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***OFFICIAL Survivor: Blood vs. Water*** (1 Viewer)

Mario Kart said:
krsone21 said:
Beerguzzler said:
NewlyRetired said:
Freelove said:
Mario Kart said:
Mile High said:
The Twinnies from the Amazing Race are also rumored to be part of the cast.
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Can't picture who the twins are?
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The overstuffed Sri Lankan chicks?
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Are you kidding? Possibly the most annoying contestants in the history of reality tv. How could they think they are good for ratings?
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You guys are already talking about them. That's why they want them.
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That is the bottom line. We're talking about them. May be the top villains from this show if others know them.
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I'm not sure if annoying your viewers on purpose is a good idea. People will eventually stop watching if they keep it up.

 
krsone21 said:
Beerguzzler said:
NewlyRetired said:
Freelove said:
Mario Kart said:
Mile High said:
The Twinnies from the Amazing Race are also rumored to be part of the cast.
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Can't picture who the twins are?
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The overstuffed Sri Lankan chicks?
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http://cdn06.realitynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sri-lankan-twins-tar-520x292.png
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Are you kidding? Possibly the most annoying contestants in the history of reality tv. How could they think they are good for ratings?
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You guys are already talking about them. That's why they want them.
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"Any buzz is better than no buzz" kind of made sense in the 80's and 90's, when soundbyte culture reached every house in the country, but nobody could share actual informed opinions with each other.

In the social media world, that's proving to be kind of a poison pill to a lot of people still hung up on that marketing message. People don't still necessarily tune in to see "what all the fuss is about," when they've been informed by their 10,000 closest Facebook friends that the fuss is about being lame and terrible reality TV contestants.

 
Beerguzzler said:
NewlyRetired said:
Freelove said:
Mario Kart said:
Mile High said:
The Twinnies from the Amazing Race are also rumored to be part of the cast.
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Can't picture who the twins are?
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The overstuffed Sri Lankan chicks?
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http://cdn06.realitynation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/sri-lankan-twins-tar-520x292.png
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Are you kidding? Possibly the most annoying contestants in the history of reality tv. How could they think they are good for ratings?
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They weren't even top 3 most annoying the last season they were on. They got eliminated first episode. The mother and deaf son and the couple from big brother were far more annoying than the twins off the top of my head.

 
Walking Boot said:
“Survivor” Editors Go On Strike

The post-production crew of veteran CBS reality/competition “Survivor” has launched a strike against Mark Burnett’s Island Post Prods. Inc., announcing yesterday that no editorial work would resume on the series until the company agrees to a union contract. Post-production on the 90-minute premiere episode, which is scheduled to air on Sept. 24, has been underway. The editors are seeking a union contract with health and retirement benefits and have asked for immediate negotiations through Local 700 of the Intl. Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.

The primary goal of the “Survivor” employees is getting an agreement that includes industry-standard health insurance and pension benefits equal to what fellow Burnett non-scripted series “Shark Tank” and “The Voice” apparently have on their IATSE contracted shows. The upcoming season-premiere of “Survivor” (themed San Juan del Sur), its 29th edition, will lead into the current season-finale, also 90-minutes, of “Big Brother.” If the strike continues, the start of the new fall edition could be delayed.
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Seems like that would be an easy job to hire scabs for.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Walking Boot said:
“Survivor” Editors Go On Strike

The post-production crew of veteran CBS reality/competition “Survivor” has launched a strike against Mark Burnett’s Island Post Prods. Inc., announcing yesterday that no editorial work would resume on the series until the company agrees to a union contract. Post-production on the 90-minute premiere episode, which is scheduled to air on Sept. 24, has been underway. The editors are seeking a union contract with health and retirement benefits and have asked for immediate negotiations through Local 700 of the Intl. Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees.

The primary goal of the “Survivor” employees is getting an agreement that includes industry-standard health insurance and pension benefits equal to what fellow Burnett non-scripted series “Shark Tank” and “The Voice” apparently have on their IATSE contracted shows. The upcoming season-premiere of “Survivor” (themed San Juan del Sur), its 29th edition, will lead into the current season-finale, also 90-minutes, of “Big Brother.” If the strike continues, the start of the new fall edition could be delayed.
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Seems like that would be an easy job to hire scabs for.
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I disagree. I think some of the best editing in film and television these days is going on in reality shows.

 
I get that. And I'm not saying their work is easy. But it's not brain surgery. Hell, I don't even think it's the same as being an actor. Sure, the end product may not end up being as good as if these guys did it, but I would think there are some up and coming people who know their way around, who have done things for free on the internet and who would love a chance.

Again, not diminishing editors.

 
TheIronSheik said:
I get that. And I'm not saying their work is easy. But it's not brain surgery. Hell, I don't even think it's the same as being an actor. Sure, the end product may not end up being as good as if these guys did it, but I would think there are some up and coming people who know their way around, who have done things for free on the internet and who would love a chance.

