***OFFICIAL*** Mass Effect 3 Thread (2 Viewers)

[Borat]

Suprised I didn't post this earlier, but I beat this about three weeks ago as a full on renegade soldier. Great game - bad ending. Wish I knew that some Of the missions were time sensitive though. I missed the acadamy because I ran off to do a main plot adventure. The cool thing was I ended up killing jack who appeared as a regular biotic enemy later On I. The game as a result.

Did you have the new DLC ending installed? This made all the difference IMO.You can also slaughter Morinth toward the end, just as you did Jack.

 

[Insein]

Suprised I didn't post this earlier, but I beat this about three weeks ago as a full on renegade soldier. Great game - bad ending. Wish I knew that some Of the missions were time sensitive though. I missed the acadamy because I ran off to do a main plot adventure. The cool thing was I ended up killing jack who appeared as a regular biotic enemy later On I. The game as a result.

Did you have the new DLC ending installed? This made all the difference IMO.You can also slaughter Morinth toward the end, just as you did Jack.

Jack got a little more meaning as a turned biotic than Morinth did. Morinth was just another Banshee with the name Morinth where as Jack kind of had a moment where you knew it was her. I only watched the video. I couldn't purposely let anyone die if I could help it.

 

[The Ref]

Suprised I didn't post this earlier, but I beat this about three weeks ago as a full on renegade soldier. Great game - bad ending. Wish I knew that some Of the missions were time sensitive though. I missed the acadamy because I ran off to do a main plot adventure. The cool thing was I ended up killing jack who appeared as a regular biotic enemy later On I. The game as a result.

Did you have the new DLC ending installed? This made all the difference IMO.You can also slaughter Morinth toward the end, just as you did Jack.

Jack got a little more meaning as a turned biotic than Morinth did. Morinth was just another Banshee with the name Morinth where as Jack kind of had a moment where you knew it was her. I only watched the video. I couldn't purposely let anyone die if I could help it.

No I just had the regular ending. I should youtube the updated ending.I may run though this as my biotic Paragon next, but I'm in game catchup mode and I have Red Dead redemption next in the que.

 

[Insein]

Suprised I didn't post this earlier, but I beat this about three weeks ago as a full on renegade soldier. Great game - bad ending. Wish I knew that some Of the missions were time sensitive though. I missed the acadamy because I ran off to do a main plot adventure. The cool thing was I ended up killing jack who appeared as a regular biotic enemy later On I. The game as a result.

Did you have the new DLC ending installed? This made all the difference IMO.You can also slaughter Morinth toward the end, just as you did Jack.

Jack got a little more meaning as a turned biotic than Morinth did. Morinth was just another Banshee with the name Morinth where as Jack kind of had a moment where you knew it was her. I only watched the video. I couldn't purposely let anyone die if I could help it.

No I just had the regular ending. I should youtube the updated ending.I may run though this as my biotic Paragon next, but I'm in game catchup mode and I have Red Dead redemption next in the que.

Definitely need to do the new endings. Old ending doesn't make any sense. New ones at least explain where they were going with it.

 

[Insein]

Bioware asks if ME4 should be a sequel or a prequel.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/20/bioware-asks-should-mass-effect-4-be-a-sequel-or-a-prequel/

 

[Mello]

Bioware asks if ME4 should be a sequel or a prequel. http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/11/20/bioware-asks-should-mass-effect-4-be-a-sequel-or-a-prequel/

It shouldn't be a game. Got to keep the money rolling in though I guess.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't know what could be left to tell. We know the prequel story from Leviathan and a sequel seems like it would be either lesser in scope or a rehash of what we just played.

If I had to pick it would be a sequel because it would at least be new, but I don't see how it would be nearly as interesting.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Was there new DLC recently?

 

[Borat]

Was there new DLC recently?

Yes. You retake Omega with Aria as a squadmate.

