***Official*** Holy Grail Redux WW Game Thread (1 Viewer)

[Witz]

God? Isn't that sort of generic?

Agreed - not like modified coroner, right?

interesting comment from the guy who would later claim "lancelot, standard angel"

I know right? Doesn't make any sense when we have the grail to protect us. Who has the grail now? Oh that's right....

 

[bostonfred]

You dip ####s realize that if rascal gets 9 votes they can manip the votes to 12, right? Why is anyone voting for rascal when there's a vig item in play? Unvote please

How does that manip work again?

trying to figure out the manip? dosing me for acting like I knew? Or trying to figure out how the ggs thought the manip worked so they could screw with us?

 

[bostonfred]

@ Witz

No idea on Bucky.

D1 shtick for Worm - I thought it was obvious. Kinda why Otis stuck out to me.

Perhaps - but five folks seem to have bought it.

bostonfred and which other three ? ( I don't recall off the top o' my head )

BF, followed by Otis, followed by Bucky, followed by EG, followed by SacBob.

only post I can find where witz seems to be bg hunting. Of course, at least four of these guys were ggs.

 

[bostonfred]

also a lot of posts promising to contribute more later

 

[bostonfred]

Going back over that posting history, I don't see a lot of posts that led the village towards finding bgs. I do see you questioning why the village was locked in to gg spoofy, but also why we were locked in to a dual run up of two bgs.

 

[bostonfred]

and yet you may also have nailed the lf vig mechanic, before a bg got caught in it. If you were a bg I would expect you to have told the bgs to vote.

it seems odd that you were mostly popping in and out all game and yet were right on top of detailed things like that, and which kills were done by which bg/indy/lf vig, and the hags ghost vote. If you're a gg it could just be that you were reading but not posting much, but if you're a bg it makes sense that you had some inside info to help decipher it and/or were talking about this stuff on the bg board.

 

[bostonfred]

I'm going to go read brent, dan, mcgarnicle and eg a little more while the green room applauds or derides my tunnel vision

 

[McGarnicle]

Going to have sex with the lady across the street. I promise to contribute more later.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Night Report

No time for bells and whistles. A litte bunny tore bostonfred to pieces, leaving a bloody, mangled corpse. Dead is bostonfred - Plain Jane Briton.

I'm going to be running the meeting relay pretty much all day. If you need :vc:, you may have to grab them yourselves. I'll get those and any writeups as soon as humanly possible. If you get lynched and you know you're lynched, don't wait for me to make it official to S T F U. Sorry. One of those days.

Day 10. 5 live; 3 kill

 

[Bob Sacamano]

YTV - McGarnicle, Hodor, Lambskin, witz, EG

 

[bostonfred]

Green room imo

 

[McGarnicle]

See I told you guys Fred is good.

GG Fred.

 

[AcerFC]

Official D10 Bobs not here so Ill hold court Vote Count

5 alive; 3 lynch

YTV - McGarnicle, Hodor, Lambskin, witz, EG

 

[Hodor]

GG Fred

 

[Witz]

Sorry BF.

 

[Witz]

So at this point in time it appears that the group has claims from myself, McG and EG? Hodor and Dan yet to claim right?

 

[Hodor]

No, he doesn't. And I am highly skeptical that there would be an angel and a protection item in the game. Absent 2 reveals, we can't count on a counter claim for a character we know is in the game. I'm leaning towards taking a chance and going back to witz.

Might this have been a slight HC in that EG knew Joe was going to be good and EG was preparing for the next days runup? Or he may have just really not known that Joe was lynched at the time...

 

[Witz]

No, he doesn't. And I am highly skeptical that there would be an angel and a protection item in the game. Absent 2 reveals, we can't count on a counter claim for a character we know is in the game. I'm leaning towards taking a chance and going back to witz.

Might this have been a slight HC in that EG knew Joe was going to be good and EG was preparing for the next days runup? Or he may have just really not known that Joe was lynched at the time...

Interesting thought. He did follow that up with this though so maybe not.

