***** Official Westworld Thread ***** (1 Viewer)

[ConnSKINS26]

Dolores could barely get up when she met him and looked like she was going to die after getting shot a few times.

She had already been injected with like a quintuple-lethal dose of drugs by the original irish bodyguard guy, to make her death look like an accident. It happened immediately before she was shot and then the drugs started kicking in.

That all was done really poorly because they thought Dolores new fangled head with front ball insertion was cool and her head on a frame look was sexy. That definitely bothered me because there were no rules at all.

That was Dolores' original frame/body from when Arnold first created her, they've shown it tons of times. It's sturdier and more durable, they kept making the hosts more human-like in body over the years for a more "real" experience but they used to all have the "front ball insertion". Like Ford's secret family robots that were old tech, same thing. This again was shown and talked about a dozen times at least. She planned ahead and had it shipped there for the final stages of her plan so that when she died, she'd not only go down swinging in the best combat body but would also die in her original body, the one she was "born" in. Bernard had just made a comment that she was built to see things with a poetic bent, in the same episode.

I get that plot-wise this can be a confusing show. But this stuff is not what makes it confusing at all, you just have to pay attention. 

 

[ConnSKINS26]

thought it was convoluted, Arnold/Bernard didn't play much of a role and what's the point of him going back to see his "old wife"? 

Bernard may be a self-aware Host now but his entire personality is still built around the pain of Arnold's son's death, that's how the Hosts work. Just like with Maeve, it doesn't matter that Bernard knows it's not really his son, it's the entire foundation for his personality and "awakening". This was Dolores leading him somewhere where he could get some closure, showing him that she remembers that that human feeling of pain and loss is so central to who he is, and who all Hosts are. A reminder that they have, through multiple iterations, known each other intimately. To get him to reevaluate his kneejerk reaction against her goals and get onboard with her actual, now revealed plan once he had the realization that she had entrusted him with the key to The Sublime (the Host heaven where Maeve's daughter and the rest reside) all along. We will see more of why that's important next season, obviously, as he seems to spend years of real world time in there doing who knows what.

Couldn't tell if Delores plan was to have humans go extinct and be replaced by bots or to create enough chaos to allow the planting of bots in the human population.

I don't think it's either of those really obvious/diabolical type plans. It was more setting into motion a plan that would sustain itself and lead to long-term change, with short-term destruction a necessary side effect.

Her plan imo was to get a human capable of leading other humans to see that the whole system needed to come down. She needed someone capable enough in violence to help pull it off, who had been wronged by the same system, but who she witnessed showing the goodness that used to give her hope in humans, like when she first met William. Simultaneously she wanted to get Maeve on her side to help him, as Maeve is the one who really has the power to lead and influence Hosts. Essentially she spent all season (in the convoluted West World way) putting a worthy leader of each potential faction through the wringer and getting them where they needed to be in the end, physically and mentally, to partner up and begin the real revolution.

Yeah it's complicated but that's why she read those files about influential Humans last season to craft this complex, deceptive, and honestly Ford-like plan and bring it to fruition.

The thing with Charlotte having her own plans also bothered me. 

I thought it was awesome. The copies all started out as the same version of Dolores but can experience things and change just as much as we can. Nature vs. Nurture and all that. DoloresPrime made the mistake of giving this version of herself a family to care about and grow close to, a "weakness" that she always had in her even after her more recent awakening was able to rear it's head again and losing them was enough to send her completely off the rails. She even told DoloresPrime she could feel herself changing and drifting from who she had been.

 

[Capella]

Will never watch this show again, it’s bad and everybody involved with making it should feel bad. 

 

[stbugs]

She had already been injected with like a quintuple-lethal dose of drugs by the original irish bodyguard guy, to make her death look like an accident. It happened immediately before she was shot and then the drugs started kicking in.

That was Dolores' original frame/body from when Arnold first created her, they've shown it tons of times. It's sturdier and more durable, they kept making the hosts more human-like in body over the years for a more "real" experience but they used to all have the "front ball insertion". Like Ford's secret family robots that were old tech, same thing. This again was shown and talked about a dozen times at least. She planned ahead and had it shipped there for the final stages of her plan so that when she died, she'd not only go down swinging in the best combat body but would also die in her original body, the one she was "born" in. Bernard had just made a comment that she was built to see things with a poetic bent, in the same episode.

I get that plot-wise this can be a confusing show. But this stuff is not what makes it confusing at all, you just have to pay attention. 

