***Official*** Holy Grail Redux WW Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[bostonfred]

Talk to me about mex

Mex was real eager to follow Norm's list after he died, that is the last thing I remember. I am gonna have to analyze him a bit

norms list had him as a gg. If he's bad and we lynched down that last the rest of the way he would look like a gg for following a published working road map and the bgs would win.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Ultimately, if we're this game, it's going to be the non-reveals on Acer and Bender that do us in.

why?

If we had their reveals, any uncountered GGRP claims from here on in would confirm people and narrow the lynch pool. Now we can't be entirely sure one way or the other.

 

[Hodor]

Talk to me about mex

Mex was real eager to follow Norm's list after he died, that is the last thing I remember. I am gonna have to analyze him a bit

norms list had him as a gg. If he's bad and we lynched down that last the rest of the way he would look like a gg for following a published working road map and the bgs would win.

yep, exactly

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Beer thirty. Won't be back on until tomorrow at best, hence my early claim. Didn't want to leave you all hanging. Until then...

 

[McGarnicle]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

Jesus...yeah, me trying to play the hero role is about as ####ed as you can get. I guess we both have the disadvantage of never facing each other before. All I can say is, I don't have that kind of ego. I was actually hoping there would be an opportunity for me to draw bg votes and die, but know that the bg's had wasted a vote on a mere PBJ, thereby giving a ggrp an advantage and hopefully we'd turn around the losing streak we were on. As a noob watching us getting our asses handed to us, that looked like my best outcome. Do my little part for the village. As far as today goes, it's actually really simple so I'll cut to the chase.

1. The remaining players are better and more experienced than me.

2. The rules keep changing, the finish line seems like a moving target, etc.

3. When I've followed the conventional wisdom, I've been wrong as often as I've been right.

4. When I used my intuition and thought outside the box, icon was just ridiculously obvious as a bg.

5. If I put myself in bf's shoes and he's a good guy, maybe he sees me as a bit of a dork, or someone who posts too much, or asks too many damn questions, but, holy crap, he took out a bg that no one even suspected........whatever else I think about him, I inherently dig this dude and I'm glad he's on my team. Or maybe he hates me anyway for some reason, I don't know. I just don't think someone who treated me like dog#### at that moment was really happy about what I had done.

6. Go back and see how bf treated me from that point if you don't believe me. Contrast it with reactions from villagers who thought we were dead men walking up until that point. To call me "mcgarnicle galore" and then make a point of making me look stupid because I didn't know what a scholar report was? I mean, come on. He's pissed because some dude he's never heard of learned the game that quickly and suddenly the sand shifted beneath his feet. That was some real hatred coming from him, because I was an annoying upstart noob asking too many questions and getting the right answers. And what I find so hilarious about this game -- declaring PJB early and unsolicited is so stupid according to.....everyone.....and I'm as bewildered as anyone that I'm still here.

 

[bostonfred]

Proxy to someone before you go?

 

[bostonfred]

Lol. Sorry I called you a #####. if thinking octomcgarnicle is funny makes me a bg then I don't want to be a gg anymore.

 

[bostonfred]

I think you misunderstood the other stuff completely too. If anything I've repeatedly said you're playing too well for a rookie, I am glad you plan to start playing more, and I've taken a lot of time this week patiently explaining stuff for your benefit because you seem so into it. I'm not laying into you for not knowing what a scholar report is. You've never been in a game with one. this is a really unusual rule set for a first time player. And when you said you knew what some if those things were but not others I took time out of my real life day to explain it for you. Calling that hatred makes me feel a little unappreciated but Im sorry you felt that way and I'm sincerely sorry for two of the three ways I called you a ##### the other night.

 

[McGarnicle]

Lol. Sorry I called you a #####. if thinking octomcgarnicle is funny makes me a bg then I don't want to be a gg anymore.

Jesus don't apologize, I thought it was funny too. We've got trolls here that I genuinely regret how bad I've torn them down. Call me the worst thing you can think of, I don't know you and I don't give a ####.If you can't put yourself in my shoes and think of the sequence of events at the time, then you're not as good at this as you think you are IMO.

