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*** Official Indefinite Cincinnati Bengals Thread *** Who had "Bengals completely incompetent offense" on their bingo card? (2 Viewers)

Thought the other Burrow/contender thread was the official thread since I couldn’t find this one. Some chatter that they’re trying to get a Trey Hendrickson deal done. Lot of pressure on coaching, draft picks moving forward if so.
 
I believe we will keep Trey. I think he wants to stay, and I'm not sure that he is going to find what he's wanting in a trade situation.
 
Who would be a few guys we would love to get with the #17 pick? Like guys not expected to be there, but with an outside shot.

I would expect at least one of the top OL's Campbell, Membou, Banks to be there.

EDGE's Mike Green, Shemar Stewart, or Mykel Williams would have a shot to be there.

CB's Barron or Johnson, decent chance one of them is left.
 
There will be a good player at 17 for sure, but I wonder if moving back and gaining future picks might not be the right path to take, especially if we are signing Trey.

We will need to rely on good drafts in the future, and acquiring multiple players might be a good idea, especially to replace those we will not be able to afford later.

This all feels very un-Bengali, if that makes sense.
 
Who would be a few guys we would love to get with the #17 pick? Like guys not expected to be there, but with an outside shot.

I would expect at least one of the top OL's Campbell, Membou, Banks to be there.

EDGE's Mike Green, Shemar Stewart, or Mykel Williams would have a shot to be there.

CB's Barron or Johnson, decent chance one of them is left.

Love to see
Nolen, DT
2 safeties, SC kid and Starks should be there
Banks, Texas T
Will Johnson, CB....supposedly slipping

If Jalon Walker somehow slips, jump all over him

If they go Nolen 1st, trade up in 2nd to secure Dorian Strong, Va Tech or the cb from Notre Dame, Benjamin Morrison, who was a 1st rounder pre injury

Would be value and fill pressing needs as well
 
There will be a good player at 17 for sure, but I wonder if moving back and gaining future picks might not be the right path to take, especially if we are signing Trey.

We will need to rely on good drafts in the future, and acquiring multiple players might be a good idea, especially to replace those we will not be able to afford later.

This all feels very un-Bengali, if that makes sense.
I like the idea of trading back. We need every dart throw we can get to see if any cheap rookies can pan out on defense.
 
Who would be a few guys we would love to get with the #17 pick? Like guys not expected to be there, but with an outside shot.

I would expect at least one of the top OL's Campbell, Membou, Banks to be there.

EDGE's Mike Green, Shemar Stewart, or Mykel Williams would have a shot to be there.

CB's Barron or Johnson, decent chance one of them is left.
Speaking from a fantasy owner bias, I was shocked how little time Burrow seems to have on a lot of passing plays. I know you guys need defense, but this guy is your franchise and needs to be protected. Maybe a first round OL and the rest of the draft on defense?
 
Who would be a few guys we would love to get with the #17 pick? Like guys not expected to be there, but with an outside shot.

I would expect at least one of the top OL's Campbell, Membou, Banks to be there.

EDGE's Mike Green, Shemar Stewart, or Mykel Williams would have a shot to be there.

CB's Barron or Johnson, decent chance one of them is left.
Speaking from a fantasy owner bias, I was shocked how little time Burrow seems to have on a lot of passing plays. I know you guys need defense, but this guy is your franchise and needs to be protected. Maybe a first round OL and the rest of the draft on defense?
That is exactly what I hope happens. And it's not like we haven't made efforts to improve the o-line since the atrocity we had in the Super Bowl season. We've signed several free agents who were supposed to be pretty decent. It's better, but it still seems like we're just treading water on that front. At least one OL in the first three rounds I certainly expect, and I hope it's the first round.
 
Mykel Williams no longer on the list of in-person attendees. Not sure if that means he is sliding but found that interesting.

Feels like the first and second round would be some combo of D-line and O-line. Unless an inexplicable talent fell that makes them go best on board.

Moving around the board is very unlike us for sure. Not sure how much they would like to move behind a division rival like Pittsburgh but if the value lines up I don't think I would mind and long at it isn't a Steven Jackson/Chris Perry redux

Would like to see them sign Risner to open up the possibilities in the draft a little more

-QG
 
Mykel Williams no longer on the list of in-person attendees. Not sure if that means he is sliding but found that interesting.