 

[thecatch]

I'd prefer a sequel, maybe a fair amount of time into the future. Knowing what will ultimately happen down the road always detracts from prequels for me.

Still haven't gotten around to Leviathan or Omega, although I'm looking forward to them. Tough to justify going back to ME3 with so many good new releases out right now.

 

[Insein]

Was there new DLC recently?

Yes. You retake Omega with Aria as a squadmate.

Which would have been cool but I just can't get myself to care now.

 

[Insein]

Thought this was the appropriate thread to put this. I don't no why I never noticed this until now but Easter Eggs are great in games. Here's one from ME2.

“DC1938, a small garden world circling the red supergiant SM2183 Rua, exploded today in a rare phenomenon called core fusion. The planet's uranium core collapsed in on itself, igniting a thermonuclear explosion large enough to rupture the planet into several pieces. The shock wave and loss of atmosphere has reportedly killed more than five billion native inhabitants. There is one known survivor: an infant rocketed from the planet in an FTL escape pod picked up by the human cruiser MSV Kent. The inhabitants of the planet, previously unknown to the galaxy, were a spacefaring race who used crystalline matrices for their computing needs. The infant has been taken to medical facilities in the local cluster, where he is breathing gases in a ratio similar to the atmosphere of his home planet: 65% nitrogen, 20% oxygen, and 15% krypton.”

 

[Insein]

Ark of the Covenant In Citadel DLC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4QkfPjJL4Y

Jump to 3:27 of the video.

 

[The Ref]

Thought this was the appropriate thread to put this. I don't no why I never noticed this until now but Easter Eggs are great in games. Here's one from ME2.

“DC1938, a small garden world circling the red supergiant SM2183 Rua, exploded today in a rare phenomenon called core fusion. The planet's uranium core collapsed in on itself, igniting a thermonuclear explosion large enough to rupture the planet into several pieces. The shock wave and loss of atmosphere has reportedly killed more than five billion native inhabitants. There is one known survivor: an infant rocketed from the planet in an FTL escape pod picked up by the human cruiser MSV Kent. The inhabitants of the planet, previously unknown to the galaxy, were a spacefaring race who used crystalline matrices for their computing needs. The infant has been taken to medical facilities in the local cluster, where he is breathing gases in a ratio similar to the atmosphere of his home planet: 65% nitrogen, 20% oxygen, and 15% krypton.”

It took me a minute.....

 

[Insein]

Very interesting article where one of the main writers for ME3 explains that the ending was not a combined-project but the Lead's solo job and how he understands how players are dissapointed. Punches a hole in the "Indoctrination" theories.

http://geek.pikimal.com/2012/03/22/controversy-erupts-over-mass-effect-3-writers-forum-post-name-release/

Okay, yeah. This makes a lot more sense as to what SHOULD have happened. It would have been epic-er than it already is:

Spoiler

And then, just to be a #### what was SUPPOSED to happen was that, say you picked Destroy the Reapers. When you did that, the system was SUPPOSED to look at your score, and then youd show a cutscene of Earth that was either:

a) Very high score: Earth obviously damaged, but woo victory

b) Medium score: Earth takes a bunch of damage from the Crucible activation. Like dropping a bomb on an already war-ravaged city. Uh, well, maybe not LIKE that as much as, uh, THAT.

c) Low score: Earth is a cinderblock, all life on it completely wiped out

Spoiler

I think they tried to show that, but there wasn't enough differentiation in the Earth cutscenes.

BTW - How soon until we can stop using spoiler tags?

I don't know. I got reprimanded a couple months back fro talking about things in ME2 which came out in 2010. Sooooooo... 2015?Hey Andy, no more spoiler tags

 

[Insein]

Was there new DLC recently?

Yes. You retake Omega with Aria as a squadmate.

Which would have been cool but I just can't get myself to care now.

I got myself to care again. Beat Omega 3 times since then.

 

[Insein]

I've since bought ALL the DLC. In total, I've spent about $280 on these 3 games and have rolled through total completions (1-3) 6 times now. I got my money's worth.

