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***Official OHIO STATE-MICHIGAN Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Don't agree at all. They need style points less than anyone. If they win both games by 1 the scenerio is the same. Either Bama or FSU lose and they are 100% in or bama/FSU don't lose and they're 100% out.
I don't think they'd be 100% in over a 1-loss SEC champ.
Exactry.

They need to beat the snot out of both Michigans.
Agreed - Auburn taking out a #1 Alabama and a #4 Missouri will be tough to hold-off. I think we should be able to, but putting up a couple of stinkers and our SOS doesn't make it a sure thing.

 
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All that's left for UM fans is hoping that the top 2 teams win out and stick OSU on the outside looking in for the 2nd straight year, despite not losing a game in either year.

In other words we are not like SEC fans.

 
What is the line anyway?? 20+ ??
15, opened at12
That's a pretty safe bet given the Michigan O-Line is a sieve and I'm pretty sure that Gardner is physically injured....something's not right with that dude.
it sounds bad writing it out, but I hope that last part is true.
Been watching him specifically a lot lately. I don't think it's normal to come off the field after an innocent tackle holding your shoulder the way he does. With that said, he sure doesn't try to do much to avoid contact so who knows.

 
What is the line anyway?? 20+ ??
15, opened at12
That's a pretty safe bet given the Michigan O-Line is a sieve and I'm pretty sure that Gardner is physically injured....something's not right with that dude.
I agree. If I remember, the kid looked good last year and started off this year well. Is that correct?
erratic potential. Good start to the year. Came unglued after that one idiotic play vs notre dame. And completely collapsed after getting his ### kicked vs sparty.
 
What is the line anyway?? 20+ ??
15, opened at12
That's a pretty safe bet given the Michigan O-Line is a sieve and I'm pretty sure that Gardner is physically injured....something's not right with that dude.
I agree. If I remember, the kid looked good last year and started off this year well. Is that correct?
erratic potential. Good start to the year. Came unglued after that one idiotic play vs notre dame. And completely collapsed after getting his ### kicked vs sparty.
I asked this in another thread, but does Michigan not have another option at QB? At least to give Gardner a series or two off to get his head straight?
freshman, but if Gardner is the guy week one next year playing tug of war with him now is not the right move. Next year? Pull the plug early if it's not working.
 
What is the line anyway?? 20+ ??
15, opened at12
That's a pretty safe bet given the Michigan O-Line is a sieve and I'm pretty sure that Gardner is physically injured....something's not right with that dude.
I agree. If I remember, the kid looked good last year and started off this year well. Is that correct?
erratic potential. Good start to the year. Came unglued after that one idiotic play vs notre dame. And completely collapsed after getting his ### kicked vs sparty.
I don't think the whole team has recovered from that ### whoopin'. Sure doesn't seem like it.

 
BigJohn said:
I grew up in the Cooper era, so I won't say ####.
I was in junior high and high school during those years, so I gave a lot of #### to OSU friends.

Now I am a grown up and the people at work give me a lot of ####.

No way I would reverse eras. I saw kids nearly come to tears when their teams lost....sometimes it was tough to watch.

 
WhatDoIKnow said:
The Commish said:
MAC_32 said:
The Commish said:
What is the line anyway?? 20+ ??
15, opened at12
That's a pretty safe bet given the Michigan O-Line is a sieve and I'm pretty sure that Gardner is physically injured....something's not right with that dude.
I agree. If I remember, the kid looked good last year and started off this year well. Is that correct?

ETA: Not sure if it's coaching or him, but he needs to get rid of the ball when he has no other option other than taking a sack.
He's not looked right since the 3rd game of the season IMO. He definitely got beat up against MSU, but he's not what he was the second part of last year or the beginning of this year. Initially, I just dumped it all on the assumption that Borges doesn't know what he's doing, but early in the MSU game he got up really slow after a fairly innocent hit and I've been observing since.

 
Before Buckeye fans start celebrating, I want you to read about the 1969 game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Ohio_State_vs._Michigan_football_game

OSU fans were celebrating before that game began, too. And they were even bigger favorites (17 points) than they are this year.
The only shred of hope I can cling to is that most of the upsets in this series come from OSU wetting themselves. I don't think that happens this year though for the reasons posted above.

