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ha, no kidding... but evidently lovie didn't do things "the lord's way", because he got smited for a loss. i've never understood why athletes/coaches thank god for wins... are they trying to say they're better than their opponents? sounds fairly self-righteous to me...btw, what on earth did dungy mean about he and lovie being the "first two christian coaches" in the superbowl? surely at least one other superbowl coach has been christian...
Thats pretty good of you to let the vaunted chicago defense off the hook like that. I guess 20 for 28 is horrible. Maybe next time he can go 28 for 28 just for you.Yep. And this is coming from a huge Rex supporter. This game is mostly on his shoulders. It's rough but that's reality.2 fumbles (all his fault), 2 horrible picks (all his fault) and a bunch of bonehead decisions. The Bears D kept them in the game and Rex screwed up over and over again.
I'll agree that the playcalling sucked and didn't help but the Bears D was the only reason it was only a 12 point loss and not a 27 point loss. They bent a bit but only gave up 22 actual points (Rex gave up 7), no, as much as it hurts me to say, it this is mostly on Rex. I hope the kid gets it worked out over the offseason but this loss could kill his career.ETA: Bear's D was on the field for 2/3 of the game, they played pretty well against a good offense. Alot of those missed tackles in the 3rd and 4th quarter were due to fatigue.His 2nd pick was late in the game when it really didnt matter. My point was the guy went 20 for 28 so if they couldnt sustain any drives the running game and play calling is just as guilty. IMO the defense is more to blame for the loss than rex.
My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
It was a 12 point game with around 7:30 left I believe and he had an open man deep on his second pick. I wouldn't say that the second pick didn't matter.His 2nd pick was late in the game when it really didnt matter. My point was the guy went 20 for 28 so if they couldnt sustain any drives the running game and play calling is just as guilty. IMO the defense is more to blame for the loss than rex.
Agree completely.
I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
Why so sensitive? I've been waiting for this moment for 20 years. The one sports team I loved more than almost anything lost. I'm crushed man. What can i say.As far as how the Colts played, they're were awesome. I'm not taking anything away from them. But saying it was a blowout if numerous other things had happened or it was a blowout all except for the final score is nonsense. As Bears fan, I've had to put up with that garbage all year. It never ended. Not then. Not now. Nothing personal and I'm not a sore loser. The Colts deserve exactly what they got.Just havin fun with you.Your posting says it all. Everyone around here knows me. I'll leave it at that.Dude, you guys got spanked. Give it up. Sore loser. As a fairly neutral observer, you got mauled, but the final score makes it look like you guys were in the game. Fact is, you weren't.Here we go again. WhateverThey should do something they never have....the offensive line deserves it more than anyone.
Give it to them !!!!By the way, why so sensitive? In my bolded statement, what was wrong with what I said?If it weren't raining, I could easily see the XP and FG being good, so there's 33. Then, I just thought that they could have converted 2 FGs to TDs and you have 41. Not that hard. You might disagree, but I think that the Colts completely dominated.
To me, the way the Colts offense, the line, Manning, Rhodes and Addai, played against an excellent defense was quite impressive. They had 430 total yards on offense and 24 first downs in 38+ minutes of possession.
It just seems to me the biggest plays of the game came either in the running game or stopping Rex. Peyton just did his job.
Don't forget that the INT was on a 3rd and long, so he threw it deep enough that even if it was picked, it was almost a punt. He took a chance. The Bears went 3 and out after the INT.
Did he say that? I already turned it off.
Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
Then he said the Bears should get a real QB.
They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.
He had around 200 yards passing in the 1st half and they scored 16 of there 22 offensive points and missed a FG as well. The running game came alive in the second half with the lead and when the Bears Defense started to wear down.On the Colts 2 TDs, Manning had 71 of 80 and 44 of 58 yards. That isn't just "doing his job."Not sure why people don't want to give Manning credit. His INT was basically a punt on 3rd and long and he was the reason for their points in the 1st half. The offense with the running game coming alive only scored 6 points in the second half. Give the man his due.
Again his INT was not the same as a punt or as good as a punt unless you like 24 yard punts.
Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.
Really? Devin Hester - 1 punt return 3 yards. When you have the ball on your 41 you can hang it high and there are very few returns in this situation or you can kick to the sideline. This play was not meaningless and not as good as a punt and anyone that thinks differently is just blinded by their man love for Manning. He played a very good game, but this was a bad play.Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.Don't forget that the INT was on a 3rd and long, so he threw it deep enough that even if it was picked, it was almost a punt. He took a chance. The Bears went 3 and out after the INT.