 

[thecatch]

I've since bought ALL the DLC. In total, I've spent about $280 on these 3 games and have rolled through total completions (1-3) 6 times now. I got my money's worth.

I think I got 8-9 completions in.

I'm excited for ME 4 but Dragon Age 3 has me a little concerned with the direction Bioware is taking its RPGs.

 

[Insein]

I've since bought ALL the DLC. In total, I've spent about $280 on these 3 games and have rolled through total completions (1-3) 6 times now. I got my money's worth.

I think I got 8-9 completions in. I'm excited for ME 4 but Dragon Age 3 has me a little concerned with the direction Bioware is taking its RPGs.

I p obably would have had 1 or 2 more but my xbox was red ringed from 10/2013 to 12/2014.

 

[Insein]

Brought over from the VG thread.

To me the Leviathan were not the original intention or least not to have them still exist. The casual mention of the creators of the reapers felt like a throw away line especially with the added "you would not know them and it doesn't matter anyway." So that to me it was all crafted after the original ####storm that occurred. They probably had a brainstorm on the details of where the reapers came from and that was one of the ideas that came from it.

 

[thecatch]

Brought over from the VG thread.

To me the Leviathan were not the original intention or least not to have them still exist. The casual mention of the creators of the reapers felt like a throw away line especially with the added "you would not know them and it doesn't matter anyway." So that to me it was all crafted after the original ####storm that occurred. They probably had a brainstorm on the details of where the reapers came from and that was one of the ideas that came from it.

Well they had previously referenced the fact that the reapers had killed their creators right? This DLC sort of just put some flesh on that idea. It also fit with the whole mythology about the reapers being designed to look like the race they were built from.

 

[Insein]

Brought over from the VG thread.

To me the Leviathan were not the original intention or least not to have them still exist. The casual mention of the creators of the reapers felt like a throw away line especially with the added "you would not know them and it doesn't matter anyway." So that to me it was all crafted after the original ####storm that occurred. They probably had a brainstorm on the details of where the reapers came from and that was one of the ideas that came from it.

Well they had previously referenced the fact that the reapers had killed their creators right? This DLC sort of just put some flesh on that idea. It also fit with the whole mythology about the reapers being designed to look like the race they were built from.

Not saying it doesn't fit the scenario now but the original endings never got that specific. That's why I think it was an after thought.

 

[GregR]

I got curious from the earlier conversation and did some googling.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, but they didn't have a definitive plot for the series. They had ideas but then the ending for 3 was far different from what the original guy guiding the first two had in mind.

BioWare once intended Mass Effect 3 to end differently than it did. One possible ending concerned the spread of Dark Energy - a force used for mass effect fields and biotic powers. It goes that Reapers were created to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which would ultimately destroy everything. That's why Reapers, every 50,000 years or so, processed (turned into a Reaper) an entire species - to slow the spread of Dark Energy. The Human Reaper was to be the last throw of the dice for the Reapers. The ending of Mass Effect 3 would be you deciding whether to sacrifice the entire human race, and create a Human Reaper, or take your chances that humanity could come up with another alternative.

That explains why ME2 had the dark energy destroying the star in Tali's recruitment mission. It also bugged me that they had the ME2 Reaper at the end look human suggesting perhaps each Reaper reflects the race whose DNA it is built from, but that ME3 then the Reapers all look alike (though they do mention in the Codex they are each structurally unique).

As far as my comments in the other thread, the main point I was trying to get across there (while avoiding being too spoilery for whoever was thinking of playing it), was that Leviathan basically give the backstory so you know there is an intelligence that created the Reapers and it is still functioning and trying to complete its objective. So when you encounter the Catalyst it flows out of the story. Without Leviathan, the Catalyst seems like it would feel completely contrived and coming out of left field.

