***Official*** Washington Redskins 2013 Thread (3 Viewers)

[Braktastic]

It's a tag Snyder needs to shed but I'd say this is one time he absolutely needs to meddle if Shanahan goes through with this. I don't see a single legitimate "football" reason to make this move. It's seemingly all about Shanahan trying to pull a power play. I think it's a slap in the face to the team's fans to allow him to get away with it.

I think Redskins fans need to ignore all the white-noise and ask yourself one question:

If RGIII plays, do the Redskins have an appreciably better chance to win any of their last three games?

If you answer, yes, then I would I would get worked up about this. If you answer, no, then I wouldn't. Clearly, I'm in the "no" category. Let Shanahan dig his own grave. He looks like he's ready for it.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

It's a tag Snyder needs to shed but I'd say this is one time he absolutely needs to meddle if Shanahan goes through with this. I don't see a single legitimate "football" reason to make this move. It's seemingly all about Shanahan trying to pull a power play. I think it's a slap in the face to the team's fans to allow him to get away with it.

Giving Shanahan enough rope to hang himself is actually pretty smart. If Griffin is benched I think team vets will mutiny and Snyder can say he had no choice and, against all odds, look like the good (and BE) the good guy.

If Snyder could prove it was Shanahan planting false stories he might be able to terminate him with cause too.

 

[packersfan]

Personally, I think Griffin needs all the reps he can get as he rounds himself back to form. I think it's ridiculous to bench him if he's healthy to play - especially if you were willing to start him against a good defense in bad weather just a few days ago. I get the part about letting Shanahan dig his own grave but let's assume Cousins plays well. Now the next head coach you hire (and I think we can all agree Shanahan's done in Washington after the season at the latest) has to spend his first offseason dealing with a potential quarterback controversy. I don't think that happens because the team is a mess and I don't think switching QBs is going to change or solve anything at this point but why even allow that to become a possibility? Plus you could also create a situation where Griffin wonders if Snyder really does have his back.

There's no denying this entire situation is a joke at this point and the situation is a mess. I just don't think doing something even more ridiculous and without legitimate merit helps anything.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

It's a tag Snyder needs to shed but I'd say this is one time he absolutely needs to meddle if Shanahan goes through with this. I don't see a single legitimate "football" reason to make this move. It's seemingly all about Shanahan trying to pull a power play. I think it's a slap in the face to the team's fans to allow him to get away with it.

Trust me, every sports talk radio or and twitter is alive with talking about it. Stuff like, you let him play in the snow on bad grass field, but won't let him play in a dome vs a team that is 27th in NFL for sacks??? It's out of control how Shanny is being dissected. microscope doesn't cover what he's under...and he deserves every bit of it at this point.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

It's a tag Snyder needs to shed but I'd say this is one time he absolutely needs to meddle if Shanahan goes through with this. I don't see a single legitimate "football" reason to make this move. It's seemingly all about Shanahan trying to pull a power play. I think it's a slap in the face to the team's fans to allow him to get away with it.

I think Redskins fans need to ignore all the white-noise and ask yourself one question:

If RGIII plays, do the Redskins have an appreciably better chance to win any of their last three games?

If you answer, yes, then I would I would get worked up about this. If you answer, no, then I wouldn't. Clearly, I'm in the "no" category. Let Shanahan dig his own grave. He looks like he's ready for it.

Nah, it is not even that deep at this time...it's a there is nothing like LIVE reps. No greater teaching tool than that.

 

[MattFancy]

It's a tag Snyder needs to shed but I'd say this is one time he absolutely needs to meddle if Shanahan goes through with this. I don't see a single legitimate "football" reason to make this move. It's seemingly all about Shanahan trying to pull a power play. I think it's a slap in the face to the team's fans to allow him to get away with it.

I think Redskins fans need to ignore all the white-noise and ask yourself one question:

If RGIII plays, do the Redskins have an appreciably better chance to win any of their last three games?

