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***Official No One Cares About Soccer Thread (1 Viewer)

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Since we didn't have enough threads about the World Cup and/or soccer.

:goodposting: at all the polls. No, winning the World Cup wouldn't matter to anyone. No, it wouldn't be bigger than the 1980 Olympic hockey team. No, beating Serbia and advancing to the round freaking 2 is not top 5 in anything (unless it's a "Who Cares?" list).

If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. If it happened every once in a while, then I could accept it as a wiley veteran type move. But the fact that it's constant just p*ssifies the "sport" even more. I mean, at the opening ceremony they had a video of all the famous dives from previous World Cup play. Nice.

 
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If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before. Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not. Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
 
I prefer to think of it as political allegory, like George Orwell did:

"Football," he wrote,

is not really played for the pleasure of kicking a ball about, but is a species of fighting. The lovers of football are large, boisterous, nobbly boys who are good at knocking down and trampling on slightly smaller boys. That was the pattern of school life — a continuous triumph of the strong over the weak. Virtue consisted in winning: it consisted in being bigger, stronger, handsomer, richer, more popular, more elegant, more unscrupulous than other people — in dominating them, bullying them, making them suffer pain, making them look foolish, getting the better of them in every way. Life was hierarchical and whatever happened was right. There were the strong, who deserved to win and always did win, and there were the weak, who deserved to lose and always did lose, everlastingly.

 
If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before. Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not. Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
Darn :goodposting: Plus, diving is a penalty in hockey. Hockey = man's gamesoccer = kids game
 
If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before. Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not. Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
Darn :goodposting: Plus, diving is a penalty in hockey. Hockey = man's gamesoccer = kids game
It's also a penalty in soccer, big guy.The irony of a Penguins fan whining about diving is off the charts.(For the uninitiated, go to google or youtube and type in Crosby Dive. But before you do, block off the next several months on your calendar to review the results)
 
If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before.

Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not.

Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
This is classic.

Hockey players stay on the ice for, on average, less than a minute at the time before they need a breather. Soccer players never leave the field.

I love hockey, by the way. Just wondering if the hockey fans in the FFA have caught a case of the stupids from Sheriff or something

 
Hockey, basketball, soccer, lacrosse, etc... its all the same game, they just use different means of putting the object in the goal. I find them all boring to watch on TV, but to each his own. If I had a gun to my head Id probably watch soccer over the others just for the cultural craziness.

 
Not a soccer fan but I'm very interested in the World Cup as I am with any big Event. I'm not Hockey or Basketball fan but I'll watch the Stanley Cup, March Madness and NBA Playoffs (or at least a bit of it). Not an MMA guy but I'll watch if it's a big fight, same with boxing. heck, even watched a little Wimbledon

As a working married adult with a kid, I have very little time to follow any team/sport. I'll always watch the big events though.

 
diving is a penalty in hockey.
It's also a penalty in soccer, big guy.
How often is it called? I've seen at least 25 dives over the past couple weeks and I didn't even know it was against the rules, let alone seen a penalty called for it.
not as often as it should.

Most of the soccer nerds agree that their should be some sort of after game evaluation of dives. if they are found to be diving, they need to give suspensions and fines. Expecting a single ref to see this from 20 yards away all the time is not going to work (and pretty clearly does not work from the evidence we have).

I love the sport, and I would also love to see the diving removed.

 
If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before.

Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not.

Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
This is classic.

Hockey players stay on the ice for, on average, less than a minute at the time before they need a breather. Soccer players never leave the field.

I love hockey, by the way. Just wondering if the hockey fans in the FFA have caught a case of the stupids from Sheriff or something
:thumbup: It's not that the player's need a breather, it's that if they get tired they can't keep up with a fresh line that the other team puts out there. Sure, they could put one line out there and let them play 60 minutes, but then you get a watered down, slow, boring game. A game where players stand around and then pick and choose their spots to try to make a play instead of going balls to the wall from start to finish. We don't need another sport like that, we already have soccer.

 
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Not a soccer fan but I'm very interested in the World Cup as I am with any big Event. I'm not Hockey or Basketball fan but I'll watch the Stanley Cup, March Madness and NBA Playoffs (or at least a bit of it). Not an MMA guy but I'll watch if it's a big fight, same with boxing. heck, even watched a little Wimbledon

As a working married adult with a kid, I have very little time to follow any team/sport. I'll always watch the big events though.
I feel like more and more of America is becoming like this. Our lives are so busy that sometimes it is the big events that we wake up for.
 
diving is a penalty in hockey.
It's also a penalty in soccer, big guy.
How often is it called? I've seen at least 25 dives over the past couple weeks and I didn't even know it was against the rules, let alone seen a penalty called for it.
not as often as it should.