Wait, Joe was lynched already?

 

[Hodor]

So at this point in time it appears that the group has claims from myself, McG and EG? Hodor and Dan yet to claim right?

correct

 

[Evilgrin 72]

No, he doesn't. And I am highly skeptical that there would be an angel and a protection item in the game. Absent 2 reveals, we can't count on a counter claim for a character we know is in the game. I'm leaning towards taking a chance and going back to witz.

Might this have been a slight HC in that EG knew Joe was going to be good and EG was preparing for the next days runup? Or he may have just really not known that Joe was lynched at the time...

I had no idea he was lynched, I was leaning towards Witz and didn't particularly like the Mex lynch.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

So at this point in time it appears that the group has claims from myself, McG and EG? Hodor and Dan yet to claim right?

correct

I think it's time we got those last two claims.

 

[McGarnicle]

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

 

[Witz]

Why would BF have been the kill last night?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Bear in mind, I don't think it is, but there's a possibility that we're at Kendall right now. No votes thrown out there willy-nilly, newbies.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

There goes my BF is bad theory I was gonna run with

I'm Shuked

 

[Hodor]

Considering I think Dan is good, I am good to claim

PJB all the way

 

[Witz]

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Have we seen anyone revealed as Arthur, Lancelot, Bedevere, or Galahad? Refresh my memory please.... I know we have a claimed Lancelot, but has anyone been revealed to be any of the other three? And we have 2 unknown deaths due to no coroner report - Bender and Acer, correct?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

There goes my BF is bad theory I was gonna run with

I'm Shuked

Claim please.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

There goes my BF is bad theory I was gonna run with

I'm Shuked

Claim please.

PJB

This leads me to believe Witz telling the truth

 

[Hodor]

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

 

[Witz]

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

How is McG confirmed again?

 

[Hodor]

BG taking

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

How is McG confirmed again?

He claimed the nade of BG icon

 

[McGarnicle]

Norm's list was uncanny IMO. Hodor and witz both bg's on that list.

We now know Fred was arguing for witz in good faith. Hodor and EG, you both voted for him previously and there seems to be a consensus (among WW vets) that witz's claim is a steaming pile.

Before I do anything I want to go back and see how many bg's had Hodor on a bg list.

 

[Witz]

BG taking

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

How is McG confirmed again?

He claimed the nade of BG icon

Not sure how that confirms him to be honest. If he is a BG, how is what he did any different than a BG busthrowing another? Honestly - that'd be a pretty smart move on their part, no?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Have we seen anyone revealed as Arthur, Lancelot, Bedevere, or Galahad? Refresh my memory please.... I know we have a claimed Lancelot, but has anyone been revealed to be any of the other three? And we have 2 unknown deaths due to no coroner report - Bender and Acer, correct?

According to Norm's post (that I mangled in trying to parse it, so I went back to his original post) - Arthur, Lancelot, and Bedevere were all bolded in writeups. I want to go back and try to verify that now. IF that is true, then it seems that Witz has to be telling the truth. It would mean that Acer and Bender were Arthur and Bedevere (or vice versa.) Simple deduction.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

BG taking

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

How is McG confirmed again?

He claimed the nade of BG icon

Yeah a well coached BG would never kill another BG right?

 

[Hodor]

BG taking

Fred is gunning for witz and gets killed by the rabbit. Seems a bit obvious IMO. Or maybe the intention was to make it appear too obvious.

The question in my mind is the rationale of the BG(s) for killing him.

GG BF is going hard after Witz and would probably continue to do so the next day (especially since the BG(s) know that Witz is telling the truth). Why not keep someone like that around to do the work for them on the next days lynch?

I thought it was going to be me, fred or McGarnicle tbh.

1. It might have been you doing the killing, which means you are gonna take out those who are vets and that you can't convince.

2. If you are truly the Angel and the BGs know it then they may have been avoiding wham choices so staying away from confirmed GG McGarnicle or you.

How is McG confirmed again?