 

[bostonfred]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

you probably read this ad he being critical, but I took a lot of time explaining what a Kendall is for you and dan. Did anyone else do that for you?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

you probably read this ad he being critical, but I took a lot of time explaining what a Kendall is for you and dan. Did anyone else do that for you?

I bet Hodor would have

 

[Hodor]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

Jesus...yeah, me trying to play the hero role is about as ####ed as you can get. I guess we both have the disadvantage of never facing each other before. All I can say is, I don't have that kind of ego. I was actually hoping there would be an opportunity for me to draw bg votes and die, but know that the bg's had wasted a vote on a mere PBJ, thereby giving a ggrp an advantage and hopefully we'd turn around the losing streak we were on. As a noob watching us getting our asses handed to us, that looked like my best outcome. Do my little part for the village. As far as today goes, it's actually really simple so I'll cut to the chase.

1. The remaining players are better and more experienced than me.

2. The rules keep changing, the finish line seems like a moving target, etc.

3. When I've followed the conventional wisdom, I've been wrong as often as I've been right.

4. When I used my intuition and thought outside the box, icon was just ridiculously obvious as a bg.

5. If I put myself in bf's shoes and he's a good guy, maybe he sees me as a bit of a dork, or someone who posts too much, or asks too many damn questions, but, holy crap, he took out a bg that no one even suspected........whatever else I think about him, I inherently dig this dude and I'm glad he's on my team. Or maybe he hates me anyway for some reason, I don't know. I just don't think someone who treated me like dog#### at that moment was really happy about what I had done.

6. Go back and see how bf treated me from that point if you don't believe me. Contrast it with reactions from villagers who thought we were dead men walking up until that point. To call me "mcgarnicle galore" and then make a point of making me look stupid because I didn't know what a scholar report was? I mean, come on. He's pissed because some dude he's never heard of learned the game that quickly and suddenly the sand shifted beneath his feet. That was some real hatred coming from him, because I was an annoying upstart noob asking too many questions and getting the right answers. And what I find so hilarious about this game -- declaring PJB early and unsolicited is so stupid according to.....everyone.....and I'm as bewildered as anyone that I'm still here.

McGarnicle you might be falling into the trap of attitude towards the new guy = bad guy. That happened to me my first game too. There are a lot of different personalities that play this lovely game, people will be dix and people will be peaches. But that does not equate to bg alignment, in fact bgs often act nicer than ggs.

 

[McGarnicle]

I think you misunderstood the other stuff completely too. If anything I've repeatedly said you're playing too well for a rookie, I am glad you plan to start playing more, and I've taken a lot of time this week patiently explaining stuff for your benefit because you seem so into it. I'm not laying into you for not knowing what a scholar report is. You've never been in a game with one. this is a really unusual rule set for a first time player. And when you said you knew what some if those things were but not others I took time out of my real life day to explain it for you. Calling that hatred makes me feel a little unappreciated but Im sorry you felt that way and I'm sincerely sorry for two of the three ways I called you a ##### the other night.

Awesome response. I don't know how this is going to turn out. I had to cast aside logic because all the remaining people could be good or bad and I don't have any massively compelling argument to include or exclude anyone. And you are all more experienced than me.

At this point, 7 left, I'm here if I like it or not, I need to make a judgment, and I did it. You villagers decide if it's flawed. You decide if it matches what you've observed. Make a decision you feel good about right now. If you don't like my decision I'm really sorry, but it is what it is.

 

[McGarnicle]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

Jesus...yeah, me trying to play the hero role is about as ####ed as you can get. I guess we both have the disadvantage of never facing each other before. All I can say is, I don't have that kind of ego. I was actually hoping there would be an opportunity for me to draw bg votes and die, but know that the bg's had wasted a vote on a mere PBJ, thereby giving a ggrp an advantage and hopefully we'd turn around the losing streak we were on. As a noob watching us getting our asses handed to us, that looked like my best outcome. Do my little part for the village. As far as today goes, it's actually really simple so I'll cut to the chase.