Most of the soccer nerds agree that their should be some sort of after game evaluation of dives. if they are found to be diving, they need to give suspensions and fines. Expecting a single ref to see this from 20 yards away all the time is not going to work (and pretty clearly does not work from the evidence we have).

I love the sport, and I would also love to see the diving removed.
An announcer put it pretty well the other day. He said something about soccer having a culture of complaining that the sport can do without. I get the impression everyone would like to see the flopping or diving or whatever it's called eliminated.
 
I love the sport, and I would also love to see the diving removed.
I think most soccer fans feel this way.
I think most US soccer fans feel this way.I know the English fans feel this way.I am uncertain as to anywhere else where diving is considered as horrible as we feel it to be. In important soccer countries like Italy and Spain, it seems to be part of the soccer culture. With out a massive out cry from fans of the majority of nations, not much will change. FIFA makes MLB looks incredibly mobile when it comes to fixing issues in its sport.
 
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I prefer to think of it as political allegory, like George Orwell did: "Football," he wrote,is not really played for the pleasure of kicking a ball about, but is a species of fighting. The lovers of football are large, boisterous, nobbly boys who are good at knocking down and trampling on slightly smaller boys. That was the pattern of school life — a continuous triumph of the strong over the weak. Virtue consisted in winning: it consisted in being bigger, stronger, handsomer, richer, more popular, more elegant, more unscrupulous than other people — in dominating them, bullying them, making them suffer pain, making them look foolish, getting the better of them in every way. Life was hierarchical and whatever happened was right. There were the strong, who deserved to win and always did win, and there were the weak, who deserved to lose and always did lose, everlastingly.
Sounds like somebody got stuffed into a few lockers.
 
diving is a penalty in hockey.
It's also a penalty in soccer, big guy.
How often is it called? I've seen at least 25 dives over the past couple weeks and I didn't even know it was against the rules, let alone seen a penalty called for it.
I've seen it called several times in this World Cup, including a yellow card for the game's biggest star, Christiano Rolando, in his first game.Don't see it called that often in hockey either.

 
If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting.
Diving happens in other sports, but in Soccer it's the dramatic "rolling around like I've been shot" routine that makes me go bonkers. After a dive in hockey, the player will at least get up and keep playing. Not in soccer. They have to wait for the stretcher to be carried on to the field at which time the player makes a miraculous recovery and gets on his feet.If something like this happened in football, the player would get laughed off the team. Hockey players have played with broken ankles before.

Another part that irks me in Soccer is that the championship can be settled with penalty kicks. To me, a penalty kick is essentially a flip of the coin. The goalie has to guess the direction before the ball is off the kicker's foot. Guess wrong, goal. Guess right, maybe not.

Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
This is classic.

Hockey players stay on the ice for, on average, less than a minute at the time before they need a breather. Soccer players never leave the field.

I love hockey, by the way. Just wondering if the hockey fans in the FFA have caught a case of the stupids from Sheriff or something
:mellow: It's not that the player's need a breather, it's that if they get tired they can't keep up with a fresh line that the other team puts out there. Sure, they could put one line out there and let them play 60 minutes, but then you get a watered down, slow, boring game. A game where players stand around and then pick and choose their spots to try to make a play instead of going balls to the wall from start to finish. We don't need another sport like that, we already have soccer.
I know, right? It's almost like they're totally different sports, making a comparison of the demands of the two ridiculous on its face.I'll put you in touch with my friend Zasada.

 
Since we didn't have enough threads about the World Cup and/or soccer. :confused: at all the polls. No, winning the World Cup wouldn't matter to anyone. No, it wouldn't be bigger than the 1980 Olympic hockey team. No, beating Serbia and advancing to the round freaking 2 is not top 5 in anything (unless it's a "Who Cares?" list).If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. If it happened every once in a while, then I could accept it as a wiley veteran type move. But the fact that it's constant just p*ssifies the "sport" even more. I mean, at the opening ceremony they had a video of all the famous dives from previous World Cup play. Nice.
This just in:No one also cares about your lineup in your fantasy league.HTH
 
Since we didn't have enough threads about the World Cup and/or soccer. :rolleyes: at all the polls. No, winning the World Cup wouldn't matter to anyone. No, it wouldn't be bigger than the 1980 Olympic hockey team. No, beating Serbia and advancing to the round freaking 2 is not top 5 in anything (unless it's a "Who Cares?" list).If there's nothing else that makes soccer a joke, it's all the diving. Absolutely ridiculous and disgusting. If it happened every once in a while, then I could accept it as a wiley veteran type move. But the fact that it's constant just p*ssifies the "sport" even more. I mean, at the opening ceremony they had a video of all the famous dives from previous World Cup play. Nice.
This just in:No one also cares about your lineup in your fantasy league.HTH
I'm actually a bit intrigued to see if Lynell Hamilton remains on his roster this season.
 
Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
This is classic.

Hockey players stay on the ice for, on average, less than a minute at the time before they need a breather. Soccer players never leave the field.

I love hockey, by the way. Just wondering if the hockey fans in the FFA have caught a case of the stupids from Sheriff or something
You obviously missed my point. While I did call the Soccer players "panzies" (I'll put a hockey player up against any soccer player on toughness) my point was more about a championship being decided by (in essense) a coin flip versus playing the actual game.ETA: If hockey ever let shootouts creep into the playoffs, that would be where I stop watching. I'm an equal-opportunity hater.

 
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Hockey has it best. Sudden death, play until somebody scores. Even if you double the length of the game (some of the best hockey games have been 3-4 OT affairs). Then maybe we'd see some of those Soccer panzies actually do some work for their win.
This is classic.

Hockey players stay on the ice for, on average, less than a minute at the time before they need a breather. Soccer players never leave the field.

I love hockey, by the way. Just wondering if the hockey fans in the FFA have caught a case of the stupids from Sheriff or something
You obviously missed my point. While I did call the Soccer players "panzies" (I'll put a hockey player up against any soccer player on toughness) my point was more about a championship being decided by (in essense) a coin flip versus playing the actual game.
Right! It would be a travesty if a team gets into the playoffs on the final day of the season by virtue of a 1-goal shootout win, then goes onto knock off a whole bunch of higher seeded teams to reach the Cup finals.
 
I know, right? It's almost like they're totally different sports, making a comparison of the demands of the two ridiculous on its face.I'll put you in touch with my friend Zasada.
They're both entertainment. One is boring, has drama queens flopping all over the field, and uses a stupid shootout method to decide a championship. The other is fast, has players making contact with each other where neither grabs his face and rolls around like he's been shot, and has no shootout deciding a championship.Watching Soccer is like watching golf. If it weren't an event, the sport itself is about as interesting as high-intensity checkers.
 
You obviously missed my point. While I did call the Soccer players "panzies" (I'll put a hockey player up against any soccer player on toughness) my point was more about a championship being decided by (in essense) a coin flip versus playing the actual game.
Right! It would be a travesty if a team gets into the playoffs on the final day of the season by virtue of a 1-goal shootout win, then goes onto knock off a whole bunch of higher seeded teams to reach the Cup finals.
Every sport has that problem about any single game during the course of a season deciding things. But when I'm watching the championship, I kind of expect that game to be decided by the game and not random chance.
 
You obviously missed my point. While I did call the Soccer players "panzies" (I'll put a hockey player up against any soccer player on toughness) my point was more about a championship being decided by (in essense) a coin flip versus playing the actual game.
Right! It would be a travesty if a team gets into the playoffs on the final day of the season by virtue of a 1-goal shootout win, then goes onto knock off a whole bunch of higher seeded teams to reach the Cup finals.
Every sport has that problem about any single game during the course of a season deciding things. But when I'm watching the championship, I kind of expect that game to be decided by the game and not random chance.
NFL uses a coin flip.
 
Every sport has that problem about any single game during the course of a season deciding things. But when I'm watching the championship, I kind of expect that game to be decided by the game and not random chance.
NFL uses a coin flip.
I don't agree with that either. But at least in this case it only decides who gets the ball first. If Soccer used a coin flip to determine who first got the ball or potentially even a free kick from somewhere inside half field, I'd be OK with that. But penalty kicks have always been random chance.
 
You obviously missed my point. While I did call the Soccer players "panzies" (I'll put a hockey player up against any soccer player on toughness) my point was more about a championship being decided by (in essense) a coin flip versus playing the actual game.
Right! It would be a travesty if a team gets into the playoffs on the final day of the season by virtue of a 1-goal shootout win, then goes onto knock off a whole bunch of higher seeded teams to reach the Cup finals.
Every sport has that problem about any single game during the course of a season deciding things. But when I'm watching the championship, I kind of expect that game to be decided by the game and not random chance.
NFL uses a coin flip.
:lol: He's just sayin'...
 

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