Again, not diminishing editors.
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I agree. How many editors work on that show? I find it hard to believe that there aren't 15 talented editors in LA that would love to work on that show w/o benefits just to have it on their resume.

 
EYLive said:
TheIronSheik said:
I get that. And I'm not saying their work is easy. But it's not brain surgery. Hell, I don't even think it's the same as being an actor. Sure, the end product may not end up being as good as if these guys did it, but I would think there are some up and coming people who know their way around, who have done things for free on the internet and who would love a chance.

Again, not diminishing editors.
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I agree. How many editors work on that show? I find it hard to believe that there aren't 15 talented editors in LA that would love to work on that show w/o benefits just to have it on their resume.
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If you break a strike for union benefits, it's tougher to later join the union.

 
Walking Boot said:
TheIronSheik said:
I get that. And I'm not saying their work is easy. But it's not brain surgery. Hell, I don't even think it's the same as being an actor. Sure, the end product may not end up being as good as if these guys did it, but I would think there are some up and coming people who know their way around, who have done things for free on the internet and who would love a chance.

Again, not diminishing editors.
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A difficult thing, at this point in time, would be playing catch-up to the footage shot. They do film 24 hours a day for 30-something days. Having someone come in cold, today, not knowing names of players or anything, it would be difficult to get them up to speed on just knowing what they have footage of in order to edit it down in time for the premiere.

Editing takes more time than you think, too, it's not like you can edit up until they day before it airs.

The director is granted a limited amount of time with the footage, exclusively, to do "the director's cut". Then the producers need time to edit off of that. Then the production company itself views and gives notes. Then it's polished up and sent to the network for feedback. Then, it's re-edited and occasionally sent to the network a second time for notes. Then, after notes are addressed, the picture is "locked" and work begins on sound. Some sound editor has to go through all the footage again for the master sound that was used to create the edit. Sound effects are looped in. Music is composed that syncs with the action on screen. Color correction is done so that a green shirt looks the same under a cloudy sky as it does when it is sunny. Graphics are dropped in--it doesn't sound like much, but doing just the simple text of players names ties up the master tape for four to six hours, during which time no other work can be done. Finally, the mix is done, a two-day process using an 80-channel mixing board getting everything just right. Then, once that's done, the master is ready for delivery.

But, you can't deliver the day before air, because that leaves no time to do closed captioning and audio re-mixing for foreign markets (I don't remember if "Survivor" airs the same day in different countries, but if it does, you need a day or two to dub in another language). And now there's a law that Descriptive Video has to be simulcast (closed captioning for the blind, in which the action on screen is described for the blind audience).
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Backing it all up and the editor has to finish a show 8 to 15 days before it's broadcast sometimes. So to premiere 9/24 the editor might have to finish it by the first week of September. Bringing a guy on board now would doom them.

Even if the first few episodes are done (and I would hope they are) by now, the still air 1 a week and it takes 1-2 weeks to post-finish after the editor is finished, so they're always "running behind" the airdate. That's why they have to start so far ahead sometimes. The whole thing is structured so that the finale is finished on the latest day possible and gets there as "just in time delivery", like in many other industries. But a delay now would push that date indefinitely. I would imagine that CBS does not want to air the to-date finished episodes, then take 6-8 weeks of no "Survivor", then bring it back when the strike is over. They probably want assurance that Mark Burnett is going to hit his finale date before they air a single episode so they can air uninterrupted. They'll delay airing the finished "in the can" episodes until they know when they can air the finale, then back up 13 weeks from there.
Well damn. i learned something today.

 
really, the twinnies.... Fat, ugly and annoying, perfect for television <_<

Looks like a lack of eye candy this year in general.

 
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Disco Stu said:
PinkydaPimp said:
'Survivor' host Jeff Probst explains why they ditched the Redemption Island twist
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Ok, that sounds pretty good. Head-to-head challenge against your loved one... loser goes to exile island.

It also looked like they were drawing for buffs. And I just noticed there are more men than women this year. Boooo

Edit: maybe it wasn't a random draw for tribes. You see one tribe clearly at the 3:35 mark... looks like they split up all the pairs.
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I heard that there was supposed to be another female pair but 1 or both of them had to withdraw for medical reasons so they ended up with more men than women this season.

 
EYLive said:
Beerguzzler said:
EYLive said:
phatdawg said:
Shaft41 said:
New cast released today for the latest Blood vs. Water. John Rocker should be fantastic. http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/
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Ugh ... the twinnies from Amazing Race. :wall:
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Neither have any chance of winning.
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They have a chance of 100% chance of being annoying on every episode.
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The chance is actually 200% cuz there are 2 of these banshees.
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Interesting twist in they have 2 ex-surivior cast members as a team in the Amazing Race.
 
Who's the quitter this time? Is it that difficult? I can see it being a little whelming because its different but c'mon.

 
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