SHIZNITTTT
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Well glad to see the players and coaches getting some hardware for a great season. Was disappointed in Mayfield not getting an invite to for the Heisman.
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Maybe Stephen Parker or Dom Alexander will come to the game to get his boys Heisman back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WLLHunussE
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Trevor Knight gone. I think he will end up with K State.
[SIZE=18.0018px]Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops downplayed cornerback Jordan Thomas' arrest Monday during a press conference. He will not be suspended for the Orange Bowl against Clemson Dec. 31.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=18.0018px]Thomas was arrested by Grady County police late Saturday and spent that night and Sunday night in jail for failing to appear in court for a traffic ticket in July.[/SIZE]
"Just a mix-up with the family paying a traffic ticket," Stoops said. "Nothing else to talk about. It’s pretty simple. That happens to everybody."
Thomas was ticketed by Oklahoma Highway Patrol for speeding in July. Court records show he was going 94 mph in a 75 mph zone. His drivers license was suspended Oct. 1 and a warrant was issued Nov. 19.
He was released from jail Monday after paying $321.50 for the ticket and subsequent fees.
Thomas sat out the first quarter of OU's season-opener against Akron and the entire game against Tulsa for unspecified violations of team rules.
[SIZE=18.0018px]Thomas was arrested by Grady County police late Saturday and spent that night and Sunday night in jail for failing to appear in court for a traffic ticket in July.[/SIZE]
"Just a mix-up with the family paying a traffic ticket," Stoops said. "Nothing else to talk about. It’s pretty simple. That happens to everybody."
Thomas was ticketed by Oklahoma Highway Patrol for speeding in July. Court records show he was going 94 mph in a 75 mph zone. His drivers license was suspended Oct. 1 and a warrant was issued Nov. 19.
He was released from jail Monday after paying $321.50 for the ticket and subsequent fees.
Thomas sat out the first quarter of OU's season-opener against Akron and the entire game against Tulsa for unspecified violations of team rules.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Seems that most Sooners fans around here are pretty confident going into the game today. I hope that he Sooners play well today.
Tick
Footballguy
I think it's mostly missed tackles.Clemson has been smart to avoid Sanchez all night, though.
Doctor Detroit
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Great season, have to play Houston and Ohio State next year but they are going to be damn good.
Mr. Pickles
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Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
You have to admire Bob Stoops’ willingness to embrace change.At his age, in his profession, Stoops’ ability to adapt is impressive — rare, almost.Stoops is a 55-year-old football coach who, other than needing to be pressed once in awhile to step outside his famous stubbornness, fully understands that as his sport evolves, so must he evolve.The question now becomes: Can he and Oklahoma evolve one more time?Stoops still has his own way of doing things. He always will. He’ll always be a steel-tough, father figure to his players, he’ll always be fiercely loyal to his staff and his close friends, he’ll always have an arms-length relationship with his fans, he’ll always have his dukes up with the media, and he’ll always play by the rules.But Stoops badly wants to win another national championship.How, then, does he make that happen?Stoops fired two close friends last year. Made his own brother do something he didn’t want to do. Switched offenses, switched quarterbacks, switched back, then switched QBs again. Tried one defense, then tried another, then went back.Wishy-washy or cutting edge? Decide for yourself.But the lessons learned this season — from both the Orange Bowl and the Sugar Bowl — is that the Big 12 Conference is currently not capable of winning a national title.Not when there are dragons out there from the top of the Southeastern Conference and the Atlantic Coast Conference and Big Ten Conference terrorizing the college football countryside.The problem is depth and line play. Could Baylor or TCU or Oklahoma or Oklahoma State from either of the past two seasons win two playoff games against the likes of Florida State or Auburn in 2013 or Alabama or Ohio State or Florida State in 2014 or Clemson or Alabama in 2015?Not a chance.There’s a reason the Big 12 hasn’t won a national championship for more than a decade now.The Big 12’s best team this year (hands down, undisputed, one true