Sabertooth
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I agree with this as well.
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Official Per Schefter Bills Trade Evans to Ravens (1 Viewer)
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Evans tops 1,000 yards in Baltimore.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
really? neither boldin nor mason topped 850 last year
Thanks for that. I LOL'd.I can't think back to 2006 when this was the case, before they were all bad. Wasn't it even years? So bad year.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Loss of Heap helps a bit, and Flacco and Evans are a great fit. Let's not forget that Evans hit the 1,000 yard mark with J.P. Losman. Captain Checkdown and Ryan Fitzpatrick did his career no favors.
doesn't leave a ton of time for the two to work on timing and familiarity.but, for the deep ball, that probably isn't as important.I remember not too long ago when people steered clear of rookies and free agent WRs who changed teams because it took them so long to get adjusted to the offense, QB, etc. Evans is switching teams in mid August and I wouldn't be surprised if he has a great season. Times have changed.
JbizzleMan
Footballguy
Torrey Smith doing anything this year. 
Underachievers
Footballguy
With 750 of those yards coming in 2 games. No thanks...I think I will pass on Lee Evans once again. Better yet....draft him hoping that one of those 2 games happens the first week and I can sell him for the world...again. The guy has always been a fricken nightmare to own.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I hope so. As of the obscenely-early-probably-doesn't-matter-March, I was talking with him and he doesn't plan to leave unless we win it all. In which case he said he might try to repeat.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm upset that the Bills traded Evans, especially for just a 4th round pick as I believe that he was more valuable to the BILLS than that. But all of you folks that think he's going to Baltimore and will explode there are nuts.
One of the reasons that is routinely given for why Evans hasn't performed well in Buffalo is the bad offensive line. And there has been some truth to that. If that's the case, then how does going to Baltimore make things any better? Baltimore gave up 6 more sacks than the Bills did last year which placed them 9 spots below the Bills in sacks given up.
The Bills also had more plays over 20+ yards and over 40+ yards than the Ravens last year. So they were throwing the ball downfield more.
Yes, the QBs haven't been great in Buffalo, but Evans has averaged just 54 catches and 848 yards per season. Those just aren't stud numbers no matter how you look at it. Guys like Josh Morgan and Nate Washington killed Evans's stats last year and their QB situations were horrible as well. Same with Kenny Britt and Braylon Edwards. Let's add Anthony Armstrong to that list as well. I don't see anyone needing to make excuses for Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson or Santana Moss. All those guys crushed it last year with dreadful QB situations. And Brandon Lloyd led the league in receiving yards despite Orton and Tebow being his QBs. Were they really that much better than Fitzpatrick?
I don't really see any metric that leads me to believe that Evans is going to have a huge season in Baltimore. I just don't. He may benefit from Boldin being double teamed, but I still don't think he's in for a season better than 50 catches 850 yards. Max.
One of the reasons that is routinely given for why Evans hasn't performed well in Buffalo is the bad offensive line. And there has been some truth to that. If that's the case, then how does going to Baltimore make things any better? Baltimore gave up 6 more sacks than the Bills did last year which placed them 9 spots below the Bills in sacks given up.
The Bills also had more plays over 20+ yards and over 40+ yards than the Ravens last year. So they were throwing the ball downfield more.
Yes, the QBs haven't been great in Buffalo, but Evans has averaged just 54 catches and 848 yards per season. Those just aren't stud numbers no matter how you look at it. Guys like Josh Morgan and Nate Washington killed Evans's stats last year and their QB situations were horrible as well. Same with Kenny Britt and Braylon Edwards. Let's add Anthony Armstrong to that list as well. I don't see anyone needing to make excuses for Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson or Santana Moss. All those guys crushed it last year with dreadful QB situations. And Brandon Lloyd led the league in receiving yards despite Orton and Tebow being his QBs. Were they really that much better than Fitzpatrick?
