*Official* - Jeremy Langford (1 Viewer)

[VikingFrog]

Please sit out one more week, Forte

Or the season.

 

[Faust]

Next Gen Stats: Slow WRs behind Packers' woes

Excerpt:

2. With Matt Forte due to reach free agency as a 30-year-old tailback, rookie Jeremy Langford is staking his claim to the 2016 starting job in Chicago with 324 yards from scrimmage over the past two weeks. Langford reached 20.66 mph on his 83-yard catch-and-run, the fastest speed recorded by a Bears ball carrier this season.

 

[travdogg]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.

Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

 

[Tool]

(Rotoworld)Bears coach John Fox said the running back rotation will be "tricky" once Matt Forte (knee) returns.

Analysis: "I donÂ’t like speculating," Fox said. "I know weÂ’re doing everything we can here to create competition amongst our team and learn to enjoy it. So weÂ’ll cross that bridge when it happens." Jeremy Langford has acquitted himself well the last two weeks, and Forte is soon to be an unrestricted free agent who is unlikely to re-sign in Chicago. The Bears still have faint designs on a playoff berth, but once those evaporate there will be little reason to run Forte into the ground. There is no chance Forte disappears from the offense or even plays second fiddle, but his days hogging 75 percent of the running back touches may be finished.

 

[travdogg]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays.

I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

 

[JuniorNB]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays.

I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

 

[Sebowski]

(Rotoworld)Bears coach John Fox said the running back rotation will be "tricky" once Matt Forte (knee) returns.

Analysis: "I donÂ’t like speculating," Fox said. "I know weÂ’re doing everything we can here to create competition amongst our team and learn to enjoy it. So weÂ’ll cross that bridge when it happens." Jeremy Langford has acquitted himself well the last two weeks, and Forte is soon to be an unrestricted free agent who is unlikely to re-sign in Chicago. The Bears still have faint designs on a playoff berth, but once those evaporate there will be little reason to run Forte into the ground. There is no chance Forte disappears from the offense or even plays second fiddle, but his days hogging 75 percent of the running back touches may be finished.

I think they have this backwards. If the season is lost wouldn't they rather run down the guy out the door then put more wear on the new kid? Once they are out of it I see Langford stealing more touches, but Forte will still be the guy until he turns in his jersey.

 

[dcgangstas]

I'd expect a slight reduction in Forte's snaps upon his return, but not all that much.

Prior to the injury, Forte played 83.6% of the offensive snaps. And given that Foxy has always leaned on his veteran players, I'd anticipate something along the lines of a 70-30 split with Forte keeping the lion's share of the snaps.

Forte has to be aware that his heir apparent is in place for 2016, and that his days in Chicago are numbered. The team that he plays against in Week 11 (the Broncos) just happens to be a great fit for his skills. Forte will have a lot of incentive to play and play well on Sunday.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

This is why JL has his biggest value in keeper/dynasty.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays.

I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers?

This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

"heir apparent"

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4700855/five-things-to-know-about-bears-rookie-sensation-jeremy-langford

Numbers.

- His 109 receiving yards versus the Rams were the most ever by a Bears rookie in one game.

- Langford is one of three Bears running backs to finish a game with at least 100 yards receiving, one receiving touchdown and one rushing touchdown. Can you guess the other two? Don’t think too hard: Hall of Famers Walter Payton and Gale Sayers. That’s elite company.

- Langford’s 83-yard receiving touchdown inside the Edward Jones Dome was the fourth-longest reception by a running back in franchise history ...

- Langford also became just the third rookie in NFL history with at least 70 rushing yards, one touchdown run, 100 receiving yards and a touchdown catch in the same game ...

But the most important numbers to consider for dynasty purposes going forward are these:

- Bargain price: As a fourth-round pick, Langford signed a four-year, $2,823,624 contract that included a signing bonus of $543,624. Langford is set to earn $525,000 next year and count just $660,906 against the Bears’ salary cap. Forte, by comparison, is taking up $9.2 million worth of salary cap space in 2015, plus grossing a base salary of $7.05 million.

 

[JuniorNB]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays.

I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers?

This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

Forte owner

 

[SayWhat?]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays. I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers? This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

Forte owner

Or eyeballs, one of the two.