1. The remaining players are better and more experienced than me.

2. The rules keep changing, the finish line seems like a moving target, etc.

3. When I've followed the conventional wisdom, I've been wrong as often as I've been right.

4. When I used my intuition and thought outside the box, icon was just ridiculously obvious as a bg.

5. If I put myself in bf's shoes and he's a good guy, maybe he sees me as a bit of a dork, or someone who posts too much, or asks too many damn questions, but, holy crap, he took out a bg that no one even suspected........whatever else I think about him, I inherently dig this dude and I'm glad he's on my team. Or maybe he hates me anyway for some reason, I don't know. I just don't think someone who treated me like dog#### at that moment was really happy about what I had done.

6. Go back and see how bf treated me from that point if you don't believe me. Contrast it with reactions from villagers who thought we were dead men walking up until that point. To call me "mcgarnicle galore" and then make a point of making me look stupid because I didn't know what a scholar report was? I mean, come on. He's pissed because some dude he's never heard of learned the game that quickly and suddenly the sand shifted beneath his feet. That was some real hatred coming from him, because I was an annoying upstart noob asking too many questions and getting the right answers. And what I find so hilarious about this game -- declaring PJB early and unsolicited is so stupid according to.....everyone.....and I'm as bewildered as anyone that I'm still here.

McGarnicle you might be falling into the trap of attitude towards the new guy = bad guy. That happened to me my first game too. There are a lot of different personalities that play this lovely game, people will be dix and people will be peaches. But that does not equate to bg alignment, in fact bgs often act nicer than ggs.

Yeah well the only person pinging bg as loud as bf to me is you. I'm sure you're a wonderful person in real life but that's the vibe I'm getting.

 

[Hodor]

LOL

 

[Hodor]

Rid the paranoia and let's hunt this last bg mmk?

 

[Hodor]

I'm 90% leaning towards EG

 

[McGarnicle]

Latest claim list?

 

[bostonfred]

Brent and bostonfred, suspects 1 and 2 imo

 

[McGarnicle]

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

Jesus...yeah, me trying to play the hero role is about as ####ed as you can get. I guess we both have the disadvantage of never facing each other before. All I can say is, I don't have that kind of ego. I was actually hoping there would be an opportunity for me to draw bg votes and die, but know that the bg's had wasted a vote on a mere PBJ, thereby giving a ggrp an advantage and hopefully we'd turn around the losing streak we were on. As a noob watching us getting our asses handed to us, that looked like my best outcome. Do my little part for the village. As far as today goes, it's actually really simple so I'll cut to the chase.

1. The remaining players are better and more experienced than me.

2. The rules keep changing, the finish line seems like a moving target, etc.

3. When I've followed the conventional wisdom, I've been wrong as often as I've been right.

4. When I used my intuition and thought outside the box, icon was just ridiculously obvious as a bg.

5. If I put myself in bf's shoes and he's a good guy, maybe he sees me as a bit of a dork, or someone who posts too much, or asks too many damn questions, but, holy crap, he took out a bg that no one even suspected........whatever else I think about him, I inherently dig this dude and I'm glad he's on my team. Or maybe he hates me anyway for some reason, I don't know. I just don't think someone who treated me like dog#### at that moment was really happy about what I had done.

6. Go back and see how bf treated me from that point if you don't believe me. Contrast it with reactions from villagers who thought we were dead men walking up until that point. To call me "mcgarnicle galore" and then make a point of making me look stupid because I didn't know what a scholar report was? I mean, come on. He's pissed because some dude he's never heard of learned the game that quickly and suddenly the sand shifted beneath his feet. That was some real hatred coming from him, because I was an annoying upstart noob asking too many questions and getting the right answers. And what I find so hilarious about this game -- declaring PJB early and unsolicited is so stupid according to.....everyone.....and I'm as bewildered as anyone that I'm still here.

McGarnicle you might be falling into the trap of attitude towards the new guy = bad guy. That happened to me my first game too. There are a lot of different personalities that play this lovely game, people will be dix and people will be peaches. But that does not equate to bg alignment, in fact bgs often act nicer than ggs.