Incidentally, also read the actual ending didn't shape up until right near the end, and was pretty much 1 person responsible for deciding how it would go.

 

[GregR]

And on a different note.... ####.

I forgot you can't have Tali for your romance in ME3 unless you romanced her in ME2. I had went with Jack because I enjoyed the story of someone that had been so emotionally broken, getting healed.

EDI: It is good to know that Jack has thus far survived the Reaper invasion. I have amusing memories of her attempts to insert additions into my reports to the Illusive Man. Most of them centered around inappropriate use of the word 'cockpit'.

Had intended for Shep to end up with Tali in the end though. She's too sweet not to. Tali is about the only person Joker won't make a crack about when she comes on board.

Says something how much they hook me in the characters that I got halfway through ME3 again and am going to restart. Unfortunately the ME2 play through I just did, I locked into Jack right away. I'd have to replay the whole game practically to switch to Tali. Have an older ME2 Shep with Tali I'll use instead. Also will let me complete the buggy Hanar ambassador mission I couldn't complete this time because i left the Citadel and that makes the terminals you're supposed to check stop working.

 

[Insein]

I got curious from the earlier conversation and did some googling.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, but they didn't have a definitive plot for the series. They had ideas but then the ending for 3 was far different from what the original guy guiding the first two had in mind.

BioWare once intended Mass Effect 3 to end differently than it did. One possible ending concerned the spread of Dark Energy - a force used for mass effect fields and biotic powers. It goes that Reapers were created to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which would ultimately destroy everything. That's why Reapers, every 50,000 years or so, processed (turned into a Reaper) an entire species - to slow the spread of Dark Energy. The Human Reaper was to be the last throw of the dice for the Reapers. The ending of Mass Effect 3 would be you deciding whether to sacrifice the entire human race, and create a Human Reaper, or take your chances that humanity could come up with another alternative.

That explains why ME2 had the dark energy destroying the star in Tali's recruitment mission. It also bugged me that they had the ME2 Reaper at the end look human suggesting perhaps each Reaper reflects the race whose DNA it is built from, but that ME3 then the Reapers all look alike (though they do mention in the Codex they are each structurally unique).

As far as my comments in the other thread, the main point I was trying to get across there (while avoiding being too spoilery for whoever was thinking of playing it), was that Leviathan basically give the backstory so you know there is an intelligence that created the Reapers and it is still functioning and trying to complete its objective. So when you encounter the Catalyst it flows out of the story. Without Leviathan, the Catalyst seems like it would feel completely contrived and coming out of left field.

Incidentally, also read the actual ending didn't shape up until right near the end, and was pretty much 1 person responsible for deciding how it would go.

Casey Hudson was the one guy.

Yes the dark energy plot was from the original writer who was canned for ME3. It may have been good but there wasn't much detail given and the writer has since said he never really fleshed it out so stop bugging him about it. They beat us over the head in ME2 though with Dark Energy clues. Then nothing in ME3.

In fact 3 they feel was originally going for the deep psychological ending where Shepard is going through the process of indoctrination throughout ME3 (the dreams, reaper noises, mental fatigue, the whole catalyst ending). But the extended cut pretty much shot that to pieces. We'll never know if that was their intention or not.

 

[Insein]

And on a different note.... ####.

I forgot you can't have Tali for your romance in ME3 unless you romanced her in ME2. I had went with Jack because I enjoyed the story of someone that had been so emotionally broken, getting healed.

EDI: It is good to know that Jack has thus far survived the Reaper invasion. I have amusing memories of her attempts to insert additions into my reports to the Illusive Man. Most of them centered around inappropriate use of the word 'cockpit'.

Had intended for Shep to end up with Tali in the end though. She's too sweet not to. Tali is about the only person Joker won't make a crack about when she comes on board.