What is amazing is that people can't let Manning get any credit either. He has been the best player on the Colts for years, leading them to the playoffs every year. He finally wins a Super Bowl and people like you complain that he shouldn't have won the MVP. The defense won the game, the running game won it, not Manning. The defense was only on the field for 21 minutes because the offense controlled the game. The running game went wild in the second half after Manning threw for around 200 yards against an excellent defense.The Colts played well, but Manning was the key cog.By the way, check my smiley, I was basically joking, but in all seriousness, Manning's INT was not a big deal. It was not a problem to take a chance like that with as good as the Colts defense has been, especially with the meh Bears offense. The 3 and out by the Bears after the INT was pretty much proof that Manning could take chances, unlike Grossman's INTs which were back breakers based on how the game was going.Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
I think Manning played very well, but I felt it deserved to go to the RBs. I did give him credit, but I don't think he deserved MVP. This award is based on this game not the last 8 years.What is amazing is that people can't let Manning get any credit either. He has been the best player on the Colts for years, leading them to the playoffs every year. He finally wins a Super Bowl and people like you complain that he shouldn't have won the MVP. The defense won the game, the running game won it, not Manning. The defense was only on the field for 21 minutes because the offense controlled the game. The running game went wild in the second half after Manning threw for around 200 yards against an excellent defense.The Colts played well, but Manning was the key cog.By the way, check my smiley, I was basically joking, but in all seriousness, Manning's INT was not a big deal. It was not a problem to take a chance like that with as good as the Colts defense has been, especially with the meh Bears offense. The 3 and out by the Bears after the INT was pretty much proof that Manning could take chances, unlike Grossman's INTs which were back breakers based on how the game was going.Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
First, if you are going to quote Hester's one punt return as prooj that he isn't dangerous, then you are stretching it. He is a game breaker and single handedly put the Bears into the game with the kickoff return for a TD. Did you watch the NE-IND game two weeks ago? NE had several good kickoff and punt returns. The Colts coverage was suspect. I seem to remember a couple of the punts being near Chicago's goal line and Hester did not try and return them, correctly.Second, it was meaningless. The Bears went 3 and out and punted.Really? Devin Hester - 1 punt return 3 yards. When you have the ball on your 41 you can hang it high and there are very few returns in this situation or you can kick to the sideline. This play was not meaningless and not as good as a punt and anyone that thinks differently is just blinded by their man love for Manning. He played a very good game, but this was a bad play.Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.Don't forget that the INT was on a 3rd and long, so he threw it deep enough that even if it was picked, it was almost a punt. He took a chance. The Bears went 3 and out after the INT.
Im suprised this many people care about who got the MVP award. I rank that right up there with who got voted into the Pro bowl. I dont care which colt goes to disneyland but im glad so many of you do care.I think Manning played very well, but I felt it deserved to go to the RBs. I did give him credit, but I don't think he deserved MVP. This award is based on this game not the last 8 years.What is amazing is that people can't let Manning get any credit either. He has been the best player on the Colts for years, leading them to the playoffs every year. He finally wins a Super Bowl and people like you complain that he shouldn't have won the MVP. The defense won the game, the running game won it, not Manning. The defense was only on the field for 21 minutes because the offense controlled the game. The running game went wild in the second half after Manning threw for around 200 yards against an excellent defense.The Colts played well, but Manning was the key cog.By the way, check my smiley, I was basically joking, but in all seriousness, Manning's INT was not a big deal. It was not a problem to take a chance like that with as good as the Colts defense has been, especially with the meh Bears offense. The 3 and out by the Bears after the INT was pretty much proof that Manning could take chances, unlike Grossman's INTs which were back breakers based on how the game was going.Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
I can play the stats game, too.Hester finished 2nd in the NFL in punt return average, 12.8 ypr (PacMan Jones, 12.9) and tied with Jones with 3 TDs via punt return.Hester accounted for 3 other TDs in the regular season on returns, and obviously had one on the opening kickoff. He accounted for 41% of the Bears points tonight (with an assist to Gould's PAT).So given the chance, I'd prefer to exchange the ball with Hester on the bench. Granted, the interception could also have been returned... but I think you can get my point.As for Manning, he doesn't need me to defend him, and as a Steeler fan, I am as close to unbiased on his performance as you can get. I'm just saying that the possibility of a completion, combined with the fact that 24 yards were gained on the exchange, and with Hester not getting a chance at a return made the pick less than a lethal blow.Really? Devin Hester - 1 punt return 3 yards. When you have the ball on your 41 you can hang it high and there are very few returns in this situation or you can kick to the sideline. This play was not meaningless and not as good as a punt and anyone that thinks differently is just blinded by their man love for Manning. He played a very good game, but this was a bad play.Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.