He claimed the nade of BG icon

Not sure how that confirms him to be honest. If he is a BG, how is what he did any different than a BG busthrowing another? Honestly - that'd be a pretty smart move on their part, no?

icon did not really have any heat at the time that I remember. It was a pretty random nade choice that worked out well.

Although, the fact that a new player could spot a hidden bg like that and pull the trigger is overly impressive...

 

[Hodor]

ok I take back the confirmed part of McGarnicle. But I have thought he was a GG for a long time, going to take more than a theory of BG nading fellow BG for me to go there imo

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Have we seen anyone revealed as Arthur, Lancelot, Bedevere, or Galahad? Refresh my memory please.... I know we have a claimed Lancelot, but has anyone been revealed to be any of the other three? And we have 2 unknown deaths due to no coroner report - Bender and Acer, correct?

According to Norm's post (that I mangled in trying to parse it, so I went back to his original post) - Arthur, Lancelot, and Bedevere were all bolded in writeups. I want to go back and try to verify that now. IF that is true, then it seems that Witz has to be telling the truth. It would mean that Acer and Bender were Arthur and Bedevere (or vice versa.) Simple deduction.

Yep

Do we know if it's 1 or 2 BG left?

Have a feeling we could be getting played by a Hodor/McG tandem

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I've found Lancelot and Bedevere bolded but not Arthur. Norm had Arthur as a "confirmed by writeup" role, though. Can someone find me Arthur bolded in a writeup? I tried the search function, but it doesn't work, which makes it even harded than usual to BG hunt on this board.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Have we seen anyone revealed as Arthur, Lancelot, Bedevere, or Galahad? Refresh my memory please.... I know we have a claimed Lancelot, but has anyone been revealed to be any of the other three? And we have 2 unknown deaths due to no coroner report - Bender and Acer, correct?

According to Norm's post (that I mangled in trying to parse it, so I went back to his original post) - Arthur, Lancelot, and Bedevere were all bolded in writeups. I want to go back and try to verify that now. IF that is true, then it seems that Witz has to be telling the truth. It would mean that Acer and Bender were Arthur and Bedevere (or vice versa.) Simple deduction.

Yep

Do we know if it's 1 or 2 BG left?

Have a feeling we could be getting played by a Hodor/McG tandem

Part of what I am trying to deduce right now. If someone can fins Arthur bolded in a writeup, it may shed some more light on this.

 

[Hodor]

I've found Lancelot and Bedevere bolded but not Arthur. Norm had Arthur as a "confirmed by writeup" role, though. Can someone find me Arthur bolded in a writeup? I tried the search function, but it doesn't work, which makes it even harded than usual to BG hunt on this board.

Let me see if I can find it.

 

[McGarnicle]

I posted my rationale for taking out icon. I can go back and bump it if necessary. He seemed like a somewhat obvious choice at the time, or at least the least risky play I had for my Hail Mary toss.

 

[Hodor]

Lynch Report

BRIDGEKEEPER:

Hee hee heh. Stop! What... is your name?

ARTHUR:

It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.

BRIDGEKEEPER:

What... is your quest?

ARTHUR:

To seek the Holy Grail.

BRIDGEKEEPER:

What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

ARTHUR:

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

BRIDGEKEEPER:

Huh? I-- I don't know that. Auuuuuuuugh!

BEDEVERE:

How do know so much about swallows?

ARTHUR:

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

Cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril is rascal - Bridgekeeper, BGRP

Boom, Arthur is bolded

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Lynch Report

BRIDGEKEEPER:

Hee hee heh. Stop! What... is your name?

ARTHUR:

It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.

BRIDGEKEEPER:

What... is your quest?

ARTHUR:

To seek the Holy Grail.

BRIDGEKEEPER:

What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

ARTHUR:

What do you mean? An African or European swallow?

BRIDGEKEEPER:

Huh? I-- I don't know that. Auuuuuuuugh!

BEDEVERE:

How do know so much about swallows?