Says something how much they hook me in the characters that I got halfway through ME3 again and am going to restart. Unfortunately the ME2 play through I just did, I locked into Jack right away. I'd have to replay the whole game practically to switch to Tali. Have an older ME2 Shep with Tali I'll use instead. Also will let me complete the buggy Hanar ambassador mission I couldn't complete this time because i left the Citadel and that makes the terminals you're supposed to check stop working.

You can get Tali in 3. Just have to talk to her every chance and deny everyone else. Including Steve, lol.

 

[GregR]

And on a different note.... ####.

I forgot you can't have Tali for your romance in ME3 unless you romanced her in ME2. I had went with Jack because I enjoyed the story of someone that had been so emotionally broken, getting healed.

EDI: It is good to know that Jack has thus far survived the Reaper invasion. I have amusing memories of her attempts to insert additions into my reports to the Illusive Man. Most of them centered around inappropriate use of the word 'cockpit'.

Had intended for Shep to end up with Tali in the end though. She's too sweet not to. Tali is about the only person Joker won't make a crack about when she comes on board.

Says something how much they hook me in the characters that I got halfway through ME3 again and am going to restart. Unfortunately the ME2 play through I just did, I locked into Jack right away. I'd have to replay the whole game practically to switch to Tali. Have an older ME2 Shep with Tali I'll use instead. Also will let me complete the buggy Hanar ambassador mission I couldn't complete this time because i left the Citadel and that makes the terminals you're supposed to check stop working.

You can get Tali in 3. Just have to talk to her every chance and deny everyone else. Including Steve, lol.

You can only continue with Tali, Jack or Miranda if you were involved with them in ME2. I did the conversation with Tali that is supposed to lock her in, but it didn't do it since my imported save had been with Jack. At which point I checked the wiki and noticed the "Only if continued from Mass Effect 2" part listed for those three.

 

[Insein]

And on a different note.... ####.

I forgot you can't have Tali for your romance in ME3 unless you romanced her in ME2. I had went with Jack because I enjoyed the story of someone that had been so emotionally broken, getting healed.

EDI: It is good to know that Jack has thus far survived the Reaper invasion. I have amusing memories of her attempts to insert additions into my reports to the Illusive Man. Most of them centered around inappropriate use of the word 'cockpit'.

Had intended for Shep to end up with Tali in the end though. She's too sweet not to. Tali is about the only person Joker won't make a crack about when she comes on board.

Says something how much they hook me in the characters that I got halfway through ME3 again and am going to restart. Unfortunately the ME2 play through I just did, I locked into Jack right away. I'd have to replay the whole game practically to switch to Tali. Have an older ME2 Shep with Tali I'll use instead. Also will let me complete the buggy Hanar ambassador mission I couldn't complete this time because i left the Citadel and that makes the terminals you're supposed to check stop working.

You can get Tali in 3. Just have to talk to her every chance and deny everyone else. Including Steve, lol.

You can only continue with Tali, Jack or Miranda if you were involved with them in ME2. I did the conversation with Tali that is supposed to lock her in, but it didn't do it since my imported save had been with Jack. At which point I checked the wiki and noticed the "Only if continued from Mass Effect 2" part listed for those three.

Hmm never noticed. I assumed that all the playable characters were romaceable.

 

[thecatch]

I got curious from the earlier conversation and did some googling.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, but they didn't have a definitive plot for the series. They had ideas but then the ending for 3 was far different from what the original guy guiding the first two had in mind.

BioWare once intended Mass Effect 3 to end differently than it did. One possible ending concerned the spread of Dark Energy - a force used for mass effect fields and biotic powers. It goes that Reapers were created to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which would ultimately destroy everything. That's why Reapers, every 50,000 years or so, processed (turned into a Reaper) an entire species - to slow the spread of Dark Energy. The Human Reaper was to be the last throw of the dice for the Reapers. The ending of Mass Effect 3 would be you deciding whether to sacrifice the entire human race, and create a Human Reaper, or take your chances that humanity could come up with another alternative.

