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**OFFICIAL***Tigers/Rangers ALCS Thread (1 Viewer)
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Walton Goggins
Footballguy
YEA BABY!!!!
Apple Juice
Footballguy
Wat
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Gimme a break. Didn't blow a save all year. Petty to rip him even a little now.
He has been good all year. Save the ignorant comments for Comer.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
That's why you give cokehead managers a second chance.
Bogart
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
With the Phillies gone, no excuse for the Rangers not to win it all now.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
Scoscia watching at home thinking "Sure am glad I let Napoli walk." Yeah, Napoli sucks, not an everyday player.
Doctor Detroit
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This is worse than the Goggins post, seriously. WTF is wrong with you?
Premier
Footballguy
I think they babied him all year. Weren't something like all but one of his save situations just one-inning affairs?
Doctor Detroit
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He's 52 for 52, most closers just pitch one inning these days. Guy has been nails all year, they should have won that game like game 2 long before the 11th.
Premier
Footballguy
I know his numbers are fine this year, I just don't think he's all that great and Leyland did a good job of babying him.
Not meaning to flame anybody, I just don't think he's really good.Edit: pretty sure I said something similar when the Rays were playing the Tigers earlier this year, so it's not exactly a new sentiment for me.
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Doctor Detroit
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Well that loss isn't on Valverde and the Tigers are 82-0 when leading after the 7th inning this year. Mariano only pitches the ninth, Papelbon only pitches the ninth and Heath Bell only pitches the ninth. Not sure what to say, it was a team loss and Valverde had only a small part in the loss. Just frustrating because these teams are different in strengths yet about even, yet the Tigers are on the wrong end of a 3-1 series. And your post couldn't have been worse than anything by goggins, I just wanted to exaggerate a bit since I think you did the same.I know his numbers are fine this year, I just don't think he's all that great and Leyland did a good job of babying him.
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Disco Stu
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I'm pregnant with Nellie and Napoli's love child. Wat.
Premier
Footballguy
Well to be fair, I saw where you said the Rays should be contracted today, and I knew that Valverde comment would honk you off.Well that loss isn't on Valverde and the Tigers are 82-0 when leading after the 7th inning this year. Mariano only pitches the ninth, Papelbon only pitches the ninth and Heath Bell only pitches the ninth. Not sure what to say, it was a team loss and Valverde had only a small part in the loss. Just frustrating because these teams are different in strengths yet about even, yet the Tigers are on the wrong end of a 3-1 series. And your post couldn't have been worse than anything by goggins, I just wanted to exaggerate a bit since I think you did the same.I know his numbers are fine this year, I just don't think he's all that great and Leyland did a good job of babying him.
Doctor Detroit
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toucheWell to be fair, I saw where you said the Rays should be contracted today, and I knew that Valverde comment would honk you off.Well that loss isn't on Valverde and the Tigers are 82-0 when leading after the 7th inning this year. Mariano only pitches the ninth, Papelbon only pitches the ninth and Heath Bell only pitches the ninth. Not sure what to say, it was a team loss and Valverde had only a small part in the loss. Just frustrating because these teams are different in strengths yet about even, yet the Tigers are on the wrong end of a 3-1 series. And your post couldn't have been worse than anything by goggins, I just wanted to exaggerate a bit since I think you did the same.I know his numbers are fine this year, I just don't think he's all that great and Leyland did a good job of babying him.
Walton Goggins
Footballguy
I said Rangers in 5. Why can't you surrender and accept it.
Tremendous Upside
Footballguy
Any closer on his 3rd consecutive day of pitching, in another multiple inning outing is going to be on fumes. I was surprised Leyland sent him out for a second inning tonight, personally. Can't put it on Valverde IMO.
Doctor Detroit
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Subtitle seems about right. 
