too.

 

[bigbottom]

Well speaking of luthier buddies, I sold Jose Oribe a Barth Motorhome in the early 90s. Spent two days at his house/guitar shop going over every detail of his new RV with him. Can't really call him buddy, because I've never seen him again, but I have ogled his guitars since he went online. That picture of him is 20 years old or he hasn't changed a lick. Yeah, the model in the link starts at 19k, and back then he was delivering two or three a month (over 10k per instrument). No idea how he's doing now, but if I was up for spending the kind of money Otis is on an acoustic, I would be all over this. I should probably learn to play a little first. I am struggling to learn. I'd buy an Oribe not just because I got to know the guy, but also because something handmade old school by one brilliant artist like him is ten times more interesting to me than what Martin and Taylor do.

Beautiful. And definitely more interesting than Martins and Taylors, but for me, while it would be cool to have a $10,000 classical guitar, it's not going to be particularly useful for what I play.

I'm sure I could google for this answer, but what is the difference in a classical and/or flamenco and those useful for what you play. I love flamenco guitar, and have some favorite classical guitarists too.

Nylon string vs. steel string. Most of what I play is rock, country, folk - which is usually played on a steel string guitar. I see now that Oribe does offer a steel string model, but classical guitars are clearly his forte.

And, the Oribe I would buy is 20 years old and under 4k... both good things, right?

Under 4k is definitely good. As for 20 years old, possibly yes.

 

[Britney Spears]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

Maybe. If I practice an hour a day, how long before I should be able to actually play some decent guitar. Because doing so for a week has shown almost no progress. Secretly, I'm starting to hate these things... and all of you too.

I'm terrible GB. Practice does help tremendously. I wish I could play for an hour every day. I try to play every single day, but is usually only 10-15 minutes between work and family.

 

[Chaos Commish]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

Maybe. If I practice an hour a day, how long before I should be able to actually play some decent guitar. Because doing so for a week has shown almost no progress. Secretly, I'm starting to hate these things... and all of you too.

I'm terrible GB.Practice does help tremendously. I wish I could play for an hour every day. I try to play every single day, but is usually only 10-15 minutes between work and family.

Well I hear you can gain an hour a day by skipping lunch.

 

[Aerial Assault]

Personally, if you're just looking for jam partners, rather than a gig with a serious band, I'd just ask around your circle of friends and work colleagues. Chances are somebody will know someone who plays guitar or drums (a bass player with gear is probably the most elusive component, and you already have that covered). A personal connection among your social circle will decrease the likelihood of some psycho showing up. And you might be amazed at how many "retired" players there are out there among your extended network.You can also try local classifieds or CL. Just to give you an example, in Houston, Houstonbands.net is a good source, but again, most of the entries are either for vacancies in gigging bands, or for people putting together outfits with serious aspirations for success, rather than just to jam for fun.A third option is to get a couple of your friends to start learning guitar and drums. Obviously the competence level will be very low, which may not be anything you're interested in, but it will give you a great excuse to make noise and drink beer with your buds.The first option above is how my band was put together. A guy I knew through work knew another guy who was trying to put together a band and needed a singer. We started out just jamming but found a groove and decided to start gigging and writing/recording original music. All the guys are older with their own careers and just look at music as a hobby. I'm guessing that's where your interest lies, but in LA, there are a crapload of musicians who are trying to "make it" (or at least there were back in the early 90s when I was playing the LA circuit). You probably don't want to hook up with those guys.First step? Ask around. Best of luck!

**Great** answer; thanks very much. And you're right, a bass player is the most scarce commodity, which is the main reason (apart from also wanting to sing a bit, which is easier for me while playing bass) why I'm looking to jam as a bass player. If I fall into some situation where there's a rhythm section and a keyboardist (I really dig my keyboards) looking for a guitarist with jazz-rock leanings, then I'd be interested, but it's far more likely that I'll find something like what you're describing as a bassist.

I will start looking around and really appreciate the strong advice.

 

[jdoggydogg]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

I'm going to settle for fondling my new V. But I'll live vicariously through you. Be sure to post pics.

 

[jdoggydogg]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

Maybe. If I practice an hour a day, how long before I should be able to actually play some decent guitar. Because doing so for a week has shown almost no progress. Secretly, I'm starting to hate these things... and all of you too.

What, you aren't playing like Hendrix after a week? You suck

Here's what I'd do: practice the fundamentals (scales, chords, etc.) But also reward yourself with some practice time just to learn a simple song.

 

[Otis]

I am totally jealous of all you with these new guitars, but I'm joining in soon.Got my eyes on an old Guild acoustic (dad has a kick-### old Guild jumbo that sounds as good as any acoustic I've ever heard).Couldn't settle on a hollow electric and I think I will get more use from an acoustic. I'd like to find one that's a lifer like my Tele.

A lot of acoustics really do improve in tone as the wood ages. Grab that Guild while the gettin' is good!