This deserves a better response......I am prone to that type of thinking (abrasive=bg).....and it does appear thin-skinned and I need to check myself when that instinct arises.....but.....what happened when I got the grenade? At that moment, FUJB was the most malignant sonofa##### in the game according to my logic at the time. But there were more experienced voices just beginning to suggest something different at the time, and I listened. I wanted to blast FUJB so freaking bad...and then EG because he threw a random grenade. I'm a satirist and that stuff is irresistible to me, just the idea of how it would be received. I laughed out loud thinking about it. But, I thought it through and made a better decision.

 

[bostonfred]

OK so here's the deal. a couple days agI I decided that I trusted merlin, Brent, norm, fujb post claim, octomcgarnicle, and I uneasily trusted ib for the very last timeh. I was wrong about ib, but the rest of them I was right about, and we've been lynching down the list of everyone else since. while the bgs have been taking out the people I trusted. The only veteran left is brent, and if he's bad, I tip my cap. And if mcgarnicle is bad, I'll be happier for him that he won his first game by carrying his team to victory than I would be for myself if I won. So it's down to the other four.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Hi guys have me looked at the rabbit kills and see who the target was? Voting history? This is yeomans type work that needs to happen imo

 

[bostonfred]

So now we are down to eg, mexiJoe, witz and lambskin. Eg blew up a pj without claim d1, but he does that. So does fujb, and he was good. In fact, when bg icon got the grenade, he went out of his way to act pro village when he wasn't. So the grenade thing really doesn't bother be, especially when eg had every reason to believe he could get away without admitting he'd used it. he's also had moments of gg behavior that I've noticed. The possible hc is explainable, but I'm mostly in the eg = gg camp

 

[bostonfred]

Witz seems like a bogus claim for a guy who had totally disappeared all game. I've already posted a lot about why I think the claim stinks, but I fully admit it's not airtight. He also sounded really credible when he and i were debating, but he's a good enough player that I can't quite put him in the gg column for that.

I don't want to vote for him today. though, because if he really is the angel, he's a priority target for the bad guys and a wham would both confirm him and give us a wham. So witz is not the play today

 

[bostonfred]

that leaves Joe and Dan. And both of these guys have been kind of coasting along. Playing well mostly agreeable but never really leading. I feel like this is the bg sweet spot right now. Id like to hear more from each of you today before I place my vote and I'd also like to hear from Brent. if I had to guess id probably guess mex, but I'd rather be in a Kendall with an experienced player

 

[McGarnicle]

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I have some reservations about claiming. At some point doesn't it make it easier for the BG to figure out who the final GGRP are and take them out at night?

Nobody's going to claim bad obviously and I'd assume BG gonna claim PJB at this point (counter claims of GGRP just allows you to lynch one today and if you're wrong lynch the liar tomorrow)

So I'll say I'm good but that's it and to be honest you pushing everyone to claim makes me a little uneasy

Still feel the worst about EG but BF creeping up my list

 

[bostonfred]

Lol

 

[Dan Lambskin]

 

[McGarnicle]

I have some reservations about claiming. At some point doesn't it make it easier for the BG to figure out who the final GGRP are and take them out at night?

Nobody's going to claim bad obviously and I'd assume BG gonna claim PJB at this point (counter claims of GGRP just allows you to lynch one today and if you're wrong lynch the liar tomorrow)

So I'll say I'm good but that's it and to be honest you pushing everyone to claim makes me a little uneasy

Still feel the worst about EG but BF creeping up my list

I can't thank you enough for joining me on this journey.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Calling it a night

Catch you guys tomorrow....hopefully we'll have more to go on

 

[Arodin]

Thread is a week old, and 125 pages.

Everytime I think "ww was fun, maybe I should play again" I read along a game thread and this jumps out at me.

I envy y'all your levels of free time.

Good game to read along with. Eager to see how it ends.

 

[Hodor]

that leaves Joe and Dan. And both of these guys have been kind of coasting along. Playing well mostly agreeable but never really leading. I feel like this is the bg sweet spot right now. Id like to hear more from each of you today before I place my vote and I'd also like to hear from Brent. if I had to guess id probably guess mex, but I'd rather be in a Kendall with an experienced player

When I get some time I will read through them both to see if anything stands out.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Pj here, was positive that Zed and Bucky were bad from day 1 although I was pretty sure with Loan as well and I'd like to think I had a little to do with it.