champion) was run out of Miami by the ACC champion by three touchdowns. The Big 12’s second-best team (by virtue of a tiebreaker, anyway) was run out of New Orleans by the SEC West runner-up by four touchdowns.The Sooners remain the class of the Big 12, despite a few downturns in recent years. No single Big 12 program — not upstarts Baylor or TCU, not oncoming Oklahoma State, not stale stalwart Texas — has enduring swagger like the Sooners.But currently, OU is caught between a rock and a hard place.To keep up with the Baylors and TCUs of the world, Oklahoma must score, and score a lot. That means a commitment to the spread offense and an up-tempo philosophy.But as has been proven over and over, that puts a significant strain on the defense. Most teams can’t overcome it.Committing to that style of football to compete for conference titles means putting a greater emphasis on wide receivers and defensive backs in recruiting, and that means fewer scholarships for offensive linemen and defensive linemen.Meanwhile, Alabama and Ohio State and Florida State and the like stockpile four- and five-star linemen, while everyone else runs the spread, and guess who wins national championships?Here are the teams that have won national titles since OU in 2000: Miami, Ohio State, LSU, USC, Texas, Florida, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Alabama, Alabama, Florida State, Ohio State and either Alabama or Clemson.While a few of them ran the spread and a few of them ran up-tempo, they all have one thing in common: Every national champion from the last five decades of football ran an offense that utilized fullbacks, tight ends and big, nasty offensive linemen (in Auburn and Florida’s case, a transcendent quarterback was enough to overcome no fullback).In the past five recruiting classes, Alabama has signed 33 four- and five-star offensive and defensive line prospects, according toRivals.com. Ohio State has signed 28, and Florida State 25.Oklahoma? Only 17, with 11 of those coming in 2011 and 2015. From 2012 to 2014, OU signed only six, while the three other programs stacked up 18, 17 and 14, respectively.So what’s the solution?OU sort of has to stick with the gimmicky offense to keep up with Baylor, TCU and the rest. And no need to deride winning nine Big 12 titles in 17 seasons. The spread works — but only to a degree.Maybe a better solution would be to leave the Big 12 for the SEC or the Big Ten and get back to a more traditional offense that can dominate the line of scrimmage like Clemson and Alabama did last week.The league’s grant-of-rights agreement creates a hurdle until 2025, but those leagues do offer significantly higher overall revenue that might help offset any financial hit to TV revenue.Beyond that, given the current system, what those leagues really offer is a chance to build a national championship team.Bob Stoops can embrace that kind of change.
snellman
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Very interesting read, and I agree with most of it.
One thing I don't understand is how they can struggle with the running QB for so long. It goes all the way back to Vince Young. The running QB has always killed OU even with the speed they have.
Doctor Detroit
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Sanchez and Alexander both declared for the draft meaning all 4 Big 12 first team D players are gone. Secondary could actually be better without Sanchez as Parker is likely an upgrade, and they actually have a lot of depth there. Not sure why Alexander went pro, doesn't seem like a high pick but he has the body type and skills to get there. Seemed like one more year in college may have helped his stock some, but who knows.
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
I want to know the general idea of the tactics charlie was using on recruits? He was able to sell 5-7 somehow. And OU couldn’t close after making the damn playoff. CS can’t be that good!? Can he?
Maybe it is time to get some fresh faces on the recruiting scene. I guess Bob is going to have to do sleep overs now to get top talent, or have Jayz and Eminem show recruits around Norman.
If Bob can't sell recruits on coming to OU after last year, I don't know what could. I think that OU finished around 20th in all the recruiting sites yesterday after the big bick up of Caleb Kelly. But, OU still finished 3rd or 4th out of the Big12.
Maybe it is time to get some fresh faces on the recruiting scene. I guess Bob is going to have to do sleep overs now to get top talent, or have Jayz and Eminem show recruits around Norman.
If Bob can't sell recruits on coming to OU after last year, I don't know what could. I think that OU finished around 20th in all the recruiting sites yesterday after the big bick up of Caleb Kelly. But, OU still finished 3rd or 4th out of the Big12.