Feels like the first and second round would be some combo of D-line and O-line. Unless an inexplicable talent fell that makes them go best on board.

Moving around the board is very unlike us for sure. Not sure how much they would like to move behind a division rival like Pittsburgh but if the value lines up I don't think I would mind and long at it isn't a Steven Jackson/Chris Perry redux

Would like to see them sign Risner to open up the possibilities in the draft a little more

-QG
This is what I was talking about - being very un-Bengal-like. However, we are in a different situation than usual for our Bengals. We could be in a perfect spot for a team to move back up to get a quarterback. Maybe Sanders or Dart falls. A QB-needy team wants to trade back in and get in front of the Steelers to get Sanders or Dart. We could get a decent haul for a situation like that. I think there is a good chance that Quarterbacks go earlier than expected this year, even with a Quarterback class that is not highly thought of. People are going to remember the Falcons taking Penix earlier than expected. It should be a fun first round, the later it gets in the first round.
 
Shemar Stewart already disputing contract details

In other shocking news, the sun rose again today ...

ETA I shouldn't judge him without knowing what it's about exactly, but I thought rookie contracts were usually pretty cut-and-dry. 🤷‍♂️

Apparently, the Bengals changed the wording on their rookie contract language that if he got injured in practice the Bengals could void his contract. He's asking for the team to revert to the previous language of past draft picks.


Now, however, the dispute has shifted toward contract language that appears to be materially different from deals given to Cincinnati's previous first-round picks. According to a source, the conflict stems from wording that could potentially affect the guaranteed money on the rookie deals, which would set a precedent for future Bengals contracts.

Last year, Bengals offensive tackle Amarius Mims participated in workouts without a signed contract. A source familiar with that negotiation indicated that Mims took on zero contractual risk before he signed with the team.
 
Bengals cutting Peart as expected. $5.85 to hopefully put into a Trey extension. While his play fell off last year he had a lot of big moments for us and I really appreciate him for that.
-QG
 
Re-entering the draft isn’t a viable option for Shemar Stewart
...Whether that means Stewart eventually will blink and agree to the team’s new default language remains to be seen. If he’s going to do it, he needs to get any and all gripes about the team out of his system before he puts pen to paper.
After he signs, he’ll risk his future guarantees if he dares to “make any public comment
. . . that breaches Player’s obligation of loyalty to Club and/or undermines the public’s respect for the Club, Club coaches, or Club management.”
So air your grievances now, Shemar. Once you’re under contract, the Bengals will be squatting on your First Amendment rights.
NFL Rookie Report: TreVeyon Henderson set to shine in Patriots' backfield

Not a good sign for Shemar Stewart

Bengals rookie Shemar Stewart might already have the team questioning whether they made a mistake taking him 17th overall in the 2025 NFL Draft. He’s one of the rare rookies refusing to sign an injury waiver while his contract gets finalized. That decision is reigniting the biggest red flag from his draft profile: how badly does he want to be great? Despite being one of the most gifted athletes in college football, Stewart never recorded more than 1.5 sacks in a season.
 
Re-entering the draft isn’t a viable option for Shemar Stewart
...Whether that means Stewart eventually will blink and agree to the team’s new default language remains to be seen. If he’s going to do it, he needs to get any and all gripes about the team out of his system before he puts pen to paper.
After he signs, he’ll risk his future guarantees if he dares to “make any public comment
. . . that breaches Player’s obligation of loyalty to Club and/or undermines the public’s respect for the Club, Club coaches, or Club management.”
So air your grievances now, Shemar. Once you’re under contract, the Bengals will be squatting on your First Amendment rights.
NFL Rookie Report: TreVeyon Henderson set to shine in Patriots' backfield

Not a good sign for Shemar Stewart

Bengals rookie Shemar Stewart might already have the team questioning whether they made a mistake taking him 17th overall in the 2025 NFL Draft. He’s one of the rare rookies refusing to sign an injury waiver while his contract gets finalized. That decision is reigniting the biggest red flag from his draft profile: how badly does he want to be great? Despite being one of the most gifted athletes in college football, Stewart never recorded more than 1.5 sacks in a season.
since the Bengals would be his employer and not the government, 1st amendment has nothing to do with anything. not sure who this Smathers person is, but now I know to not pay attention to them.
 