If you answer, yes, then I would I would get worked up about this. If you answer, no, then I wouldn't. Clearly, I'm in the "no" category. Let Shanahan dig his own grave. He looks like he's ready for it.

Nah, it is not even that deep at this time...it's a there is nothing like LIVE reps. No greater teaching tool than that.

It's funny, all the people that wanted him to play in the preseason are now the same ones that are saying he should be benched. So he needs reps, but he doesn't need reps?

 

[dhockster]

One conspiracy theory:

While I don't think Gary Kubiak is a weaselly guy (like Shanahan), I think one of the factors that got him fired on Friday was Gary putting Schaub in the game on Thursday and hinting that he might start Schaub this week in his post game press conference. McNair made it a point to say that Keenum would be starting the rest of the season at the firing press conference. I think Gary had to know that playing Schaub could lead to him getting fired.

Now we see Shanahan pulling a similar move in that he is threatening not starting the preferred QB. Coincidence? Probably, but I find it interesting that these two have a fairly significant prior relationship and seem to be operating in the same way.

 

[Braktastic]

It's funny, all the people that wanted him to play in the preseason are now the same ones that are saying he should be benched. So he needs reps, but he doesn't need reps?

I never had an opinion on what RGIII needed to do in the preseason, but I've seen him play in person at the 49ers/Redskins game, and there is a lot that he could work on mechanically in practice and in the off-season that aren't going to improve by getting more in-game reps behind a swiss-cheese offensive line. All that's going to do is reinforce bad habits. Changes to mechanics requires a conscience effort to do so in a environment conducive to doing doing it. Frankly, I question RGIII's commitment to improving his mechanics in practice, so I'm pretty sure he isn't going to do it as a resul of playing more games.

 

[MattFancy]

It's funny, all the people that wanted him to play in the preseason are now the same ones that are saying he should be benched. So he needs reps, but he doesn't need reps?

I never had an opinion on what RGIII needed to do in the preseason, but I've seen him play in person at the 49ers/Redskins game, and there is a lot that he could work on mechanically in practice and in the off-season that aren't going to improve by getting more in-game reps behind a swiss-cheese offensive line. All that's going to do is reinforce bad habits. Changes to mechanics requires a conscience effort to do so in a environment conducive to doing doing it. Frankly, I question RGIII's commitment to improving his mechanics in practice, so I'm pretty sure he isn't going to do it as a resul of playing more games.

I see your point. But if he's healthy, he should be playing. Game reps are game reps,

 

[fatness]

Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder will not intervene into the team’s quarterback situation this week as Coach Mike Shanahan contemplates sitting down starter Robert Griffin III for the remainder of the season in favor of backup Kirk Cousins, a person familiar with the situation said Tuesday.

“He won’t step in and interfere with that,” the person said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic. “He’s not going to step into a personnel decision that way.”

The person with knowledge of the situation said it appears that Shanahan will coach the team this weekend. If a coaching change was going to be made this week, that person said, it probably would have happened Monday. Others around the league said earlier Tuesday they wondered if a change remained possible later in the day.

Mike Jones

 

[fatness]

Admittedly I have seen very little of Cousins and it was last season but he looked OK from what I can recall. From what I can tell the following teams look to need QB's this coming year:

Oakland

Cleveland

Houston

Tennessee

Jacksonville

Minnesota

Other teams could need QB's:

Jets

Rams

Cardinals

Bears

TB

If Cousins were to show good poise, arm strength and put up OK #'s I could see one of these teams offering more then a 4 for him IMO

**ETA**

I just wouldnt be shocked if they have this in mind combined with not risking any further injury to RG3 when making this decision.

OK, since you're promoting this idea, which team will offer what? Who on the Redskins wants to trade Cousins? And where will the Redskins get a decent backup QB?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Just thinking outloud with this one....

Could playing Cousins actually be a smart move? Not as far as wins and loses go but you can't kid yourself-the team is done this season. You guys dont have a 1st round pick so by playing Cousins you could maybe get a decent pick in return if he performs well as well as making sure RG3 is 100% and isnt risking further injury in a year thats lost.