Zed> my bad

 

[bostonfred]

did a little reading, I think lambskin is a gg. Joe I couldn't find much outside of the day we decided to run up both loan and foos. Joe is right that he helped

push for loan, but foos was the blocker so the bg team may have decided someone was going down and foos was more valuable.

Going to reread a little more but leaning towards Joe today.

 

[bostonfred]

Honestly that looks like gg eg to me. I can't get over him announcing that he had the grenade before instantly using it on turtle. Yeah it was reckless but eg really does do that as a gg or bg. But if you're a bg, you started out with a grenade, and you know you're about to kill a gg, why announce it? I mean, it looks like it gave him cred now, but at the time it put a big bullseye on him. Would be surprised to find out he wasn't a peej.

 

[bostonfred]

vote cgrdrjoe

 

[bostonfred]

would love to hear what witz thinks

 

[McGarnicle]

So hungover imo

 

[McGarnicle]

Just looking back through everyone's posts now.

That didn't sound like you laying out a case. It sounds like you're trying to justify a hero play. We all do it. But this isn't the time in the game for stubborn decisions.

there are seven players left. If there are two bgs left, and one lynch per day and one inch per night, then we only get one miss. Tomorrow there would be 5 players, three good and two bad, and the bgs would never vote for each other, so all three ggs would need to vote for the same bg or the bg team wins. We call that a Kendall because if a guy named Kendall who used to play.

I think it's more likely there's only one bg left. So we get two misses before we are in a three person Kendall.

We had a couple really bad days to start the game, but then we had some good days that bought us the wiggle room to missone or twice. But that's all we get for leeway, so we need to tighten things way up. If you think I'm bad, explain why and convince people to vote for me. Saying you have a hunch andplan to be stubborn isn't enough, and it's the kind of thing bad guys do, especially newbies at the end of the game.

Jesus...yeah, me trying to play the hero role is about as ####ed as you can get. I guess we both have the disadvantage of never facing each other before. All I can say is, I don't have that kind of ego. I was actually hoping there would be an opportunity for me to draw bg votes and die, but know that the bg's had wasted a vote on a mere PBJ, thereby giving a ggrp an advantage and hopefully we'd turn around the losing streak we were on. As a noob watching us getting our asses handed to us, that looked like my best outcome. Do my little part for the village. As far as today goes, it's actually really simple so I'll cut to the chase.

1. The remaining players are better and more experienced than me.

2. The rules keep changing, the finish line seems like a moving target, etc.

3. When I've followed the conventional wisdom, I've been wrong as often as I've been right.

4. When I used my intuition and thought outside the box, icon was just ridiculously obvious as a bg.

5. If I put myself in bf's shoes and he's a good guy, maybe he sees me as a bit of a dork, or someone who posts too much, or asks too many damn questions, but, holy crap, he took out a bg that no one even suspected........whatever else I think about him, I inherently dig this dude and I'm glad he's on my team. Or maybe he hates me anyway for some reason, I don't know. I just don't think someone who treated me like dog#### at that moment was really happy about what I had done.

6. Go back and see how bf treated me from that point if you don't believe me. Contrast it with reactions from villagers who thought we were dead men walking up until that point. To call me "mcgarnicle galore" and then make a point of making me look stupid because I didn't know what a scholar report was? I mean, come on. He's pissed because some dude he's never heard of learned the game that quickly and suddenly the sand shifted beneath his feet. That was some real hatred coming from him, because I was an annoying upstart noob asking too many questions and getting the right answers. And what I find so hilarious about this game -- declaring PJB early and unsolicited is so stupid according to.....everyone.....and I'm as bewildered as anyone that I'm still here.

McGarnicle you might be falling into the trap of attitude towards the new guy = bad guy. That happened to me my first game too. There are a lot of different personalities that play this lovely game, people will be dix and people will be peaches. But that does not equate to bg alignment, in fact bgs often act nicer than ggs.