Agree. There are some awesome vintage guilds out there. There are also some great vintage Yamaha acoustics.

Whatever you do, make sure you get one with a straight neck and which has been kept humidified. All the rest -- dings, scratches, etc. -- are just cosmetic and totally unimportant, and as BB notes, the wood on many of these guys tends to "open up" with time and play and sound even better years down the road. Vintage used gear with some cosmetic flaws are a great place to find steals, just be careful with acoustic instruments as if they haven't been cared for and humidified properly you could have a mess on your hands.

GL!

 

[Otis]

You guys are killing me with all this talk about good acoustics. Now I want one, too

Lets do this.

Maybe. If I practice an hour a day, how long before I should be able to actually play some decent guitar. Because doing so for a week has shown almost no progress. Secretly, I'm starting to hate these things... and all of you too.

I'm terrible GB.Practice does help tremendously. I wish I could play for an hour every day. I try to play every single day, but is usually only 10-15 minutes between work and family.

Well I hear you can gain an hour a day by skipping lunch.

Gotta sell your soul to be good.

:jackbutler:

 

[bigbottom]

I am totally jealous of all you with these new guitars, but I'm joining in soon.Got my eyes on an old Guild acoustic (dad has a kick-### old Guild jumbo that sounds as good as any acoustic I've ever heard).Couldn't settle on a hollow electric and I think I will get more use from an acoustic. I'd like to find one that's a lifer like my Tele.

A lot of acoustics really do improve in tone as the wood ages. Grab that Guild while the gettin' is good!

Agree. There are some awesome vintage guilds out there. There are also some great vintage Yamaha acoustics. Whatever you do, make sure you get one with a straight neck and which has been kept humidified. All the rest -- dings, scratches, etc. -- are just cosmetic and totally unimportant, and as BB notes, the wood on many of these guys tends to "open up" with time and play and sound even better years down the road. Vintage used gear with some cosmetic flaws are a great place to find steals, just be careful with acoustic instruments as if they haven't been cared for and humidified properly you could have a mess on your hands. GL!

Great posting all around. I have a tendency to be pretty OCD about my guitars. But once you can accept that cosmetic flaws = character, you can find amazing deals on gear. But Otis is right that acoustics must be cared for. So you need to do your homework when buying used.In any event, it sounds like the Guild may be free, so it's all upside.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

 

[Apple Jack]

I would avoid Yamaha acoustics like the plague, but that's just me.

 

[coyote5]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

Awesome view from your backyard! Anyway, if you have other rooms that share a wall with your new music room, I don't think you're going to get the kind of sound deadening you're expecting. If there aren't any rooms, or it's just your garage maybe that won't be a big deal to you.

 

[bigbottom]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

It's like Red Rocks. Sunday Bloody Sunday!!!

Very cool on the music room. Please keep us updated on the progress and shoot pics if you can. Interested to hear how the expanding foam works.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

Awesome view from your backyard! Anyway, if you have other rooms that share a wall with your new music room, I don't think you're going to get the kind of sound deadening you're expecting. If there aren't any rooms, or it's just your garage maybe that won't be a big deal to you.

3 outside walls, 1 has the garage on the other side. Connecting the ac vent is going to pipe sound through the house though. Oof.

 

[glock]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

Awesome view from your backyard! Anyway, if you have other rooms that share a wall with your new music room, I don't think you're going to get the kind of sound deadening you're expecting. If there aren't any rooms, or it's just your garage maybe that won't be a big deal to you.

3 outside walls, 1 has the garage on the other side. Connecting the ac vent is going to pipe sound through the house though. Oof.

 

[Otis]

Music room progress. Worked well past midnight on a dark desert evening. I'm in the desert. My backyard. Hot, brutally dry climate. This room doesn't have heating or ac, but it's close enough for me to connect to the house system. One vent should handle it. I thought about just putting a unit in that broken window. Kid says window ACs are ghetto, and it doesn't work with the sound plug idea.

I drilled small holes in the doors and walls and filled them with expanding foam. Used a dozen cans inserting the little straw into the cavities. Worked great but for blowing out the mouse hole and a couple leaky spots to the outside that I'm glad are filled but messed up a nice sidewalk. Very noticeable sound deadening and excellent much needed insulation. We can barely hear a knock on the walls from the adjoining garage. That stuff is horrid to get on you or off of anything, btw. It is aggressively expansive too. One can goes a long way. Help never arrived, so I cut the sheetrock into 4x4's and hung it myself. I was going to tape and mud today, but an engineer rocket scientist neighbor thinks I should glue up heavy foam and carpet the ceiling. If this room's a rocking, don't bother knockin'? I have a couple remnants that will do the job in blah beige, just not so sure about this yet. He approved the foam fill but said my ceiling was "a loudspeaker". Anyway, this foam was very simple and effective sound deadening if not quite soundproofing. Wow, it's 11am and I'm just getting coffee. I kind of like being accidentally retired.

Holy crap your backyard is awesome.

I need to move.