Seems like a LOT of teams need QB's for next year

Yes. The obvious "something to gain" in benching RGIII, is putting Cousins in the shop window in the hope of landing a pick. And it's not really something you can say publicly. It's desperate, but defensible.

What if Cousins bombs? Then he has no trade value

I doubt he has much now, so you haven't really lost anything. Nobody is going to offer anything good based on preseason anymore. Heck, it's possible they won't do it based on 2 or 3 live games anymore considering the Matt Flynn debacle. But if Cousins is going to be an asset, the only way to do it is to put him in live games.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Admittedly I have seen very little of Cousins and it was last season but he looked OK from what I can recall. From what I can tell the following teams look to need QB's this coming year:

Oakland

Cleveland

Houston

Tennessee

Jacksonville

Minnesota

Other teams could need QB's:

Jets

Rams

Cardinals

Bears

TB

If Cousins were to show good poise, arm strength and put up OK #'s I could see one of these teams offering more then a 4 for him IMO

**ETA**

I just wouldnt be shocked if they have this in mind combined with not risking any further injury to RG3 when making this decision.

OK, since you're promoting this idea, which team will offer what? Who on the Redskins wants to trade Cousins? And where will the Redskins get a decent backup QB?

I think if he shows what I mentioned above I believe a QB needy team would offer at least a 2 for him. I probably could have removed Houston since I believe they'll take Bridgewater. Would a Cleveland 2 suffice?

As far as who wants to trade him I have no idea. I was just speculating that this scanerio could be a factor in why they choose to play Cousins the final 3 weeks.

The Skins would get a decent back-up either in FA or in the 4th round

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

It's funny, all the people that wanted him to play in the preseason are now the same ones that are saying he should be benched. So he needs reps, but he doesn't need reps?

I never had an opinion on what RGIII needed to do in the preseason, but I've seen him play in person at the 49ers/Redskins game, and there is a lot that he could work on mechanically in practice and in the off-season that aren't going to improve by getting more in-game reps behind a swiss-cheese offensive line. All that's going to do is reinforce bad habits. Changes to mechanics requires a conscience effort to do so in a environment conducive to doing doing it. Frankly, I question RGIII's commitment to improving his mechanics in practice, so I'm pretty sure he isn't going to do it as a resul of playing more games.

I see your point. But if he's healthy, he should be playing. Game reps are game reps,

I'm not sure that's always true. QBs used to be developed a lot slower. Live reps are useless if they are reps the QB isn't really prepared to deal with.

I have no burning desire to bench RGIII. I don't think he's primarily to blame for the bad season. And I'm sure the Shanahans will be gone at the end of the season. I still think you could conceivably play Cousins without it having to be perceived as some Machiavellian ploy to get fired or to undermine Robert.

 

[fatness]

I think if he shows what I mentioned above I believe a QB needy team would offer at least a 2 for him. I probably could have removed Houston since I believe they'll take Bridgewater. Would a Cleveland 2 suffice?As far as who wants to trade him I have no idea. I was just speculating that this scanerio could be a factor in why they choose to play Cousins the final 3 weeks.

The Skins would get a decent back-up either in FA or in the 4th round

I thought maybe you had someone specific in mind with a specific offer. Since that's not the case, nobody is going to give a 2nd round pick for Cousins.and I don't see any way someone gives up a 3rd for him.

What backup QB the Redskins can draft this year with a 4th round pick? And why would that player be better for the team than Cousins?

We're talking about a specific player as good as Cousins with 2 seasons under his belt, not a generalized "decent back-up" replacing someone who's never been with the Skins.

 

[fatness]

I still think you could conceivably play Cousins without it having to be perceived as some Machiavellian ploy to get fired or to undermine Robert.

"Gives us the best chance to win" is the reason Shanahan has used all year to justify why he wasn't replacing starters even when the team was spiraling downward. Suddenly he's replacing a starter who's not injured in order to prevent injury, he says.

It's a simple F U to the owner. There's no other reason. They're wrangling over money and parting terms.