FYI - I have one share of Langford and none of Forte.

 

[JuniorNB]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays. I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers? This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

Forte owner

Or eyeballs, one of the two.

FYI - I have one share of Langford and none of Forte.

I contend that all the Oakland defenders were in the box and anyone could have made Peterson's 80 yard run. And all of his other long runs. Because he's hardly touched. And that all other NFL backs could have made Langford's diving catch against San Diego.

This happens every time an older back goes down and the replacement looks much quicker and, frankly, better than he did. You get the 'small sample size' argument. Well of course it's a small sample size. But it doesn't take an NFL scout to see that Langford has played great. In a redraft, the Bears are likely to show loyalty to Forte and I could see a 60/40 split in his favor. But Langford has made the offseason decision for the Bears very easy.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays.


I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers?

This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

This is a fair assessment and mostly accurate - I'm not sure if "most" backs take that all the way - Langford has good speed - but sure it wasn't any kind of extraordinary play.

I don't think anyone is going to say he's going to have a Forte level career path after two games. History tells us two amazing games does not a career make (i.e. Bryce Brown), but there's no denying he's playing very well and to say he isn't consistent seems a little strange (I know you weren't the one who said that). Every back is going to get stuffed on some plays. Every back is going to miss a cutback lane sometimes. Is that a lack of consistency or the nature of the beast. On the flipside, not many backs are going to make the big plays he's made either. There's a reason why 300 plus yards and 3 TDs in two consecutive games doesn't happen often.

 

[SayWhat?]

At least 50/50 split even if Forte returns?

As a Bears fan, I'd say that is highly unlikely. Don't forget that a healthy Forte is one of the best, most versatile, RB's in the NFL. I'd say 70-30 in favor of Forte. Langford has some nice big plays, but hasn't been consistent and doesn't seem to be anything special as an inside runner. I thought Carey has looked better as an interior runner. Most of Langford's fantasy value has been receiving, and he's certainly not taking touches from Forte there.Forte is likely an immediate RB1 once he returns, Langford would become a flex at best.

Long term, Langford has made an interesting case for the starting job next year, though the Bears may extend Forte for another year or two, leadership is something that John Fox is as big of a believer in as any coach in the NFL, and Forte is arguably the heart and soul of this offense, and maybe entire team.

324 total yards and 3 TDs in two games as a starter but he "hasn't been consistent"? What were you expecting?

I'm not talking about the stats, I'm talking about the plays themselves. He's been a very boom or bust RB, who has had several booms, but that has never been a type of RB John Fox has preferred, and some of those plays, like his TD catch against the Rams were fluky plays. I like Langford, but 2 good games isn't anywhere near enough to make me think he's as good as Forte, not by a longshot.

The great players seem to make a lot of "fluky plays". Why is that? Adrian Peterson always seems to bust through the line, then go untouched for 80 yard runs. He is so darn lucky

Guess Zach Miller is a great player too. And Travis Benjamin and Charcandrick West are future Hall of Famers? This tired argument has been made in the Forte thread also, comparing the fact that Adrian Peterson has big plays to the one that Langford had. Not really the same when you have been doing it for nearly a decade as compared to one play, that was a perfect play call against a blitz, that happened to be executed to perfection. It was basically a catch and sprint. Nice job securing the pass, and great speed to get the end zone, but not in any was as spectacular as it lokos in a box score. I am not trying to take anything away from what Langford has done, but that one play was very clearly the result of more than Langord's athleticism or ability. It was a perfect play call at that moment. I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

He showed great speed and there is no denying his numbers over the past 2 games, but it may be prudent to give him a bit more time before comparing him to a proven guy like Matt Forte. We have seen 2 games. 2 very good games, but still, just 2 games.

Forte owner

Or eyeballs, one of the two.

FYI - I have one share of Langford and none of Forte.

I contend that all the Oakland defenders were in the box and anyone could have made Peterson's 80 yard run. And all of his other long runs. Because he's hardly touched. And that all other NFL backs could have made Langford's diving catch against San Diego.

