***Official*** MNF Gamethread (1 Viewer)

[jchapman70]

Ive watched a few Carolina games this year. I can say with confidence that Jake Delhomme is the main reason for them losing all these close games. But its not like they can put in Weinke.

I've watched them all....and you are correct...except this time MESHAWN ran a horrible route!!! Goodbye playoffs see you next year I hope.

 

[Capella]

no sense going for the tie I guess.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Lito had a bit of jersery there, but considering how often big WR's like Johnson get away with offensive pass interference, I like the non call.

 

[fred_1_15301]

no sense going for the tie I guess.

With your playoff hopes on the line, how do you not at least send this game to OT? Unreal!!!

 

[Capella]

Ive watched a few Carolina games this year. I can say with confidence that Jake Delhomme is the main reason for them losing all these close games. But its not like they can put in Weinke.

He's been making stupid throws (off his back foot, heave it in the air) for years now. Been bailed out by Steve Smith. Glad it's biting him in the ###, can't stand the guy.

 

[Limp Ditka]

I think that it will stay close and both teams will focus on the run.. Westbrook and DWill both get over a hundred and a score.Eagles win 28 to 24

Rats....I missed the score. It is going to be 27 to 24. Westbrook 124 and 1 TD, D Will 178 and 1 TD.Garcia not special, but good enough for a big W.

Not special?300 and 3TDs qualifies as what then?

 

[rzrback77]

I think that it will stay close and both teams will focus on the run.. Westbrook and DWill both get over a hundred and a score.Eagles win 28 to 24

Rats....I missed the score. It is going to be 27 to 24. Westbrook 124 and 1 TD, D Will 178 and 1 TD.Garcia not special, but good enough for a big W.

Not special?300 and 3TDs qualifies as what then?

Everybody on the board has been ragging him all game. Bit of sarcasm.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

DAWill - SLEEPER OF THE WEEK!!!!!

Shouldn't have been to big a sleeper. DWILL is going up against a Defense that has given up nearly 135 yards rushing per game this year...plus the last 4 games I think the average has been close to 180 per game.

There were a number of folks who said he'd not get 10 touches.

With DeShaun out who else would get them???? Goings?????????????????????

Hey, I'm not arguing.....

 

[hotdogcollars]

can all those idiot eagles fans calling for AJ Feeley please shut up now? And this is coming from a guy who spent 25 years in philly going to every single Eagles home game.

seriously, having been out of philly now for a few years, and gaining some perspective, it looks REALLY bad when you boo the eagles QB when he gets up from a big hit because you wanted him to stay down.

Are you watching the game?He's throwing wounded ducks 1/2 the time.

yep, watching it, but do you remember AJ when he played a few years back. check out these game logs. he was AWFUL. Except for the skins game, the eagles just won because of their D

I don't see how you call that awful. Over 50% completions, 4 of 5 games. 4-1 record. 5-6 TD/INT. Mediocre maybe, possibly above average. Certainly not awful.From a football standpoint - Feeley has a better arm. Go back a few weeks and read my Dynasty Watch on Feeley. Garcia now is not the Garcia then.

ok, maybe awful was an exaggeration, but i just remember him having a noodle arm and getting away with a lot of bad throws (more than garcia). anyway, eagles will go as far as their d takes them regardless of who's at QB

 

[jchapman70]

DAWill - SLEEPER OF THE WEEK!!!!!

Shouldn't have been to big a sleeper. DWILL is going up against a Defense that has given up nearly 135 yards rushing per game this year...plus the last 4 games I think the average has been close to 180 per game.

There were a number of folks who said he'd not get 10 touches.

With DeShaun out who else would get them???? Goings?????????????????????

Hey, I'm not arguing.....

 

[billyjoe]

I'd like to add, that Lito made an extremely good play.

What do you expect in that situation, a fade to MeShawn.

Right at the 5 yard point, he jams him hard, then falls back to where the ball should be on a fade pattern. That was just very well played. He knew what was coming. It was very predictable, and Lito who's a probowl DB played it masterfully.

With those TOs, you simply need to run the ball at least once, then maybe a toss to Williams, and don't even take the chance of an INT.

They weren't "going for the win". They ran a hugely predictable fade route to MeShawn, that Philly played perfectly.

 

[[scooter]]

I don't see how you call that awful. Over 50% completions, 4 of 5 games. 4-1 record. 5-6 TD/INT. Mediocre maybe, possibly above average. Certainly not awful.

Average completion % = 59%Average passer rating = 79.1

Average yards/game = 205

Average yards/attempt = 6.7

Average TD-INT ratio = 1.25

And by "average", I went with the 20th-best number for each category. I figured that was indicitive of what an average NFL QB would do.

Anyway, Feeley was below average in every single category.

 

[Marc Levin]

Just before the DeAngelo TD, they had a graphic that showed Keyshawn catching a TD pass from 12 different players. Then the graphic said it was the 3rd most active. For the life of me I can't figure out the top two...anyone else know?