 

[cstu]

As a non-Redskins fan it makes sense to me for them to give Cousins a shot:

- RG3 isn't playing well. It's not all his fault but he's not getting the job done. He wouldn't be the first young QB who got benched and went onto a great career, Brees was benched for a 41 year old Flutie and it didn't destroy him.

- Cousins has potential trade value if he plays well. If he doesn't then they all least find out that he's not good now.

 

[packersfan]

I think you could possibly come up with a conceivable reason to bench RG3 that would hold up under scrutiny.

The one Shanahan chose, however, doesn't make the slightest bit of sense and falls apart under the most trivial of examinations. I don't know how anyone can look at this decision (assuming it happens) and view it as being beneficial for the team, RG3, the fans or anyone other than possibly Mike Shanahan himself.

 

[Ted Mullins]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

 

[fatness]

If any reporter can score an interview with Haslett, Burns, or Kyle before they all hit the street it might be a lot of fun to read.

Reporter: "Would you work for your dad again?"

Kyle: "I'm focused on Atlanta."

 

[RGIII HTTR]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

At least we wouldn't have to talk about his father going into the locker room...one positive. Hahahaha....

 

[fatness]

a few suggestions for Shanahan’s next play, if he really wants to force Snyder’s hand.

1) Bench Kirk Cousins to protect him; announce that Rex Grossman is the new starting quarterback.

2) Show up to his next press conference carrying the latest issue of Washington City Paper.

3) Admit that the Redskins fully deserved the salary cap penalty.

4) The first time the Redskins line up for a field-goal attempt in Atlanta, call for the swinging gate play.

5) The second time the Redskins line up for a field-goal attempt in Atlanta, call for the swinging gate play.

6) Happily announce that his neighbor signed up for the season ticket waitlist last month, and has already been offered seats for next season.

7) Bench Rex Grossman to protect him; announce that Pat White is the new starting quarterback.

8) Stop saying Redskins; begin saying Washington Professional Football Team.

9) Fire Jim Haslett. Hire as Washington’s new defensive coordinator his little-known cousin, “Rodney Shanahan.”

10) Begin his next press conference like this: “3-10! Not very good!”

11) Give Valkyrie a bad score on Rotten Tomatoes.

12) Lobby for all fans to receive vouchers for free parking at the Cowboys game.

13) Tell reporters that he’ll be flying to upstate New York after the season, to vacation at Turning Stone Resort & Casino.

14) Bench Pat White to protect him; announce that Colt Brennan is the new starting quarterback.

15) Admit that he never really wanted a practice bubble; move practice sessions back to Lifetime Fitness.

16) Use UPS. Repeatedly.

17) Mention that he always liked Billy more than Sonny.

18) Pepper his quotes with references to Austerlitz, Elba and Waterloo.

19) Describe, in great detail, several of his favorite trees along the Potomac River.

20) Bring several pints of vanilla ice cream to the podium each time he speaks.

21) Cancel all mid-week practices until every player on the active roster can pass a conditioning test.

22) Offer exclusive interviews to 106.7 The Fan, John Feinstein, Dave McKenna and DallasCowboys.com.

23) Bench Colt Brennan to protect him; announce that John Beck is the new starting quarterback.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/12/10/23-ways-mike-shanahan-could-force-dan-snyders-hand/

 

[fatness]

Dan Steinberg ‏@dcsportsbog 9 Dec

Great point by @ENumNums: Huge oversight by Shanahan not mentioning RGIII's cardiovascular conditioning

 

[PinkydaPimp]

has there been a comment from the RG3 camp regarding him starting as of yet? smdh. i really hope he doesnt get benched. that so wont end well.

 

[jbz]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it. You keep fighting and trying to do better. I'm pretty sure RG3 doesn't want to be protected if he's not injured at the moment. He doesn't look injured so he should be playing IMO.

 

[fatness]

oops

 

[dgreen]

I just hope there's someone coaching Griffin right now about how to handle the potential benching. He'll just need to say the right things and then shut up.