This happens every time an older back goes down and the replacement looks much quicker and, frankly, better than he did. You get the 'small sample size' argument. Well of course it's a small sample size. But it doesn't take an NFL scout to see that Langford has played great. In a redraft, the Bears are likely to show loyalty to Forte and I could see a 60/40 split in his favor. But Langford has made the offseason decision for the Bears very easy.

You're now arguing something completely different. You bolded the following:

I contend that most NFL caliber tail backs get the same 83 yards and a TD on that play that Langoford got, as long as they catch the ball.

That's an absolutely fair assessment of that one singular play in which Langford ran a psuedo wheel route. A play which seemingly had the defense a bit mixed up. It's extremely accurate that most NFL caliber tailbacks would've scored on that play. That has nothing to do with "taking away his long play." He scored, and looked fast doing so. But his skillset didn't make that play like Adrian Peterson's does on his 80 yard TD against a stacked Oakland box. If you disagree with that, then that's fine. Again, not arguing anything other than your "Forte owner" comment to the what you bolded as I agree with the bolded and I'm not a Forte owner.

 

[Faust]

Jeremy Langford to replace Matt Forte on 2016 Bears?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Forte seems resigned that he's gone next year.

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http://read:http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1116493/peoples-choice-matt-forte-worried-langford-surge

... Forte knows that’s what people are thinking...

...the 29-year-old Forte carrying a $9.2 million cap hit on the final year of his contract and the 23-year-old Langford carrying a $570,906 cap hit on the first year of a rookie contract, Forte knows ...

... With [me] being in my contract year, it’s obvious that that’s the storyline that will come up...

...that’s the nature of the NFL. And I don’t mind. I will play wherever I end up after that.”

Forte sat out Thursday’s practice at the indoor Payton Center after having practiced on a limited basis outdoors Wednesday.

He indicated that it is less likely he’ll play Sunday against the Broncos at Soldier Field, because the Bears play the Packers at Lambeau Field four days later on Thanksgiving night.

“I’ve got to play it smart,” he said...

... a decision on Forte. Who knows what Langford’s situation will be by then. Or Forte’s.

“I’m not really worried about it,” Forte said, “because I’ll be a free agent at the end of the year. I can continue my career no matter what happens.”

Not only does he see the writing on the wall he said he has to be smart about not rushing back from his injury too soon.

The genie is out of the bottle with RB Jeremy Langford so no need for Forte to rush back if he's not healthy and can't compete with Langford on an equal basis. Forte's best strategy is to sit until he's healthy but the last thing he needs it to rush back and re-injure his knee heading into the off-season where he very-likely could hit the open market.

 

[Team Smokin']

My only concern is the immediate future, which is this week only. Next week is another whole new ballgame. So, Bears homers or FBG's, what is the status of Forte this week? Does he sit this one out?

 

[Bracie Smathers]

My only concern is the immediate future, which is this week only. Next week is another whole new ballgame. So, Bears homers or FBG's, what is the status of Forte this week? Does he sit this one out?

Looks unlikely he plays Sunday because it appears he's targeting coming back for the Nationally televised Thanksgiving Day game.

From the above article:

"He indicated that it is less likely he’ll play Sunday against the Broncos at Soldier Field, because the Bears play the Packers at Lambeau Field four days later on Thanksgiving night.

“I’ve got to play it smart,” he said..."

​

 

[JuniorNB]

What are people's thoughts on Langford this week? He's looked great, but my concern is the Denver defense and this possibly being a low scoring game. In a PPR, I think Langford is still a high RB2, possibly low RB1. But in a standard league, which tends to be more TD dependent, I'm thinking this might be a bit of a let down compared to the last two.

 

[Franknbeans]

Probably but they way they have been utilizing him, you can't write him off in PPR. Plus, I think the Bears beat them outright so there's that.

 

[bigbrownbag]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

 

[JuniorNB]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Forte was only averaging 3.6 yard per carry in his last six games. He's slowing down. And he's going to be a 30 year old free agent at the end of the season who knows himself that he's likely to be resigned. I think most people here know how real football works. But they also understand the business side of it. Langford has 330 yards and 3 TDs in two starts. Forte had three TDs in seven games. Not saying Langford is better than Forte at this point, but if you think Forte comes back and Langford goes right back to 3 or 4 touches a game, then you're letting your Forte ownership cloud your judgment.

