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Didn't notice it during the game, but I guess Austin Seibert double stepped causing him to lose his momentum and kicking the ball short.
All this equals Kick Six. Oklahoma needs a break to go their way.
The secondary was just so out of position much of the game, and just physically beaten as well. I guess the plan going forward is to fix the secondary, or to score 70 points a game. I understand that Houston is a good team, but I never thought Oklahoma wouldn't be able to run the ball all day. Maybe because Oklahoma got behind and had to pass? I dunno, I would like a do over.
All this equals Kick Six. Oklahoma needs a break to go their way.
The secondary was just so out of position much of the game, and just physically beaten as well. I guess the plan going forward is to fix the secondary, or to score 70 points a game. I understand that Houston is a good team, but I never thought Oklahoma wouldn't be able to run the ball all day. Maybe because Oklahoma got behind and had to pass? I dunno, I would like a do over.
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Game delayed till 8pm due to weather
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I am going to go watch OU softball win the Championship. These coaches are going to be in hot water after tonight.
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NORMAN — After losing 45-24 to Ohio State on Saturday night, Oklahoma quarterback Baker Mayfield was despondent.
But he wasn’t destitute. He’s trying his best to look forward despite a colossally disappointing 1-2 start—so much so that his postgame comments almost trended in the direction of those of one Tim Tebow, circa 2008, following Florida’s regular-season loss to Ole Miss. Mayfield was at the same time much more muted than Tebow, but, of course, a lot more colorful.
“I’m going to work harder than anybody in this program,” Mayfield said. “Work harder and do it harder than anybody Coach (Bob) Stoops has ever seen. I’m going to push and we’re going to win a Big 12 title.
“That’s my mindset. Gotta bounce back. Yeah, it sucks. We got our asses kicked. They came in, they had a great game plan, they played well. (Ohio State QB) J.T. Barrett played well. They capitalized on my mistakes, on my turnovers. They played better than us. In big games like that, your big-time players and captains need to show up and I didn’t. That’s on me.”
“There’s things that he’s gotta do better,” said offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley. “And he will. That’s the kind of player that he is. Our expectations are pretty high of him.”
Fade away
Somehow, Ohio State wideout Noah Brown caught four touchdown passes on Saturday night. He had five receptions all of last season. Brown’s secret? Find the weak link on OU’s defense — that would be the cornerback opposite Jordan Thomas — and exploit it.
He beat Perrish Cobb twice on a fade route, then got Thomas turned around on a fade-post-corner, then made the play of the day — maybe the play of the year — by making a one-handed catch against Michiah Quick while pinning the ball to Quick’s back and falling out of bounds.
Cobb and Quick never turned around to play the ball, and Bob and Mike Stoops were not happy about it. Against Houston, it was Dakota Austin who kept losing his man.
“The younger guys just getting lost, learning how to flip and get on top of routes, obviously needs to improve,” Mike Stoops said.
“Just, I guess, not coached well enough, not athletic enough or skilled enough to put themselves in position, technique, whatever it may be,” Bob Stoops said. “You can name any of ‘em. I didn’t say it was any one of ‘em. It’s all of it together.
“They’ve got to be able to make that play. I see other people around the country make it. We’ve got to find a guy that can do it.”
Injury report
Bob Stoops said the Sooners were “pretty beat up” after the game. Ohio State ran faster and just hit harder than most teams.
“We got a lot of guys that have some injuries to look at,” he said. “The only one I know for sure is Cody Ford has a broken (bone in his lower left leg).”
Ford started the first three games at left guard. When he left, center Jonathan Alvarez switched to left guard and senior Erick Wren came in at center.
Junior safety Steven Parker also left the game with an undisclosed injury, but Mike Stoops said was “up and at ‘em in the locker room. He seemed good, so hopefully not.”
Also, defensive tackle Matthew Romar, who missed almost the entire preseason because of a concussion, “just got banged up throughout the course of the week,” Mike Stoops said, and was unable to play against the Buckeyes. “That was tough.”
Mixon’s gaffe
Inexplicably, Joe Mixon — perhaps trying to act cool, maybe just being a dunderhead — dropped the football, on purpose, on his way into the end zone at the end of a 97-yard kickoff return. Video replays and still photos showed Mixon still at the 1-yard line and already having dropped the ball behind him.