Exactly. The ball was at the 41. It could have easily been a one of those situations where the punt would not and should not have been returnable. And he had no idea the Bears would go 3 and out. The defense hadn't even stepped on the field yet.First, if you are going to quote Hester's one punt return as prooj that he isn't dangerous, then you are stretching it. He is a game breaker and single handedly put the Bears into the game with the kickoff return for a TD. Did you watch the NE-IND game two weeks ago? NE had several good kickoff and punt returns. The Colts coverage was suspect. I seem to remember a couple of the punts being near Chicago's goal line and Hester did not try and return them, correctly.Second, it was meaningless. The Bears went 3 and out and punted.Really? Devin Hester - 1 punt return 3 yards. When you have the ball on your 41 you can hang it high and there are very few returns in this situation or you can kick to the sideline. This play was not meaningless and not as good as a punt and anyone that thinks differently is just blinded by their man love for Manning. He played a very good game, but this was a bad play.Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.Don't forget that the INT was on a 3rd and long, so he threw it deep enough that even if it was picked, it was almost a punt. He took a chance. The Bears went 3 and out after the INT.
You care when you have $$$ on it.Im suprised this many people care about who got the MVP award. I rank that right up there with who got voted into the Pro bowl. I dont care which colt goes to disneyland but im glad so many of you do care.I think Manning played very well, but I felt it deserved to go to the RBs. I did give him credit, but I don't think he deserved MVP. This award is based on this game not the last 8 years.What is amazing is that people can't let Manning get any credit either. He has been the best player on the Colts for years, leading them to the playoffs every year. He finally wins a Super Bowl and people like you complain that he shouldn't have won the MVP. The defense won the game, the running game won it, not Manning. The defense was only on the field for 21 minutes because the offense controlled the game. The running game went wild in the second half after Manning threw for around 200 yards against an excellent defense.The Colts played well, but Manning was the key cog.By the way, check my smiley, I was basically joking, but in all seriousness, Manning's INT was not a big deal. It was not a problem to take a chance like that with as good as the Colts defense has been, especially with the meh Bears offense. The 3 and out by the Bears after the INT was pretty much proof that Manning could take chances, unlike Grossman's INTs which were back breakers based on how the game was going.Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
The offense scored 22 points and missed 1 FG. 16 points and the 1 missed FG came in the first half when Manning had around 200 of his 247 yards. He had 115 passing yards compared to 23 rushing yards on the two Colts TD drives. I think he did more than enough to win the MVP.The RBs played great, but they weren't the reason why the Colts got the lead in the 1st half, which is why Manning was the MVP in my eyes. If either Addai or Rhodes got 90% of the carries, then that one RB could have easily been the MVP, but Addai had a good first half and Rhodes had a good second half.I think Manning played very well, but I felt it deserved to go to the RBs. I did give him credit, but I don't think he deserved MVP. This award is based on this game not the last 8 years.What is amazing is that people can't let Manning get any credit either. He has been the best player on the Colts for years, leading them to the playoffs every year. He finally wins a Super Bowl and people like you complain that he shouldn't have won the MVP. The defense won the game, the running game won it, not Manning. The defense was only on the field for 21 minutes because the offense controlled the game. The running game went wild in the second half after Manning threw for around 200 yards against an excellent defense.The Colts played well, but Manning was the key cog.By the way, check my smiley, I was basically joking, but in all seriousness, Manning's INT was not a big deal. It was not a problem to take a chance like that with as good as the Colts defense has been, especially with the meh Bears offense. The 3 and out by the Bears after the INT was pretty much proof that Manning could take chances, unlike Grossman's INTs which were back breakers based on how the game was going.Amazing. The guy can do no wrong in some people's eyes. Interceptions in the first quarter are not meaningless. I guess guys should try to throw picks on 3rd and 12 more often. They were also actually very good on punt coverage.I think the problem for Rhodes was Addai. They kind of cancelled each other out. Addai actually had more total yards than Rhodes. Also, Rhodes went over 100 yards with 31 yards on that last meaningless drive. He was solid, but I think Manning did enough in the first half to give the Colts the lead that I could see him winning it. I don't understand why people don't think he was deserving. The running game was great, but I think Manning was plenty good as well. His 200 yards in the first half opened up the running game quite a bit in the second half.Also, Manning's only INT was pretty much meaningless. It was on a 3rd and long, so it was basically a punt and with the way the Colts special teams were playing, it was better than a punt, it got good net yardage.My buds and I had Rhodes as the consensus MVP, but...
