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* Official Marvel's Luke Cage * Season 2 out. Sweet Christmas! (1 Viewer)
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
I noticed In the "Luke Cage" show, black people talk the way white people think black people talk
shadyridr
Footballguy
I love how these series are so closely tied to the comics. I didn't know much about the comic storyline when I started watching this. 5 episodes in and I started reading about Luke Cage and Cottonmouth and Diamondback and the story in the show is almost exactly from the comics. Pretty cool. Netflix just does these marvel shows right.
I have a feeling that Luke isn't going to end up getting married and having a kid with Jessica Jones, though.
Hawks64
Footballguy
It' not really Netflix though, it's really directly related to Kevin Feige. He is the driving force behind all things Marvel on the screen big or small.
shadyridr
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
AcerFC
Footballguy
I finished it and enjoyed it. It would come in third for me and I am most definitely nitpicking here, but I just have a hard time with
Councilwomen Stokes being a tough bad ### and someone who needs to be led at the same time. Pick one, didnt like that it was both
Another nitpick but Im not really sure why Willis was so upset in the first place. I can understand it if he has always been that way. But Carl and Willis were friends for a long time. He was slow playing since he was 5. I "get" it, just not sure I get it, if you know what I mean
And when the bodega was being robbed, I was like WTF, is that Method Man in this small little role. Didnt realize he was going to be playing himself. Lolz
Soundtrack was amazing. And like I said, I think both female leads are smoking hot. I would have been more than happy to see more of the Missy-Luke coffee scene
I never know when we need spoilers or not so Ill just throw them in
Another nitpick but Im not really sure why Willis was so upset in the first place. I can understand it if he has always been that way. But Carl and Willis were friends for a long time. He was slow playing since he was 5. I "get" it, just not sure I get it, if you know what I mean
And when the bodega was being robbed, I was like WTF, is that Method Man in this small little role. Didnt realize he was going to be playing himself. Lolz
Soundtrack was amazing. And like I said, I think both female leads are smoking hot. I would have been more than happy to see more of the Missy-Luke coffee scene
I never know when we need spoilers or not so Ill just throw them in
GregR
Footballguy
Finished it tonight. Definitely in last for me amongst all the Marvel stuff. It wasn't bad but the last half really went downhill.
Didn't like the episodes focusing on the past of Mariah and Cottonmouth. Especially as they end that sequence with him immediately dying. Seemed like it was pointless then. The rest of the show wasn't any more interesting for having spent 2 episodes on that.
The other thing that dragged it down was the stupidity of Diamondback during the hostage taking stuff, and then the police Inspector too. Ok, so the goal is to frame Luke, but every hostage there is going to tell the cops it wasn't Luke and a bunch of other guys with guns did it. So why would you think that's going to work? And you release some hostages early so they'll know before the situation is even over that Luke isn't responsible. Throw in the complete lack of any plan to actually get out of the building when it's surrounded by cops.
And then the police Inspector, with all of that information at her fingers, keeps pushing at Luke as if he did it. Still needing to bring him in I get, but the writers had her just being an idiot how she was going about it to try to manufacture drama. That whole sequence between her and Diamondback's behavior really brought down the last half of the series for me.
Still a decent enough show, just disappointed they didn't do those parts better.
The other thing that dragged it down was the stupidity of Diamondback during the hostage taking stuff, and then the police Inspector too. Ok, so the goal is to frame Luke, but every hostage there is going to tell the cops it wasn't Luke and a bunch of other guys with guns did it. So why would you think that's going to work? And you release some hostages early so they'll know before the situation is even over that Luke isn't responsible. Throw in the complete lack of any plan to actually get out of the building when it's surrounded by cops.
And then the police Inspector, with all of that information at her fingers, keeps pushing at Luke as if he did it. Still needing to bring him in I get, but the writers had her just being an idiot how she was going about it to try to manufacture drama. That whole sequence between her and Diamondback's behavior really brought down the last half of the series for me.
Still a decent enough show, just disappointed they didn't do those parts better.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Liked it, but overall agree that its my least favorite of the three Marvel Netflix series so far.
Some things I had issues with/thoughts about:
Some things I had issues with/thoughts about:
1. Weak villains compared to the other two shows, period. Kingpin, Kilgrave, and Punisher were all way better, more nuanced, and more believable in their own ways. And played by better actors, though Remy from House of Cards did a good job with what he was given. I think if some of the flashbacks they had done were placed earlier in thh season, the villains may have felt more three dimensional during the important scenes.