Lol. OK, if you really want to act like a know it all, please go back and watch that scene. Your bolded statement is 100% incorrect. She was not affected by the drugs at all. At all. Did you not realize that that was all a setup so she could “obtain” her boyfriend’s boss and try and take over Incite? Those drugs didn’t start working later, they never affected her at all. She already had a host ready to take over when she killed him. When she was shot several minutes later, she was visibly limping. Unlike her setting Martín up, she didn’t realize Caleb would be in the tunnel so she wasn’t faking the injuries. She didn’t know who Serac was at that point. One would assume that taking over Martín got her that info and more details on Caleb since he saved her.

Same thing with Charlotte. A gunshot and she’s limping but she has no problem being in a car guy explodes and walking away.

Caleb later saw Dolores get shot multiple times and literally just zip up her jacket. Sorry, but that’s a bit all over the place and her skeleton body (way after the zip) was done for effect for cool shots. We don’t even know if that tech was even still around or easily shipped to a warehouse. I’d love to see a link to what you said was shown with the pearl inserted from the front. I don’t recall that at all and it’s a ridiculously bad design so that the face is multiple pieces that somehow fuse together. That’s a lot different than pulling on skin. According to the show folks the hosts have become far more biological than metal over 30 years.

I get that plot-wise this is a confusing show, but you may want to not throw out facts to try and belittle others when you are incorrect. I was just whining because this season wasn’t as good but if you want to actually try and act smarter then I’ll respond. Amazing that you are so into this show and yet as with the bolder, you were so incorrect.

 

[prosopis]

Just hope you guys watched past the credits.  Awesome finale.

Also T&Ps to Beast Mode.  Let's hope he makes a quick recovery.  

Why do they do that? I did see it but I don't understand why they do this after the credits? I was lucky I saw it, I usually don't let it roll through credits. That was a long asss scene that many probably missed. I am not sure why and I even feel silly about it but I was genuinely  angry that they put a scene like that after the credits. Maybe the stress I am dealing with caused that but I had to really stop and talk myself down. I mean wtf cares, why would that bother me so.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

@stbugs you really need a citation for the old, front-face opening Host bodies that have more typical robot bodies (rather than biological)? It has been shown a million times with the original batch of hosts from when Arnold was alive. Ford's family is constructed the same way because Arnold built them. We see less of the old tech in Season 2, but there is a scene where William shoots the boy (Ford) in the face (or destroys it in some manner) and you can see it's the same as the original Dolores tech, where the face looks more like a typical robot inside and opens from the front instead of the back of the head. We see that flashback of Dolores sitting up with no skin, just the skeletal robot body and being "born" into the world with Arnold present many times in season 1. 

We just disagree on the drugs thing, I figured because she's a high tech (but still biological) murderbot it just took longer to effect her but still eventually did. I could be wrong but I didn't see it as a plot hole that she was injured enough to need Caleb in that scene but able to withstand much more damage in other scenes. I thought it was the drugs slowing her down.

That actually brings up an interesting point though, we found out at the end that she knew exactly who Caleb was all along and went out of her way to recruit him. She picked him specifically because she saw him be compassionate towards Hosts in the past when they were rented out to the military. And she had made a comment in an earlier episode that if he was going to start questioning her motives, she could easily question whether he'd have been as eager to help her in that tunnel, in a life-threatening situation, if she'd been less attractive to him. So maybe that was all an act to get his protective instincts firing and draw him into her plot with the "damsel in distress" ploy. Maybe she somehow knew he'd respond to that job on the app and that's actually where it all started. A bit of a coincidence otherwise, that it happened to be him finding her in the tunnel, since we now know she picked him from the jump.

I wasn't trying to be a #### with the "pay attention" line, this sort of thing used to happen in season 1 in this thread all the time where people would miss things that were spelled out and weren't actually part of the complicated plot. I just couldn't believe you didn't remember the old robot bodies from flashbacks all through the show. I should have been cooler in my response.

 

[the moops]

Yeah, William's character seemed really pointless this season

Along with Bernard and Maeve.

I agree on William. And maybe Bernard. But Maeve though? She just ####### blew up the world

 

[nysfl2]

Lol. OK, if you really want to act like a know it all, please go back and watch that scene. Your bolded statement is 100% incorrect. She was not affected by the drugs at all. At all. Did you not realize that that was all a setup so she could “obtain” her boyfriend’s boss and try and take over Incite? Those drugs didn’t start working later, they never affected her at all. She already had a host ready to take over when she killed him. When she was shot several minutes later, she was visibly limping. Unlike her setting Martín up, she didn’t realize Caleb would be in the tunnel so she wasn’t faking the injuries. She didn’t know who Serac was at that point. One would assume that taking over Martín got her that info and more details on Caleb since he saved her.

