***OFFICIAL TRADE RUMORS MASTER THREAD*** (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Ken Griffey Jr, Morgan Ensberg, Todd Helton, Eric Gagne? Lots of names being thrown around and a lot of teams with needs.

Tigers have been rumored to be looking at the retired Troy Percival and do need bullpen help. What would they give Texas for Gagne? Not much I hope.

 

[lions327]

The Tigers have to be considering some moves relating to their bullpen. Last year, before we even got to Jones, we had Zumaya (out until August or so), Rodney (not as good as last year and has missed a few days), and Walker (gone to Baltimore). That is a lot to overcome. Mesa looks terrible and I have to think his days are numbers unless he drastically improves.

I'm not sure what Gagne is worth. His numbers looks decent, but I haven't seen him pitch, so hard for me to give a good opinion. But I do see the Tigers making a move to solidify the back end of the bullpen. It seems to be the only weakness right now.

 

[FairWarning]

Tigers may want to take a look at Scott Eyre for a cheaper alternetive. His days in Chicago could be soon over and he would be going to a nice pitchers park.

 

[Berserker]

Lord please let the Astros trade Ensberg. I'd be happy getting a sack of potatoes in return.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Lord please let the Astros trade Ensberg. I'd be happy getting a sack of potatoes in return.

I heard the Lidge is on the block. Any truth there?

 

[Righetti]

Hideki Matsui for Ichiro

Ichiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

 

[lions327]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Matsui is signed through 2009 and Ichiro is signed through October.It keeps a Japanese star in Seattle which the original poster stated.It's not that far-fetched.

 

[Sea Bass]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Ichiro will be playing his home games as the cf in fenway next year.

 

[Billy Bats]

Everybody's getting traded to the Yankees.

 

[the moops]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

 

[lions327]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

 

[eoMMan]

Aaron Roward for pitching.

He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

 

[the moops]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

I'm exaggerating slightly.However, there is not a hug gap between the 2. Ichiro is way overhyped. Hideki is kinda overlooked.Ichiro is a much better fielder and base runner.Hideki hits for more power. Their OBP is the same...however Ichiro's OBP is directly related to his ability to hit the ball where people aren't. If he loses some speed and some of BABIP, he will regress.OPS+ has Hideki at 126. Ichiro at 120

 

[Billy Bats]

Aaron Roward for pitching.He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

Think about this for a minute, do we really want Jayson Werth or Michael Bourn to become an everyday player?? I sure don't. Truth is, we really don't have anything to trade to get the pitching help we truly need.

 

[General Malaise]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Matsui is signed through 2009 and Ichiro is signed through October.It keeps a Japanese star in Seattle which the original poster stated.It's not that far-fetched.

Kenji Jojima may not be big news here, but in the Pacific Northwest and back in Japan, he's a stud.

 

[lions327]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

:(

I'm exaggerating slightly.However, there is not a hug gap between the 2. Ichiro is way overhyped. Hideki is kinda overlooked.Ichiro is a much better fielder and base runner.Hideki hits for more power. Their OBP is the same...however Ichiro's OBP is directly related to his ability to hit the ball where people aren't. If he loses some speed and some of BABIP, he will regress.OPS+ has Hideki at 126. Ichiro at 120

Ichiro is a much more rounded player. He plays great defense, has one of the best arms around, is a great base stealer and is one of the best hitters in the game. I don't think there is a comparison between him and Matsui except they both came from Japan.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Aaron Roward for pitching.He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

Think about this for a minute, do we really want Jayson Werth or Michael Bourn to become an everyday player?? I sure don't. Truth is, we really don't have anything to trade to get the pitching help we truly need.

Although trading Rowand when his trade value is ablut as high as it'll ever get IMO doesn't sound like a bad idea. Getting pitching in trades these days isn't easy though. How are the Phillies set in the minors for pitching?

 

[The Houston Stallions]

Lord please let the Astros trade Ensberg. I'd be happy getting a sack of potatoes in return.

I heard a rumor about getting Scott Baker so Minn could use both Garza and Slowey.

 

[Righetti]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

I'm exaggerating slightly.However, there is not a hug gap between the 2. Ichiro is way overhyped. Hideki is kinda overlooked.Ichiro is a much better fielder and base runner.Hideki hits for more power. Their OBP is the same...however Ichiro's OBP is directly related to his ability to hit the ball where people aren't. If he loses some speed and some of BABIP, he will regress.OPS+ has Hideki at 126. Ichiro at 120

Ichiro is a much more rounded player. He plays great defense, has one of the best arms around, is a great base stealer and is one of the best hitters in the game. I don't think there is a comparison between him and Matsui except they both came from Japan.

The ownership want to keep a big start on the Mariners and Matsui is the biggest star in Japan who is signed long term...I don't think the M's are going to resign Ichiro and I could see the Yanks signing him longterm..

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Hideki Matsui for IchiroIchiro is on the last year of his deal and most people dont' think he'll resign with the Mariners... The Japanese ownership would like to keep a major Japanese star on their team and Matsui would fit into their plans

Why on earth would Seattle make a trade like that?