Tick
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http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/15532945/alabama-crimson-tide-oklahoma-sooners-favorites-first-vegas-lines
Early line is OU favored by 9 over Ohio St. That's pretty jarring.
Early line is OU favored by 9 over Ohio St. That's pretty jarring.
PlasmaDogPlasma
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SHIZNITTTT
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NORMAN — Something momentous happened to Oklahoma football coach Bob Stoops last week, something a little more personal than winning a championship, producing an NFL draft pick or capturing some coach of the year award.
“It means more to me, maybe, than anything,” he said Thursday.
ESPN asked Big 12 and Southeastern Conference coaches going through their cycle of interviews on the Bristol campus: “If you had a son who was an elite football prospect and could play for any coach in America other than yourself, who would be your first choice?”
Stoops won the anonymous poll with five votes, two more than Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio and Stanford’s David Shaw. They could have picked anyone, and they chose him.
It was the second such honor for Stoops, who tied then-Georgia coach Mark Richt in a similar ESPN poll of 98 FBS coaches in 2014.
I brought it up with Stoops on Thursday, worried he might brush it off like it was a preseason AP vote. I learned immediately I was wrong.
“That my peers, coaches, feel I treat kids the right way,” he said, “I don’t know, hopefully a good role model and mentor to them and coach, as well. It means a great deal to me.”
I should have known better.
I’ve covered Stoops every year at Oklahoma but his first. Ask me to describe him, the first thing that comes to mind is “loyal.” That goes for his players, his staff, his family, his hometown and his buddies. That goes for his profession. Stoops is a coach to the bone.
I’ve lost count of the number of coaches he has referred to as “a friend.” He has vacationed with some, gone on golf trips with others. He has hosted entire staffs, college and high school. He has spoken at clinics. He takes pleasure in the perks of his job, but also the minutiae. So long as it involves coaching, or fellow coaches.
It’s an unbroken rule for Stoops to open postgame news conferences by crediting the opponent and the opponent’s coach. It’s an unbroken rule for Stoops to lament another coach’s firing, to not just say it but mean it. It infuriates him when his players are criticized by media or the general public, and just as much when other coaches are, as well.
“I appreciate and know what they do, and what we all go through,” he said. “We all deal with a lot of the same issues. But we also experience all the positives, too.”
The winning is nice. The money is very nice. The relationships with/influence on kids might be more rewarding than the money. I tend to think men and women decide to coach thinking they can hit all three jackpots.
The best keep at it, winning the most, earning the most and having the most influence along the way. If you are fortunate enough to do all of that at the rate Stoops has, and at a place as relentlessly demanding as OU, it is likely you will eventually be singled out. You will become an example for your industry.
The results of the poll did not surprise Stoops’ staff, or those who know him best.
“Bob stands for all the right things,” said Mike Stoops, the younger brother and longtime defensive lieutenant. “I think he’s humble. His integrity, his development of players, his character … I think it speaks to his character probably as much as anything. He’s very consistent in his approach.”
Joe Castiglione, entering his 18th year as both OU athletic director and Stoops’ boss, introduced his football coach to a room full of boosters Thursday by saying: “Look around at all the incredible things that have happened here. There’s a person that will never take the credit. I know he will always deflect it, but he deserves a heck of a lot of credit. He’s won nine Big 12 championships. … The winningest coach in Oklahoma history. And the person just yesterday, we learned, that most coaches would love to have their son play for.”
It’s a wonderful homage for a man who coaches on behalf of his program and his profession. Maybe the nicest of all.
“I have such respect for all the coaches out there at all levels,” Stoops said. “So yeah, there’s no doubt that that’s very flattering. I’m honored they feel that way.”
“It means more to me, maybe, than anything,” he said Thursday.
ESPN asked Big 12 and Southeastern Conference coaches going through their cycle of interviews on the Bristol campus: “If you had a son who was an elite football prospect and could play for any coach in America other than yourself, who would be your first choice?”