Yeah well the only person pinging bg as loud as bf to me is you. I'm sure you're a wonderful person in real life but that's the vibe I'm getting.

I don't know if I really believe this as I look back through posts. I was running pretty hot last night, obviously. Being the next bg on Norm's list is compelling though.Still going over everyone's posts.

 

[McGarnicle]

Went through all of EG's gameplay, not a lot of GG points imo. I had totally forgotten about the nading of unclaimed dhart. I was not around for that.

D1

- voted GG spoofy

- Blew up GG dhart with no warning, anti village imo

- said BG icon was worrisome cause he votes him when he is bad and icon proxied bry who was voting him

- defended his grenade throw by saying a BG would wait for GGRP claim (but a bg would not know if a GG passed it to him)

- voted GG Bry based on a Worm read

- voted BG Rascal with BG Hags for a triple run up when two GGs were Leading vote getters

D2

- votes GG Bucky

- Tells BG icon to nade either GG spoofy, GG bucky or GG Bryhamm

D3

- votes GG hulk, low flyer easy target imo

- argues more with bry for him calling his nading of dhart anti village

- switches to help lynch GG Manback cause hulk had no traction

D4

- started out with kind of a forced post calling the night kills f'ing ridiculous

- announces he will now lead the village cause the village sucks

- backed Dan's theory that votes on Acer transfer to LVG, makes a suspect list based on that

- calls out Zed for his (stolen) grenade toss

- jumps on the BG Rascal train after his game event view

- wanted people to vote BG rascal and Acer to solve the vote manip theory

- defends himself by saying he staying on rascal and wants people to vote him but testing theory.

- unvotes rascal and votes ACer...

D5

- wants to start a voting bloc with BG icon and GG Cav...

- says village is getting #### kicked out of us, merlin calls him out

- votes BG Foos, says his claim is fake

- votes BG Loan Sharks, but unvotes for a claim

- revotes foos, revotes loan calls for foos the next day.

D6 votes foos

- asks about the holy grail passing

- talks about if he were bg he would want to strangle all of the BG low flyers

- Tells GG Zed to OBGS

- No comments on Hags claim

- votes GG Merlin? Doesnt even go back to Foos the guy he was clammoring for?

D7

- makes a post with all the players and has GG Merlin, Witz, GG Sand, and GG Zed in his four suspects

- Makes weird post listing all roles and Hags as claiming Bedevere...

- Then hammers Hags

d8 votes Witz

Hodor, based on what you've laid out here, level of confidence EG is bad? Leading candidate?

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Scotch after 5 beers is never a good idea, but it's even stupider when you have to wake up early and drive 80 miles away for a kids lax game. I'm in no shape to try and analyze anything right now.

 

[McGarnicle]

Scotch after 5 beers is never a good idea, but it's even stupider when you have to wake up early and drive 80 miles away for a kids lax game. I'm in no shape to try and analyze anything right now.

At least you had the good sense not to post in that condition.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

Scotch after 5 beers is never a good idea, but it's even stupider when you have to wake up early and drive 80 miles away for a kids lax game. I'm in no shape to try and analyze anything right now.

At least you had the good sense not to post in that condition.

Wasn't possible

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I just checked, I'm still a PJB.

 

[McGarnicle]

Honestly that looks like gg eg to me. I can't get over him announcing that he had the grenade before instantly using it on turtle. Yeah it was reckless but eg really does do that as a gg or bg. But if you're a bg, you started out with a grenade, and you know you're about to kill a gg, why announce it? I mean, it looks like it gave him cred now, but at the time it put a big bullseye on him. Would be surprised to find out he wasn't a peej.

I'm starting to feel like reasonable doubt plus the PJB claim equals lynch. There's plenty of anti-village history to justify it. And if he ended up being bad and we let it slide, we'd kick ourselves and it would look so obvious in retrospect. I'm taking his reputation as a good player into consideration. He's good enough to pull it off, right?