Re-entering the draft isn’t a viable option for Shemar Stewart
...Whether that means Stewart eventually will blink and agree to the team’s new default language remains to be seen. If he’s going to do it, he needs to get any and all gripes about the team out of his system before he puts pen to paper.
After he signs, he’ll risk his future guarantees if he dares to “make any public comment
. . . that breaches Player’s obligation of loyalty to Club and/or undermines the public’s respect for the Club, Club coaches, or Club management.”
So air your grievances now, Shemar. Once you’re under contract, the Bengals will be squatting on your First Amendment rights.
NFL Rookie Report: TreVeyon Henderson set to shine in Patriots' backfield

Not a good sign for Shemar Stewart

Bengals rookie Shemar Stewart might already have the team questioning whether they made a mistake taking him 17th overall in the 2025 NFL Draft. He’s one of the rare rookies refusing to sign an injury waiver while his contract gets finalized. That decision is reigniting the biggest red flag from his draft profile: how badly does he want to be great? Despite being one of the most gifted athletes in college football, Stewart never recorded more than 1.5 sacks in a season.
since the Bengals would be his employer and not the government, 1st amendment has nothing to do with anything. not sure who this Smathers person is, but now I know to not pay attention to them.

Well, it is the Bengals, so anything is possible
And you will have to be cooler than the above to stick around on this board
 
The NFL needs to step in and create uniform contract language. The Bengals are a bush league organization trying to pull this crap on this kid.
 
What an amazing week for the Bengals, even by their standards you have to stand back in awe of what is unfolding at the moment in Cincinnati

-First, let's start with the team cutting their Captain on Defense, and they could have released him much earlier in the off season and chose not to.
Regardless of your personal opinion and I'm sure Bengals' fans dismiss this move and don't think about it all that much but it sure sends a clear message to other players or anyone thinking of signing with this team...not that the NFLPA hasn't alerted everyone already

-Next! I could have saved Trey Hendrickson a lot of time and energy by simply pointing out how the Bengals made Burrow go thru August camps and injure his calf before they finally get his extension done, Hurts and Herbert were extended months prior to Burrow. Then you have Chase and Higgins, BOTH of them should have been extended at the 36 month timeline, 3 years after they signed their rookie deals, Higgins had to play on a franchise tag, Chase had to play on Year 4, as an example the Miami Dolphins extended Waddle in the same Draft class well before Chase, almost an entire year+

-Finally, and this one takes the cake. They put wording into rookie Shemar Stewart's deal that no other rookie had in their contract and now they have angered him to the point where he decides to RIP the front office a new one and says the leaders on that team support him...Burrow-Chase-Higgins-Hendrickson, they all must have told him you better get it up front or you won't get it.
The wording involves $$$ and Stewart not getting all his guaranteed money if the Bengals were to release him in Year 2-3-4 whenever...no other rookie was asked to do this


SMH

-Traveling thru the Smokies, saw this unfold while I'm on the road and had to chime in
Good job Cincinnati!

It has been such a strange offseason. The Shemar Stuart contract, which I understand the two sides of the situation in theory, but I have no idea why the Bengals chose this player and this year to start wanting this language in the rookie contracts. Is there that much at risk in terms of guarantees in rookie contracts? Trey's situation is different for sure, but understandable. I also get both sides on this situation, but make a decision already. The Bengals could have traded Trey, but did not, which shows they want to keep him. I understand he signed his contract, but the market went crazy, and he has outplayed his contract, in my opinion. A player who is that unhappy most likely will be a problem either on the field or off if you keep him on his current deal. Trade him or give him a future for which to play. Trey worries he won't make it to free agency with the Bengals. I can see the fear of a tag down the line. Each year he gets older, the more he stands to lose. The Bengals feel he signed his deal, and that is the contract. What happened behind closed doors in negotiations will never be known.

As a fan, I do not like all the distractions, and I do not think this helps the Bengals with future free agents or even rookies. Just wait for a rookie to tell the Bengals. Do not draft me. I do not want to play for your team or your ownership.