2. Expanding on 1, Diamondback just didn't live up to expectations. They built him up all season long as someone to be terrified of, as if he heads up a bigger organization or something, and it turns out he's just a solo violent nutjob who intimidates and murders his way to the top of the local gang hierarchy? Lame. The actor was really hamming it up a lot as well, but that kind of fit with the tone of the show so it was fine.
3. What was Diamondback's connection with Hammer corps or whatever? It made sense that he had access to the special alien Judas bullets because he was basically a salesman using his own product, and taking a cut of the sales. But the custom-made suit? Who was his connection, how did it happen? How did he go from prison to being what he became? I'd say it will be explained in season 2, and I'm sure some of it will, but why will his Hammer connections be important by then when he'll probably have actual powers of his own (being experimented on by the doctor that made Cage, and sharing DNA with Cage who was a unique success).
Would have loved if they ended the season with Rosario Dawson walking up and knocking on Murdock's door, implying that Cage is his next client and that's how they meet.
Anyone else think they tie Dawson into Iron Fist via that self defense class poster she was looking at to end this season? She's the connection between all the heroes so far, basically, so you'd think she has to pop up in Iron Fist as well, and have a hand in bringing the Defenders together.
Cool non-action moment: the Method Man radio interview and the wave of bullet-riddled hoodies popping up everywhere in a show of solidarity/support for Cage among the people. They nailed that.
Anyone else catch that JJ's best friend's radio show was on in the background at some point? Pretty cool.
2. Expanding on 1, Diamondback just didn't live up to expectations. They built him up all season long as someone to be terrified of, as if he heads up a bigger organization or something, and it turns out he's just a solo violent nutjob who intimidates and murders his way to the top of the local gang hierarchy? Lame. The actor was really hamming it up a lot as well, but that kind of fit with the tone of the show so it was fine.
3. What was Diamondback's connection with Hammer corps or whatever? It made sense that he had access to the special alien Judas bullets because he was basically a salesman using his own product, and taking a cut of the sales. But the custom-made suit? Who was his connection, how did it happen? How did he go from prison to being what he became? I'd say it will be explained in season 2, and I'm sure some of it will, but why will his Hammer connections be important by then when he'll probably have actual powers of his own (being experimented on by the doctor that made Cage, and sharing DNA with Cage who was a unique success).
Would have loved if they ended the season with Rosario Dawson walking up and knocking on Murdock's door, implying that Cage is his next client and that's how they meet.
Anyone else think they tie Dawson into Iron Fist via that self defense class poster she was looking at to end this season? She's the connection between all the heroes so far, basically, so you'd think she has to pop up in Iron Fist as well, and have a hand in bringing the Defenders together.
Cool non-action moment: the Method Man radio interview and the wave of bullet-riddled hoodies popping up everywhere in a show of solidarity/support for Cage among the people. They nailed that.
Anyone else catch that JJ's best friend's radio show was on in the background at some point? Pretty cool.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It will make you feel better to know that there were some black writers credited for all the episodes, I guess. They were clearly going for kind of an over-the-top Shaft feel.
FUBAR
Footballguy
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
blend
Footballguy
I was wondering about this too... I'm not entirely sure, but when Daredevil was getting his suit made, didn't the maker of that suit mention how he was also putting something else together for someone??? I keep meaning to go back and look to verify, but I'm thinking it was for Diamondback.
GregR
Footballguy
Also Melvin said he doesn't make things for anyone other than DD anymore in season 2 of that series.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Just not digging this show anywhere near as much as DD or JJ. Luke just seems way too powerful and he's freaking bullet proof.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Thought it was much better than jessica jones. I didnt love the diamond back reveal though.
Peak
Footballguy
I'm in the same boat. Really liked this one and felt it moved along at a good pace. It's up there with DD S1 for me. Fun ride and well done.
LC
DDS1
DDS2
JJ
Wasn't a big fan of JJ. While I thought Kilgrave was a great villian, I felt that whole series drug on way too much. Hoping JJ S2 has an uptick and we see Hellcat, Luke, Danny, Kristen/Misty or something to pick it up.