Because, if healthy, Matsui is a better ballplayer than Ichiro?

I'm exaggerating slightly.However, there is not a hug gap between the 2. Ichiro is way overhyped. Hideki is kinda overlooked.Ichiro is a much better fielder and base runner.Hideki hits for more power. Their OBP is the same...however Ichiro's OBP is directly related to his ability to hit the ball where people aren't. If he loses some speed and some of BABIP, he will regress.OPS+ has Hideki at 126. Ichiro at 120

Ichiro is a much more rounded player. He plays great defense, has one of the best arms around, is a great base stealer and is one of the best hitters in the game. I don't think there is a comparison between him and Matsui except they both came from Japan.

I don't think the M's are going to resign Ichiro and I could see the Yanks signing him longterm..

Really? Mariners spend more than the majority of teams and they've given a lot of money to Sexon and Beltre. If they are gonna shell out money to those guys and Ichiro wants to stay, I can see them opening up the wallets to keep the stands full. In fact I'd be surprised if Ichiro left. This doesn't sound like a rumor, this sounds like a dream by a Yankees fan. The Mariners aren't the Royals guy.

 

[Righetti]

 

[Righetti]

who said the mariners were the same as the Royals?

you started a thread about possible trades, rumors etc. I heard this trade on NY Radio discussed yesterday.. Do I think it will happened...NO, but your thread was about things you are hearing that might possibly have some life to it.

you started this thing, why are you so upset that people are responding

very strange.

by the way.. I love the contacting NASA thing.. more updates on that please, seriously

 

[dparker713]

Lord please let the Astros trade Ensberg. I'd be happy getting a sack of potatoes in return.

I heard the Lidge is on the block. Any truth there?

Teams have been inquiring about him, but its unlikely hes traded unless the astros completely tank. The team still thinks they can turn him around, though I have my doubts. Essentially, they seem to want to trade him when he's getting blown up, but at full value. When he's going well, they just dont want to trade him. So, he'll be a $6 million set up man.

 

[Billy Bats]

Aaron Roward for pitching.

He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

Think about this for a minute, do we really want Jayson Werth or Michael Bourn to become an everyday player?? I sure don't. Truth is, we really don't have anything to trade to get the pitching help we truly need.

Although trading Rowand when his trade value is ablut as high as it'll ever get IMO doesn't sound like a bad idea. Getting pitching in trades these days isn't easy though. How are the Phillies set in the minors for pitching?

As barren as the Sahara. Like you mentioned, acquiring pitching isn't easy, as alot of teams are looking for it. As nice a season that Rowand is having, I'm sure someone could offer plenty more.

I read in someone's blog that Teixeira could eventually wind up in Baltimore.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

who said the mariners were the same as the Royals?you started a thread about possible trades, rumors etc. I heard this trade on NY Radio discussed yesterday.. Do I think it will happened...NO, but your thread was about things you are hearing that might possibly have some life to it.you started this thing, why are you so upset that people are respondingvery strange.

My bad, carry on.

 

[Bobcat10]

No rumors yet that I can remember.

I would bet on Shapiro making a move.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect.

Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

 

[s_ezy]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

outta curiosity what are the tigers paying him?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

outta curiosity what are the tigers paying him?

2.5 mill

 

[DCThunder]

Aaron Roward for pitching.

He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

Think about this for a minute, do we really want Jayson Werth or Michael Bourn to become an everyday player?? I sure don't. Truth is, we really don't have anything to trade to get the pitching help we truly need.

Although trading Rowand when his trade value is ablut as high as it'll ever get IMO doesn't sound like a bad idea. Getting pitching in trades these days isn't easy though. How are the Phillies set in the minors for pitching?

As barren as the Sahara. Like you mentioned, acquiring pitching isn't easy, as alot of teams are looking for it. As nice a season that Rowand is having, I'm sure someone could offer plenty more.

I read in someone's blog that Teixeira could eventually wind up in Baltimore.

The O's do need a regular first baseman, and they have a little pitching to spare, and he is from Severna Park. He'd look good in an O's uni.

 

[eoMMan]

Aaron Roward for pitching.

He's been a hot hitter and the Phils could get something for him, but knowing the Phils, they won't do jack.

Think about this for a minute, do we really want Jayson Werth or Michael Bourn to become an everyday player?? I sure don't. Truth is, we really don't have anything to trade to get the pitching help we truly need.

Although trading Rowand when his trade value is ablut as high as it'll ever get IMO doesn't sound like a bad idea. Getting pitching in trades these days isn't easy though. How are the Phillies set in the minors for pitching?

As barren as the Sahara. Like you mentioned, acquiring pitching isn't easy, as alot of teams are looking for it. As nice a season that Rowand is having, I'm sure someone could offer plenty more.

I read in someone's blog that Teixeira could eventually wind up in Baltimore.

Yeah, my point was that Roward is playing WELL over his head. He's not a .320 hitter. Heck, he's not a .300 hitter. He's not this good. The Phils would be wise to get rid of him before he really tails off.It's kinda funny......I'm pretty sure the Phils are paying about 2 million to Rod Barajas. That money could have gotten another arm in the bullpen.