Stoops won the anonymous poll with five votes, two more than Michigan State’s Mark Dantonio and Stanford’s David Shaw. They could have picked anyone, and they chose him.
It was the second such honor for Stoops, who tied then-Georgia coach Mark Richt in a similar ESPN poll of 98 FBS coaches in 2014.
I brought it up with Stoops on Thursday, worried he might brush it off like it was a preseason AP vote. I learned immediately I was wrong.
“That my peers, coaches, feel I treat kids the right way,” he said, “I don’t know, hopefully a good role model and mentor to them and coach, as well. It means a great deal to me.”
I should have known better.
I’ve covered Stoops every year at Oklahoma but his first. Ask me to describe him, the first thing that comes to mind is “loyal.” That goes for his players, his staff, his family, his hometown and his buddies. That goes for his profession. Stoops is a coach to the bone.
I’ve lost count of the number of coaches he has referred to as “a friend.” He has vacationed with some, gone on golf trips with others. He has hosted entire staffs, college and high school. He has spoken at clinics. He takes pleasure in the perks of his job, but also the minutiae. So long as it involves coaching, or fellow coaches.
It’s an unbroken rule for Stoops to open postgame news conferences by crediting the opponent and the opponent’s coach. It’s an unbroken rule for Stoops to lament another coach’s firing, to not just say it but mean it. It infuriates him when his players are criticized by media or the general public, and just as much when other coaches are, as well.
“I appreciate and know what they do, and what we all go through,” he said. “We all deal with a lot of the same issues. But we also experience all the positives, too.”
The winning is nice. The money is very nice. The relationships with/influence on kids might be more rewarding than the money. I tend to think men and women decide to coach thinking they can hit all three jackpots.
The best keep at it, winning the most, earning the most and having the most influence along the way. If you are fortunate enough to do all of that at the rate Stoops has, and at a place as relentlessly demanding as OU, it is likely you will eventually be singled out. You will become an example for your industry.
The results of the poll did not surprise Stoops’ staff, or those who know him best.
“Bob stands for all the right things,” said Mike Stoops, the younger brother and longtime defensive lieutenant. “I think he’s humble. His integrity, his development of players, his character … I think it speaks to his character probably as much as anything. He’s very consistent in his approach.”
Joe Castiglione, entering his 18th year as both OU athletic director and Stoops’ boss, introduced his football coach to a room full of boosters Thursday by saying: “Look around at all the incredible things that have happened here. There’s a person that will never take the credit. I know he will always deflect it, but he deserves a heck of a lot of credit. He’s won nine Big 12 championships. … The winningest coach in Oklahoma history. And the person just yesterday, we learned, that most coaches would love to have their son play for.”
It’s a wonderful homage for a man who coaches on behalf of his program and his profession. Maybe the nicest of all.
“I have such respect for all the coaches out there at all levels,” Stoops said. “So yeah, there’s no doubt that that’s very flattering. I’m honored they feel that way.”
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Footballguy
Game day.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Well early on the defense looks out of sync.
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Footballguy
I don't know if Houston is that good, or Oklahoma had a bad game? But, Oklahoma looked out of sync today. Defense only forced 2 punts all day. The offense got banged around pretty good with Mayfield and Perine taking some pretty big shots. The timeout to kick the LONG FG only to have it returned 110 yards for a TD was the dagger. Taking 2 time outs early in the 3rd showed how out of sync the team was coming into this game. Trying to not think the ship is taking on water at the moment since most people around here were talking National Title this year. Guess OU can start focusing on trying to win the Big 12 at this point. The tickets for the Ohio State game will drop like a lead balloon so I may try to go to that game with the kids.
Tick
Footballguy
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So now with the Boise play over and over to beat OU we can add the 110 yard returned missed fg that will play everyday this year.
Tick
Footballguy
I guess he was trying to put a little English on that reverse pass. I missed it during the game. Hilarious.
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