 

[Hodor]

Honestly that looks like gg eg to me. I can't get over him announcing that he had the grenade before instantly using it on turtle. Yeah it was reckless but eg really does do that as a gg or bg. But if you're a bg, you started out with a grenade, and you know you're about to kill a gg, why announce it? I mean, it looks like it gave him cred now, but at the time it put a big bullseye on him. Would be surprised to find out he wasn't a peej.

I dunno, you gotta put yourself in a bg mindset. A bg is not going to know where that grenade came from and if it came from a ggrp. The first inclination is going to be to want to use it in a bg way but by announcing it he would maintain the veil of GG'ness. EG has history with DHart, I can see BG EG thinking #### it, I will just nade dhart, people will laugh it off cause of our history, blah blah.

I dont think that nade clears him by any means, the nade actually makes him look more wolfy to me imo

 

[Hodor]

Went through all of EG's gameplay, not a lot of GG points imo. I had totally forgotten about the nading of unclaimed dhart. I was not around for that.

D1

- voted GG spoofy

- Blew up GG dhart with no warning, anti village imo

- said BG icon was worrisome cause he votes him when he is bad and icon proxied bry who was voting him

- defended his grenade throw by saying a BG would wait for GGRP claim (but a bg would not know if a GG passed it to him)

- voted GG Bry based on a Worm read

- voted BG Rascal with BG Hags for a triple run up when two GGs were Leading vote getters

D2

- votes GG Bucky

- Tells BG icon to nade either GG spoofy, GG bucky or GG Bryhamm

D3

- votes GG hulk, low flyer easy target imo

- argues more with bry for him calling his nading of dhart anti village

- switches to help lynch GG Manback cause hulk had no traction

D4

- started out with kind of a forced post calling the night kills f'ing ridiculous

- announces he will now lead the village cause the village sucks

- backed Dan's theory that votes on Acer transfer to LVG, makes a suspect list based on that

- calls out Zed for his (stolen) grenade toss

- jumps on the BG Rascal train after his game event view

- wanted people to vote BG rascal and Acer to solve the vote manip theory

- defends himself by saying he staying on rascal and wants people to vote him but testing theory.

- unvotes rascal and votes ACer...

D5

- wants to start a voting bloc with BG icon and GG Cav...

- says village is getting #### kicked out of us, merlin calls him out

- votes BG Foos, says his claim is fake

- votes BG Loan Sharks, but unvotes for a claim

- revotes foos, revotes loan calls for foos the next day.

D6 votes foos

- asks about the holy grail passing

- talks about if he were bg he would want to strangle all of the BG low flyers

- Tells GG Zed to OBGS

- No comments on Hags claim

- votes GG Merlin? Doesnt even go back to Foos the guy he was clammoring for?

D7

- makes a post with all the players and has GG Merlin, Witz, GG Sand, and GG Zed in his four suspects

- Makes weird post listing all roles and Hags as claiming Bedevere...

- Then hammers Hags

d8 votes Witz

Hodor, based on what you've laid out here, level of confidence EG is bad? Leading candidate?

I have dropped from 90% to 85% simply because fred seems to be sure he is not bad and I think fred is good.

Actually another GG point for fred, he could easily have supported my thoughts that EG was bad to get another lynch but he is maintaining the belief that he is good. I think a BG in fred's shoes is not going to defend anyone imo,

 

[Hodor]

D2 Unofficial, okay this one is accurate I swear, the other Bob vote count

bucky (7) - EG72, culdeus, Sand, Conn, McGarnicle, Loan, Bender
Sp00fy (5) - Worm, bry*, Merlin, SacBob*, icon
IB (2) - hag, fred
sacbob (1) - bucky
Zed (1) - CGRdr

YTV - everyone else

bry proxies to Worm*
SacBob proxies to bucky*

bg sweet spot

whoa whoa whoa, I am reading back through Joes posts and this stands out big time.

Joe voted Bucky D1, thought he was bad, but here is D2 saying three GG players are BG cause they voted bucky.

1. Did he suddenly clear Bucky as GG?

2. He should have no f'ing clue whether bucky is good or not!

This reeks of a BG knowing Bucky's alignment and already trying to put the suspicion on those voting him. This is something that VI (from Pack) often accidentally does as a BG.