Rayderr
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Co-wrote and starring in Promised Land with Matt Damon.
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**Official** "The Office" Thread (1 Viewer)
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pollardsvision
Footballguy
He made a little cash to star in a big budget film opposite Drew Barrymore. He did it while getting paid a ton to mail in perrformances on a dying, but highly rated TV show.I'd say it worked out okay.
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Sarnoff
Footballguy
We've definitely heard them off camera before, right? Was this just the first time in front of the lens? Or hasn't that happened too, once?
was it just me, or was his hand rubbing pam's leg?
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
It looked like he was into her. I hope that she isn't his "real" wife and this documentary is all fake. Then again, why would she be crying.
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I hope she ends up with Erin.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
I know Jim and Pam are gonna end up together but I'm a little shocked they threw a new love interest in on the last season.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Which begs the question: does anyone think Jim and Pam are going to end up apart? No. So it's pretty weak.'iamsmilin said:
SlaX
Footballguy
They ruined any chance of one of them cheating on the other when Jim blew off Pam's replacement when Pam was pregnant.
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Eviloutsider
Footballguy
Hate this angle. I would have been completely cool with them getting rid of this entire storyline and focusing on each of the smaller characters for an episode instead.
Dexter
Footballguy
Agreed. Pam and Jim's love actually have dept in this show unlike the other characters relationship. Having one or the other cheat would destroy who they are on the show.I'm also confused by the writing. I'm not sure if they are trying to make Jim the bad guy or Pam the #####y wife?
identikit
Footballguy
I think the past few eps have been pretty good. I think they should have gone with Dwight as the boss from the get-go. Having more "normal" characters (Pete, Dwight Jr.) has helped, as well.For the record, the decline started well before Carrell left the show - when they morphed Michael into Homer Simpson and turned all of the side characters into cartoons.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
I don't think Pam and Jim stay together. Jim leaves for Philly and Pam stays in Scranton.
would they really piss on the show's legacy like that? I know they've spent the last five years pissing on it, but who's going to buy DVDs for season two knowing how it really ends?
Dexter
Footballguy
That guy probably means depth. He's an idiot.
Dexter
Footballguy
That's the thing. I think they are trying to make Jim the bad guy, but I don't think he's doing anything wrong. I guess I'm going with Pam is a #####y wife
Rayderr
Footballguy
My only thinking is that they're going to try (again) to recreate the end to the British Office. Pam & Jim drift apart, but at the end, Jim rips off his microphone, goes into the conference room, says something which we can't hear, and they kiss and live happily ever after.
SlaX
Footballguy
Michael driving the car into the pond because the GPS told him to comes to mind here.
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
I don't think they are trying to make either of them the bad guy. I think they are trying to make it realistic and simulate things that happen in real life.Jim realizes his career is non-existent and sees an opportunity to do something he always wanted and to provide for his family. He feels guilty and is t forthcoming with the details and gets in without really thinking about things like investing 10k. He is enjoying his work and not really thinking too much about bow hard it is on his wife.
Pam loves her husband and is hurt that he would try to hide anything from her. She's as supportive as she can be but gets mad when he seems to takes her for granted. He's away a lot and she leans on a male friend in a time of crisis and realizes the friend has feelings for her. She also realizes she's been feeling neglected and probably enjoys the attention, even if she feels guilty about it.
Personally, I think this is one of the better story lines they've had in a while. It has some basis in reality unlike the mobile office episode.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
This show just needs to wrap it up. How many episodes left?
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Sounds great, except this used to be one of the funniest sitcoms I've ever seen, not a relationship drama. The show was awesome because of the ridiculous, inappropriate and hilarious things Michael would say and do. Jim and Pam and much of the rest of the office played his straight man. Then you had assorted oddballs like Kevin, Dwight and Kelly to say and do other crazy/stupid/funny things, and it rounded out the whole quirky ensemble vibe. It worked perfectly.I was over Jim and Pam once it was clear they were together for good. And since then, everything has gone more or less perfectly for them, to the point they have become really boring. To show them having a bump in the road in their final season is kind of pointless because no one believes their marriage is in any danger, but more importantly, IT ISN'T FUNNY.