 

[dgreen]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it. You keep fighting and trying to do better. I'm pretty sure RG3 doesn't want to be protected if he's not injured at the moment. He doesn't look injured so he should be playing IMO.

It's treating him in a special way, differently from other players on the team. And Mike's against that sort of thing.

 

[packersfan]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it.

Yup. Like I said, there isn't a single thing that makes even the slightest bit of sense from a football perspective.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it.

Yup. Like I said, there isn't a single thing that makes even the slightest bit of sense from a football perspective.

I think this is all Shannahan getting carried away trying to drive home the point of how much him missing this past offseason affected his growth and that of the offense.

 

[fatness]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it. You keep fighting and trying to do better. I'm pretty sure RG3 doesn't want to be protected if he's not injured at the moment. He doesn't look injured so he should be playing IMO.

I would guess every player on the team agrees with you. And that they'll all keep their mouths shut, play, give short interviews til the season is over, and wait for Snyder to can Shanahan. They know he's gone.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

snyder is showing restraint if he doesn't overrule benching RGIII.

the freak show is just getting started.

* WAS fans, laughing WITH you at shanahan (or is appalled the right word).

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I just don't see any scenario where anything Shanahan does at this stage is at all damaging. They're going to blow this team up.

The next coach presumably knows what Griffin does and does not do well. If I'm Mike Zimmmer or whatever, I think I'd appreciate some real Cousins film. Hell, give me some Gaddis film while you're at it.

They're 3-10. If they haven't lost the locker room already, what possible additional harm would losing the locker room do?

 

[Bob Magaw]

a few suggestions for Shanahan’s next play, if he really wants to force Snyder’s hand.

1) Bench Kirk Cousins to protect him; announce that Rex Grossman is the new starting quarterback.

2) Show up to his next press conference carrying the latest issue of Washington City Paper.

3) Admit that the Redskins fully deserved the salary cap penalty.

4) The first time the Redskins line up for a field-goal attempt in Atlanta, call for the swinging gate play.

5) The second time the Redskins line up for a field-goal attempt in Atlanta, call for the swinging gate play.

6) Happily announce that his neighbor signed up for the season ticket waitlist last month, and has already been offered seats for next season.

7) Bench Rex Grossman to protect him; announce that Pat White is the new starting quarterback.

8) Stop saying Redskins; begin saying Washington Professional Football Team.

9) Fire Jim Haslett. Hire as Washington’s new defensive coordinator his little-known cousin, “Rodney Shanahan.”

10) Begin his next press conference like this: “3-10! Not very good!”

11) Give Valkyrie a bad score on Rotten Tomatoes.

12) Lobby for all fans to receive vouchers for free parking at the Cowboys game.

13) Tell reporters that he’ll be flying to upstate New York after the season, to vacation at Turning Stone Resort & Casino.

14) Bench Pat White to protect him; announce that Colt Brennan is the new starting quarterback.

15) Admit that he never really wanted a practice bubble; move practice sessions back to Lifetime Fitness.

16) Use UPS. Repeatedly.

17) Mention that he always liked Billy more than Sonny.

18) Pepper his quotes with references to Austerlitz, Elba and Waterloo.

19) Describe, in great detail, several of his favorite trees along the Potomac River.

20) Bring several pints of vanilla ice cream to the podium each time he speaks.

21) Cancel all mid-week practices until every player on the active roster can pass a conditioning test.

22) Offer exclusive interviews to 106.7 The Fan, John Feinstein, Dave McKenna and DallasCowboys.com.

23) Bench Colt Brennan to protect him; announce that John Beck is the new starting quarterback.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/12/10/23-ways-mike-shanahan-could-force-dan-snyders-hand/

have a game plan alternating nothing but fumblerooskis, statue of liberty and hook and ladder plays.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I am not a fan of Dan Snyder the owner, but he is absolutely playing Shanahan like a fiddle here.

Shanahan clearly wants to be fired, and get paid, while Snyder is letting Shananhan dig his own grave, and is not going to pay him when he does fire Shanahan.