 

[MindBomb]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Forte was only averaging 3.6 yard per carry in his last six games. He's slowing down. And he's going to be a 30 year old free agent at the end of the season who knows himself that he's likely to be resigned. I think most people here know how real football works. But they also understand the business side of it. Langford has 330 yards and 3 TDs in two starts. Forte had three TDs in seven games. Not saying Langford is better than Forte at this point, but if you think Forte comes back and Langford goes right back to 3 or 4 touches a game, then you're letting your Forte ownership cloud your judgment.

Way to throw out Forte's best game against GB to cloud your analysis. Remember that Forte had to play with Clausen in that debacle at Seattle too. Let's be honest, the Bears are playing much better football than they were to begin the season and Langford got to face the Chargers who probably couldn't stop a San Diego Aztecs rushing attack. The guy is averaging 4.0 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per reception for a total of 767 yards and 3 TDs. Not bad for 6 1/2 games. He'll be back for his usual touches, despite Fox's nonsense about "competition." Real football also takes into consideration veteran leadership, locker room influence, and trust to execute what the coaches want on the field (i.e., blocking assignments, running the correct routes, knowing the playbook, not fumbling, etc.).

Now, if the Bears fade from the playoff picture, then I could see Langford getting more looks toward the end of the season; but, right now, they are still in the hunt and I see Forte getting 25 touches per game once he gets healthy.

 

[JuniorNB]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Forte was only averaging 3.6 yard per carry in his last six games. He's slowing down. And he's going to be a 30 year old free agent at the end of the season who knows himself that he's likely to be resigned. I think most people here know how real football works. But they also understand the business side of it. Langford has 330 yards and 3 TDs in two starts. Forte had three TDs in seven games. Not saying Langford is better than Forte at this point, but if you think Forte comes back and Langford goes right back to 3 or 4 touches a game, then you're letting your Forte ownership cloud your judgment.

Way to throw out Forte's best game against GB to cloud your analysis. Remember that Forte had to play with Clausen in that debacle at Seattle too. Let's be honest, the Bears are playing much better football than they were to begin the season and Langford got to face the Chargers who probably couldn't stop a San Diego Aztecs rushing attack. The guy is averaging 4.0 yards per carry and 8.8 yards per reception for a total of 767 yards and 3 TDs. Not bad for 6 1/2 games. He'll be back for his usual touches, despite Fox's nonsense about "competition." Real football also takes into consideration veteran leadership, locker room influence, and trust to execute what the coaches want on the field (i.e., blocking assignments, running the correct routes, knowing the playbook, not fumbling, etc.).

Now, if the Bears fade from the playoff picture, then I could see Langford getting more looks toward the end of the season; but, right now, they are still in the hunt and I see Forte getting 25 touches per game once he gets healthy.

If his best game was somewhere in the middle of the season, then I wouldn't have 'thrown it out". The fact that he's only averaging 3.6 yards per carry in the last six games that he played is relevant. He's nearly 30. Against Green Bay, he was coming off of 8 months rest. I the six games since then, he's only had one game that was as good as both of Langford's have been. I'm not saying that Langford has beaten Forte out. I'm saying that Forte's role will be lighter than it was before his injury. There's no way Fox can keep someone as explosive as Langford on the bench now. 18 touches for Forte and 12 for Langford wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Tool]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Not sure "comical" is the right word here...

(Rotoworld)Matt Forte is open to sharing carries with Jeremy Langford when he returns from his knee injury.

Analysis: With Langford playing so well, Forte isn't rushing to get back on the field. "Jeremy has talent," said Forte. "He's done his job like he's supposed to ... I've constantly worked with him and continue to tell him what I know so he can be consistent." Forte acknowledged that sharing work with Langford down the stretch could be better for the long-term future of both players. "I actually like it because now going forward I'm not going to have to play every single play or every down," he said. "So we can at least be healthy and be at full speed out there." It's hard to envision Forte settling for a committee role but the Bears might like to see what they have in Langford, especially with Forte a near certainty to leave in free agency. Forte is expected to return either this week or next.

 

[Sebowski]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

 

[Sebowski]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Not sure "comical" is the right word here...