The show ahould have kept the Michael Scott Paper Company plot permanent.The dynamic with Michael, Ryan and Pam was great. Having Dight be a rival and having jim have an SOB for a boss were nice touches. Then they hit the reset button back to stale, befor ethey really got awful with the whole Sabre thing
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I thought the subtle references to Michael having a crush on Ryan were
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
I'll agree it isn't that funny anymore. I'll disagree that it's not a relationship drama. Like it or not, the Jim/Pam story line has been central to the entire show, the one constant. The relationship itself wasn't ever used for comedy but as a catalyst for other things. The show was always a comedy but the better comedies throw relationship dynamics into the mix. Problem with the Office is that the show shoulda stopped awhile ago.It's funny, you are complaining that it was great because the characters did stupid and whacky things. Other posters complained it jumped the shark when Michael only did stupid and whacky things.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
It wasn't that funny to begin with. It was never the kind of sitcom that had a laugh-a-minute. It was always two or three chuckles per episode at best.
packersfan
Footballguy
I don't have a problem with putting some angst into the Jim/Pam storyline although I agree how it's being handled isn't funny. My biggest beef is they finally show us some of the people making this documentary (totally unnecessary by the way; it wasn't a burning question I always wanted answered) and the one they show us just happens to be madly in love with Pam. Feels forced and contrived.I'm seriously bummed Carell won't be coming back. The show should've ended when he left but it would be great if he at least returned for the finale. I keep hoping he might sneak in as a surprise.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
Stupid that they go through the whole search to replace him, then the actor that wins the part leaves the show. Same thing with Kal Penn's Kutner and Olivia Wilde as 13 on House.
packersfan
Footballguy
Is Ed Helms gone for good? Trying to turn Andy into another Michael was another gigantic blunder. Only served to underscore how great Carell was, how much he was missed and how important Michael was to the show.ETA - or were you referring to Spader?
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Still a lot of loose ends to wrap up in the last ten episodes:-Why has this office been filmed for nine years? What will happen with the footage? I honestly have no idea what will happen with this.-Will Jim and Pam end up separated? I think the obvious answer is "no", but who will sacrifice this time for the sake of the relationship? Could watching the documentary help them appreciate each other again?-Will Jim's business fail? Who will provide additional capital?-Will Andy continue to be jerk Andy or revert to being nice guy Andy? What happens with Erin?-What will happen with Dwight and Angela? I suspect they will end up together after Angela dumps the senator. Who is the baby's father?-Who is the Scranton Strangler? There have been some strong clues tying this to Toby, but too obvious?-How will Michael tie into the ending? I agree that he will not show up in the office, but I could see him watching the documentary footage as we get an update on him and Holly.I've enjoyed this season after an awful season eight. Not on par with seasons 2-6, but solid television.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
He left to film "Hangover 3", but he's still contractually part of the show, so if he wraps the movie in time he can return for the last run of episodes.
iamsmilin
I want one, but I'm not creative
They have already had an episode about that, so unless they change the results, the Dwight is not the father.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
The Office is syndicated, right? I almost never see it on.30 Rock's everywhere, GB.
packersfan
Footballguy
It's on a couple of stations here in Wisconsin every week night. It's on after Conan on TBS sometimes too.
SlaX
Footballguy
It was syndicated, but I think Big Bang took it's spot in every time slot I can think of. Friends still has plenty of air time.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Lately the writing and even how some of the characters behave seem completely disconnected from earlier seasons. Dwight in particular is all over the place, is he distrustful, conniving, yet kind of clueless, or is he a downright sociopath, or borderline delusional? And Andy to a lesser extent, though he's not even on the show anymore. The later characters added to the show are weak in my opinion too, the British lady and the IT dudes especially. Erin was never great in my opinion. Kevin, Creed, Toby and Meredith have had some of the funniest one-liners over the years and continue to be underutilized. I find myself not really caring too much how they wrap up all the storylines, since now it just feels like a bunch of actors and writers stuck with something really bad and unfunny. But I'm compelled to watch after it was my favorite show for so long.
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Moreso than ever with Andy this weekend, as iamsmilin alluded to, they're drastically changing characters' personalities to create storylines. Even Jim, to some extent. The new Andy is just beyond horrible.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The change in Andy's character really isn't that surprising when you go back and watch his character from the start. He was always kind of a jerk, but kind of softened once he realized that he was just gonna be another salesman at the Scranton location. But since becoming boss, the jerk in him has come back out, and let's face it, that happens a lot: someone who was just one of the guys gets promoted, starts power tripping and gets a major attitude now that he considers his former peers now beneath him.
Rick James
Footballguy
Hold on, are you guys saying The Nard Dog is back? That's awesome. I hated when they turned Andy to a wuss.
Originial Andy was hilarious.
Originial Andy was hilarious.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
No he isn't back. He's worse than ever.
packersfan
Footballguy
So the receptionist is dumping the guy who treats her bad for the shaggy-haired guy in the office?Interesting storyline.
SlaX
Footballguy
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Terrible. Not one laugh.