Just put the best team on the field, as a Bengal fan, that is what I want. :)
"I understand the two sides of the situation in theory"

Explain because I don't understand and the Bengals tried to word something that 31 other 1st round picks did not have to endure or read thru on their contracts
I've said this before and I will post it again, the Bengals should not be given the benefit of the doubt any more, this is Joe Burrow entering Year 6?
You put Burrow on a lot of other teams that are run well and are good organizations and he might already have a ring or at least have a strong OL in front of him

The Bengals are just wasting time and years with Hall of Fame players
HoF track for Chase and Burrow , the QB and WR1 on an offense are both likely to make it when they are done in the NFL, maybe its too early but the Bengals are not taking advantage of it
They are squandering and watching that window close a little more with each and every season that passes.

And while I am making list of grievances, what is up with Zac Taylor, B2B 9-8 seasons, how long does he get to keep his job?
They let Marvin Lewis stay way too long and got very little in the way of results, Taylor did appear in a Super Bowl that likely makes him all but a lifer following Lewis and his run of mediocrity

The NFL needs to step in and create uniform contract language. The Bengals are a bush league organization trying to pull this crap on this kid.
First two quotes are from MoP's thread about the Bengals.
Third quote from this thread.

This quote from a news article:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spo...ds-to-be-in-camp/X42RPF4LERGLVGWFXNVEQ5LBTY/#
Stewart spoke candidly about his concerns with the contract during the final week of the team’s offseason workout program, when he said he just wants the language in his contract to mirror that of Cincinnati’s previous two first-round picks, Myles Murphy and Amarius Mims, who both went later than him in their respective draft years.

The language has to do with future guarantees that could be voided if he is suspended for on- or off-field issues. Cincinnati has not added such language in the past, but it has become standard with other teams around the league.
Can someone verify what the truth is? Some people have some crow to eat if this article is correct.
 
What an amazing week for the Bengals, even by their standards you have to stand back in awe of what is unfolding at the moment in Cincinnati

-First, let's start with the team cutting their Captain on Defense, and they could have released him much earlier in the off season and chose not to.
Regardless of your personal opinion and I'm sure Bengals' fans dismiss this move and don't think about it all that much but it sure sends a clear message to other players or anyone thinking of signing with this team...not that the NFLPA hasn't alerted everyone already

-Next! I could have saved Trey Hendrickson a lot of time and energy by simply pointing out how the Bengals made Burrow go thru August camps and injure his calf before they finally get his extension done, Hurts and Herbert were extended months prior to Burrow. Then you have Chase and Higgins, BOTH of them should have been extended at the 36 month timeline, 3 years after they signed their rookie deals, Higgins had to play on a franchise tag, Chase had to play on Year 4, as an example the Miami Dolphins extended Waddle in the same Draft class well before Chase, almost an entire year+

-Finally, and this one takes the cake. They put wording into rookie Shemar Stewart's deal that no other rookie had in their contract and now they have angered him to the point where he decides to RIP the front office a new one and says the leaders on that team support him...Burrow-Chase-Higgins-Hendrickson, they all must have told him you better get it up front or you won't get it.
The wording involves $$$ and Stewart not getting all his guaranteed money if the Bengals were to release him in Year 2-3-4 whenever...no other rookie was asked to do this


SMH

-Traveling thru the Smokies, saw this unfold while I'm on the road and had to chime in
Good job Cincinnati!

It has been such a strange offseason. The Shemar Stuart contract, which I understand the two sides of the situation in theory, but I have no idea why the Bengals chose this player and this year to start wanting this language in the rookie contracts. Is there that much at risk in terms of guarantees in rookie contracts? Trey's situation is different for sure, but understandable. I also get both sides on this situation, but make a decision already. The Bengals could have traded Trey, but did not, which shows they want to keep him. I understand he signed his contract, but the market went crazy, and he has outplayed his contract, in my opinion. A player who is that unhappy most likely will be a problem either on the field or off if you keep him on his current deal. Trade him or give him a future for which to play. Trey worries he won't make it to free agency with the Bengals. I can see the fear of a tag down the line. Each year he gets older, the more he stands to lose. The Bengals feel he signed his deal, and that is the contract. What happened behind closed doors in negotiations will never be known.

As a fan, I do not like all the distractions, and I do not think this helps the Bengals with future free agents or even rookies. Just wait for a rookie to tell the Bengals. Do not draft me. I do not want to play for your team or your ownership.