 
Before Buckeye fans start celebrating, I want you to read about the 1969 game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Ohio_State_vs._Michigan_football_game

OSU fans were celebrating before that game began, too. And they were even bigger favorites (17 points) than they are this year.
So you are saying you will be laying some ML action on Meechigan?
Maybe a few bucks. But the bigger point is that nothing is guaranteed in a rivalry game.

 
Probably the perfect year for me to the game at AA since I'll be driving through that hole to get further north on Sunday for work Mon/Tue. Not happening though...

 
Before Buckeye fans start celebrating, I want you to read about the 1969 game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_Ohio_State_vs._Michigan_football_game

OSU fans were celebrating before that game began, too. And they were even bigger favorites (17 points) than they are this year.
So you are saying you will be laying some ML action on Meechigan?
Maybe a few bucks. But the bigger point is that nothing is guaranteed in a rivalry game.
Lifelong UM fan and if my wife allowed I would bet our house on O crushing them tomorrow.

 
Every good rivalry involves a little bad blood, and the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry certainly fits that bill. We already know Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke prefer not to refer to each other’s programs by name. Now it seems Ohio’s governor is joining in on the fun.Gov. John Kasich tweeted a resolution on Friday designating this Saturday as “Scarlet Letter Saturday.”

The resolution called for all Ohioans “to avoid using the letter M when possible.” Considering that most Buckeyes refer to Michigan as “the school up north,” this shouldn’t be terribly difficult.

Ohio State, of course, kicks off against Michigan on Saturday in the 110th installment of “The Game.”
http://college-football.si.com/2013/11/29/ohio-state-michigan-governor-scarlet-letter-saturday/

 
Every good rivalry involves a little bad blood, and the Ohio State-Michigan rivalry certainly fits that bill. We already know Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke prefer not to refer to each other’s programs by name. Now it seems Ohio’s governor is joining in on the fun.

Gov. John Kasich tweeted a resolution on Friday designating this Saturday as “Scarlet Letter Saturday.”

The resolution called for all Ohioans “to avoid using the letter M when possible.” Considering that most Buckeyes refer to Michigan as “the school up north,” this shouldn’t be terribly difficult.

Ohio State, of course, kicks off against Michigan on Saturday in the 110th installment of “The Game.”
http://college-football.si.com/2013/11/29/ohio-state-michigan-governor-scarlet-letter-saturday/
Yeah...this isn't fun. It's serious business mister!!!! In honor of the moronic politician from Ohio, I will post through the game to his wishes :lol: It's the only fun I'm gonna have today anyway :bag:

 
I took OSU - 14 1/2 4 days ago. My final prediction. OSU- 45 Michigan-17

My oldest daughter is in her first year of Med School at Michigan, so I have to fake like I am cheering for M. I bet 250.00 so if I win it may pay for 1/2 of a text book.

 
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I don't think it's wise for you to use gambling lingo, when you have no idea wtf you're saying. Pretty sure that was the point.

 
ANN ARBOR, Mich., Nov. 20 -- Ohio State's players filed out of their locker room at Michigan Stadium awash in emotions they had routinely inflicted upon their opponents throughout a season gone suddenly and stunningly sour.

Frustration, disbelief and dismay -- strangers to the fifth-ranked Buckeyes all year -- this time rained down on OSU in the aftermath of a 28-0 beating as crushing as it was shocking.

Along with hopes for an unbeaten season and revenge for an 0-4-1 record against the Wolverines since 1988, Ohio State surrendered control of a chance for its first outright Big Ten championship and Rose Bowl berth in nine years.

"We were in the driver's seat, but now we're in the back seat waiting for something to happen to Wisconsin," OSU safety Chico Nelson said. "We were supposed to win this game and go to the Rose Bowl, but it didn't happen."

Now it won't, unless Wisconsin loses or ties Dec. 4 against Michigan State in Tokyo.

Ohio State, 9-1-1 overall, will have its choice of a berth in the Citrus Bowl on Jan. 1 in Orlando or the Holiday Bowl Dec. 30 in San Diego unless it benefits from a Michigan State upset in a city 6,600 miles from Columbus.