(Rotoworld)Matt Forte is open to sharing carries with Jeremy Langford when he returns from his knee injury.

Analysis: With Langford playing so well, Forte isn't rushing to get back on the field. "Jeremy has talent," said Forte. "He's done his job like he's supposed to ... I've constantly worked with him and continue to tell him what I know so he can be consistent." Forte acknowledged that sharing work with Langford down the stretch could be better for the long-term future of both players. "I actually like it because now going forward I'm not going to have to play every single play or every down," he said. "So we can at least be healthy and be at full speed out there." It's hard to envision Forte settling for a committee role but the Bears might like to see what they have in Langford, especially with Forte a near certainty to leave in free agency. Forte is expected to return either this week or next.

 

[JuniorNB]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

So an aging running back comes in fresh and has a great game then averages 3.6 yards per carry for the next six games and you think that's irrelevant? That's adorable. Sorry that you own Forte and hate what you're seeing. Hopefully you drafted some depth.

Oh, and maybe a few more laughing emojis will help take the sting away.

 

[Sebowski]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

So an aging running back comes in fresh and has a great game then averages 3.6 yards per carry for the next six games and you think that's irrelevant? That's adorable. Sorry that you own Forte and hate what you're seeing. Hopefully you drafted some depth.

Oh, and maybe a few more laughing emojis will help take the sting away.

Do you really not see how stupid it is to throw1 game out of a 7 game sample size? And because he was fresh it doesn't count? That's pretty dense, man. If the trolling wasn't so obvious I'd be worried about you.

And I'm actually a Langford dynasty owner. Don't have Forte at all. Thanks for playing though.

 

[JuniorNB]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

So an aging running back comes in fresh and has a great game then averages 3.6 yards per carry for the next six games and you think that's irrelevant? That's adorable. Sorry that you own Forte and hate what you're seeing. Hopefully you drafted some depth.

Oh, and maybe a few more laughing emojis will help take the sting away.

Do you really not see how stupid it is to throw1 game out of a 7 game sample size? And because he was fresh it doesn't count? That's pretty dense, man. If the trolling wasn't so obvious I'd be worried about you.

And I'm actually a Langford dynasty owner. Don't have Forte at all. Thanks for playing though.

Riiiight. I'm not throwing it out. I'm saying that the decline since is relevant. Also, Forte himself says it's going to be a timeshare. Maybe you should laugh at him too. Dense, indeed.

 

[Sebowski]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

So an aging running back comes in fresh and has a great game then averages 3.6 yards per carry for the next six games and you think that's irrelevant? That's adorable. Sorry that you own Forte and hate what you're seeing. Hopefully you drafted some depth.

Oh, and maybe a few more laughing emojis will help take the sting away.

Do you really not see how stupid it is to throw1 game out of a 7 game sample size? And because he was fresh it doesn't count? That's pretty dense, man. If the trolling wasn't so obvious I'd be worried about you.

And I'm actually a Langford dynasty owner. Don't have Forte at all. Thanks for playing though.

Riiiight. I'm not throwing it out. I'm saying that the decline since is relevant. Also, Forte himself says it's going to be a timeshare. Maybe you should laugh at him too. Dense, indeed.

Dude. You really suck at this. You obviously haven't read any of my posts in here. Don't you have an Eagles thread to ruin?

 

[MindBomb]

If his best game was somewhere in the middle of the season, then I wouldn't have 'thrown it out". The fact that he's only averaging 3.6 yards per carry in the last six games that he played is relevant. He's nearly 30. Against Green Bay, he was coming off of 8 months rest. I the six games since then, he's only had one game that was as good as both of Langford's have been. I'm not saying that Langford has beaten Forte out. I'm saying that Forte's role will be lighter than it was before his injury. There's no way Fox can keep someone as explosive as Langford on the bench now. 18 touches for Forte and 12 for Langford wouldn't surprise me at all.

Does the fact that Langford has averaged 3.8 yards per carry in 2 1/2 games (since MIN) factor into your comparison? Where he has picked up yards is in the passing game, which I would argue Forte would be performing just as well. Do you really think Langford will keep up his 17+ yards per reception pace?