Fortunately for him and for the Sooners, the Big Ten officiating crew and the Big 12 replay crew were completely oblivious, even though Fox showed several versions of the replay.
“Oh, obviously that’ll be something that we put up on the screen Monday,” Stoops said.
Leaders gotta lead
Among the numerous aspects of Saturday’s failure for which Stoops accepted the blame was his team’s lack of leadership.
The Sooners sent vocal leaders like Sterling Shepard, Eric Striker, Charles Tapper and Zack Sanchez to the NFL, and this team has lacked focus, execution and poise throughout both the Houston and Ohio State losses.
“It’s fair to say the leadership isn’t close to what it was a year ago,” Stoops said. “But that’s on me. I’m in front of the program. I gotta do a better job. And I gotta do a better job developing players to be that.”
More Mixon
Joe Mixon had just three rushes during the Sooners’ first nine possessions, a total of 40 offensive plays. Stoops said he trusts offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley to call the right plays to get the ball into the hands of the right players. But then Stoops asked how much would more Mixon have actually helped.
“I thought we moved the football pretty decent, alright?” he said. “And whether Joe’s in there or not on third and fourth down and we throw it and don’t execute it or throw an interception, I don’t think that would have changed it. And he didn’t miss the field goal, either. So it’s not like we weren’t moving the ball.”
Mixon finished with a team-high 78 yards on just nine carries.
“That many possessions and that many plays, I want Samaje (Perine) to touch it more, I want Joe to touch it more, I want Dede (Westbrook) to touch it more, I want Mark (Andrews) to touch it more,” said offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley. “When we’re playing like that, it’s not our best and Joe along with the others, it’s not gonna be what we need.
“That’s one of the beauties of this offense when it’s rolling is that you want to keep everybody involved and you want to make them defend the entire field. So there’s a little give and take. I’m certainly aware of who we need to get it to. And that’s probably a little bit more through the game plan than it is on game day, if you will. You’ve got to have a plan to get those guys involved, and obviously I’ve got to do a better job there.”
On Perine
Samaje Perine came into 2016 needing just over 1,000 yards to break Billy Sims’ school rushing record. At this pace, however, Perine will need another year.
Through three games, Perine has just 33 carries for 149 yards. Saturday against the Buckeyes, he carries 17 times (he had 16 combined in the previous two games) but averaged only 3.5 yards per carry and gained 60 yards.
“I think he’s still finding his footing a little bit,” Riley said. “He’s healthy, but you miss all the time that he has, even with his experience and all that, missing all spring, missing parts of camp, it’ll be a work in progress with him.
“But I think in the three games, he’s taken jumps each game. I see him getting closer and closer back to the guy he’s gonna be. Still making some big plays for us, and the ones he’s not are close.”
Kicking confidence
Stoops said kicker Austin Seibert may be losing confidence in himself, and that’s causing Stoops to lose confidence in him.
After missing a 27-yard chip shot on the Sooners’ opening drive, Seibert — a powerhouse punter and kicker who was a freshman All-American last season — slumped.
“There wasn’t a problem with the operation,” Stoops said. “That was my first question, and there wasn’t. He just hit a bad ball. Which leads to, then he hit a horrible punt and then the next drive or two, he had a (possible) 50-yard field goal and (instead) I went for it on fourth down because I didn’t feel he was (having) any kind of confidence or (was in good mental) shape to go for it. And then we don’t convert (on fourth down). So, everything just kind of snowballs together.”
But he wasn’t destitute. He’s trying his best to look forward despite a colossally disappointing 1-2 start—so much so that his postgame comments almost trended in the direction of those of one Tim Tebow, circa 2008, following Florida’s regular-season loss to Ole Miss. Mayfield was at the same time much more muted than Tebow, but, of course, a lot more colorful.
“I’m going to work harder than anybody in this program,” Mayfield said. “Work harder and do it harder than anybody Coach (Bob) Stoops has ever seen. I’m going to push and we’re going to win a Big 12 title.
