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***Official Pearl Jam Thread*** (4 Viewers)

I got PJ20 soundtrack from the library. I like it quite a bit. Some of these early tracks sound very raw but they cleaned them up so the sound is pristine. I dont know if that makes sense but I really like the sound of this CD.

* Library is awesome. I get all my tax dollars back by downloading their stuff. :thumbup:
They're about to open one up within walking distance to my house. Hopefully they'll have good stuff.
Here is the best part. If they dont have it they will get it for you. You just need to ask. Get hooked up with them online. I do searches,tell them what I want, and they send me an e mail when it is there. Same with DVDs. it is like a free Netflix.
 
* Library is awesome. I get all my tax dollars back by downloading their stuff. :thumbup:
Amen.But only because of the innerwebs invention...since we all (well at least me) can reserve A/V items and books, for those of you that read, online and get instant notification (texting in my case, some get phone calls or emails) when they are on the reserved shelf ready for pick up. Our library system is like 40 libraries sharing resources. Amazing.
Exactly. I have had them pull stuff from other cities for me.
 
I got PJ20 soundtrack from the library. I like it quite a bit. Some of these early tracks sound very raw but they cleaned them up so the sound is pristine. I dont know if that makes sense but I really like the sound of this CD.

* Library is awesome. I get all my tax dollars back by downloading their stuff. :thumbup:
They're about to open one up within walking distance to my house. Hopefully they'll have good stuff.
Here is the best part. If they dont have it they will get it for you. You just need to ask. Get hooked up with them online. I do searches,tell them what I want, and they send me an e mail when it is there. Same with DVDs. it is like a free Netflix.
Cool. Are any of them getting ebooks now?
 
I got PJ20 soundtrack from the library. I like it quite a bit. Some of these early tracks sound very raw but they cleaned them up so the sound is pristine. I dont know if that makes sense but I really like the sound of this CD.

* Library is awesome. I get all my tax dollars back by downloading their stuff. :thumbup:
They're about to open one up within walking distance to my house. Hopefully they'll have good stuff.
Here is the best part. If they dont have it they will get it for you. You just need to ask. Get hooked up with them online. I do searches,tell them what I want, and they send me an e mail when it is there. Same with DVDs. it is like a free Netflix.
Cool. Are any of them getting ebooks now?
YesUsed to be only one of the e readers was good for the library. That is how my wife ended up with a nook and a kindle. I think they now work on both but you should check.

 
I got PJ20 soundtrack from the library. I like it quite a bit. Some of these early tracks sound very raw but they cleaned them up so the sound is pristine. I dont know if that makes sense but I really like the sound of this CD.

* Library is awesome. I get all my tax dollars back by downloading their stuff. :thumbup:
They're about to open one up within walking distance to my house. Hopefully they'll have good stuff.
Here is the best part. If they dont have it they will get it for you. You just need to ask. Get hooked up with them online. I do searches,tell them what I want, and they send me an e mail when it is there. Same with DVDs. it is like a free Netflix.
Cool. Are any of them getting ebooks now?
YesUsed to be only one of the e readers was good for the library. That is how my wife ended up with a nook and a kindle. I think they now work on both but you should check.
nice
 
Just watched PJ20 on Netflix Stream (Live in Coronice is on there as well).... wow. Just a great film.

Also PJ 10 Club came through again and the postman dropped off a much more properly packaged version of this year's Vinyl.... (Last one was delivered broken). Very cool of them to resend. :thumbup:

 
No Faithfull Ale anywhere near Minnesota that I can find. Would anyone be willing to buy some for me and ship it to me? I'd obviously pay you for it.

 
I bought a bottle last night. The guy said his first case sold out in one day. This is his second and he's had it for a day and sold half the case.

 
I bought a bottle last night. The guy said his first case sold out in one day. This is his second and he's had it for a day and sold half the case.
You're supposed to buy all the bottles then ship them to us!
Yeah, sorry about that.I didn't bother to find out the average price for a bottle before I got one. I bought it for $30, so I wasn't sure if I was getting ripped off or not and I didn't want to get too ripped off by buying multiple bottles (although I strongly considered it). I figured I could hold out a day or two. He also told me that local BevMos have it in stock and that I should call around.
 
I got one for Faithfull Ale for $11.99 (local bev store) and two for $8.99 each (Whole Foods).