I guess we'll have to wait and see what will happen, but it's my opinion that 18/12 split is a little optimistic. I would bet less than ten for Langford, maybe 18-20 for Forte and 6-8 for Langford.

 

[JuniorNB]

Did someone just cherry pick out one of Forte's only seven games this season? That's ####### hilarious. It doesn't count because he had 8 months rest This guys can't be serous.

So an aging running back comes in fresh and has a great game then averages 3.6 yards per carry for the next six games and you think that's irrelevant? That's adorable. Sorry that you own Forte and hate what you're seeing. Hopefully you drafted some depth.

Oh, and maybe a few more laughing emojis will help take the sting away.

Do you really not see how stupid it is to throw1 game out of a 7 game sample size? And because he was fresh it doesn't count? That's pretty dense, man. If the trolling wasn't so obvious I'd be worried about you.

And I'm actually a Langford dynasty owner. Don't have Forte at all. Thanks for playing though.

Riiiight. I'm not throwing it out. I'm saying that the decline since is relevant. Also, Forte himself says it's going to be a timeshare. Maybe you should laugh at him too. Dense, indeed.

Dude. You really suck at this. You obviously haven't read any of my posts in here. Don't you have an Eagles thread to ruin?

You're so laughy. Enjoy the timeshare, son. Toodles

 

[JuniorNB]

If his best game was somewhere in the middle of the season, then I wouldn't have 'thrown it out". The fact that he's only averaging 3.6 yards per carry in the last six games that he played is relevant. He's nearly 30. Against Green Bay, he was coming off of 8 months rest. I the six games since then, he's only had one game that was as good as both of Langford's have been. I'm not saying that Langford has beaten Forte out. I'm saying that Forte's role will be lighter than it was before his injury. There's no way Fox can keep someone as explosive as Langford on the bench now. 18 touches for Forte and 12 for Langford wouldn't surprise me at all.

Does the fact that Langford has averaged 3.8 yards per carry in 2 1/2 games (since MIN) factor into your comparison? Where he has picked up yards is in the passing game, which I would argue Forte would be performing just as well. Do you really think Langford will keep up his 17+ yards per reception pace?

I guess we'll have to wait and see what will happen, but it's my opinion that 18/12 split is a little optimistic. I would bet less than ten for Langford, maybe 18-20 for Forte and 6-8 for Langford.

We're all just guessing, but to hear Forte talk, he's already resigned to the fact that he's not getting a huge amount anymore. Scroll up to read his quotes.

 

[Sebowski]

If his best game was somewhere in the middle of the season, then I wouldn't have 'thrown it out". The fact that he's only averaging 3.6 yards per carry in the last six games that he played is relevant. He's nearly 30. Against Green Bay, he was coming off of 8 months rest. I the six games since then, he's only had one game that was as good as both of Langford's have been. I'm not saying that Langford has beaten Forte out. I'm saying that Forte's role will be lighter than it was before his injury. There's no way Fox can keep someone as explosive as Langford on the bench now. 18 touches for Forte and 12 for Langford wouldn't surprise me at all.

Does the fact that Langford has averaged 3.8 yards per carry in 2 1/2 games (since MIN) factor into your comparison? Where he has picked up yards is in the passing game, which I would argue Forte would be performing just as well. Do you really think Langford will keep up his 17+ yards per reception pace?

I guess we'll have to wait and see what will happen, but it's my opinion that 18/12 split is a little optimistic. I would bet less than ten for Langford, maybe 18-20 for Forte and 6-8 for Langford.

We're all just guessing, but to hear Forte talk, he's already resigned to the fact that he's not getting a huge amount anymore. Scroll up to read his quotes.

Oh ####! I didn't realize you knew that was a thing!

 

[MindBomb]

We're all just guessing, but to hear Forte talk, he's already resigned to the fact that he's not getting a huge amount anymore. Scroll up to read his quotes.

You have to read the context of those quotes. Reporters are posing the questions in such a way that force Forte to respond this way in order to be a good teammate. He certainly is not implying a full-blown committee situation where they are splitting touches--simply that he can get a breather and not carry the whole load. And that the team is better if Langford can be trusted to spell Forte and it will not be a drop off in production at the position.