Just put the best team on the field, as a Bengal fan, that is what I want. :)
"I understand the two sides of the situation in theory"

Explain because I don't understand and the Bengals tried to word something that 31 other 1st round picks did not have to endure or read thru on their contracts
I've said this before and I will post it again, the Bengals should not be given the benefit of the doubt any more, this is Joe Burrow entering Year 6?
You put Burrow on a lot of other teams that are run well and are good organizations and he might already have a ring or at least have a strong OL in front of him

The Bengals are just wasting time and years with Hall of Fame players
HoF track for Chase and Burrow , the QB and WR1 on an offense are both likely to make it when they are done in the NFL, maybe its too early but the Bengals are not taking advantage of it
They are squandering and watching that window close a little more with each and every season that passes.

And while I am making list of grievances, what is up with Zac Taylor, B2B 9-8 seasons, how long does he get to keep his job?
They let Marvin Lewis stay way too long and got very little in the way of results, Taylor did appear in a Super Bowl that likely makes him all but a lifer following Lewis and his run of mediocrity

The NFL needs to step in and create uniform contract language. The Bengals are a bush league organization trying to pull this crap on this kid.
First two quotes are from MoP's thread about the Bengals.
Third quote from this thread.

This quote from a news article:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spo...ds-to-be-in-camp/X42RPF4LERGLVGWFXNVEQ5LBTY/#
Stewart spoke candidly about his concerns with the contract during the final week of the team’s offseason workout program, when he said he just wants the language in his contract to mirror that of Cincinnati’s previous two first-round picks, Myles Murphy and Amarius Mims, who both went later than him in their respective draft years.

The language has to do with future guarantees that could be voided if he is suspended for on- or off-field issues. Cincinnati has not added such language in the past, but it has become standard with other teams around the league.
Can someone verify what the truth is? Some people have some crow to eat if this article is correct.
Or perhaps the other 50 writers that were publishing all this stuff earlier in the off season, it wasn't made up dungeons and dragons
 
What an amazing week for the Bengals, even by their standards you have to stand back in awe of what is unfolding at the moment in Cincinnati

-First, let's start with the team cutting their Captain on Defense, and they could have released him much earlier in the off season and chose not to.
Regardless of your personal opinion and I'm sure Bengals' fans dismiss this move and don't think about it all that much but it sure sends a clear message to other players or anyone thinking of signing with this team...not that the NFLPA hasn't alerted everyone already

-Next! I could have saved Trey Hendrickson a lot of time and energy by simply pointing out how the Bengals made Burrow go thru August camps and injure his calf before they finally get his extension done, Hurts and Herbert were extended months prior to Burrow. Then you have Chase and Higgins, BOTH of them should have been extended at the 36 month timeline, 3 years after they signed their rookie deals, Higgins had to play on a franchise tag, Chase had to play on Year 4, as an example the Miami Dolphins extended Waddle in the same Draft class well before Chase, almost an entire year+

-Finally, and this one takes the cake. They put wording into rookie Shemar Stewart's deal that no other rookie had in their contract and now they have angered him to the point where he decides to RIP the front office a new one and says the leaders on that team support him...Burrow-Chase-Higgins-Hendrickson, they all must have told him you better get it up front or you won't get it.
The wording involves $$$ and Stewart not getting all his guaranteed money if the Bengals were to release him in Year 2-3-4 whenever...no other rookie was asked to do this


SMH

-Traveling thru the Smokies, saw this unfold while I'm on the road and had to chime in
Good job Cincinnati!

It has been such a strange offseason. The Shemar Stuart contract, which I understand the two sides of the situation in theory, but I have no idea why the Bengals chose this player and this year to start wanting this language in the rookie contracts. Is there that much at risk in terms of guarantees in rookie contracts? Trey's situation is different for sure, but understandable. I also get both sides on this situation, but make a decision already. The Bengals could have traded Trey, but did not, which shows they want to keep him. I understand he signed his contract, but the market went crazy, and he has outplayed his contract, in my opinion. A player who is that unhappy most likely will be a problem either on the field or off if you keep him on his current deal. Trade him or give him a future for which to play. Trey worries he won't make it to free agency with the Bengals. I can see the fear of a tag down the line. Each year he gets older, the more he stands to lose. The Bengals feel he signed his deal, and that is the contract. What happened behind closed doors in negotiations will never be known.