Both places limited me to buying one at a time...the only place I've heard that is selling them by the case is Whole Foods but those were apparently bought ahead of time. They unexpectadly got another case in so I think I got lucky there.

Drank one so far...I thought it tasted good.

Dogfish is brewing a new batch so we will all have another shot at landing some. Start asking your local specialty brew store about it now and see if Dogfish actually has a distributor in your state on their website.

 
Got this from Dogfish:

"Faithfull batch 2 began heading to wholesalers this week. It'll be hitting all our wholesalers across the country over the next few weeks."

 
sitting in airport now.

Just freaking great shows. You really have to look at both nights like one show in my opinion. I'm beat right now and i don't have the energy to write a bunch now....but just awesome vibe the whole weekend.
Made it back alive. Last night's show was unreal. Great meeting up with you guys for the tailgate. Good times. :banned: Now it's back to reality.
:thumbup:

Why is there no kent hrbeck pulling Gant off first base video on you tube?
Because that never happened!!
:lmao: Just to set the scene for the others...Sunday afternoon tailgate scene was myself, TU, BeTheMatch, his buddy and BullDozer. AcerFC was hanging for a few but then went in early to catch some of the openers.

BTM, his buddy and BullDozier are all from Minnesota, so I mentioned that I was a Braves fan and I thought that 1991 World Series was the best one I've ever seen. Subject of Hrbek pulling Gant off of first came up....and by pulling Gant off of first, I mean basically suplexing Gant. And they all mentioned how when anyone in Minnesota brought it up everyone acts as if it never happens.

A few beers later, this guy with a Twins hat walks by us...I say "what about Hrbek pulling Gant off 1st base"...not missing a stride, the dude just keeps walking...says "never happened"...and keeps going on his way.

I was freaking dying.

One of the many stories we traded during the tailgate...really a good time :banned:

I'll go more in to the shows tomorrow

I really do find it hilarious that I can't find a clip of it on youtube. Only picspics
It was almost like we planted him or something. You can't make it up.
Was just thinking about this again for some reason :lmao: Oh and I can't believe the freaking mess that the 10c tickets are. Thank god this crap didn't happen in the US. Apparantly, some sort of sabotage. I'll post the transcript from a Q&A with Kelly Curtis next.

 
Q: what happened? what was the "sabotage"?

KC: honestly, we do not know. what we do know is that since the alpine/canadian fiasco.. we have sought out the best ticketing company that we could find. we selected a state of the art company called crowd surge. who have have successfully handled massive ticket sales for paul mccartney, rhcp, and foo fighters. they've never had problems like this ever. so, we have a completely different company, system, server, staff in completely different cities.. and we have a very similar problem.... if you have any ideas.. please send our way

Q: can the band / management do anything to help those of us who would have got tickets to shows originally, but missed out due to the public on sale sell outs?

KC: while we wish we could. we have never been able to guarantee tickets to every fan club member. we try and be clear as possible.

Q: Why was there no 10c announcement of the second Manchester show?

KC: we would never assume that we would automatically get to two shows.... sometimes we don't get there.

Q: what about, those that bought seating tickets is there any chance for an upgrade to better seats. should the 10c have arranged to leave a block empty for this if not??

KC: we cannot upgrade your seats but we are working on early entry wristband per the post on the pj.com news section

Q: Will the Band add another couple of Fan Club Only Shows? -- that would be sublime and I am sure all would be enormously grateful.

KC: have not even had time to address this idea yet

Q: Will 10C add something to the membership as a way of saying sorry for how they have handled things this week? I.e 30 hours to response to the fans

KC: you know what...? i am very sorry. but i can't really answer the rest if i don't know or understand what exactly has happened. when and if we do... you will be the second to know.

Q: What assurances did Crowdsurge give that they could cope with the pre-sale?

KC: their track record and history is/was outstanding for comparable artist

Q: Why did it take so long for the 10C to communicate with fans about what was occurring regarding the recent European pre-sale? The fans waited for over 24 hours without hearing anything and Crowdsurge indicated that that they were also waiting for information from Pearl jam's camp.

KC: it took us that long to get the information ourselves.