Same thing with Charlotte. A gunshot and she’s limping but she has no problem being in a car guy explodes and walking away.

Caleb later saw Dolores get shot multiple times and literally just zip up her jacket. Sorry, but that’s a bit all over the place and her skeleton body (way after the zip) was done for effect for cool shots. We don’t even know if that tech was even still around or easily shipped to a warehouse. I’d love to see a link to what you said was shown with the pearl inserted from the front. I don’t recall that at all and it’s a ridiculously bad design so that the face is multiple pieces that somehow fuse together. That’s a lot different than pulling on skin. According to the show folks the hosts have become far more biological than metal over 30 years.

I get that plot-wise this is a confusing show, but you may want to not throw out facts to try and belittle others when you are incorrect. I was just whining because this season wasn’t as good but if you want to actually try and act smarter then I’ll respond. Amazing that you are so into this show and yet as with the bolder, you were so incorrect.

I don't think that Caleb 'just happened to be there' or that Delores was as injured as she was acting. She planned it out to meet him there, and get him on her side by letting him 'save' her.

 

[stbugs]

@stbugs you really need a citation for the old, front-face opening Host bodies that have more typical robot bodies (rather than biological)? It has been shown a million times with the original batch of hosts from when Arnold was alive. Ford's family is constructed the same way because Arnold built them. We see less of the old tech in Season 2, but there is a scene where William shoots the boy (Ford) in the face (or destroys it in some manner) and you can see it's the same as the original Dolores tech, where the face looks more like a typical robot inside and opens from the front instead of the back of the head. We see that flashback of Dolores sitting up with no skin, just the skeletal robot body and being "born" into the world with Arnold present many times in season 1. 

We just disagree on the drugs thing, I figured because she's a high tech (but still biological) murderbot it just took longer to effect her but still eventually did. I could be wrong but I didn't see it as a plot hole that she was injured enough to need Caleb in that scene but able to withstand much more damage in other scenes. I thought it was the drugs slowing her down.

That actually brings up an interesting point though, we found out at the end that she knew exactly who Caleb was all along and went out of her way to recruit him. She picked him specifically because she saw him be compassionate towards Hosts in the past when they were rented out to the military. And she had made a comment in an earlier episode that if he was going to start questioning her motives, she could easily question whether he'd have been as eager to help her in that tunnel, in a life-threatening situation, if she'd been less attractive to him. So maybe that was all an act to get his protective instincts firing and draw him into her plot with the "damsel in distress" ploy. Maybe she somehow knew he'd respond to that job on the app and that's actually where it all started. A bit of a coincidence otherwise, that it happened to be him finding her in the tunnel, since we now know she picked him from the jump.

I wasn't trying to be a #### with the "pay attention" line, this sort of thing used to happen in season 1 in this thread all the time where people would miss things that were spelled out and weren't actually part of the complicated plot. I just couldn't believe you didn't remember the old robot bodies from flashbacks all through the show. I should have been cooler in my response.

Don’t worry about it, most of us are just venting. On the drugs, you are definitely wrong though, she wanted to replace Martin and played possum. If you rewatch you’ll see, she has 0 affect even chasing him. It’s not until she gets shot multiple times that she starts to limp and then goes into the tunnel.

Also, while she recruits Caleb, I don’t think she knows anything about him at that point. She asked Martin who was in charge of the AI when she replaced him. No way she doesn’t know Serac but knows Caleb. I think she learned about Caleb after she replaces Martin and has access to the AI. Also, Caleb ran back to the tunnel, no way to predict that at that point so her injuries were real, just like Charlotte limping away from Delos to get blown up. Charlotte was clearly a biological host so surviving the car explosion like that again seems to be on the opposite side of gunshots hurting them slag zipping up a vest after taking multiple rounds to the chest. At that point they weren’t skeletons.

I just thought they jumped around too much in terms of invincibility and getting hurt when we knew they were all close to human biologically.

I may (probably not) go back and watch the house scene. I completely forgot about any front facing pearl stuff. I remembered the metal skeleton.

 

[stbugs]

I don't think that Caleb 'just happened to be there' or that Delores was as injured as she was acting. She planned it out to meet him there, and get him on her side by letting him 'save' her.