As a fan, I do not like all the distractions, and I do not think this helps the Bengals with future free agents or even rookies. Just wait for a rookie to tell the Bengals. Do not draft me. I do not want to play for your team or your ownership.

Just put the best team on the field, as a Bengal fan, that is what I want. :)
"I understand the two sides of the situation in theory"

Explain because I don't understand and the Bengals tried to word something that 31 other 1st round picks did not have to endure or read thru on their contracts
I've said this before and I will post it again, the Bengals should not be given the benefit of the doubt any more, this is Joe Burrow entering Year 6?
You put Burrow on a lot of other teams that are run well and are good organizations and he might already have a ring or at least have a strong OL in front of him

The Bengals are just wasting time and years with Hall of Fame players
HoF track for Chase and Burrow , the QB and WR1 on an offense are both likely to make it when they are done in the NFL, maybe its too early but the Bengals are not taking advantage of it
They are squandering and watching that window close a little more with each and every season that passes.

And while I am making list of grievances, what is up with Zac Taylor, B2B 9-8 seasons, how long does he get to keep his job?
They let Marvin Lewis stay way too long and got very little in the way of results, Taylor did appear in a Super Bowl that likely makes him all but a lifer following Lewis and his run of mediocrity

The NFL needs to step in and create uniform contract language. The Bengals are a bush league organization trying to pull this crap on this kid.
First two quotes are from MoP's thread about the Bengals.
Third quote from this thread.

This quote from a news article:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spo...ds-to-be-in-camp/X42RPF4LERGLVGWFXNVEQ5LBTY/#
Stewart spoke candidly about his concerns with the contract during the final week of the team’s offseason workout program, when he said he just wants the language in his contract to mirror that of Cincinnati’s previous two first-round picks, Myles Murphy and Amarius Mims, who both went later than him in their respective draft years.

The language has to do with future guarantees that could be voided if he is suspended for on- or off-field issues. Cincinnati has not added such language in the past, but it has become standard with other teams around the league.
Can someone verify what the truth is? Some people have some crow to eat if this article is correct.
Or perhaps the other 50 writers that were publishing all this stuff earlier in the off season, it wasn't made up dungeons and dragons
Sounds like the Bengals are not doing anything other teams have not done. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/7/...cutive-sides-with-bengals-amid-rookie-holdout
 
What an amazing week for the Bengals, even by their standards you have to stand back in awe of what is unfolding at the moment in Cincinnati

-First, let's start with the team cutting their Captain on Defense, and they could have released him much earlier in the off season and chose not to.
Regardless of your personal opinion and I'm sure Bengals' fans dismiss this move and don't think about it all that much but it sure sends a clear message to other players or anyone thinking of signing with this team...not that the NFLPA hasn't alerted everyone already

-Next! I could have saved Trey Hendrickson a lot of time and energy by simply pointing out how the Bengals made Burrow go thru August camps and injure his calf before they finally get his extension done, Hurts and Herbert were extended months prior to Burrow. Then you have Chase and Higgins, BOTH of them should have been extended at the 36 month timeline, 3 years after they signed their rookie deals, Higgins had to play on a franchise tag, Chase had to play on Year 4, as an example the Miami Dolphins extended Waddle in the same Draft class well before Chase, almost an entire year+

-Finally, and this one takes the cake. They put wording into rookie Shemar Stewart's deal that no other rookie had in their contract and now they have angered him to the point where he decides to RIP the front office a new one and says the leaders on that team support him...Burrow-Chase-Higgins-Hendrickson, they all must have told him you better get it up front or you won't get it.
The wording involves $$$ and Stewart not getting all his guaranteed money if the Bengals were to release him in Year 2-3-4 whenever...no other rookie was asked to do this


SMH

-Traveling thru the Smokies, saw this unfold while I'm on the road and had to chime in
Good job Cincinnati!

It has been such a strange offseason. The Shemar Stuart contract, which I understand the two sides of the situation in theory, but I have no idea why the Bengals chose this player and this year to start wanting this language in the rookie contracts. Is there that much at risk in terms of guarantees in rookie contracts? Trey's situation is different for sure, but understandable. I also get both sides on this situation, but make a decision already. The Bengals could have traded Trey, but did not, which shows they want to keep him. I understand he signed his contract, but the market went crazy, and he has outplayed his contract, in my opinion. A player who is that unhappy most likely will be a problem either on the field or off if you keep him on his current deal. Trade him or give him a future for which to play. Trey worries he won't make it to free agency with the Bengals. I can see the fear of a tag down the line. Each year he gets older, the more he stands to lose. The Bengals feel he signed his deal, and that is the contract. What happened behind closed doors in negotiations will never be known.

