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**Official** "The Office" Thread (1 Viewer)

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Pam and Angela both preggers.

I thought Jan would have been a great new boss, but I am giving Spader the benefit of the doubt.

Kevin: WARNING WARNING

 
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So I've taken a vacation from this show for the past few seasons but watched last night and was pleasantly surprised. Having Andy take Michael's place is a good move, and the office dynamic with James Spader is a nice new twist.

Can anyone explain Toby's awkward departure from lunch? I missed what he said.

 
Not too crazy about it. Wish they didn't have to write in Jenna's pregnancy, but understand why they did since she's put on so much weight that it couldn't be hidden (unlike Angela's real life pregnancy a couple seasons ago.) Dislike Robert California somehow talking his way into becoming CEO. Andy just seems like Michael Scott Lite. Would've been better to give it to Darrell who would honestly try hard but keep failing. And what was Gabe doing back? Last we saw of him, he got sent back to Tallahassee by Kathy Bates.

The plot itself was good.

 
'Sarnoff said:
I don't miss Steve Carrell at all.
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Steve was too cartoony the last 2 seasons. Andy reminds me of early Michael Scott. The one that was afraid to tell his boss any bad news (i.e. losing a big client) and thought non-victories were big triumphs (i.e. getting a half day off, like they have the past several years.)
 
Don't like Stanley's new catch phrase. Too out of character for him. Odds that Angela's and the Senator's baby was conceived by IVF?

 
Didn't like the choice of Andy as the boss, he was the character most similar to Michael Scott so the office dynamic will likely be the exact same.

 
'Killerclown said:
Didn't like the choice of Andy as the boss, he was the character most similar to Michael Scott so the office dynamic will likely be the exact same.
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Yup. That usually spells doom for a show. If you have to replace a character, replace him with someone different, not a clone. Look at MASH, which is one of the best comedies of all time. Winchester was different from Burns. Potter was different from Blake. BJ was different from Trapper.
 
Nowhere near as good without Carell but that was expected. Was OK I guess. Andy as the new branch manager was all right but nobody is going to replace or come close to Michael Scott. Not sure what all the contract situations are but I'd be surprised if the show went on past this season. I'll probably keep watching mainly because I like the characters and it's a decent way to pass the time for 30 minutes, but my expectations are pretty low at this point.

 
'Rayderr said:
Don't like Stanley's new catch phrase. Too out of character for him. Odds that Angela's and the Senator's baby was conceived by IVF?
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If it's Senator/Angela, i'll definitely be looking for trends to report in the "when gay is gay" thread. Of course, we'll still have nature/nurture concerns, cuz Angela could gay Chuck Norris's seed.
 
'Rayderr said:
'Killerclown said:
Didn't like the choice of Andy as the boss, he was the character most similar to Michael Scott so the office dynamic will likely be the exact same.
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Yup. That usually spells doom for a show. If you have to replace a character, replace him with someone different, not a clone. Look at MASH, which is one of the best comedies of all time. Winchester was different from Burns. Potter was different from Blake. BJ was different from Trapper.
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Correct me if I'm wrong on my M.A.S.H. history, but ther difference betweem Michael/Andy and all the other examples you gave is that they were introduced when the previous character left. It would have seemed contrived to bring in a similar character to play essentially the same role (a la "The Dukes of Hazzard"). In Andy's case he's been around for a couple of seasons and has always had some of Michael's characteristics.
 
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I did not get the vibe last night. Spader will be good in short bursts. Andy as the new boss is meh right now. Not sure how that will work out but didn't feel it last night.

 
'Mario Kart said:
I did not get the vibe last night. Spader will be good in short bursts. Andy as the new boss is meh right now. Not sure how that will work out but didn't feel it last night.
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Spader isn't working for me. I like him but he didn't wow me in the cameo in last season's finale and nothing improved last night. Maybe there's more to the character that will make him ... I don't know ... funny?
 
Spader was better in the interview show & summer commercials than in Ep 1. I thought he was going to be the Jedi Master of Officeness and all these directionless people were going to abandon the trivialities of their own lives to follow & cultishly adore him, with the inevitable letdowns putting the characters back in their places one-by-one and Randy California's magic seen for the yet-another Kingdom of the Mind that it inevitably has to be. Didnt achieve that.

 
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'wikkidpissah said:
Spader was better in the interview show & summer commercials than in Ep 1. I thought he was going to be the Jedi Master of Officeness and all these directionless people were going to abandon the trivialities of their own lives to follow & cultishly adore him, with the inevitable letdowns putting the characters back in their places one-by-one and Randy California's magic seen for the yet-another Kingdom of the Mind that it inevitably has to be. Didnt achieve that.
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Although, the culmination of the whole "Winners, prove me right; losers, prove me wrong" bit did have an element of Jedi mind trick about it.
 
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'wikkidpissah said:
Spader was better in the interview show & summer commercials than in Ep 1. I thought he was going to be the Jedi Master of Officeness and all these directionless people were going to abandon the trivialities of their own lives to follow & cultishly adore him, with the inevitable letdowns putting the characters back in their places one-by-one and Randy California's magic seen for the yet-another Kingdom of the Mind that it inevitably has to be. Didnt achieve that.
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Although, the culmination of the whole "Winners, prove me right; losers, prove me wrong" bit did have an element of Jedi mind trick about it.
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tru dat. i just expected more of a swoon than a size-up. would have been funnier.
 
Still not liking Andy as the new boss. Only difference between him and Michael Scott last night was that Michael would've refused to go to the tattoo parlor.

 
I think there is some hope that the show could still be good. Still enough funny moments, but the opening bit with Kevin talking stupid was just horrible. That was one of the worst segments in the history of the show.

 
'Ghost Rider said:
I think there is some hope that the show could still be good. Still enough funny moments, but the opening bit with Kevin talking stupid was just horrible. That was one of the worst segments in the history of the show.
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:goodposting: Horrible to the point of almost being unwatchable. I liked the rest of the episode though.

 
As i feared, the line-counting is really hurting the show. Still funnier than most and we should enjoy while we can, because programming policy will truly be keeping the funny off of broadcast, and sooner than later.

 
The show is clearly dying now but it will be a slow, 3 to 4 seasons death. If Kelly wasn't on the show it would have bled out already. Why they didn't make Creed the boss i'll never know.

 
There were some pretty good lines/spots in the last couple of episodes but somethings just keep missing the mark. It seems like a lot of the jokes are out of place and being forced: Stanley's new catch-phrase, Kevin's caveman talk, Pam's preggo emotions, etc. And what was with Daryl and his ex-wife? Just a set up for future gags?

 
I thought last night was one of the better episodes of the series. Great lines all over the place.

I looked it up, and BJ Novak wrote ep. 1 and Paul Lieberstein(Toby) wrote ep. 2.

 
I wonder if the show creators had a different idea for who should be boss but NBC execs pressured for Andy because Helms is the big movie star of the cast and they figure he would be good for ratings.

Daryl would have been a good choice.

 
A couple laughs, but generally it was painful to watch. I think that'll be the end of me watching this show unless I hear it's improved.

 
Decent Halloween episode.

"Pecker poker. It's the game of cards that gets you hard."

Erin looks good in that Wendy costume.

I wonder if Wendy's paid for the "advertisement".

Who is Andy dating? This is the first show that feels like the old office with Michael.

 
Best episode of the season, so far.

Jenna Fischer is really a good sport about insults directed at her. There have been numerous fat jokes throughout the season, and tonight Dwight's assessment: you peaked at the age of twenty-four with a gradual decline, then got pregnant, had a slow recovery, and now well, you are at your all-time low.

That's harsh.

 
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