Joey Galloway????

I don't know whether he caught enough TDs in the Dallas years to have caught TDs from more QBs, even though the Dallas backfield was a rotating sieve.But, I'd guess Moulds Galloway and Proehl have to be most likely .

while in Seatle the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not specifically to Galloway)

Rick Mirer

John Friesz

Gino Toretta

Warren Moon

John Kitna

Glenn Foley

While in Dallas the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not speficially to Galloway)

Troy Aikman

Randall Cunningham

CLint Stoerner

Quincy Carter

Ryan Leaf

Chad Hutchinson

while with TB the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not speficially to Galloway)

Brian Griese

Brad Johnson

Chris Simms

Bruce Gradkowski

But, while in Dallas, Galloway had very few TD passes (1 in '00, 3 in '01, 6 in '02, and 2 in '03). The number of QBs was not what I was questioning - the number of TDs from the big block of QBs in Dallas is my question. I would guess he probably had a TD pass from all, or nearly all, of the TB and Seattle QBs - that is 9 or 10 before you get to the Dallas QBs.

 

[Marc Levin]

can all those idiot eagles fans calling for AJ Feeley please shut up now? And this is coming from a guy who spent 25 years in philly going to every single Eagles home game.

seriously, having been out of philly now for a few years, and gaining some perspective, it looks REALLY bad when you boo the eagles QB when he gets up from a big hit because you wanted him to stay down.

Are you watching the game?He's throwing wounded ducks 1/2 the time.

yep, watching it, but do you remember AJ when he played a few years back. check out these game logs. he was AWFUL. Except for the skins game, the eagles just won because of their D

I don't see how you call that awful. Over 50% completions, 4 of 5 games. 4-1 record. 5-6 TD/INT. Mediocre maybe, possibly above average. Certainly not awful.From a football standpoint - Feeley has a better arm. Go back a few weeks and read my Dynasty Watch on Feeley. Garcia now is not the Garcia then.

ok, maybe awful was an exaggeration, but i just remember him having a noodle arm and getting away with a lot of bad throws

With these kind of credentials, and with the Dolphins needing someone better than Harrington if Culpepper can't come back strong, I think the Dolphins should send the Eagles a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Feely.Oh, wait . . .

 

[scratcher]

Eh, I a huge Lito fan but that was pass interference.

I thought that at first, but watching the replays there was no contact outside of the jam at the line.

 

[Righetti]

Just before the DeAngelo TD, they had a graphic that showed Keyshawn catching a TD pass from 12 different players. Then the graphic said it was the 3rd most active. For the life of me I can't figure out the top two...anyone else know?

Joey Galloway????

I don't know whether he caught enough TDs in the Dallas years to have caught TDs from more QBs, even though the Dallas backfield was a rotating sieve.But, I'd guess Moulds Galloway and Proehl have to be most likely .

while in Seatle the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not specifically to Galloway)

Rick Mirer

John Friesz

Gino Toretta

Warren Moon

John Kitna

Glenn Foley

While in Dallas the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not speficially to Galloway)

Troy Aikman

Randall Cunningham

CLint Stoerner

Quincy Carter

Ryan Leaf

Chad Hutchinson

while with TB the following QB's threw at least 1 TD (not speficially to Galloway)

Brian Griese

Brad Johnson

Chris Simms

Bruce Gradkowski

But, while in Dallas, Galloway had very few TD passes (1 in '00, 3 in '01, 6 in '02, and 2 in '03). The number of QBs was not what I was questioning - the number of TDs from the big block of QBs in Dallas is my question. I would guess he probably had a TD pass from all, or nearly all, of the TB and Seattle QBs - that is 9 or 10 before you get to the Dallas QBs.

you could be right.. i put it in a seperate thread as I'm interested to know if anybody knows the answer..

 

[Marc Levin]

you could be right.. i put it in a seperate thread as I'm interested to know if anybody knows the answer..

Well, I believe Galloway's a front runner to be one of the two active players above Keyshawn on the list.regardless, I think we've nailed the top-4 with Proehl, Galloway, Keyshawn and MouldsAnyone esle? McCardell, maybe?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Is Delhomme crying right now or does he just have allergies?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Eh, I a huge Lito fan but that was pass interference.

I thought that at first, but watching the replays there was no contact outside of the jam at the line.

Right. If anything, Lito was protecting himself, as had he not done that, Johnson likely would have pushed off, caught the ball for a touchdown, and offensive PI would not have been called.

 

[sparkky]

What happened to LJ Smith tonite? I kind of looked for him and never saw him on the field.

 

[Flying V]

Is Delhomme crying right now or does he just have allergies?

He's allergic to interceptions.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Is Delhomme crying right now or does he just have allergies?

He's allergic to interceptions.

Actually if he was allergic to interceptions, he probably wouldn't be throwing so many.