Are you going to acknowledge Langford's stellar yards/rush, which is incidentally lower than Forte's? Let's not get carried away with a two game sample that contains one big receiving play. Forte has proven his worth over an 8-year sample, including this year (where he was a top-four back in standard leagues before his injury).

 

[chad in Indy]

Fantasy football completely messes with people's perception of how real life football works.

When Forte is healthy he will be back to his usual workload. To think otherwise is comical. Key word being "When".

And yes. Carey looked better than Langford as a RUNNING back. A football fan would have noticed that. Not a fantasy fan.

Really? I didn't see anything that made me think WOW with Carey. I think Carey has better lateral movement, but that's about it. I think they both have adequate vision, but Langford has great hands for a RB. Outside of the running, I was impressed with how well Langford picked up his blocking assignments, ran good routes, and the other intangibles that make up a 3 down back. The coaches said they took zero plays out of the book when Forte went down. That's pretty impressive for a rookie RB. These are the reasons I can see the Bears willing to move on.

 

[flapgreen]

Langford must be on the decline, too.

 

[JuniorNB]

We're all just guessing, but to hear Forte talk, he's already resigned to the fact that he's not getting a huge amount anymore. Scroll up to read his quotes.

You have read the context of those quotes. Reporters are posing the questions in such a way that force Forte to respond this way in order to be a good teammate. He certainly is not implying a full-blown committee situation where they are splitting touches--simply that he can get a breather and not carry the whole load. And that the team is better if Langford can be trusted to spell Forte and it will not be a drop off in production at the position.

Are you going to acknowledge Langford's stellar yards/rush, which is incidentally lower than Forte's? Let's not get carried away with a two game sample that contains one big receiving play. Forte has proven his worth over an 8-year sample, including this year (where he was a top-four back in standard leagues before his injury).

I'm not an implying a 50/50 split. I'm implying that Forte is as good as gone next year. Everyone knows that, including Forte. He's said as much. And I'm sure he's saying things to be a good teammate. He's always struck me as a class guy. I predicted a 18/12 split, assuming 30 touches. Others have estimated 20/10. As I said, we're all just guessing. What is obvious though, is that there is no dropoff with Langford in there. He's more electric in the passing game. He looks to be much quicker than Forte. I suggested earlier that Forte may get 2 series to one for Langford. Or maybe it'll be 3 to 1, with Langford taking most of the third downs. Who knows? Maybe Fox does. I would just be shocked to see it go back to the way it was pre-injury. Langford had as many TDs in two games as Forte has had all season. Unless they simply want to run Forte into the ground because he'll be someone else's property next year.

 

[nelly29]

Since I don't have either of these guys....please come back Forte to a 50/50 split and destroy both of their values......

 

[Biabreakable]

Just listening to Bucky Brooks and he seems pretty convinced that Forte won't be re-signed for 2016.

 

[flapgreen]

Who's that

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Who's that

With a name like Bucky he must know what he's talking about.

 

[Biabreakable]

Who's that

With a name like Bucky he must know what he's talking about.

He said he worked for John Fox before.

 

[VikingFrog]

Who's that

With a name like Bucky he must know what he's talking about.

He said he worked for John Fox before.

But is he an Ace Reporter?

 

[Kinger]

(Rotoworld)Bears coach John Fox said the running back rotation will be "tricky" once Matt Forte (knee) returns.

Analysis: The Bears still have faint designs on a playoff berth, but once those evaporate there will be little reason to run Forte into the ground.

I think they have this backwards. If the season is lost wouldn't they rather run down the guy out the door then put more wear on the new kid? Once they are out of it I see Langford stealing more touches, but Forte will still be the guy until he turns in his jersey.

I don't see it as putting wear on Langford, it's more like seeing how he holds up with a half season of full time work. If they are happy with that, they can go into the off-season with a better idea of what their draft board would look like. If I were Chicago, once eliminated I'd go w/ Langford for the "tryout" for lead back and thank Matt for his time.

 

[chad in Indy]

Here is a link posted in the Forte thread giving some insight into this weekend. Forte has a chance to play this Sunday.

Sounds like it's going to come down to how he feels tomorrow, and if he thinks he can keep the swelling down given the quick turnaround to Thursday.