“That’s my mindset. Gotta bounce back. Yeah, it sucks. We got our asses kicked. They came in, they had a great game plan, they played well. (Ohio State QB) J.T. Barrett played well. They capitalized on my mistakes, on my turnovers. They played better than us. In big games like that, your big-time players and captains need to show up and I didn’t. That’s on me.”
“There’s things that he’s gotta do better,” said offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley. “And he will. That’s the kind of player that he is. Our expectations are pretty high of him.”
Fade away
Somehow, Ohio State wideout Noah Brown caught four touchdown passes on Saturday night. He had five receptions all of last season. Brown’s secret? Find the weak link on OU’s defense — that would be the cornerback opposite Jordan Thomas — and exploit it.
He beat Perrish Cobb twice on a fade route, then got Thomas turned around on a fade-post-corner, then made the play of the day — maybe the play of the year — by making a one-handed catch against Michiah Quick while pinning the ball to Quick’s back and falling out of bounds.
Cobb and Quick never turned around to play the ball, and Bob and Mike Stoops were not happy about it. Against Houston, it was Dakota Austin who kept losing his man.
“The younger guys just getting lost, learning how to flip and get on top of routes, obviously needs to improve,” Mike Stoops said.
“Just, I guess, not coached well enough, not athletic enough or skilled enough to put themselves in position, technique, whatever it may be,” Bob Stoops said. “You can name any of ‘em. I didn’t say it was any one of ‘em. It’s all of it together.
“They’ve got to be able to make that play. I see other people around the country make it. We’ve got to find a guy that can do it.”
Injury report
Bob Stoops said the Sooners were “pretty beat up” after the game. Ohio State ran faster and just hit harder than most teams.
“We got a lot of guys that have some injuries to look at,” he said. “The only one I know for sure is Cody Ford has a broken (bone in his lower left leg).”
Ford started the first three games at left guard. When he left, center Jonathan Alvarez switched to left guard and senior Erick Wren came in at center.
Junior safety Steven Parker also left the game with an undisclosed injury, but Mike Stoops said was “up and at ‘em in the locker room. He seemed good, so hopefully not.”
Also, defensive tackle Matthew Romar, who missed almost the entire preseason because of a concussion, “just got banged up throughout the course of the week,” Mike Stoops said, and was unable to play against the Buckeyes. “That was tough.”
Mixon’s gaffe
Inexplicably, Joe Mixon — perhaps trying to act cool, maybe just being a dunderhead — dropped the football, on purpose, on his way into the end zone at the end of a 97-yard kickoff return. Video replays and still photos showed Mixon still at the 1-yard line and already having dropped the ball behind him.
Fortunately for him and for the Sooners, the Big Ten officiating crew and the Big 12 replay crew were completely oblivious, even though Fox showed several versions of the replay.
“Oh, obviously that’ll be something that we put up on the screen Monday,” Stoops said.
Leaders gotta lead
Among the numerous aspects of Saturday’s failure for which Stoops accepted the blame was his team’s lack of leadership.
The Sooners sent vocal leaders like Sterling Shepard, Eric Striker, Charles Tapper and Zack Sanchez to the NFL, and this team has lacked focus, execution and poise throughout both the Houston and Ohio State losses.
“It’s fair to say the leadership isn’t close to what it was a year ago,” Stoops said. “But that’s on me. I’m in front of the program. I gotta do a better job. And I gotta do a better job developing players to be that.”
More Mixon
Joe Mixon had just three rushes during the Sooners’ first nine possessions, a total of 40 offensive plays. Stoops said he trusts offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley to call the right plays to get the ball into the hands of the right players. But then Stoops asked how much would more Mixon have actually helped.
“I thought we moved the football pretty decent, alright?” he said. “And whether Joe’s in there or not on third and fourth down and we throw it and don’t execute it or throw an interception, I don’t think that would have changed it. And he didn’t miss the field goal, either. So it’s not like we weren’t moving the ball.”
Mixon finished with a team-high 78 yards on just nine carries.
“That many possessions and that many plays, I want Samaje (Perine) to touch it more, I want Joe to touch it more, I want Dede (Westbrook) to touch it more, I want Mark (Andrews) to touch it more,” said offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley. “When we’re playing like that, it’s not our best and Joe along with the others, it’s not gonna be what we need.