Q: Can PJ get over the Ticketmaster debacle from the 90's and move on now? Pre-sales have been disastrous and I don't see why they couldn't leave it to the professionals to handle such affairs? We deserve an organization that can cope with PJ's demand given that it us who put them and keep them where they are now. Do the band know how bad the ticketing fiasco is?

KC: yes we worked with tm in canada.. it is not an option in all places in the world

Q: IS THE TICKETING ISSUE FIXED FROM HERE ON OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the past few years buying tickets through 10c has honestly drove me up a wall ..... and im close to taking my TICKET PURCHASES else where.

KC: don't blame you.. we all feel the same way. of course we are working on the perfect system.. any ideas? send them along

Q: Why sell the tickets all at the same time?

KC: no matter how many shows we put up.. we are still getting a similar amount of traffic... and as of what we know right now.. it is not a traffic issue.. the servers were humming along fine.

Q: Could you please clarify the way 10c members will be entitled wristbands with GA tks bought through the general sale? Will single 10clubber buyers (buying 1 tkt each) be allowed a wristband?

KC: details for wristbands coming next week per ten club news post.

Q: Why won't Pearl Jam play The South?

KC: never say never

Q: Why was it not possible to hold back the 10c tickets although the public pre-sale started and, additional to that, since they 10c-pre-sale did not work out, hold back an extra amount of tickets from the public pre-sale? Would that have been so difficult? I don't understand why they had to be "thrown" into the public sale.

KC: we are dealing with a public on sale following our pre-sale in a very short window…. our fan club pre-sales are not very popular with promoters and therefore there is not a lot of help offered. one of the main reasons… is that SOME ..NOT ALL promoters would love to sell our fan club tickets at a very high price….. this is how pj has been abe to avoid widespread scalping. our goal has always been to get you .. the loyal pj fan the best of anything we have to offer at the best price possible.

Q: Can anything be done for those of us who actually had tickets in our basket, and had entered all the credit card info and were in the process of checking out when the system crashed?

KC: sorry no.

Q: Can we go back to post cards and money orders? My guess is no, but maybe this is best, the good old fashion way, kinda like playing a record!

KC: believe me… this is being talked about very seriously….

Q: Will there be any measures to "compensate" the 10c members that were caught in this nightmare and didn't score any desired tickets for this tour?

KC: working on ideas..

Q: Are the actual band members kept up-to-date with the problems that 'joe public' have went through?

KC: of course

Q: have you thought about doing pre sales the way that dave matthews band and phish do theirs?

KC: with all due respect... phish nor dmb are not big sellers outside the US... where our problems lie today.

Q: I feel sometimes we are given 1/2 truths about touring info.....like as an American I feel tempted to go to Europe but when I do I know a US tour will be announced. Could this info be given out in a more timely manner? Why in this band's 20th anniversary have they not hit their home city?

KC: we cannot announce everything at once because we don't alway know what we are doing … once we get through routing, venues, time period , personal schedules.. we move on to the next.. this band has never planned very far ahead.. thus keeping it real and fresh always.. and not one big treadmill obligation….

Q: Do you think that the growing rift in many fans' eyes between Pearl Jam / Ten Club is a problem? Isn't this a PJ management issue?

KC: everything pj is a management issue.. the good or bad...

Q: In 2006 I think it was, You announced a 5 show tour of Australia, with 10C tickets to one show in each City. Melbourne #2 went on public sale with no announcement to the fans, or anyone 10 minutes before Melbourne #1. Surely you must have some idea...especially with a 12 hour lag in time as was the case with Manchester.

KC: i have been cocky in the past and it has come back to bite me…..it is a different world out there and money is tight.. again.. i would never presume anything anymore..

Q: Please address why it took more than 24 hours for 10C to issue any sort of statement regarding the ticketing issue. This is a huge point.

KC: i am going to say this one more time... we did not know what was happening..we were all working for that 24hrs to find out what was wrong.. and we still don't know.. you know what we know..

Q: Was anyone in this lineup [Nickelback] a suspect of the sabotage?

KC: funny stuff

Q: is it just a case of too much traffic overwhelming the server? whether it be crowdsurge or 10c? or is it not even known if that is the problem?

KC: servers were fine.... humming along

Q: Why don't bands even larger than PJ have these fanclub ticketing problems? (Bruce, Petty, Phish, DMB)

KC: most of those are Ticketmaster fan clubs. Ticketmaster is owned by Live Nation. nothing wrong with that, but just so you know. our goal was to keep Ten Club independent. we felt there were advantages to that. do these other fan clubs you mention really never have ticketing problems?