I don't really see any metric that leads me to believe that Evans is going to have a huge season in Baltimore. I just don't. He may benefit from Boldin being double teamed, but I still don't think he's in for a season better than 50 catches 850 yards. Max.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
You're being a little harsh on Evans, IMO. Even last year, in 10 games with Fitzpatrick before Evans got hurt, he had 33-544-4. Flacco is a massive upgrade, IMO. He's got a much stronger arm than Fitzpatrick and Flacco has never had a deep threat like Evans before. If he was on an 870-yard pace in Buffalo, he can hit 1,000 in Baltimore.I don't think Evans is anything close to a complete receiver. But this is the perfect landing spot for him. Deep threat receivers need good running games, strong-armed quarterbacks and a solid possession receiver to maximize their potential. Does any team fit that mold as well as Baltimore?
baconisgood
Footballguy
My first impression is that I strongly agree with Chase I put this up before I read his comments
And I think that Losman is more similar to Flacco than one might think
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
this factoid* was in the excellent training camp news thread...
doesn't evans have an NFL record, with something like two 60+ yard (longer?) TD receptions in a QUARTER?
evans can also do more than go long, outstanding RAC, BUF wasn't very creative in getting the ball in his hands...
off the top of my head, very hard to think of a talent more held back/victimized by his team over past half decade or so... if evans had been on a better team with a more competent QB, he would have massively greater notoriety...
* "Evans brings deep speed and a veteran presence. According to ESPN's Stats & Information, Evans is third in yards per catch (15.7) among active receivers with at least 300 receptions. Only Greg Jennings (16.2) of the Green Bay Packers and Braylon Edwards (15.8) of the San Francisco 49ers are ahead of Evans."
doesn't evans have an NFL record, with something like two 60+ yard (longer?) TD receptions in a QUARTER?
evans can also do more than go long, outstanding RAC, BUF wasn't very creative in getting the ball in his hands...
off the top of my head, very hard to think of a talent more held back/victimized by his team over past half decade or so... if evans had been on a better team with a more competent QB, he would have massively greater notoriety...
* "Evans brings deep speed and a veteran presence. According to ESPN's Stats & Information, Evans is third in yards per catch (15.7) among active receivers with at least 300 receptions. Only Greg Jennings (16.2) of the Green Bay Packers and Braylon Edwards (15.8) of the San Francisco 49ers are ahead of Evans."
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66 some odd yards per game
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
yes, but the Ravens WR1 and WR2 last season didn't top that figure. Lee Evans will just show up and play at a level that will outpace by 20% Boldin and Mason's numbers from last year? i just don't see it.
I'm surprised by this sentiment.The guy is 30, there's an obvious decline in his stats and ...known you for years, this should be a predictable "on his way down" post by you.Why does he break the 30 yr old metric for you?why....just why here I guess
i think guys around here are WAY too obsessed with last year's numbers. don't look at the stats, look at the combination of personnel and skill sets, and likely game situations. you have to account for boldin and rice. flacco, for all his flaws, throws a huge and gorgeous deep ball, and evans can freaking fly down the field. how would you compare boldin and evans to boldin and mason. neither of the latter has any speed. together they don't create advantageous spacing. evans DOES, and that is the entire point. if you had four calvin johnsons on your team you'd be an idiot not to throw the ball, and with these players i don't think it's going to be difficult to get evans some favorable matchups.
tom brady was a mediocre fantasy qb until he wasn't. you have to possess a flexible enough mind to see new possibilities for an offense.
tom brady was a mediocre fantasy qb until he wasn't. you have to possess a flexible enough mind to see new possibilities for an offense.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This is a pretty solid post. I was unaware that Flacco threw a good deep ball. Obviously he really hasn't had the talent around him to showcase that.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The deep ball he caught was a thing of beauty. Pretty impressive after being with the team for only a couple weeks.Evans moves directly into the starting lineup opposite Boldin. Opposing defenses have to account for Ray Rice as well. This situation is perfect for Lee Evans. His ADP is rising, but this is exactly the guy you want as a WR3 or WR4. He's going to have some big games with Flacco throwing the football.Draft him with confidence.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
5-117-1 in two halves of play with the 1st team. He and Flacco seem to be on the same page pretty quickly here...
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
With the news that Evans is being cut, I guess he'll get those 1,000 yards playing Madden maybe?Like I said, I hated that the Bills traded him when they did when he was so loyal to them, but they were the clear winners in the deal and Evans would have done nothing to have made them better last year. I've criticized the Bills front office a lot, but maybe they deserve more credit and respect than they get.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
The guy got hurt and Torrey Smith emerged to take his job. I hope he catches on somewhere else. He's still got some football left.