As a fan, I do not like all the distractions, and I do not think this helps the Bengals with future free agents or even rookies. Just wait for a rookie to tell the Bengals. Do not draft me. I do not want to play for your team or your ownership.

Just put the best team on the field, as a Bengal fan, that is what I want. :)
"I understand the two sides of the situation in theory"

Explain because I don't understand and the Bengals tried to word something that 31 other 1st round picks did not have to endure or read thru on their contracts
I've said this before and I will post it again, the Bengals should not be given the benefit of the doubt any more, this is Joe Burrow entering Year 6?
You put Burrow on a lot of other teams that are run well and are good organizations and he might already have a ring or at least have a strong OL in front of him

The Bengals are just wasting time and years with Hall of Fame players
HoF track for Chase and Burrow , the QB and WR1 on an offense are both likely to make it when they are done in the NFL, maybe its too early but the Bengals are not taking advantage of it
They are squandering and watching that window close a little more with each and every season that passes.

And while I am making list of grievances, what is up with Zac Taylor, B2B 9-8 seasons, how long does he get to keep his job?
They let Marvin Lewis stay way too long and got very little in the way of results, Taylor did appear in a Super Bowl that likely makes him all but a lifer following Lewis and his run of mediocrity

The NFL needs to step in and create uniform contract language. The Bengals are a bush league organization trying to pull this crap on this kid.
First two quotes are from MoP's thread about the Bengals.
Third quote from this thread.

This quote from a news article:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spo...ds-to-be-in-camp/X42RPF4LERGLVGWFXNVEQ5LBTY/#
Stewart spoke candidly about his concerns with the contract during the final week of the team’s offseason workout program, when he said he just wants the language in his contract to mirror that of Cincinnati’s previous two first-round picks, Myles Murphy and Amarius Mims, who both went later than him in their respective draft years.

The language has to do with future guarantees that could be voided if he is suspended for on- or off-field issues. Cincinnati has not added such language in the past, but it has become standard with other teams around the league.
Can someone verify what the truth is? Some people have some crow to eat if this article is correct.
Or perhaps the other 50 writers that were publishing all this stuff earlier in the off season, it wasn't made up dungeons and dragons
Sounds like the Bengals are not doing anything other teams have not done. https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/7/...cutive-sides-with-bengals-amid-rookie-holdout
Stewart is the one if I recall who had the ress conference and said it himself...now if he lied then that's on him
Also i think these quotes are form a different thread that has a different purpose than this one
I don't want to get into a tug of war about it
 
Yeah it is a hold-in with Trey.

Funny with Stewart that it was all about principle - the going rate of which is and extra $500,000 in guaranteed money. But he is in in time with camp so hopefully he sets about proving doubters wrong.

When the Bengals finally get a deal done with Trey the Florios out there will just move the goal posts again just like when people said they would never keep Tee and then pivoted immediately to the Bengals having too much money invested in receivers after they did in fact keep him.

Moss ending up cut - perhaps they didn't love what he said on the interview he did recently or perhaps they like enough of what they see from Tahj that they figured they could get along without him. Things sorta ended up where they were expected ahead of the off-season (Moss getting cut). Brown is looking to be the bell cow that he was at Illinois.

Fingers crossed that we keep healthy during camp.

-QG
 
from the sporting news....."Per Jordan Schultz, three teams have emerged as suitors for Hendrickson. His sources have said the Panthers, Browns and Colts have all inquired with the Bengals about what a Hendrickson trade could look like. "

where #### are my patriots in this sitch? nowhere apparently.
:kicksrock:

edited to add: I'm slow....but how could the Browns possibly be Hendrickson suitors with the money given to Watson and Garrett?
 
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This is such ham-fisted team management.

Where is John Malkovich when they need him most? (Bad Russian accent) “Pay that man his money”

Bengals need all the defensive help they can get. Pay your best defensive player. This ain’t rocket science.