“That’s one of the beauties of this offense when it’s rolling is that you want to keep everybody involved and you want to make them defend the entire field. So there’s a little give and take. I’m certainly aware of who we need to get it to. And that’s probably a little bit more through the game plan than it is on game day, if you will. You’ve got to have a plan to get those guys involved, and obviously I’ve got to do a better job there.”
On Perine
Samaje Perine came into 2016 needing just over 1,000 yards to break Billy Sims’ school rushing record. At this pace, however, Perine will need another year.
Through three games, Perine has just 33 carries for 149 yards. Saturday against the Buckeyes, he carries 17 times (he had 16 combined in the previous two games) but averaged only 3.5 yards per carry and gained 60 yards.
“I think he’s still finding his footing a little bit,” Riley said. “He’s healthy, but you miss all the time that he has, even with his experience and all that, missing all spring, missing parts of camp, it’ll be a work in progress with him.
“But I think in the three games, he’s taken jumps each game. I see him getting closer and closer back to the guy he’s gonna be. Still making some big plays for us, and the ones he’s not are close.”
Kicking confidence
Stoops said kicker Austin Seibert may be losing confidence in himself, and that’s causing Stoops to lose confidence in him.
After missing a 27-yard chip shot on the Sooners’ opening drive, Seibert — a powerhouse punter and kicker who was a freshman All-American last season — slumped.
“There wasn’t a problem with the operation,” Stoops said. “That was my first question, and there wasn’t. He just hit a bad ball. Which leads to, then he hit a horrible punt and then the next drive or two, he had a (possible) 50-yard field goal and (instead) I went for it on fourth down because I didn’t feel he was (having) any kind of confidence or (was in good mental) shape to go for it. And then we don’t convert (on fourth down). So, everything just kind of snowballs together.”
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I don't think he ever will. It has been over 13 seasons since OU's last title. The sunshine pumpers will throw up John Blake, or Schnellenberger saying, "do you remember those days!" I think Stoops was a GOD send many years ago, but something is going on in Norman that just isn't right. Maybe when a coach stays too long things just get stagnant. Like I said earlier Norman is a really tough place to coach. Championships are expected, and anything else everyone is calling for your head.
Dont post much but I'm fuming at the Stoops brothers. That was a massive playcalling failure.
4TDs to the same receiver, same redzone play and no friggin doubleteam?? On the last one they even blitzed the safety! Are you serious?
Riley calls a WR screen on a critical 3rd and 6?!? Why would anyone do that?
We were in the game except for a few big plays, but then the playcalling kept allowing more big plays. Thats 100% on coaching. We're young but so is OSU. Coaches have been failing this team.
they abused us by rushing to the weak side, put WRs on one side and let their speed beat us. Cant put someone there to close it in? They did it 10 or more times.
Maybe not Bob, but Mike has to go. He is absolutely terrible. Bob should go too. He's just like Richt at UGA. Too long in one spot, in his bubble listening to how great he is.
4TDs to the same receiver, same redzone play and no friggin doubleteam?? On the last one they even blitzed the safety! Are you serious?
Riley calls a WR screen on a critical 3rd and 6?!? Why would anyone do that?
We were in the game except for a few big plays, but then the playcalling kept allowing more big plays. Thats 100% on coaching. We're young but so is OSU. Coaches have been failing this team.
they abused us by rushing to the weak side, put WRs on one side and let their speed beat us. Cant put someone there to close it in? They did it 10 or more times.
Maybe not Bob, but Mike has to go. He is absolutely terrible. Bob should go too. He's just like Richt at UGA. Too long in one spot, in his bubble listening to how great he is.
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Your face should be firedChiefD said:
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I'd say you can't be this dumb, but I've read your posts for 13 years.
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Yes Trevor Knight would be the difference, they'd be 5-0 with him. /christo
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What a thorough beatdown. They looked out of their league. I dont think the coaches are doing a great job or anything but I'm not sure it would have mattered who was coaching on Saturday.
I do feel like the offense has been a bit unlucky and will get better. They moved the ball nicely last night. They need to get better in the redzone and Mayfield has to start making better decisions. He took one of the worst sacks I've ever seen in that game.