Wisconsin enters that game with a 5-1-1 Big Ten record after a 35-10 victory yesterday at Illinois.

OSU, although ahead of Wisconsin in the standings for the moment at 6-1-1, cannot win a tiebreaker for the Rose Bowl berth because its last visit to Pasadena predated the Badgers' by 22 years.

"If we go out and play a championship game like we did today, we don't deserve to go to the Rose Bowl," OSU defensive tackle Dan Wilkinson said.

Michigan proved that point, using four interceptions, 105 rushing yards from Tyrone Wheatley and a pair of highlight-reel receptions to hammer OSU with a dominance that belied its 6-4 record.

And that was just the first half.

"It's the most embarrassing game I think I've ever been associated with since I've been coaching college football," said OSU's John Cooper, stunned by the margin that matched Michigan's 31-3 undressing of the Buckeyes on their last visit two years ago. "We got outplayed every way possible."

Wheatley left the field for the day with five minutes left in the second quarter, but by then he had ripped off a 43-yard gain to set up Michigan's first touchdown and a 19-yarder from the OSU 5 to jump-start the Wolverines' second scoring drive.

Mercury Hayes supplied Michigan's 7-0 lead at 6:34 of the first quarter, twisting for an over-the-shoulder grab of Todd Collins' 25-yard pass.

Sticking with its rotating quarterback system of the last half-season, OSU relieved Bob Hoying with Bret Powers late in the first quarter and suffered from the move.

Interceptions by Alfie Burch, Ty Law and Chuck Winters chased Powers, who on his three series tossed as many interceptions as he had all season.

Michigan seized upon the first turnover to drive 95 yards for a 14-0 lead, with most of that tracing to Derrick Alexander's diving grab of a 50-yard Collins throw off a fake reverse.

Double-covered, Alexander split OSU's Marlon Kerner and Walter Taylor and held on at the Buckeyes' 1.

"I looked up and lost it in the sun," said Taylor, who ran away from the football as Alexander broke inside. "Marlon was trying to tell me it was going to the other side, but I couldn't get there."

Powers tried to rally OSU, but Winters grabbed his bad throw at midfield and returned it to the Buckeyes' 31.

Wheatley went down on the first snap after that, but it mattered little when backup Ed Davis began banging for the first of his 96 yards.

His four carries and a 10-yard Alexander catch to convert third-and-9 set up Che Foster's 3-yard touchdown reception.

That built a lead that OSU could not touch, particularly with its vaunted running game rendered useless.

"When they know you're going to pass, it makes it real difficult," said Hoying, whose offense gained just 58 yards rushing, its lowest total in 19 games. "We needed to get an early score, and we didn't do it. We just never got a scent of the end zone.

"We never got close to where we thought we were going to get it in. We drove it a couple of times and threw it in the end zone, but they picked it off."

Law intercepted Hoying when he returned shortly before halftime, and another OSU attempt to rally failed on the Buckeyes' first possession of the third quarter.

Punter Tim Williams, in bending to retrieve a low snap, inadvertenly downed the football at the Ohio State 32.

From there, Alexander sped 21 yards on a reverse and Davis did the rest, carrying three times to feed Michigan's 281-yard rushing output and complete the rout.

"If they had played all season like they did today, maybe they would have won the championship again," Cooper said.

Michigan coach Gary Moeller, most probably bound for the Hall of Fame Bowl, didn't argue.

"It was probably our lack of success during the season that helped in our victory," Moeller said. "... We played like we should have all season, with emotion."
 
I would take OSU and the points.
Big gambler?
:lol: I was gonna bust his balls for the ignorance there but glad to see ya beat me to it
Seriously. You think it is wise to take Michigan and the points??? Michigan has played like crap most of the season. Certainly might turn it around for the big game, but that is not the way I would bet it. Michigan really sucks.
You're dumb enough to be a Buckeyes fan. :thumbup:

 
Michigan has moved the ball well. OSUs ground game looks unstoppable at this point. 5-6-7 yards a pop is going to takes its toll. Michigan is going to need some + turnovers to stay in this one.

 

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