 

[suchislife]

Right at the 5 yard point, he jams him hard, then falls back to where the ball should be on a fade pattern. That was just very well played. He knew what was coming. It was very predictable, and Lito who's a probowl DB played it masterfully.

During his post game PC, Shepperd said he saw Delhomme tap his rear end. From watching game film, he knew that was a signal for that pattern. All he had to do was maintain outside position so he could make a play on the ball.

 

[AB in DC]

What happened to LJ Smith tonite? I kind of looked for him and never saw him on the field.

bumpGarcia threw to him plenty in his first two games...today, zero?

 

[Gargoylez]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.

I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...

Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

 

[Lombaowski]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

 

[Godsbrother]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

So if the Eagles would have sacked Delhomme once then they wouldn't suck?

 

[suchislife]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

Some might say you lost the league because your FFL team sucks. The Eagles won...how'd your team do? Oh, and feel free to continue your whining over in the venting thread.

 

[bryhamm]

Right at the 5 yard point, he jams him hard, then falls back to where the ball should be on a fade pattern. That was just very well played. He knew what was coming. It was very predictable, and Lito who's a probowl DB played it masterfully.

Can you jam if the ball is already in the air. Seems like no one mentioned it, so I assume you can. But how is that not pass interference?

 

[Gargoylez]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

Some might say you lost the league because your FFL team sucks. The Eagles won...how'd your team do? Oh, and feel free to continue your whining over in the venting thread.

I took 2nd over-all in a 15 year old league filled with fanatics and sharks. Thats how I did. I should of made myself clear. What the Iggles are known for... blitzing... and getting to the QB... I guess they did somewhat, but for a team with that REP to not get ONE sack? Thats ridiculous. I ended up 11-2 and lost by PF tie breaker... because the other 11-2 team had LT and more points. Beating the Panthers is not that GREAT of an accomplishment. Since the Eagles won, the Philly fans will be out, but as soon as they lose... they go hide somewhere, at least the majority of them. Lets home the Beagles lose quickly...

 

[Limp Ditka]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

Some might say you lost the league because your FFL team sucks. The Eagles won...how'd your team do? Oh, and feel free to continue your whining over in the venting thread.

I took 2nd over-all in a 15 year old league filled with fanatics and sharks. Thats how I did. I should of made myself clear. What the Iggles are known for... blitzing... and getting to the QB... I guess they did somewhat, but for a team with that REP to not get ONE sack? Thats ridiculous. I ended up 11-2 and lost by PF tie breaker... because the other 11-2 team had LT and more points. Beating the Panthers is not that GREAT of an accomplishment. Since the Eagles won, the Philly fans will be out, but as soon as they lose... they go hide somewhere, at least the majority of them. Lets home the Beagles lose quickly...

Maybe if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that the Philly passrush has disappeared, recording only 6 sacks over their last 5 games going into last night.Oh, and

 

[Gargoylez]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

Some might say you lost the league because your FFL team sucks. The Eagles won...how'd your team do? Oh, and feel free to continue your whining over in the venting thread.

I took 2nd over-all in a 15 year old league filled with fanatics and sharks. Thats how I did. I should of made myself clear. What the Iggles are known for... blitzing... and getting to the QB... I guess they did somewhat, but for a team with that REP to not get ONE sack? Thats ridiculous. I ended up 11-2 and lost by PF tie breaker... because the other 11-2 team had LT and more points. Beating the Panthers is not that GREAT of an accomplishment. Since the Eagles won, the Philly fans will be out, but as soon as they lose... they go hide somewhere, at least the majority of them. Lets home the Beagles lose quickly...

Maybe if you were paying attention, you would have noticed that the Philly passrush has disappeared, recording only 6 sacks over their last 5 games going into last night.Oh, and

My last add drop was 4 weeks ago. There was no real defense worth getting at that point anyways.Eagles suck. That is all there is too it...and btw... = Very old hat.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Iggles couldnt manage ONE sack? Not ONE sack? The blitzing scheme of the Eagles and they get ZERO sacks? How did Carolina LOSE????? It had to be Delhomme. Cry some more POS.I lost the league by a tie breaker because all the eagles D could do is get 2 INT's. I kept these losers because they blitz alot and they seem to get alot of Sacks...Not tonight. Eagles suck. They are just lucky Carolina Sucks worse.

Some might say you lost the league because your FFL team sucks. The Eagles won...how'd your team do? Oh, and feel free to continue your whining over in the venting thread.

I took 2nd over-all in a 15 year old league filled with fanatics and sharks. Thats how I did. I should of made myself clear. What the Iggles are known for... blitzing... and getting to the QB... I guess they did somewhat, but for a team with that REP to not get ONE sack? Thats ridiculous. I ended up 11-2 and lost by PF tie breaker... because the other 11-2 team had LT and more points. Beating the Panthers is not that GREAT of an accomplishment. Since the Eagles won, the Philly fans will be out, but as soon as they lose... they go hide somewhere, at least the majority of them. Lets home the Beagles lose quickly...

All those 15 year-old sharks must be terrified.