Q: Why are you, after 20 years of doing this, still so badly organized??? You charge us 50$ a year. You should be more responsible for your deeds. Sometimes we feel like you don't care,..

KC: no way to convince you . but we all really do care.. we all love this band and our jobs.

Q: Does the band know about the numerous ticket sale fiascos that have taken place over the past years, and why was it not a concern until now? Can you and the band implement a more "open" line of communication between the 10c and the fans/forums?...it seems like there is a very strict policy of any release of infomation by moderators...when they are the closest to the fan base and can easily clear up misconceptions and falsities... How is information passed from band management to 10c management...official press release? email? phone call? snail mail letter? Who is responsible for updating the website, and why is there no consistency in respect to when items are released and the announment of such releases?

KC: you are not wrong at all… we have been chasing this thing every year since technology became a player and the primary way people purchase tickets… info comes in at all times and places….. and we have to make sure . depending on what the subject that it is correct and that the band.. the whole band has signed off.. that can be a task in itself...

Q: Is our personal information safe? Do we need to be worried about our credit card information?

KC: we have been assured by CrowdSurge that your credit card information is secure.

Q: why would we come up with the ideas? YOU'RE THEIR MANAGER! I'm a school teacher and wouldn't ask you how to teach a good WWI lesson on trench warfare.

KC: come on… really? was not trying to make you mad.. seriously…i was looking for feedback/help…

been interesting everyone.. especially you sawyer.

Q: oh and no offence Mr Curtis... are you suggesting to us, the fans, that the 2nd night has never been discussed with you? Are you suggesting that TM sell the 2nd night out and then dictate to the band that they MUST play a 2nd night? please do not insult our intelligence... the band, the mgt and all staff would have known about a 2nd night so why could that not have been announced before TM released tickets? I know for a fact that webpages can be set to go live at certain times... i.e. a news item on PJ could have been set to go live at 8.55am UK time this morning with info about the 2nd night. You're evading the most burning questions. Whilst i'm sure everyone appreciates the fact you are here.. please don't skip the most emotive points.

KC: let me try again...i can tell I either missed the point of this question or didn't answer it clearly. this is an industry standard, not something specific to the way i do it. there are some cities where i think we might be able to play more than one show, but I don't assume that until after we put the first show up for sale, and we see what the demand is. (there are exceptions to this rule...of course...there are some cities where we know for sure there will be demand for multiple shows so we put them both up at once. but more often i am making the decision in real time.) if the first show sells out and it seems like there is demand for a second show, i will approve for another show to go on sale right after the first one sells out or looks like it is going to.

from now on, we can post on the ten club site right when we approve for another show to be added so that you guys know.

 
Got this from Dogfish:"Faithfull batch 2 began heading to wholesalers this week. It'll be hitting all our wholesalers across the country over the next few weeks."
This is sitting on shelves all over town in San Diego.
Some people are going to be very happy.My wife just picked up 4 more Faithfull's from Whole Foods. That should do it for me...7 total. Drinking one right now.And that's a crazy transcript above..what a mess. I sorta feel sorry for Curtis but they've essentially done it to themselves. There are better ways to do the ticket distro...even if it involved TM. Side note, I still think you should be granted the best seats in the house for your "home" show no matter your member number...but that would send the low number people into a hissy fit.
 
drinking my PJ20 beer and watching the PJ20 outtakes...think that It's OK in 2000 after Roskilde might be the most emotional song they've ever played. Gives me chills the entire time.

 
made it through most of LATG (Miller Lite, not PJ20 :( )while finishing this case of beer....####, I'm jonesing for some more PJ.

 
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Anyone know of they are still going to make the ale. Still in search. I missed one store by 1 day according to owner.

 
One of my students told me that there is an episode of Portlandia on IFC that revolved around Ed Ved. I have never heard of the show but thanked him for the heads up

 
Enough with the solo tours already. I wouldn't pay that much to see Abraham Lincoln strum the ukulele

WHY DOES PEARL JAM NEVER PLAY THE NORTHEAST??

 
I'm not sure one confirmed date in Jacksonville means Eddie is touring the South. Are there any other confirmations out there?

 

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