Regarding your Werth or Bourn question, I think Bourn would make a good everyday centerfielder. I can see something like a .260 average, 40 SB's, and 100 runs.....if he plays everyday.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

...and if this happens, Manny Corpas becomes the closer in Colorado.

 

[deep vacuum]

Just a gut feeling on my part but I could see Geoff Jenkins, Brewers LF getting dealt closer to the trading deadline. The Brewers are carrying 6 OF's and one will need to be dealt at sometime.

With Jenkins making around 8mil on the last year of a 3 year deal I believe, the Brewers also have 3 exciting, young and fairly cheap options that need consistent playing time in Hall, Gwynn and Hart. Just a gut feeling but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see it happen.

Any playoff type teams in need of a left handed power hitting OF?

 

[lions327]

I read this thread hoping to see a rumor about the Tigers looking at some bullpen help.

 

[commisholio]

Giants have starting pitching coming out of their ears. What kind of bat do you guys think they could get for

Matt Morris or Noah Lowry, both of whom are having very nice years so far?

 

[Darth Cheney]

Giants have starting pitching coming out of their ears. What kind of bat do you guys think they could get for Matt Morris or Noah Lowry, both of whom are having very nice years so far?

Jason Giambi?

 

[Limp Ditka]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

 

[RedRaiders]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

outta curiosity what are the tigers paying him?

2.5 mill

Good lord, WHY?

 

[General Malaise]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

outta curiosity what are the tigers paying him?

2.5 mill

Good lord, WHY?

 

[shadyridr]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

DO IT AND DO IT NOW. Dye is a better fielder, better power hitter, and is righthanded which the Yanks desperately need.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Numerous sources say the Phillies are very interested in Colorado closer Brian "Tito/Daisy" Fuentes. I'd think he would cost at least a very nice starting pitching prospect. Also the Tigers are said to be thinking of trading Jose Mesa to oblivion if said oblivion will pick up the rest of his contract.

outta curiosity what are the tigers paying him?

2.5 mill

Good lord, WHY?

Because the Tigers were looking for a guy who could pitch in the 7th and 8th to relieve Zumaya and Rodney of some of their strain. Last year pitching in Colorado Mesa had a +125 ERA, gave up 73 hits in 72 innings, and had more K's than walks. He also is known for his great work ethic and is always in good shape. He wasn't supposed to be superman just get a few outs here and there. Jamie Walker who filled that roll last year in Detroit signed for 4 mill a year in Baltimore. A guy that was to have a similiar roll with the Red Sox Mike Timlin was signed for 2.8 million. Jorge Julio, $3 miilion. It was worth the shot considering all that. Just didn't work out.

 

[Green94]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

 

[Steelnation]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

I would take Dye in a heartbeat

 

[Funkley]

Lord please let the Astros trade Ensberg. I'd be happy getting a sack of potatoes in return.

I heard a rumor about getting Scott Baker so Minn could use both Garza and Slowey.

Interesting. I assume this rumor is from the Houston side? Haven't heard this rumor here but I'm all for it.

 

[Big Papi]

There have been intermittent rumors about the Red Sox trading Coco Crisp to make room for Ellsbury in CF. Also, they may look to move Kyle Snyder at some point as well.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

My car is gassed up, I'll drive Abreu to the airport or Chicago, whichever he prefers, to make this happen.However, look who is playing each other in a 4 game set this week...

I think Dye is a winning player, I'd love for this move to go down!

 

[Funkley]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-dye04.article

A rumor that surfaced less than two weeks ago, which had the Sox exploring a deal that would send Dye to the Yankees for struggling outfielder Bobby Abreu, has started to take on some life, according to one Sox source close to the situation.

Not only because Abreu is a good friend of Guillen's -- which worked out well when right-hander Freddy Garcia came over -- but also because the Sox believe Abreu is a slow starter and his best baseball this season is ahead of him.

The organization also reportedly isn't too thrilled with comments from Dye in which he came off as uncaring about where he plays.

''I've been around long enough to know that it's just a business,'' Dye told the Sun-Times this week.

''You're paid to work for a team for whatever period of time, give 100 percent to that club, and if you get dealt away, give 100 percent to the next club.''

My car is gassed up, I'll drive Abreu to the airport or Chicago, whichever he prefers, to make this happen.However, look who is playing each other in a 4 game set this week...

I think Dye is a winning player, I'd love for this move to go down!

I still don't understand why the White Sox would do this. Great trade for the Yanks if they can pull it off.

 

[Funkley]

There have been intermittent rumors about the Red Sox trading Coco Crisp to make room for Ellsbury in CF. Also, they may look to move Kyle Snyder at some point as well.

Keeper League alert for you keeper leaguer's. And likely enough stolen bases to make him a mixed league pick up in any size league.Great head's up here, thanks. I've been watching his progress all season. SLG % is very low at AAA but otherwise he looks to be a very solid roto guy.