There are so many key things in a baseball game. What if Delmon Young had hit that ball fair to make it 3-0? What if the Rangers would have gotten a hit off Al-Al in the 7th? What if Kinsler hadn't stolen third? The Elvis ball was an out otherwise. What if Delmon's fly ball had gone ten feet further? A lot happens and by the time you roll into extra innings there were 100 things that could have changed the complexion of the game. I thought Leyland might go Coke in the 11th because Hamilton was leading off but it didn't matter after Coke, Tigers needed to win it in the bottom of the 11th because then we were looking at Perry or Penny. Valverde has been awesome all year, no way he can be blamed after throwing 4+ innings over the past three days.
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Da Guru
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Really had nobody else. Ryan Perry? Brad Penny? Scherleth?About Valverdes season, I think it was a combo of being very good at times, and getting good breaks at times. There were many outings I felt he was not that good but got away with the save. Results are all that matter in this business. The Rangers have a tough lineup to get through unscathed. When you have to face Nelson Cruz out of the 7th spot it will tax most staffs.And if Porcello had not thrown away the pickoff attempt we would not being talking about this. It would be 2-2 with Verlander going today. I already had envisioned a 2-2 series and Verlander tossing a CG today and getting the staff rested.
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Disco Stu
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Cabrera would have been out by three feet instead of eight?
Greco
Footballguy
Trying to steal second with one out and Cabrerra on deck was very confusing to me. I know I have the benefit of hindsight, but even if he's successful and Raburn makes an out, you've taken the bat out of Cabrerra's hand. With two out and Jackson on first I can't believe Washington would walk Cabrerra. Of course, he walked him with no one on earlier, so maybe I'm just babbling.
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
It was a good run Tigers fans. 
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Going back to Texas 3-2 is not that bad. If Max can have a good outing it will be up to Mister Fister to take us home.It was a good run Tigers fans.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!It was a good run Tigers fans.
Doctor Detroit
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Ugh
Bogart
Footballguy
Tough task to win three straight games, including two on the road, to a team that has not lost back-to-back games, since late August.Going back to Texas 3-2 is not that bad. If Max can have a good outing it will be up to Mister Fister to take us home.It was a good run Tigers fans.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
ESPN just reported no Valverde no Benoit tonight.
Doctor Detroit
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Justin at 96 pitches, maybe two more innings. I think they have to get two more, let him go to 130. He did that once this year but went over 120 ten times.
Scoring a few runs on some singles would be great. I know they are banged up but it's hard to believe how they just can't score besides extra base knocks.
Scoring a few runs on some singles would be great. I know they are banged up but it's hard to believe how they just can't score besides extra base knocks.
tri-man 47
Footballguy
We did in June.
We can do this ...we've got two good arms out there, and we're getting contributions from a number of guys. We need some action from Jackson, though.
Bogart
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure he is trying the reverse jinx there.We did in June.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Verlander's 133rd pitch was 100mph. 
Doctor Detroit
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Strangely, I'm a lot calmer watching the Cardinals/Brewers series. I wonder why that is? 
Coke tried to kill me today, wasn't the first time that happened, but I didn't expect that in 2011.
Coke tried to kill me today, wasn't the first time that happened, but I didn't expect that in 2011.
Well at least it wasn't Fister. That would have been way too much information. NTTATWWT.'Doctor Detroit said:Strangely, I'm a lot calmer watching the Cardinals/Brewers series. I wonder why that is?
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough... The tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!It was a good run Tigers fans.
Leyland tends to be overly cautious with protecting players health. I think he miscalculated the extent of the injury. Besides I think he kept too many pitchers on his rooster, and already had a short bench and could not afford holding someone on who wasn't healthy enough to play.
scrumptrulescent
Footballguy
I used to keep too many pitchers on my rooster in my college days, can't pull that off now with the wife and all. Kudos to Jimmy Smokes.
Doctor Detroit
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He goes on what the trainers and medical staff tell him. It was a healthy Worth or putting Delmon in there hoping he'd recover from the same injury that kept him out 19 days earlier this year. Leyland isn't a doctor and I don't think he pretends to be one in the dugout either.
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