How did she know him? In that same exact scene she asks Martin who is in charge of the AI. He tells her about Serac. She knew nothing about Serac and had no access to the AI at that point. I understand that she chose him but that’s a continuity issue as she could not have been aware of Caleb at that point. I am not disagreeing with you that the show folks meant for it to be a setup but how could she setup Martin and Caleb at the same time when she had no access to the AI yet. Remember she thought that her boyfriend could get her access so again she didn’t know about Serac and how he “made” Caleb at that point. At that point there was no way she knew about Caleb without already knowing about Serac and Solomon/his brother.

 

[Socrates11]

How long do you figure Benard was sitting there offline? That was a ton of dust that accumulated on him. Least 10 yrs?

 

[stbugs]

How long do you figure Benard was sitting there offline? That was a ton of dust that accumulated on him. Least 10 yrs?

At least. One would assume that the hotel wasn’t functioning anymore. I can’t imagine he’d collect that much dust with the regular air conditioning going and the door closed without it being a long long time and again no one coming to the hotel for years. Not sure if it was abandoned when they started there.

 

[Slapdash]

I agree on William. And maybe Bernard. But Maeve though? She just ####### blew up the world

After spending half the season trying to prevent Dolores from doing it for no real reason.  

 

[Slapdash]

How did she know him?

Caleb was training in the park with other military people and told his unit not to have sex with the female hosts after their "mission".  This was shown at the end when Dolores was hooked into the AI.

 

[the moops]

After spending half the season trying to prevent Dolores from doing it for no real reason.  

She wanted to be with her daughter. She certainly had a a real reason

 

[Slapdash]

She wanted to be with her daughter. She certainly had a a real reason

3 seasons of this.  It's boring and I don't care anymore.  It's just a plot device for Serac and others to manipulate her into cool fights.

 

[prosopis]

3 seasons of this.  It's boring and I don't care anymore.  It's just a plot device for Serac and others to manipulate her into cool fights.

On top of this they are robots so who cares? I feel no connection to these robots. It's akin to wondering if my fridge will miss the toaster if I put them in different rooms.

 

[nysfl2]

On top of this they are robots so who cares? I feel no connection to these robots. It's akin to wondering if my fridge will miss the toaster if I put them in different rooms.

 

[stbugs]

Caleb was training in the park with other military people and told his unit not to have sex with the female hosts after their "mission".  This was shown at the end when Dolores was hooked into the AI.

Nice catch, you are correct they did add that training exercise. That said, that was before he got brainwashed by Serac, correct? She would have just thought he was a good person. I still don’t think it closes the loop that she chose him knowing he was in Serac’s rehabilitation. He wasn’t in that when he was in the military, it was after that when he was turned into a clean up guy for the AI. I would buy that Caleb meeting Dolores triggered her to remember him and put him into her plan once she got AI access via Martin. I just don’t buy that she planned out the Caleb meeting (he almost didn’t turn around) like she clearly planned the Martin meeting. She didn’t know about what happened to Caleb after the military exercise.

 

[Slapdash]

Nice catch, you are correct they did add that training exercise. That said, that was before he got brainwashed by Serac, correct? She would have just thought he was a good person. I still don’t think it closes the loop that she chose him knowing he was in Serac’s rehabilitation. He wasn’t in that when he was in the military, it was after that when he was turned into a clean up guy for the AI. I would buy that Caleb meeting Dolores triggered her to remember him and put him into her plan once she got AI access via Martin. I just don’t buy that she planned out the Caleb meeting (he almost didn’t turn around) like she clearly planned the Martin meeting. She didn’t know about what happened to Caleb after the military exercise.

Yeah, it was the whole theme of how he was still free to make the right choice (which then Maeve did in real time).

 

[Slapdash]

On top of this they are robots so who cares? I feel no connection to these robots. It's akin to wondering if my fridge will miss the toaster if I put them in different rooms.

Found the William alias.

 

[Slapdash]

Thoughts on Marshawn Lynch/Kid Cudi characters?  I got a good laugh on Marshawn beasting the barricades.

 

[the moops]

Thoughts on Marshawn Lynch/Kid Cudi characters?  I got a good laugh on Marshawn beasting the barricades.

Thought they were both great. Much better than typical celebrity appearances

 

[prosopis]

Thoughts on Marshawn Lynch/Kid Cudi characters?  I got a good laugh on Marshawn beasting the barricades.

I missed that

 

[Major]

Thoughts on Marshawn Lynch/Kid Cudi characters?  I got a good laugh on Marshawn beasting the barricades.