That said, as a Ja’Marr Chase shareholder in one league and a Joe Burrow shareholder in another, by all means get into as many shootouts as humanly possible.
:wub:
 
This is such ham-fisted team management.

Where is John Malkovich when they need him most? (Bad Russian accent) “Pay that man his money”

Bengals need all the defensive help they can get. Pay your best defensive player. This ain’t rocket science.

That said, as a Ja’Marr Chase shareholder in one league and a Joe Burrow shareholder in another, by all means get into as many shootouts as humanly possible.
:wub:
Depends how much he's asking. If it's just unreasonable: next man up!
 
This is such ham-fisted team management.

Where is John Malkovich when they need him most? (Bad Russian accent) “Pay that man his money”

Bengals need all the defensive help they can get. Pay your best defensive player. This ain’t rocket science.

That said, as a Ja’Marr Chase shareholder in one league and a Joe Burrow shareholder in another, by all means get into as many shootouts as humanly possible.
:wub:
Depends how much he's asking. If it's just unreasonable: next man up!

What's reasonable for a guy who led the league in sacks and was ranked 8th according to PFF grades for DEs?
 
This is such ham-fisted team management.

Where is John Malkovich when they need him most? (Bad Russian accent) “Pay that man his money”

Bengals need all the defensive help they can get. Pay your best defensive player. This ain’t rocket science.

That said, as a Ja’Marr Chase shareholder in one league and a Joe Burrow shareholder in another, by all means get into as many shootouts as humanly possible.
:wub:
Depends how much he's asking. If it's just unreasonable: next man up!

What's reasonable for a guy who led the league in sacks and was ranked 8th according to PFF grades for DEs?
No idea, I don't pay a lot of attention to contract amounts, other than star offensive players for fantasy implications. I also don't know what he's asking or if that's even public.
 
What's reasonable for a guy who led the league in sacks and was ranked 8th according to PFF grades for DEs?
Maxx got 3/106 with 62M guaranteed

At 30 maybe 80% of that on a 2-year? Like 2/60 with 28 guaranteed?
:shrug:

Danielle Hunter just got a 1 year extension at $35.6M for 2026 (his age 32 season). He's guaranteed $48M over the next two seasons. You think a younger Hendrickson should take $20M less guaranteed? At the very minimum Hendrickson is looking at probably 2 years/$70M (with $50M guaranteed) which is in-line with Hunter's numbers. But, I don't see why he would/should accept 80% of what Crosby got. In fact, Crosby's deal would be what the Bengals should give Hendrickson, 3/106 (60M+ guaranteed).
 
They apparently are close (I'm reading as in agreement) on total $ number and years, but it's the guaranteed money past the first year that's the sticking point.
 

Bengals are asking legends to pay for their own flight and hotel to attend ring of honor ceremony

The Bengals are cheaper than a 99 cent store.
by James Dator
Aug 22, 2025, 7:09 AM PDT

Boomer Esiason read his invite to the Bengals’ ring of honor ceremony verbatim during his episode of Boomer & Gio on Friday morning, and it’s more mind-boggling than you can possibly imagine.

1. Former players will need to pay for their own flights to Cincinnati
2. They were told to “RSVP quickly” to ensure they have a discount code for a hotel room, which they still need to pay for
3. The players are only given two tickets to Jets vs. Bengals, with the option to purchase more
4. They had one day to respond to the team and say whether they’re going
5. The tickets aren’t even for a box, just in the stadium stands

Keep in mind that this isn’t some mass email that went out to hundreds of former players. It only went to the EIGHT living members currently in the ring of honor. Those players are:

Boomer Esiason
Corey Dillon
Tim Krumrie
Chad Johnson
Willie Anderson
Isaac Curtis
Ken Anderson
Anthony Muñoz

Boomer said he’s not sure he’s going to attend given the details and joked that Aaron Glenn might let him tag along on the Jets flight out of New York so he doesn’t need to pay for airfare. Of this list of guys sure, some made a lot of money playing in the NFL like Chad Johnson, but veterans who played in the 1970s and 80s didn’t make ludicrous money playing in the league.

None of that should matter though, because this is an entirely new level of cheap. Asking players to book their own rooms with a discount code is simply insulting, and it’s ridiculous that this franchise keeps existing without a change in ownership.
 

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