ARTHUR:

Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

Cast into the Gorge of Eternal Peril is rascal - Bridgekeeper, BGRP

Boom, Arthur is bolded

Thanks.

Unless I'm missing something then, one of two things has to be true.

1) Witz is telling the truth

2) We have a GGRP among the other 4 of us that is for whatever reason lying and claiming to be a PJB.

We've seen Lancelot, Bedevere, and Arthur bolded in writeups. None of the three characters has been revealed in a death report. We have 2 unknown players dead. Simple math would dictate that short of a writeup manipulation, at least one of these three characters HAS to be alive. We have 4 PJ claims and a Lancelot claim.

Poke holes, please. Am I missing anything?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

31. d<3 - Plain Jane Briton, Killed D1

2. Otis - Plain Jane Briton: Lynched D1

26. Sinn - Concorde. GGRP: Killed N1

39. snow - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N1

18. Spoofy - Plain Jane Briton: Killed D2

6. Bucky - Plain Jane Briton Lynched D2

40. Bender - Killed N2

13. culdeus - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N2
7. Pav - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N2
4. stryker - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N2

5. SacramentoBob - Dennis, GGRP: Killed D3

34. bryhamm - Sir Robin, GGRP: Killed D3

14. Harry - Plain Jane Briton: Lynched D3

36. worm - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N3

21. ConnSKINS - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N3

19. Hulk - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N3

Game Event

12. rascal - Bridgekeeper, BGRP: Lynched D4

24. Acer - Killed N4

32. Yuk - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N4

15. magichat - Black Beast of Auuughh, BGRP: Killed N4

23. fatguy - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N4

16. icon - Knight of Ni, BGRPKilled D5

37. LoanSharks - Three-headed Knight, BGRP: Lynched D5

10. bell - Sir Not-appearing-in-this-film, Neutral RP: Killed N5

28. BlackBox - French Guard, BGRP: Killed N5

8. IB - Tim the Enchanter, Indy: Killed N5

22. Foos - Zoot, BGRP: Lynched D6

30. Sand - Brother Maynard, GGRP: Killed N6

38. norm - Plain Jane Briton: Killed N6

17. Hagmania - The Black Knight, BGRP: Lynched D7

1. FatUncleJerryBus - Cart Master, GGRP: Killed N7

That's the last update from post 1, in addition to this, we have Zed, MexiJoe, Merlin, and BFred all dead PJBs, correct? Someone please correct me if I f'd something up.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

We have 5 dead revealed GGRPs, 7 BGRPs, 19 PJs, 2 ?? (Bender, Acer) and 2 neutral/indy (Bell, IB.)

I have to assume there's only 1 BGRP left. If there were 2 left, that means they started with 9 (before adding Bell), which would mean that there were likely 9 GGRPs as well. We only have 5 revealed. If Acer and bender were both GGRPs, as I am guessing they were, that would leave two left and we only have 1 claimed. Doesn't make sense. If we started with :

8 GGRP

8 BGRP

1 INDY

1 NEUTRAL RP

22 PJBs

That would leave us with 1 GGRP, 1 BGRP, and 3 PJBs living right now. This makes perfect sense given the outstanding claims we have.

 

[Witz]

Great point you've made there EG but I'm obviously biased.

 

[Hodor]

We have 5 dead revealed GGRPs, 7 BGRPs, 19 PJs, 2 ?? (Bender, Acer) and 2 neutral/indy (Bell, IB.)

I have to assume there's only 1 BGRP left. If there were 2 left, that means they started with 9 (before adding Bell), which would mean that there were likely 9 GGRPs as well. We only have 5 revealed. If Acer and bender were both GGRPs, as I am guessing they were, that would leave two left and we only have 1 claimed. Doesn't make sense. If we started with :

8 GGRP

8 BGRP

1 INDY

1 NEUTRAL RP

22 PJBs

That would leave us with 1 GGRP, 1 BGRP, and 3 PJBs living right now. This makes perfect sense given the outstanding claims we have.

Nice, I think that makes complete sense.