Pretty sure at least half of this thread have no idea who you're referring to 

 

[Capella]

Pretty sure at least half of this thread have no idea who you're referring to 

Ohhhhhh I’ll go with the over on the one half part 

 

[the moops]

Pretty sure at least half of this thread have no idea who you're referring to 

Ohhhhhh I’ll go with the over on the one half part 

Over 200 mlilion views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzU9Qqdqww

But yes, I think the way over is a good bet

 

[prosopis]

Over 200 mlilion views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzU9Qqdqww

But yes, I think the way over is a good bet

Now I am even more confused.

 

[the moops]

Now I am even more confused.

Kid Cudi. Do you know who he is?

If so...we are guessing you are in a small minority of posters in here who do.

That's all

 

[tommyboy]

Pretty sure at least half of this thread have no idea who you're referring to 

never heard of her

 

[prosopis]

Kid Cudi. Do you know who he is?

If so...we are guessing you are in a small minority of posters in here who do.

That's all

I dont know who that is. I am guessing he was the kid singing in the video. He was in WW with M Lynch?

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I dont know who that is. I am guessing he was the kid singing in the video. He was in WW with M Lynch?

He played Caleb's buddy that turned on him, that he had been brain-washed to believe died in the military. He's pretty famous, as that video shows. I thought he did a pretty good job with the flashback material they gave him, wouldn't have guessed he wasn't an actor if I didn't know who he was already.

Anyways, Lynch I thought did well too with his limited lines. He really looked the part of a cyberpunk future mercenary and they let him show some casual athleticism a couple times to sell it. 

 

[Major]

He played Caleb's buddy that turned on him, that he had been brain-washed to believe died in the military. He's pretty famous, as that video shows. I thought he did a pretty good job with the flashback material they gave him, wouldn't have guessed he wasn't an actor if I didn't know who he was already.

Anyways, Lynch I thought did well too with his limited lines. He really looked the part of a cyberpunk future mercenary and they let him show some casual athleticism a couple times to sell it. 

Kudi was in another HBO show called How to Make It America a while back.  Sort of a Entourage knockoff but he had a major role there.  Decent acting chops.  

 

[ILUVBEER99]

Can they somehow do a flashback to season 1 type show for next season.  Season 2 and 3 have been such a letdown after Season 1, which was one of best shows ever.

 

[need2know]

Are they doing more seasons?  Seems like a good time to stop 

 

[rcam]

I thought it was awesome. The copies all started out as the same version of Dolores but can experience things and change just as much as we can. Nature vs. Nurture and all that. DoloresPrime made the mistake of giving this version of herself a family to care about and grow close to, a "weakness" that she always had in her even after her more recent awakening was able to rear it's head again and losing them was enough to send her completely off the rails. She even told DoloresPrime she could feel herself changing and drifting from who she had been.

I think this is pretty lame TBH. How many lives/tragedies did Dolores/Charlotte suffer through? Her dad being killed, her being killed/raped, Teddy being killed etc. etc. etc. all of this multiple times. She has/had lived many, many lifetimes with more tragedy and anguish than any human. She remembers all of it. But she somehow, based off like (it seems) very limited contact, develops some serious issues to turn against -- herself? I just don't see it.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I think this is pretty lame TBH. How many lives/tragedies did Dolores/Charlotte suffer through? Her dad being killed, her being killed/raped, Teddy being killed etc. etc. etc. all of this multiple times. She has/had lived many, many lifetimes with more tragedy and anguish than any human. She remembers all of it. But she somehow, based off like (it seems) very limited contact, develops some serious issues to turn against -- herself? I just don't see it.

And each of those events had their own effect on her, cumulatively, it's just that all the copies of her had all gone through those same experiences before they were split. Anything they've experienced since would only effect each individual copy, so I don't see why they wouldn't eventually diverge from the "original". The difference is that most of the copies were given more basic tasks that more easily allowed them to stay like Dolores Prime. The Charlotte copy had to live as someone else and make connections with people, carry on relationships with them, giving her the chance to fall into the same habits that OG Dolores had in the past of becoming attached to others despite herself. 

It's no coincidence obviously that they made the most interesting copy be played by the most famous/capable actor, and that that's the copy that lives on in the show. They meant for that copy to end up different.

I think part of the problem is they aren't clear how much time passes in this season and I think it's a decent amount of time, taken all together. Not a super long time, but long enough to form bonds in her new life especially with the kid. 

(General point of order about the copies though, the copy that looks like Lawrence, who wasn't introduced until the last episode or two who gave Bernard the briefcase, is still alive. I bet that one puts itself back into a DoloresClassic body and that's how they keep Evan Rachel Wood on board. Because the actress is still on the show despite the death of the OG Dolores). 

