Last seventeen minutes of last night's Audible was a fairly heated discussion on QB Johnny Manziel.
Link in case you missed it.
Go to 1:26 minute mark to here the debate, FWIW Cecil made a great point that was overlooked concerning the fact the Browns have not started Manziel and he has had discussions to that point with Schefter where they speculate the team hasn't given him a chance because they don't think he's ready.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsPo8hcmMZg
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Then in a local pod that goes much-MUCH more detailed into many things concerning the team that relates to the QB position they also say Manziel isn't ready and its due to the fact he's immature but they also rip the rookie running backs and REALLY lay into WR Josh Gordon, see the Josh Gordon thread where I did a transcription of a portion of where they rip into Josh Gordon.
These guys are great, they not only rip into the players they lambaste the Browns fans who they know are going to boo Brian Hoyer just because they want Johnny Manziel, I love it.
Per Johnny go to the 21:00 minute mark where they RIP into Manziel for not being prepared. They talk about how the Browns made the announcement that QB Brian Hoyer would start and less than five minutes later Johnny's agent put out a press release that Johnny Manziel made the front and back covers of Sports Illustrated with the Johnny Boggie Snickers ad. They say it shows how out of touch Johnny is and his agent and everyone around him. They said he got his ### sat because he wasn't prepared.
They go into a funny locker room DT Gerard Warren stories that aren't PG rated and I won't share here but G-Money failed because he was too immature and just didn't get it, no awareness, tone death with obvious overtures to Johnny Manziel who doesn't get it. Dre told of a former defensive lineman who said that the majority of first round picks don't get it the first year because they don't have to work hard and both of the Browns first round picks are not playing in week thirteen this year. Free agent QB Brian Hoyer starting over Johnny Manziel and free agent CB Kewuan Williams starting over the 8th pick of the first round CB Justin Gilbert.
http://603brown.com/2014/12/03/atoz-the-manziel-hoyer-edition/
Zac- Johnny Manziel is a non-football celebrity and the Cleveland Browns will not put him in the game even with Brian Hoyer being statistically the worst starting quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not going to transcribe the entire pod. These guys just rip into the attitude of, Manziel, rookie RB Terrance West, WR Josh Gordon, CB Justin Gilbert, and even rookie RB Isaiah Crowell.
The point they keep coming back around to is Johnny Manziel ain't starting and their is a reason for it, he's not ready and is out partying and he just doesn't get it but they feel the fans don't get it either and I think they make some great points so check out the pod if you haven't.