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I'm going to try and explain this once again. 

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. They are basically divided into radical Muslims (Islamists), about 5-10%, and non-radical Muslims (90-95%, the vast majority.) Now 5-10% is still 80 to 160 million people, a pretty large, dangerous number. Of those radicals, perhaps 50,000 are terrorists who actively threaten the western world. But there is always the threat that (a) more moderates will join the radicals, and (b) that more radicals will become terrorists who threaten us. 

The key to winning the struggle against Islamic terrorism is to keep these numbers down, to convince moderates not to join the radicals, and to convince radicals not to join the terrorists. That is why our responsible leaders refrain from condemning all of Islam, or even mentioning Islam as responsible for terrorism. Donald Trump is doing the opposite, and as the Republican nominee for President he is doing great damage to our attempt to contain this problem. In order to satisfy the simplistic emotions of conservatives, Trump is making the world much more dangerous for us. 
Your numbers don't jive with the Pew report do they?

 
Your numbers don't jive with the Pew report do they?
Not sure what you're referring to. My numbers came from a lecture I heard a few years ago from an Islamic Studies professor. I can't vouch for them, but I have no reason to think they're inaccurate. 

 
Not sure what you're referring to. My numbers came from a lecture I heard a few years ago from an Islamic Studies professor. I can't vouch for them, but I have no reason to think they're inaccurate. 
You might want to Google it.  And then read it.

 
You might want to Google it.  And then read it.
OK. Based on the summary, it doesn't contradict anything I wrote:

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

This mostly deals with Sharia. Most Muslims favor Sharia, but a majority favor it ONLY FOR MUSLIMS. Further, most Muslims support democracy and freedom, which jives with what I wrote. 

There is nothing in there that I can find about support for Islamism or terrorism. 

 
Also Trump asserted tonight that most or all Muslims hated the United States. I would very much like to see some evidence of that. 

 
I'm going to try and explain this once again. 

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. They are basically divided into radical Muslims (Islamists), about 5-10%, and non-radical Muslims (90-95%, the vast majority.) Now 5-10% is still 80 to 160 million people, a pretty large, dangerous number. Of those radicals, perhaps 50,000 are terrorists who actively threaten the western world. But there is always the threat that (a) more moderates will join the radicals, and (b) that more radicals will become terrorists who threaten us. 
I think it is cute that you think there are only 5-10% radicals...or that 90-95% of the non-radicals completely ostracize the radicals. The line between the radical and non-radical is very blurry.

I could lay down a bunt on that line and it would never go foul.

 
I think it is cute that you think there are only 5-10% radicals...or that 90-95% of the non-radicals completely ostracize the radicals. The line between the radical and non-radical is very blurry.

I could lay down a bunt on that line and it would never go foul.
I never said they ostracize the radicals. Sometimes, often, many of them sympathize with the radicals, and that's a real problem. 

But they don't PARTICIPATE with the radicals, and that's what we need to keep them from doing for our own safety. 

 
Anyhow, with the possible exception of Herman Cain I've never seen a candidate for President as uninformed and ignorant as Donald Trump. Simply amazing that he's going to be the GOP nominee. 

 
I'm going to try and explain this once again. 

There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. They are basically divided into radical Muslims (Islamists), about 5-10%, and non-radical Muslims (90-95%, the vast majority.) Now 5-10% is still 80 to 160 million people, a pretty large, dangerous number. Of those radicals, perhaps 50,000 are terrorists who actively threaten the western world. But there is always the threat that (a) more moderates will join the radicals, and (b) that more radicals will become terrorists who threaten us. 

The key to winning the struggle against Islamic terrorism is to keep these numbers down, to convince moderates not to join the radicals, and to convince radicals not to join the terrorists. That is why our responsible leaders refrain from condemning all of Islam, or even mentioning Islam as responsible for terrorism. Donald Trump is doing the opposite, and as the Republican nominee for President he is doing great damage to our attempt to contain this problem. In order to satisfy the simplistic emotions of conservatives, Trump is making the world much more dangerous for us. 


If you have 50,000 it might as well be 250,000.  200,000 doesn't make a hill of beans to our bombs or ground troops.  50,000 is plenty to hit us from the shadows and can't b e contained.

 
OK. Based on the summary, it doesn't contradict anything I wrote:

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

This mostly deals with Sharia. Most Muslims favor Sharia, but a majority favor it ONLY FOR MUSLIMS. Further, most Muslims support democracy and freedom, which jives with what I wrote. 

There is nothing in there that I can find about support for Islamism or terrorism. 
He sees what he wants to see...

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/massive_worldwide_support_for_sharia_law_among_global_muslim_community.html#ixzz42ZL4Ai1I 
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If we take the accepted estimate of 2.75 million Muslims in the USA at present, the Pew polling data suggests that there are 220,000 Muslim Americans who believe that suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified to defend Islam from its enemies, 138,000 who hold a favorable or somewhat favorable view of al Qaeda, and more than 850,000 Muslim Americans who see a conflict between being a devout Muslim and living in a modern society such as that of the United States
 
And the Muslims in the US are the good news.  The rest of the world's Muslim populations hold far more extremist views.  They overwhelmingly believe in some horrible #### that is in direct odds with Western values and modernity.  Facts are facts.

 
I think it is cute that you think there are only 5-10% radicals...or that 90-95% of the non-radicals completely Ostracize the radicals. The line between the radical and non-radical is very blurry.

I could lay down a bunt on that line and it would never go foul.
It really depends on what you regard as radical and it would also help to identify specific countries because Islam can be interpenetrated and subsequently practiced differently in different countries. For instance, I regard an individual who wants sharia law to be the official law of the land as a radical. In Afghanistan that's 99% of the population, in Turkey that's 12% of the population. 

 
It really depends on what you regard as radical and it would also help to identify specific countries because Islam can be interpenetrated and subsequently practiced differently in different countries. For instance, I regard an individual who wants sharia law to be the official law of the land as a radical. In Afghanistan that's 99% of the population, in Turkey that's 12% of the population. 
Tim works best with generalities

 
I never said they ostracize the radicals. Sometimes, often, many of them sympathize with the radicals, and that's a real problem. 

But they don't PARTICIPATE with the radicals, and that's what we need to keep them from doing for our own safety. 
It is a real problem because no matter how many times we rid their countries of tyrants, the new government that the people vote on are just as radical as the last one. 

 
Did thomeone just talk thit about muthlims?

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Is Iron Mike sick?..He looks a bit gaunt..

 
And the Muslims in the US are the good news.  The rest of the world's Muslim populations hold far more extremist views.  They overwhelmingly believe in some horrible #### that is in direct odds with Western values and modernity.  Facts are facts.
Moved down south in 1973...was a Catholic....the Baptist at that time hated the Catholics...Trump is right Islam hates the west..(Christians)...no different.

 

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