 

[Osaurus]

I’m through 3 episodes of season 3. It gets better, right?

 

[need2know]

Can't believe they are going to make another season of this

 

[Slapdash]

I’m through 3 episodes of season 3. It gets better, right?

 

[Major]

I’m through 3 episodes of season 3. It gets better, right?

Pretty mixed bag here.  Some hated it, others enjoyed it.  Even though I was often confused, I enjoyed the new setting and season overall.  

 

[Capella]

Can't believe they are going to make another season of this

Hopefully wiser minds prevail and they realize they tied up the story for Dolores and William, and most importantly, that the show ####ing sucks.  

 

[Slapdash]

Hopefully wiser minds prevail and they realize they tied up the story for Dolores and William, and most importantly, that the show ####ing sucks.  

HBO does have some recent history in strong final seasons of series it produces...

 

[stbugs]

Hopefully wiser minds prevail and they realize they tied up the story for Dolores and William, and most importantly, that the show ####ing sucks.  

It just went off the rails after season 1. The last two seasons were surprises for surprise sakes and The Walking Dead like plot holes to get to a cool scene. Sucks, because the first season was amazing and you cared about the characters and you sort of felt something. When Bernard was forced to kill his lady. Anthony Hopkins was just awesome and Dolores with her dad and Teddy and William. Just nothing like that after season 1. Season 3 was basically an action movie.

 

[jamny]

Safe to say I won't be giving S3 a shot. I didn't have a good feeling about it just from the trailer. Oh well.

Can anyone sum up S3 in a short paragraph?

 

[stbugs]

Safe to say I won't be giving S3 a shot. I didn't have a good feeling about it just from the trailer. Oh well.

Can anyone sum up S3 in a short paragraph?

It was a 2 hour action movie stretched into a season. Sort of like Ocean’s 12 with a smaller cast (much smaller if you count...I won’t ruin it for you in case) and robots. The best part is that it’s actually the same bad guy in both movies.

Makes you wonder if Ocean’s 12 was the inspiration.

 

[jamny]

It was a 2 hour action movie stretched into a season. Sort of like Ocean’s 12 with a smaller cast (much smaller if you count...I won’t ruin it for you in case) and robots. The best part is that it’s actually the same bad guy in both movies.

Makes you wonder if Ocean’s 12 was the inspiration.

Just looking for a short recap, I have no intention on watching it but would like to know where it went. I'll search online for something.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Something random that popped in my head the other day: There's a scene in season 2 when Charlotte is questioning Bernard in one of those glass rooms, and he says something to her which is inaudible to us.  She then calls in Strand and some other guys and tells Bernard to tell them what he just told her.  And he repeats (?) that the valley beyond is in sector 16 or whatever.  What was the point of that scene?  I remember trying to read his lips, theorizing about what he might've said the first time, or what she might've whispered in his ear, etc.  Was there ever any payoff to that?

I think that's the most frustrating thing about the show, is that it just adds "mystery" for no apparent purpose and then just never comes back to it.  This season someone noticed that William and Caleb's ID numbers in the system were identical (or nearly identical, close enough that it obviously wasn't merely a coincidence).  This spun off a bunch of intriguing theories about the relationship between William and Caleb.  Get to the finale and it turns out... no explanation?  Did I miss the meaning of that, or were we supposed to believe it was just a coincidence?  That seems like it's not just sloppy, but actively punishing people who are paying close attention.  The #### is the point of that?  

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just finished season 3. I liked it. I've liked all three seasons.

I see the negative criticisms are pretty similar to the ones leveled at Lost - many "mysteries" go unsolved. There, people really wanted to know what the Island itself was.

But just like Lost, I didn't care about that so much. To me, science fiction is just the context to explore human nature from different angles. Free will is one of the oldest themes and Westworld provides an interesting  world to explore it.

It did feel a bit rushed and the gunfights and hand to hand combat isn't great but...big deal.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Just looking for a short recap, I have no intention on watching it but would like to know where it went. I'll search online for something.

Delores is loose in the real world and finds humanity is controlled nearly as much as hosts are. This is due to  the invention of Rehoboam - a computer created to "sift" humanity; the goal being to remove the outliers which are people that cause destructive chaos that makes the real world so brutal.

Will Delores, and her new human accomplice Caleb follow through on her plan to burn humanity to the ground? Or is there a different truth that will be found - about everyone and everything?