The defense is really bad. They have one decent cornerback. Three down lineman and undersized LBs are not going to be able to stop the run against good teams.
As bad as they've been, I still think they have as good of a shot as anyone to win the conference. They could also be looking at 1-4 after UT.
I do feel like the offense has been a bit unlucky and will get better. They moved the ball nicely last night. They need to get better in the redzone and Mayfield has to start making better decisions. He took one of the worst sacks I've ever seen in that game.
The defense is really bad. They have one decent cornerback. Three down lineman and undersized LBs are not going to be able to stop the run against good teams.
As bad as they've been, I still think they have as good of a shot as anyone to win the conference. They could also be looking at 1-4 after UT.
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Bob and Mike might have a little tighter ### holes today after the Miles news.
The Boz would have canned them.
How is it 2 years in a row it takes them until week 5 or 6 to figure out how they are going to win games?
Perine, Perine, Perine.
And I know their secondary is in bad shape. But, HTF do they give up 2 sub-2 minute TD drives in the 4th quarter this week after giving up 3 4th QTR TDs last week?
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I think Lincoln really wants to show off his air raid attack. IT is sad as a fan to watch such a talented backfield not get a lot of touches each game. Mike Stoops lost his edge or the players just don't respond to him or his coaching anymore. Quick being converted is the best option to have as a cover guy? OU is a top program year in and year out, and it seems that our defense struggles more than what most fans find acceptable. The fans in OU not the bandwagon fans, but the diehard fans want to see a change. Will it happen? I don't think so, but when ex players and Bob's most loyal supporters are calling for a change I think we will see a new head coach in a few years. Unless Bob somehow fires his brother or gets him to step down.
They didn't give up that many until week 10 last year.
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They were down to their 8th dback on Saturday and 6 of the guys ahead of him aren't very good. The d line is good, linebackers ok, secondary not even average for the Big XII. Mike did a good job last year, and they lost a ton on D, but it's hard to watch. Maybe he takes the Eastern Kentucky job???
They already beat two of the four best teams in the conference and they get Baylor and Pokes at home. Seems like a year they lose in Lubbock though, but it may end up being a pretty good year.
Beating Texas always feels good IMO.
They already beat two of the four best teams in the conference and they get Baylor and Pokes at home. Seems like a year they lose in Lubbock though, but it may end up being a pretty good year.
Beating Texas always feels good IMO.
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The amount of yards and points given up last night was crazy. Glad OU got the win, but that OU defense is scary.
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THIS!
After giving up 734 yards passing to Mahomes, OU now ranks next-to-last nationally in pass defense. Only Arizona St. is statistically worse.
After giving up 734 yards passing to Mahomes, OU now ranks next-to-last nationally in pass defense. Only Arizona St. is statistically worse.
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People always complain the defense is bad, but it never really is that bad. This year it's truly terrible, scheme, personnel, everything. Can't pressure the QB, can't stop the QB run, can't stop any intermediate passes, long passes, short passes, passes thrown into the turf to stop the clock are even subject to be a 15 yard gain. Bad, really bad. I can see them beating Baylor though, but West Virginia actually plays defense so that is gonna be a problem since they'll only need to stop OU a few times to win.
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Jake Trotter @Jake_Trotter 12m12 minutes ago Bob Stoops on the defense at Tech: "The odd thing, we weren't out of position. We didn't make mistakes." That is the scary part...
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Quite a few times they were close and simply failed to make a play. Probably take 3 hands to count the missed tackles in that game.
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Statistically this defense may not be the worst in OU history, but they are really really bad.
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I really don't want to see OU make it to the final 4 this year. Not with this defense
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I'll be in Morgantown Saturday.
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I thought the same thing last week when all of the top teams were falling. I really don't want to see them embarrass themselves again this year in a playoff game.Better than embarassing themselves in a non-playoff bowl.
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WV cutting the lead to 2 scores was crazy. 300 Plus rushing yards given up to 1 RB! Mike Stoops will hang his hat on winning the BIG12 and be back again. Shame that the defense isn't at least as half as good as the offense.
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