 

[Sinn Fein]

I think benching RG3 to protect him sends a bad message to the team. It says RG3 is worth protecting, the rest of the starters are not. It's also saying the OL and coaches can't do a better job at protecting him in the first place. While this is fairly obvious, you don't just wave the white flag and admit it. You keep fighting and trying to do better. I'm pretty sure RG3 doesn't want to be protected if he's not injured at the moment. He doesn't look injured so he should be playing IMO.

The only reason Shanahan is talking about benching RGIII is so Snyder will step in and "force" him to play RGIII - I assume that will violate some term of Shanahan's contract about control of football decisions, entitling him to get paid. Snyder beautifully called his bluff.

The only thing better than firing Shanahan at this point would be to re-assign him - something like the dude that cleans Jerry Jones glasses.

 

[ffldrew]

Rams front office --->

 

[jbz]

Rams front office --->

Sadly the Rams are truly the only ones winning in any of this.

 

[cstu]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

So? If he doesn't then he's not meant to be your starting QB anyway.

 

[Marvelous]

Just thinking outloud with this one....

Could playing Cousins actually be a smart move? Not as far as wins and loses go but you can't kid yourself-the team is done this season. You guys dont have a 1st round pick so by playing Cousins you could maybe get a decent pick in return if he performs well as well as making sure RG3 is 100% and isnt risking further injury in a year thats lost.

Seems like a LOT of teams need QB's for next year

I think that's a pie-in-the-sky dream, honestly. Cousins has not looked good. With the offensive line collapse this season, especially late this season, he's probably not going to look good. The odds are that his trade value will go down when/if he plays.

Additionally I don't think the Redskins are at all interested in trading him. He was drafted as a second QB. What they'd get for him probably wouldn't exceed what they spent for him -- a 4th round pick --- and then they'll need a backup QB.

With a different head coach and different offensive line and offensive strategy Griffin and Cousins will both look better than they do this year. This year's change in offensive playcalling has been abysmal. Their line can't pass block, and they've been trying to do pocket passing all year. Terrible coaching.

Admittedly I have seen very little of Cousins and it was last season but he looked OK from what I can recall. From what I can tell the following teams look to need QB's this coming year:

Oakland

Cleveland

Houston

Tennessee

Jacksonville

Minnesota

Other teams could need QB's:

Jets

Rams

Cardinals

Bears

TB

If Cousins were to show good poise, arm strength and put up OK #'s I could see one of these teams offering more then a 4 for him IMO

**ETA**

I just wouldnt be shocked if they have this in mind combined with not risking any further injury to RG3 when making this decision.

I think the most anyone would pay for Cousins is a 3rd round pick. He really hasn't done much to show that he is a starting NFL quarterback. He looked good for a game and a few snaps last year. That is it.

 

[fatness]

I am not a fan of Dan Snyder the owner, but he is absolutely playing Shanahan like a fiddle here.

Shanahan clearly wants to be fired, and get paid, while Snyder is letting Shananhan dig his own grave, and is not going to pay him when he does fire Shanahan.

I think you're right. I think at the end of the season Snyder will either work out a deal with Shanahan to leave cheap, or Snyder will fire him for not honoring his contract and will have adequate legal-sounding backup for doing it. It'll take Shanahan years to fight that in court, and he never did get the money Al Davis owed him.

I am concerned about losing the locker room in the sense of the players fragmenting and taking sides. But I don't really think that will happen. The owner and coach are turds, only one of those turds pays them and they know the other is gone. I think they'll just grit out the last 3 weeks, go home, drink heavily, and wait for the next coach. They're all auditioning now anyway and they know it.

 

[fatness]

Rams front office --->

Sadly the Rams are truly the only ones winning in any of this.

They're the big winners, but the Redskins draft choices do move close to the beginning of the other rounds. There's a big difference between 2.02 and 2.25 (just to pick a number). I think the Skins have 7 picks this year (anyone know?)

 

[jbz]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

So? If he doesn't then he's not meant to be your starting QB anyway.