That explains why ME2 had the dark energy destroying the star in Tali's recruitment mission. It also bugged me that they had the ME2 Reaper at the end look human suggesting perhaps each Reaper reflects the race whose DNA it is built from, but that ME3 then the Reapers all look alike (though they do mention in the Codex they are each structurally unique).

As far as my comments in the other thread, the main point I was trying to get across there (while avoiding being too spoilery for whoever was thinking of playing it), was that Leviathan basically give the backstory so you know there is an intelligence that created the Reapers and it is still functioning and trying to complete its objective. So when you encounter the Catalyst it flows out of the story. Without Leviathan, the Catalyst seems like it would feel completely contrived and coming out of left field.

Incidentally, also read the actual ending didn't shape up until right near the end, and was pretty much 1 person responsible for deciding how it would go.

Casey Hudson was the one guy.Yes the dark energy plot was from the original writer who was canned for ME3. It may have been good but there wasn't much detail given and the writer has since said he never really fleshed it out so stop bugging him about it. They beat us over the head in ME2 though with Dark Energy clues. Then nothing in ME3.

In fact 3 they feel was originally going for the deep psychological ending where Shepard is going through the process of indoctrination throughout ME3 (the dreams, reaper noises, mental fatigue, the whole catalyst ending). But the extended cut pretty much shot that to pieces. We'll never know if that was their intention or not.

I still maintain that would have been the best plot twist since KOTOR.

 

[Insein]

I got curious from the earlier conversation and did some googling.

I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, but they didn't have a definitive plot for the series. They had ideas but then the ending for 3 was far different from what the original guy guiding the first two had in mind.

BioWare once intended Mass Effect 3 to end differently than it did. One possible ending concerned the spread of Dark Energy - a force used for mass effect fields and biotic powers. It goes that Reapers were created to stop the spread of Dark Energy, which would ultimately destroy everything. That's why Reapers, every 50,000 years or so, processed (turned into a Reaper) an entire species - to slow the spread of Dark Energy. The Human Reaper was to be the last throw of the dice for the Reapers. The ending of Mass Effect 3 would be you deciding whether to sacrifice the entire human race, and create a Human Reaper, or take your chances that humanity could come up with another alternative.

That explains why ME2 had the dark energy destroying the star in Tali's recruitment mission. It also bugged me that they had the ME2 Reaper at the end look human suggesting perhaps each Reaper reflects the race whose DNA it is built from, but that ME3 then the Reapers all look alike (though they do mention in the Codex they are each structurally unique).

As far as my comments in the other thread, the main point I was trying to get across there (while avoiding being too spoilery for whoever was thinking of playing it), was that Leviathan basically give the backstory so you know there is an intelligence that created the Reapers and it is still functioning and trying to complete its objective. So when you encounter the Catalyst it flows out of the story. Without Leviathan, the Catalyst seems like it would feel completely contrived and coming out of left field.

Incidentally, also read the actual ending didn't shape up until right near the end, and was pretty much 1 person responsible for deciding how it would go.

Casey Hudson was the one guy.Yes the dark energy plot was from the original writer who was canned for ME3. It may have been good but there wasn't much detail given and the writer has since said he never really fleshed it out so stop bugging him about it. They beat us over the head in ME2 though with Dark Energy clues. Then nothing in ME3.

In fact 3 they feel was originally going for the deep psychological ending where Shepard is going through the process of indoctrination throughout ME3 (the dreams, reaper noises, mental fatigue, the whole catalyst ending). But the extended cut pretty much shot that to pieces. We'll never know if that was their intention or not.

I still maintain that would have been the best plot twist since KOTOR.

Absolutely. It would have made a pretty good game into a legendary game.

 

[GregR]

How many salarians does it take to make a sandwich?

Spoiler

Depends on the krogan's appetite.

A batarian, a vorcha, and a krogan are in a hovercar. Who's driving?

Spoiler

C-Sec!

 

[Insein]

Why don't asari wear miniskirts?
They like going commando.