Really looking forward to IF and The Defenders. Marvel/Netflix has been doing a really good job with these shows.
James Daulton
Footballguy
The difference to me is that JJ is powerful but not invulnerable. LC is practically superman-light. Plus Kilgrave was awesome.
GregR
Footballguy
Season 2 of Luke Cage coming. Here's a link with a bit of spoiler for some cool Misty Knight development.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
B Maverick
Footballguy
LC and JJ were about the same for me. Middle eps were more enjoyable then the first 3 and last couple. Both shows are behind DD 1 and 2 for me.
The s2 trailer does look good though and maybe it will pick up the pacing a bit. Working on JJ 2 for now and looking forward to this.
Good or bad, if its marvel its for me...
The s2 trailer does look good though and maybe it will pick up the pacing a bit. Working on JJ 2 for now and looking forward to this.
Good or bad, if its marvel its for me...
shadyridr
Footballguy
I'm still trying to get through the slog of JJ S2. Not sure Ill hit this anytime soon considering how much I hated S1.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Watched the first couple of eps. Nothing earth-shattering. Not terrible.
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(Smash)
I typically have sub-titles on, and it really helped with the Jamaicans because they gave the English translation for a lot of it.
I want a Sweet Xmas hoodie.
kupcho1
Footballguy
bigbottom
Footballguy
I actually liked Season Two quite a bit. The Jamaicans were awesome (with CC assist) and I really enjoyed the Stokes - Mciver backstory. The story arc for Luke was also pretty interesting in the final act. Low point was the Iron Fist cameo. The guy just has a knack for sucking and making everything around him suck. Also got tired of the Shades - Mariah sexual tension in seemingly every episode. Giving Luke Cage Season Two a solid B.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Half way through. Love Bushmaster. I dont get all the Jessica Jones love. She is hot, but both seasons are worse than Luke imo.
James Daulton
Footballguy
imo JJ season 1 was fantastic. Great villain, flawed hero who's powerful but not overwhelmingly so. Loved it.
bigbottom
Footballguy
The ONLY thing I liked about the Iron Fist cameo was that he wore a Sweet Xmas hoodie.Reg Cathey was great. The in memorium at the end caught me off guard.
I thought S2 was better that S1. I liked Shades better outside the Mariah relationship. Will be interested in season 3 direction
oh, and I liked the iron fist cameo
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Did not like season 2, although it still ranks above Iron Fist. The writing, pacing, and in a lot of cases the acting were just terrible. The highlight of the season was Bushmaster hands down. I was pulling for him.
Rankings:
DD1, DD2, JJ1
LC1, Punisher, JJ2
Defenders
LC2, IF
Rankings:
DD1, DD2, JJ1
LC1, Punisher, JJ2
Defenders
LC2, IF
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
Agreed. I was a little confused on the closing scene (the whole Luke and the club angle), as they seemed to unclearly (to me) misdirect a bit. But overall, liked Season 2 a lot. Better than Season 1 for sure.
bigbottom
Footballguy
I think it is intended to be a bit ambiguous. Essentially, Luke decides that the best way for him to effect change is to become a kingpin of sorts. In doing so, he ends up assuming the role that Mariah predicted he would assume. And his turn, while motivated by good intentions, was not without controversy, as his greatest fan (D.W.) broke ties with him over the move.
B Maverick
Footballguy
Finally finished s2. It picked up a little through the middle and I did enjoy the ending. Solid season but not great. On par with S1.
I liked Bushmaster, the IF cameo, Mariah's daughter. Glad they referenced the Defenders and kept it tied in (Felt like JJ s2 didnt do that as well, if at all).
Hated the Shades-Mariah "relationship". It didn't work and I am not sure it was needed. Outside of that I did like Shades' character.
I thought the ending was good enough to bring me back for s3.
Now on to Iron Fist 2 (which seems to be getting good reports) and DD 3 next month!
I liked Bushmaster, the IF cameo, Mariah's daughter. Glad they referenced the Defenders and kept it tied in (Felt like JJ s2 didnt do that as well, if at all).
Hated the Shades-Mariah "relationship". It didn't work and I am not sure it was needed. Outside of that I did like Shades' character.
I thought the ending was good enough to bring me back for s3.
Now on to Iron Fist 2 (which seems to be getting good reports) and DD 3 next month!
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