You are absolutely correct. Had it been pinned down at the 1 yard line, it would have been better.I am definitely not saying that it was better to have an INT, but one thing that I knew going into the game was that the Colts defense was perfect for the Bears offense. They don't give up the big plays which is Grossman's bread and butter. If I was Dungy, I would not mind Manning taking a chance if it means that Chicago has to drive 65 yards.Exactly. The ball was at the 41. It could have easily been a one of those situations where the punt would not and should not have been returnable. And he had no idea the Bears would go 3 and out. The defense hadn't even stepped on the field yet.First, if you are going to quote Hester's one punt return as prooj that he isn't dangerous, then you are stretching it. He is a game breaker and single handedly put the Bears into the game with the kickoff return for a TD. Did you watch the NE-IND game two weeks ago? NE had several good kickoff and punt returns. The Colts coverage was suspect. I seem to remember a couple of the punts being near Chicago's goal line and Hester did not try and return them, correctly.Second, it was meaningless. The Bears went 3 and out and punted.Really? Devin Hester - 1 punt return 3 yards. When you have the ball on your 41 you can hang it high and there are very few returns in this situation or you can kick to the sideline. This play was not meaningless and not as good as a punt and anyone that thinks differently is just blinded by their man love for Manning. He played a very good game, but this was a bad play.Given the Colts special teams, it was arguably better than a punt in that even though the Colts only gained 24 yards or so on the exchange, at least Hester couldn't return it for a TD.They were on their own 41 and the Bears got the ball on their 35. This was not almost as good as a punt.
I was thinking the same thing. Harrison has been completely absent and their WRs did nothing compared to what the Saints (can't remember how Seattle did) WRs did. Wayne has been solid, but Harrison disappeared except that one sideline grab. His effectiveness has been meh lately, and it would be smart to groom another late 1st rounder like they did with Wayne.
If they beat the Steelers last year, they're likely winning their second straight SB. The Colts have owned Denver in recent seasons, especially at home. And they would have been nearly double-digit favorites in Detroit vs. Seattle...That's how I thought you were going with this post. But of course they will be strong for the next few seasons as well, as your points attest.On the negative side, the Colts will likely be losing some defensive free agents this season, and Harrison in particular is getting up there in years, and the AFC is loaded with strong teams so it won't be easy come playoff time. However, there's no team in the AFC that is more of a lock for the playoffs. Only the Bears are more of a lock to make the playoffs next year in the entire league, and that's more a comment on the AFC vs. the NFC in terms of strength and depth.
please don't be mocking religion and/or God, thank you
:( Unless voters were going to split the MVP between Rhodes/Addai or give it to the OL, Manning gets it without a clear-cut other choice.
I think I speak for all Colts fans when I say...Your system sucks!
Add Steeler fans to the group...The system is 2-4 in the past 13 months in AFC Championships, NFC Championships and the Super Bowls.I think I speak for all Colts fans when I say...
Your system sucks!
OK, all in good fun, but I've been sorta chuckling at this all off-season. It was pretty apparent to anyone and everyone watching these games that Meeks/Dungy had the D dialed in on stopping the run on 1st/2nd down. Fine, give up big runs of 8-9 yards on 3rd and 14. Who gives a flying F!? This run defense was NOT the same all year. Once they got Sanders and Bethea matched up at the safety position (and then were able to add Jackson as the Nickel; guys got solid tackling ability) there had all the tools to stop the run on obvious rushing downs. I'm not saying they became an elite defense...but every team in the league completely underestimated their ability to commit and stop the run on 1st and 2nd (the exception being the every wiley BB/Brady led Patriots).
Anyway, I appreciate your system...but after seeing the colts play Miami in the season ender and KC in the wild card round; you really should have stopped posting the numbers coming out of your equations for them. G'luck with the tweaking!
Congrats. GG
Thanks. I'm sure the Bears will be back soon there soon.
As a unbiased fan, I feel bad for you, but as an NFL fan, I am glad the better team won. I understand the score thing and I kind of understand, but the Bears did get dominated.As to the final score thing, it is a game of inches. Had Hayden been 1 mm further out, maybe the Colts don't get a TD and the Bears lose by 1 score. On the other hand, the Bears had 3 scores and no missed FGs and the Colts had 6 scores and 1 missed FG. The Bears defense stopped the Colts on their 12 yard line, their 19 yard line, their 7 yard line and their 3 yard line. The defense kept the scoreboard from being a blowout, but every other statistic says that the game was a blowout. Even with just making the XP and gimme 36 yarder, the score would be 33-17, which is within blowout territory.
It's really an awesome feeling when it does. I don't think there's been a classier Colts fan here over the years than you dj. Congratulations, and enjoy it.
So other than the QB, RB, Offensive line, defense, special teams, and coaching you thought the Bears played pretty well, huh?