You're joking right? How many starting QBs in the NFL do you know that would take being benched when not injured well? If he took it well I'd be more disappointed.

 

[Bob Magaw]

That would be awesome if Snyder surreptitiously got to Cousins (and any other possible QBs) to undermine Shanahan. Maybe he could buy him a beach house for his trouble. Claim he has a blinding migraine and can't go (plausible deniability for Snyder), forcing RGIII back into the picture. Check back to you, Shanahan.

* or have both RGIII and Cousins wear full body makeup so they can impersonate each other. Than when the game is over, they can tear their disguises off together, snapping them off like basketball warmups.

 

[MattFancy]

Rams front office --->

Sadly the Rams are truly the only ones winning in any of this.

They're the big winners, but the Redskins draft choices do move close to the beginning of the other rounds. There's a big difference between 2.02 and 2.25 (just to pick a number). I think the Skins have 7 picks this year (anyone know?)

Either 6 or 7 I believe.

Does anyone else have a feeling that RG3 is still going to start this week?

 

[dgreen]

Regardless of any reasoning, I think benching RG3 will turn this whole thing into an even bigger circus - he isn't going to take it well. I can see both sides of it.

So? If he doesn't then he's not meant to be your starting QB anyway.

You're joking right? How many starting QBs in the NFL do you know that would take being benched when not injured well? If he took it well I'd be more disappointed.

Well, there's "not taking it well" and then there's "NOT TAKING IT WELL." I think it's important how he reacts here. I'd hate to see him take this to the media and badmouth the coaching staff in press conferences and interviews. If he does that, I'd somewhat be on cstu's side here. Internally, he should get angry, cuss out Mike, and maybe throw some stuff in the locker room.

 

[dgreen]

I just don't see any scenario where anything Shanahan does at this stage is at all damaging.

I agree. In the long run, these last three games - on the field - make no difference at all. As I said, I hope someone is in Robert's ear coaching him how to handle this potential move. That's possibly the most damaging aspect, if he somehow loses some teammates because of how he reacts. But, really, that can all be repaired, too.

Still, Shanahan is proposing to do something that, to my knowledge, just doesn't happen in the NFL. On its own, that doesn't make it a bad move, but it sure seems a bit fishy.

 

[RGIII HTTR]

has there been a comment from the RG3 camp regarding him starting as of yet? smdh. i really hope he doesnt get benched. that so wont end well.

Shanny and RG3 have their regular scheduled press conferences today. From all reports as of Tuesday, RG3 had not been told that he was not starting to that point.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it or not, but Shanny could have lost his locker room with the "possibly benching RG3." Not that everyone is in RG3's corner, but basically he just threw the entire OL under the bus and many others. Basically, you are not worth risking a franchise player over. Add that he was going to quit on them and the mix message he is telling the team. Shanny always said, best player will play and he told the team for the final 3 games he was going to give 100%. Benching RG3 would make both of those statements false.

Now there are reports that the real rift is Shanny Jr with owner/RG3 and that it has put Shanny in odd spot, which is forcing him out. If this is the case that Shanny Jr is at the heart of the issue, he has hampered his coaching career significantly as everyone and their mother is watching the situation in Washington. Shame on Shanny for not putting his son in his place, but Shanny hasn't held anyone (other than players) accountable since he got here.

Kudos for Danny taking high road and making Shanny sleep in the bed he made. Hang yourself and I'm not giving you an easy out.

 

[fatness]

* or have both RGIII and Cousins wear full body makeup so they can impersonate each other. Than when the game is over, they can tear their disguises off together, snapping them off like basketball warmups.

I would pay to see this.

 

[fatness]

As I said, I hope someone is in Robert's ear coaching him how to handle this potential move.

I'd say that has already been done, by more than one person. The team supports him, the veteran players support him, the front office supports him, his family supports him. I'd say numerous people have already done this and that he'll conduct himself well. Frankly I'm not worried about how he'll react if benched. He'll come off far more professional than his head coach, as will most of the players.